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The PA guys are basically full fledged Microsoft corporate partners these days, so can everyone just stop acting like their opinions still mean more than a random Xbot posting on a forum?  These dudes have an exclusive game out on the 360, Major Nelson regularly talks about 'hanging" with them, and their PAX expo is damn near a Microsoft sponsored event. 


So let's just get that out in the open from now on.  We've all seen their funny comic about E3 by now, but let's all be honest about where exactly they're coming from, since it isn't exactly hard to figure out anymore.
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What comic?
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bitter fucking tears

penny arcade has hated on every game company at one point in time, xbox even more so
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i got a 3 month ban on neo-gaf for suggesting PA treats microsoft games differently (by giving examples of multiple games they don't like, yet approach the posts very differently).  

edit: and it doesn't really matter who they have hated on in the old days. 

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i got a 3 month ban on neo-gaf for suggesting PA treats microsoft games differently (by giving examples of multiple games they don't like, yet approach the posts very differently).  
That thread's culling was like an enema for GAF.
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Cry more.

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my god, what of the other webcomics i sometimes read. is 'white ninja' a neutral entity? perhaps hidden affiliations lurk within the apparent neutrality of his white costume

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Post the comic please
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leper this filth
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bitter fucking tears

penny arcade has hated on every game company at one point in time, xbox even more so

Riiiiiight.  Things have been VERY different the past year or so, and it's just getting old seeing no one bring it out into the open.  They may poke fun at Microsoft, but in the end they're very careful to not be too harsh on them.  Those special handling rules only apply to Microsoft.
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Post the comic please
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as you can clearly see, they made fun of sony and didn't show the ps3 winning the console war and all its fans getting lots of hot chicks
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Conspiracies, bias!

Leper this kid.
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Post the comic please

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Looks accurate to me. Tigerriot crying just like when McCain loses
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i got a 3 month ban on neo-gaf for suggesting PA treats microsoft games differently (by giving examples of multiple games they don't like, yet approach the posts very differently).  

edit: and it doesn't really matter who they have hated on in the old days. 


The truth comes rolling into town.  Thanks for the example.  Any more Xbots want to go on record stating Penny Arcade are neutral these days.  :lol

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I honestly think that lets Nintendo off easy. It's not "stuff I don't care about," (well, it is) but it's just lazily designed stuff that I don't think looks good at all. Last year Wii Fit really...well, it was obvious that wii fit was well designed even if it was well designed garbage. Wii Music looks like a complete joke. If you can't pass judgment on it because IT'S NOT FOR YOU then whatever.

I've never seen such a lazy piece of trash from Nintendo.
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Conspiracies, bias!

Leper this kid.
I wonder if he uses bias like an adjective, like approximately 75% of the internet.

"They are bias!"



fake edit: oh god dyfb and tiggeriot hi-fiving each other about their tin-foil hat conspiracies

when did the sfags invade eb
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when did the sfags invade eb

when they got banned from gaf  :-\
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fake edit: oh god dyfb and tiggeriot hi-fiving each other about their tin-foil hat conspiracies (Image removed from quote.)

when did the sfags invade eb

they were meant for each other.  :hump
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bitter fucking tears

penny arcade has hated on every game company at one point in time, xbox even more so

Riiiiiight.  Things have been VERY different the past year or so, and it's just getting old seeing no one bring it out into the open.  They make poke fun at Microsoft, but in the end they're very careful to not be too harsh on them.  Those special handling rules only apply to Microsoft.

hey look I didnt even read your post and I knew what it was about

and ive read these stupid pa conspiracy theorys countless times

I bet you wish they would go back to hating on halo like they used to right, trollll
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Due to my ignore list, I'm seeing about 5 replies in this thread right now.  :lol



To those who doubt people are getting banned for critizing Penny Arcade on Gaf.  Someone just got banned today on the front page of the thread discussing this comic.  But no, that didn't happen!  Because this is all just a conpiracy!
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Don't worry Tigger, you are not alone. But here, this is like pissing on a hornets nest.
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Due to my ignore list, I'm seeing about 5 replies in this thread right now.  :lol
"I reject reality and replace it with my own."
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Due to my ignore list, I'm seeing about 5 replies in this thread right now.  :lol

Glad you accomplished something by posting here then
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To those who doubt people are getting banned for critizing Penny Arcade on Gaf.  Someone just got banned today on the front page of the thread discussing this comic.  But no, that didn't happen!  Because this is all just a conpiracy!

It was another conspiracy lunatic who was complaining about getting banned last time and was trying to start shit again.
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UGH leper this filth :maf
Too many tearful sfags.  One is good for amusement/contrast, but three in one thread high fiving each other... SMH.

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Are all conservatives this insane?
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This is GAF level console-wars faggotry here... that said, this is definitely one of PA's better ones, the encapsulation of the MS conference being the one that made me laugh the most.
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make a youtube video where you dissect the bans in SLOW-MO

"did you see it? let's watch that again. one more time... there."
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Due to my ignore list, I'm seeing about 5 replies in this thread right now.  :lol

Glad you accomplished something by posting here then

For some reason you are not on my ignore list, but I didn't post this thread to win some argument.  I posted it to just slap the facts out there for anyone who wishes to believe otherwise.  They're not fooling anyone anymore.  Penny Arcade are basically a mouthpiece for their game publishing partner, Microsoft, and their buddy, Major Nelson.  In other words, their opinions are meaningless, just like when Major Nelson gives his opinion on what he thinks of the PS3.

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In other words, their opinions are meaningless, just like when Major Nelson gives his opinion on what he thinks of the PS3.

... duh

Duh?

Duh
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i don't think the most recent comic is a great example of their microsoft bias.  and i don't think it's as much of a microsoft bias as it is just a "appease the populus" mindset, and microsoft happens to be popular now.   

just look at their posts (not just the comics) about MGS4 and then compare them to their posts about halo 3 (two games they dislike).  they are cautious with their language and reach out to halo fans, and then for MGS4 they write the most convoluted, elitist, condescending shit you'll ever see on their site.  

i never said it was a conspiracy--i've just pointed out how they do show a clear bias.  it's not a tin foil hat theory so troll someone else.  only an idiot would look at penny arcade as a neutral, objective party--the problem is that many people who agree with PA's opinion like to give authority to PA.  PA are very much like anyone else on the internet posting their opinion, and yeah, it usually involves a form of bias.  

the 3 month ban i got just shows how horribly incompetent neo-gaf's community management can be.  a 3 month ban for disagreeing with an opinion on a discussion forum--absolutely ridiculous.  
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Tigerriot isn't an SFag, hes a hardcore Nfag, get ya'll allegiances right!
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Take the ban crying to the other thread... this is about insane republitards and their eventual suicide when Balack Obama sits in that comfy oval office
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oh my god gas this thread

gas these distinguished mentally-challenged fellows
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There are a total of two interesting, relevant announcements from these three presentations combined. The first is that Microsoft has decided, three years into the system's lifespan, that they made the wrong console. Without warning, in the middle of a presentation jutting with skewers of sizzling beef for the faithful, the entire presentation devolved into a series of gruesome outtakes from the fucking Today Show. They have seen the future, and it is the past. To that end, they have committed to a radical alteration of the user experience. I have no idea what to make of it yet, and the product as shown in in turbulent flux: this single walkthrough clearly shows as many as three versions of the future Dashboard. Gabriel tells me that the Avatars are alright. I don't know.

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o no people are getting banned on a messageboard for criticising a webcomic.  sound the alarm.



dispatched and on the way to this thread

and this thread has gone from leper territory to cleanse-purge-kill territory
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not all conservatives go nintendo. to say the very least, I stay WAY THE FUCK AWAY from political threads on the pc wargaming boards i frequent.

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it did always disturb me on ign's nintendo boards how so many of my fellow nfags were republicans

even this one dumbass nfag mod who rejected evolution and liked to join arguments about it and shout "PROOF"
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Quote from: Tycho
There are a total of two interesting, relevant announcements from these three presentations combined. The first is that Microsoft has decided, three years into the system's lifespan, that they made the wrong console. Without warning, in the middle of a presentation jutting with skewers of sizzling beef for the faithful, the entire presentation devolved into a series of gruesome outtakes from the fucking Today Show. They have seen the future, and it is the past. To that end, they have committed to a radical alteration of the user experience. I have no idea what to make of it yet, and the product as shown in in turbulent flux: this single walkthrough clearly shows as many as three versions of the future Dashboard. Gabriel tells me that the Avatars are alright. I don't know.

Wow, those are some really mean things they're saying there.  ::)  It's one thing to critique an obviously casual/family centric part of Microsoft's press conference.  It's a whole other thing to completely attack the very reason for existance of the competition's machine.  

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Why doesn't Penny Arcade ever mention that the PS3 is $150 more than its competitors?  

Biased fucks.

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damn you penny arcade

damn you
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It's remarkable how little I care about this type of shit these days. The blessed curse of growing old, I suppose, but this really means nothing to me. Regardless of whether they are affiliated with Microsoft or not.

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Going back to what Genghis said earlier, if real or perceived bias concerning video games bothers you, it's time to tune out. Kids, they're just games, not all that important. If it bothers you, it better be because it has an effect on your back account.

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the hypocrisy shown here and on GAF is that you all throw "tin foil hat"-trolls at anyone who points out a PA bias, but then turn around and call Shane an sfag etc.  it is no different.  

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the hypocrisy shown here and on GAF is that you all throw "tin foil hat"-trolls at anyone who points out a PA bias, but then turn around and call Shane an sfag etc.  it is no different.  

k, then go away sfag
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Here is another part of Tycho's post today about E3.  I guess patrickula "forgot" to post this part earlier.


Quote from: Tycho
As for Sony, well, let's talk about Sony.

There is nothing I hate more than a foregone conclusion. Beneath every vicious (that is to say, factual) statement I have ever made regarding the company, there has existed the indubitable truth of their ultimate victory. This certainty extends, yea, even unto the company itself, which is why they have done so little to earn your love. The rumble-free controller with built-in batteries, the one that turns off while you're updating your console every other week, that one that inexplicably loses signal from time to time but everyone is too chivalrous to discuss it, the one that is now obsolete because two years ago they tried to save money on something they knew they would have to pay anyway - this "six axis" is the icon of a system coasting on global brand inertia. Announcing features that your competitors have had for coming up on two years does not a riveting presentation make. Exclusive PSN content (like a movie length Ratchet and Clank game, or thatgamecompany's Flower) are still the company's most compelling asset.


There is one aspect of this Tycho quote that I absolutely love.  He brings up the PS3 controllers that "inexplicably lose their signal from time to time, but everyone is too chivalrous to discuss it". 

That is one of the most ironic comments of all time from an Xbot.  Considering practically the whole world was too fucking chivalrous to tell the fucking truth about just how god fucking awful the RROD problems really are, and how pathetically slimey Microsoft's attempts to ignore it really were.  Irony doesn't get much rich than that folks.  He's butt hurt that no one will go after Sony's big bad controller problem, which by the way was completely fixed on units manufactured soon after launch, and yet doesn't say a whole lot about the 360 systems failing in record breaking numbers.  Hilarious.
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oh my god the stupid

the stupid in this thread


just shoot these things before they spill more fetid excrement from their flap-jawed maws
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Tycho brings up valid points. What is the problem?
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the hypocrisy shown here and on GAF is that you all throw "tin foil hat"-trolls at anyone who points out a PA bias, but then turn around and call Shane an sfag etc.  it is no different. 

EB is practically a living, breathing monument and celebration of hypocrisy. It's the recognition of this fact, and the proud flashing of the 'Cynic Old Twit' badge, that makes it different. You'll find a general leaning towards the Xbox brand here, but that's purely a matter of numbers. Roll with it, that's the lesson of the day.

That said, there would certainly be a different tone if the situation was reversed, that is true. But again, hypocrisy is the lifeblood of this place.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2008, 03:53:50 PM by duckman2000 »

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the hypocrisy shown here and on GAF is that you all throw "tin foil hat"-trolls at anyone who points out a PA bias, but then turn around and call Shane an sfag etc.  it is no different.  

haha, the funny thing is you getting butthurt over what PA says
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you guys seem to get awful worked up over something you claim to be meaningless.

why do conservatives always pick Nintendo?  I guess it has to do with holing up in a old timey fantasy world where reality doesn't fully penetrate.

I always see the "conservatives = Nintendo" line... don't know if I buy it. I'm a Nintendo fan (although, there's no way for me to defend the travesty of this past E3) but have been voting Democrat since I've been old enough to vote.

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If anything, I'd think the Xbox market would be the conservatives, mainly based on hearing all the good ol' Southern boy talk on XBL.
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Here is another part of Tycho's post today about E3.  I guess patrickula "forgot" to post this part earlier.



Egad! Does he kiss his mother with that mouth?

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jesus someone please old yeller this thread
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:piss this thread :piss2
:piss tiggeriot :piss2
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NO DONT KILL IT, the lulz emanating is glorious

Who else is biased?

I hear N'Gai Croal loves that Sony machine. Why doesnt he ever say good things about Microsoft?
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Who else is biased?
the jews and the reptilians are renowned for their M$$$$$ and Nintendum bias, respectively.
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the hypocrisy shown here and on GAF is that you all throw "tin foil hat"-trolls at anyone who points out a PA bias, but then turn around and call Shane an sfag etc.  it is no different. 

EB is practically a living, breathing monument and celebration of hypocrisy. It's the recognition of this fact, and the proud flashing of the 'Cynic Old Twit' badge, that makes it different. You'll find a general leaning towards the Xbox brand here, but that's purely a matter of numbers. Roll with it, that's the lesson of the day.

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