Here is Himuro's FF13 thread

[Eel O'Brian]

knock yourself out, man

i don't give a shit about final fantasy

[Crushed]

ff13 looks wilde homo

[TVC15]

It will probably be even worse than FF12. 

[cool breeze]

All out of phoenix down to save Sony.

[fistfulofmetal]

lol rpgs.

[BlueTsunami]

It will probably be even worse than FF12. 

I don't know, it won't have a Gambit system... so it has that much going for it!

[Eel O'Brian]

did i mention i don't give a shit about ff13

hold on, lemme edit

[y2kev]

Dean Takahashi asked why they decided to end the exclusive with Sony.
1:55
Says Hashimoto: "We considered the hardware situation. Because of that, we considered the spread of the hardware, so that's why we decided that."
1:56
Question: How will the Xbox 360 and the PS3 versions be different?

1:57
Says Kitase: We planned on having the contents the same, but obviously the Blu-ray and the DVD will be different.
1:57
Asks Christian Nutt: We heard that people were pulled off different teams to work on this.
1:59
Kitase: "As for development, we are using Crystal Tools for development. We are using it for the PC base. We are making the game at a faster pace. We should be able to show new footage in the future."
2:00
Some question about something about the future of the series.

2:00
They only want to talk about FFXIII, so they don't know.
2:01
I ask: How many discs will it ship on?
2:01
Kitase says: "That's still undecided."
2:01
I ask: "About how many?"

2:02
He laughs and won't answer.

2:02
first they will finish ffxiii in japan. and then they will start localization for english.
2:03
at that point, they will start the xbox 360 development.
2:03
so says hashimoto.
2:04
he also adds that ff13 might not be released in the us and europe at the same time because of the language.
2:04
languages, rather.

wat

[Powerslave]

lol final fantasy

[BlueTsunami]

SE are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. MGS4 with all its dialogue can have a simultaneous WW release and yet SE STILL need to localize their games near the JP release date.

[fistfulofmetal]

2:02
first they will finish ffxiii in japan. and then they will start localization for english.
2:03
at that point, they will start the xbox 360 development.


wat

....wait.

They're going to finish the game, release it in Japan, then start making it for the 360?

[Eel O'Brian]

i make him a thread and he won't come into it

[Himu]

Thanks, Eel!

FF13 ON 360 BITCHES

http://kotaku.com/5025033/liveblogging-square-enix-press-conference

[Himu]

WHERE IS THE NEW TRAILER.

Kevin, HOLD ME!

[Jabberwocky]

I was pretty blown away when I heard this. The is probably the first time a new mainline Final Fantasy has released simultaneously multiplatform.

X360 remains next gen RPG overlord  

YEAR OF PS3

[cool breeze]

Who needs FF13 when there is a SO4 trailer WITH gameplay! : http://gamersyde.com/news_6778_en.html

[Himu]

SO

FINAL FANTASY

[BlueTsunami]

Holy shit

Xbox360= Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Final Fantasy XIII

RPGStation confirmed

[cool breeze]

SO

FINAL FANTASY

Does the gameplay footage offend you?

Yes, that is an actual game being played.  Not the same video for 2 years now.

[Himu]

LALALALALALALA

can't read what yer sayinnnnn lalalala

[y2kev]

SHOW ME THE TRAILER 

[fistfulofmetal]

so what do you suspect the 360 version's release year is? Late 2009? Early 2010?

[Jabberwocky]

Holy shit

Xbox360= Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Final Fantasy XIII

RPGStation confirmed

Tales of Vesperia too!

[drohne]

so they're not starting 360 development until they've finished the japanese ps3 version...and sony can't even get it localized first. that's some failure

[Bocsius]

FFXIII can release whenever on 360. I'm patient.

I don't even have a 360 yet, and I only just beat FFXII last night.

[Himu]

SHOW ME THE TRAILER 

THIS

[demi]

Holy shit

Xbox360= Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Final Fantasy XIII

RPGStation confirmed

Tales of Vesperia too!

Last Remnant
Fable 2
Fallout 3
Sacred 2

[cool breeze]

From the looks of the SE conference interview, the game is actually coming out later in the states because of the 360 version.

PS3 Japanese version gets finished.  Work on localizing the PS3 game begins.  Work on the 360 game begins.  Then America and Euro versions of both games get released.  I would think localizing a game is easier than building it on other hardware.

[Jabberwocky]

Holy shit

Xbox360= Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Final Fantasy XIII

RPGStation confirmed

Tales of Vesperia too!

Last Remnant
Fable 2
Fallout 3
Sacred 2

Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Cry On

  360

[Jabberwocky]

I wonder if Lightning is still the most breath-takingly beautifully rendered girl in 4D? 

[Third]

Playstation.

Now on Xbox 360.

[Himu]

2:35
   question: will ff13 have mmo elements? ff12 had mmo elements.

kitase: each time we made a game, we try to make it unique. so it won't be like the last game.

[Himu]

[youtube=425,350]3WZiOS5DMMc[/youtube]

so awesome

[Jabberwocky]

NOMNOMNOMCHAN on the 360. SO AWESOME! 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

so they're not starting 360 development until they've finished the japanese ps3 version...and sony can't even get it localized first. that's some failure

http://ds.ign.com/articles/867/867278p1.html

"Yoichi Wada told a Japanese newspaper that the company aims to make simultaneous releases the norm."

[y2kev]

IGN's Q&A is so poorly translated that I can't make heads or tails of it

[drohne]

1:18 - Hey Kitase, what American games are you influenced by? Mass Effect?

1:19 - No, says Kitase. I'm not.

bioware fuck owned

[Vizzys]

1:18 - Hey Kitase, what American games are you influenced by? Mass Effect?

1:19 - No, says Kitase. I'm not.

bioware fuck owned

ice cold

[y2kev]

1:18 - Hey Kitase, what American games are you influenced by? Mass Effect?

1:19 - No, says Kitase. I'm not.

bioware fuck owned

eb is bizarroland about games (likes asscrud all of a sudden), but generally speaking at least kitase (and team) designs 20-25 hours of game per game he works on. bioware generally cuts off around 5.

i suppose if ff13 is 5 hours of content stretched to 40 hours we can say that mass effect has indeed influenced kitase

[y2kev]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36222.html

HOLY SHIT FUQ HAMAUZU

[Jabberwocky]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36222.html

HOLY SHIT FUQ HAMAUZU

The facial expressions in this game are pretty strange.

Music in the trailer was lovely.

[bud]

1:01 - They are "ready to start" developing FF XIII. So first they will complete the PS3 version in Japan, then start a localization for the US and Europe while they start development on the 360 version.

1:03 - The PS3 and the 360 versions will be released simultaneously in the US and Europe, but not Japan.

this does not make any sense at all

so they'll have finished the ps3 version
they'll release it in japan
they'll start with the 360 version
localize both
and then release both at the same time in the west

wtf

[Howard Alan Treesong]

FFXIII

[fistfulofmetal]

1:01 - They are "ready to start" developing FF XIII. So first they will complete the PS3 version in Japan, then start a localization for the US and Europe while they start development on the 360 version.

1:03 - The PS3 and the 360 versions will be released simultaneously in the US and Europe, but not Japan.

this does not make any sense at all

so they'll have finished the ps3 version
they'll release it in japan
they'll start with the 360 version
localize both
and then release both at the same time in the west

wtf

AKA Sony managed to pull together some form of exclusivity

[Powerslave]

Playstation.

Now on Xbox 360.

lol

[bud]

1:01 - They are "ready to start" developing FF XIII. So first they will complete the PS3 version in Japan, then start a localization for the US and Europe while they start development on the 360 version.

1:03 - The PS3 and the 360 versions will be released simultaneously in the US and Europe, but not Japan.

this does not make any sense at all

so they'll have finished the ps3 version
they'll release it in japan
they'll start with the 360 version
localize both
and then release both at the same time in the west

wtf

AKA Sony managed to pull together some form of exclusivity

i know, but it says that in the time they develop the 360 version, they'll localize the game, and then release both versions

isn't localizing supposed to take less time than actual game development i.e. why is the ps3 version not coming out sooner i.e. sony fails

or am i totally reading it wrong

[y2kev]

it's not your fault, bud. it's shitty translation. the scenario square enix described makes absolutely zero sense; additionally, it's silly to think they don't have translators/localizers localizing at least parts of it while the game is actually in development.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

isn't localizing supposed to take less time than actual game development i.e. why is the ps3 version not coming out sooner i.e. sony fails

or am i totally reading it wrong

Localizing a game the size of FFXIII would definitely take more time than porting a (completed) PS3 game to the Xbox 360.

I'd estimate the localization at about 4-5 months, and the 360 port at 6-8 weeks. (And that's for a good, relatively optimized port.)

[Jansen]

so it seems like they're going to delay the game in NA for the 360 version. not cool s-e if that is the case.

[Pharmacy]

wait so its not ps3 exclusive anymore?

im fucking selling my ps3 now, no joke

[Howard Alan Treesong]

so it seems like they're going to delay the game in NA for the 360 version. not cool s-e if that is the case.

pretty much

PS3 takes it up the ass from 360 one more time

[Pharmacy]

wtf i still cant believe this is true

i probably could have a meltdown

[y2kev]

so it seems like they're going to delay the game in NA for the 360 version. not cool s-e if that is the case.

pretty much

PS3 takes it up the ass from 360 one more time

i really think that's a translation error. they'd have to port over the entire white engine and then the game on top of it in 6-8 weeks by your estimate. and these are japanese developers.

If you look at the IGN transcript, they quote Kitase as saying they're "ready to begin developing." By that remark, the game is at least 4 years away.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

so it seems like they're going to delay the game in NA for the 360 version. not cool s-e if that is the case.

pretty much

PS3 takes it up the ass from 360 one more time

i really think that's a translation error. they'd have to port over the entire white engine and then the game on top of it in 6-8 weeks by your estimate. and these are japanese developers.

If you look at the IGN transcript, they quote Kitase as saying they're "ready to begin developing." By that remark, the game is at least 4 years away.

well, I mean, they haven't done any work on FFXIII yet. this much is obvious from the trailers and interviews so far. THERE IS NO GAME.

Crystal Tools is multiplatform to begin with, 6-8 weeks is for optimization and polish. most teams only get 2-3 weeks at the end to port their game from 360 to PS3. 6-8 is being extremely generous and accounting for 1) Square doesn't have much experience with multiplatform polish 2) this will be the first multiplatform Crystal Tools game, so there will be some extra work needed to finish it up.

[demi]

1:18 - Hey Kitase, what American games are you influenced by? Mass Effect?

1:19 - No, says Kitase. I'm not.

bioware fuck owned

eb is bizarroland about games (likes asscrud all of a sudden), but generally speaking at least kitase (and team) designs 20-25 hours of game per game he works on. bioware generally cuts off around 5.

i suppose if ff13 is 5 hours of content stretched to 40 hours we can say that mass effect has indeed influenced kitase

Only Mupepe likes Assassin's Creed - both games are pretty crap (yes, pretty)

[Crushed]

Square just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance. Oh, and no one will want anything to do with you when you're a shameful person.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase FFXIII for either system, nor will they purchase any of Square's games. This is HUGE. I'm surprised none of my fellow JGaffers have pointed out what a big deal this is. You can laugh all you want, but Square has alienated an entire market with this move.

Square, publicly apologize and cancel FFXIII for 360 or you can kiss your business goodbye.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327004&page=18

[y2kev]

so it seems like they're going to delay the game in NA for the 360 version. not cool s-e if that is the case.

pretty much

PS3 takes it up the ass from 360 one more time

i really think that's a translation error. they'd have to port over the entire white engine and then the game on top of it in 6-8 weeks by your estimate. and these are japanese developers.

If you look at the IGN transcript, they quote Kitase as saying they're "ready to begin developing." By that remark, the game is at least 4 years away.

well, I mean, they haven't done any work on FFXIII yet. this much is obvious from the trailers and interviews so far. THERE IS NO GAME.

Crystal Tools is multiplatform to begin with, 6-8 weeks is for optimization and polish. most teams only get 2-3 weeks at the end to port their game from 360 to PS3. 6-8 is being extremely generous and accounting for 1) Square doesn't have much experience with multiplatform polish 2) this will be the first multiplatform Crystal Tools game, so there will be some extra work needed to finish it up.

if there is literally no game, what has the ffx staff been doing for the past 3 years?

[drohne]

if there is literally no game, what has the ffx staff been doing for the past 3 years?

beating off to rare bootleg footage of gackt concerts

[Crushed]

http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/167214253/p1

someone post this for dot50cal in the ffxiii thread on gaf, he wants to do a dramatic reading but can't find the right post


this is the right post

[bachikarn]

wake me up when they show ffxiiVS