Author Topic: THE SOUL STILL BURNS (Read 19187 times)

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #120 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:35:13 PM »

Quote from: The Iconistrator on July 30, 2008, 01:32:08 PM

720p looks fine.

Well, as long as your TV is 720p also. On my 58" plasma, the difference between 720p and 1080P is pretty obvious. Flat panels just suck at scaling, compared to CRTs.

cool breeze · « **Reply #121 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:35:49 PM »

Yeah, I am running it at 720p on my 1080p tv and it looks amazing. I don't know if this or VF5 is better graphically.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #122 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:36:50 PM »

You can force VF5 to upscale to 1080P also but it looks all weird compared to the native 720P mode.

MCD · « **Reply #123 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:38:40 PM »

just bought it.

looks amazing, best looking fighting game.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #124 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:40:22 PM »

Hilde's armor is OMG. I wish I could put it on other characters.

cool breeze · « **Reply #125 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:41:50 PM »

Oh, and yeah, Hilde is awesome. I played as her for a bit and she is surprisingly good. Charging up the spear and unleashing it after a flurry of short sword and kicking attacks is awesome.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #126 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:43:51 PM »

Did anyone try Hori's fighting stick for the 360? How is it?

I'm thinking of getting one as a stop gap solution until I can find a HRAP or good custom stick.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #127 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:47:23 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on July 30, 2008, 01:41:50 PM

Oh, and yeah, Hilde is awesome. I played as her for a bit and she is surprisingly good. Charging up the spear and unleashing it after a flurry of short sword and kicking attacks is awesome.

Yeah, she's my new main. But she has a lot of problems vs 8-way at longer ranges and up close there are characters that can totally monopolize the space. I've had the AI so easily sidestep the longer spear attacks and she takes a second longer to recover than I would like

She still has some great short-range moves thanks to some great fast short sword attacks and solid kick attacks, but really keeping the enemy in midrange allows her to deal massive pain.

MCD · « **Reply #128 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:50:17 PM »

I'm playing with the 360 analog just like i played SC2 on the gamecube's controller.

cool breeze · « **Reply #129 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 30, 2008, 01:43:51 PM

Did anyone try Hori's fighting stick for the 360? How is it?

I'm thinking of getting one as a stop gap solution until I can find a HRAP or good custom stick.

If it is the same as the PS3 one, then it is passable, but not nearly as good as a a HRAP or VSHG. It is better than playing with a controller at least. I create characters using the controllers and when I need to test them out, it always feels really awkward playing with it.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #130 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:52:39 PM »

I'm horrible with a stick, so im usin the d-pad

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #131 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:55:03 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on July 30, 2008, 01:50:44 PM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 30, 2008, 01:43:51 PM
Did anyone try Hori's fighting stick for the 360? How is it?

I'm thinking of getting one as a stop gap solution until I can find a HRAP or good custom stick.

If it is the same as the PS3 one, then it is passable, but not nearly as good as a a HRAP or VSHG. It is better than playing with a controller at least. I create characters using the controllers and when I need to test them out, it always feels really awkward playing with it.

I have the PS3 stick. It's kinda crap. I'd rather use the Tekken 5 10th anniversary stick, which is still not quite as good as a HRAP.

Is there someplace that sells a custom stick that works for both the PS3 and 360? I like what arcadeinabox is selling but $150-200 is kinda expensive for a stick that only works with one system.

MCD · « **Reply #132 on:** July 30, 2008, 01:55:36 PM »

if you can open your 360 controller, there is an easy fix for the dpad.

http://www.gamersyde.com/forum_33_27677_1_en.html

no sanding needed, just put a pringles can lid or something like it under the dpad and you are good to go.

cool breeze · « **Reply #133 on:** July 30, 2008, 02:02:44 PM »

Quote from: The Iconistrator on July 30, 2008, 01:52:39 PM

I'm horrible with a stick, so im usin the d-pad

I think the good part of an arcade stick isn't really the stick, but comfortable access to all the responsive face buttons at once. I would say that I am actually better at pulling on specific moves and things with my saturn controller than I am with a stick, but having all 6 buttons there makes it much easier to play. An example is when playing with Taxi and I wanted to do the move where she jumps of you, I would need to somehow press square and circle at the same time, but on the arcade stick since I am using fingers and not my thumb, I am able to do combinations easily.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #134 on:** July 30, 2008, 02:05:54 PM »

Yeah I see where people are coming from, I think this is a personal problem!

JustinP · « **Reply #135 on:** July 30, 2008, 02:14:32 PM »

i've been using my stick i built and am loving it. x+triangle is easy enough to do with the thumb but i have to use the claw method to do square+O with a pad.

JustinP · « **Reply #136 on:** July 30, 2008, 03:30:25 PM »

how do i switch characters in the tower..?

edit: nvm. mapped a button to swt.

drohne · « **Reply #137 on:** July 30, 2008, 04:43:51 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 30, 2008, 01:36:50 PM

You can force VF5 to upscale to 1080P also but it looks all weird compared to the native 720P mode.

vf5 was one of the first ps3 games to upscale, and it actually renders at a lower resolution in its forced 1080p mode. there's really nothing magical about upscaling, and a 360, your tv, or a recent, well-coded ps3 game will all do a very similar job of interpolating and filtering. the 360's universal scaling is useful if your tv's scaler is particularly laggy, i guess

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #138 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:15:48 PM »

My God, the Apprentice is fucking cheap. Took me nine tries to beat him with Vader in arcade mode last night.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #139 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:16:32 PM »

do you have to play on hard to get the apprentice

i was playing on normal and never ran into him

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #140 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:18:48 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on July 30, 2008, 07:16:32 PM

do you have to play on hard to get the apprentice

i was playing on normal and never ran into him

Oops, I meant arcade mode, not story mode.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #141 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:21:31 PM »

oh, okay

haven't had much time to play with it since i bought it, so i haven't tried arcade mode yet

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #142 on:** July 30, 2008, 07:24:10 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on July 30, 2008, 07:21:31 PM

oh, okay

haven't had much time to play with it since i bought it, so i haven't tried arcade mode yet

Yeah, me neither. I played for probably 90 minutes last night, and I wouldn't have tried out arcade mode if MAF hadn't brought up unlocking the Apprentice.

drohne · « **Reply #143 on:** July 30, 2008, 08:59:05 PM »

just played a couple quick ranked matches, and they were really smooth for me -- i wasn't expecting much at all. the last 3d fighter i tried online was doa4 circa launch, and that was in slow motion most of the time. maybe this isn't good enough for serious players, but i'm a highly unserious player

i pwned some dude's cervantes with my fagbag custom character

then i got pwned by some dude's ziggy :'(

y2kev · « **Reply #144 on:** July 30, 2008, 09:16:49 PM »

the game looks pretty good. the backgrounds are kinda eh but the characters are nice.

i don't think it's very well balanced, but it's fun. I wish it had a real vf4 evo style training mode. I'm waiting for all fighting games to have a mode that really teaches you how to play. I bet SF4 will have something like that.

Akala · « **Reply #145 on:** July 30, 2008, 11:07:04 PM »

Played a few games online. I'm rusty, but had fun.

Played better than expected over wifi, but I'll probably hook it up through a cable this weekend. Guard impacting failed me more than it should have, and it's easier to just blame the lag.

drohne · « **Reply #146 on:** July 31, 2008, 05:59:30 AM »

oh -- there's the game-breaking lag people were talking about. i guess i got lucky with those first couple matches, cos i've now had some really unplayably bad ones, and a well-rated connection doesn't guarantee much. some good ones too, but...yeah

also i have no idea how to play taki. her moves are really cool, and she's fun to use in single player, but i just get fucked by characters who hit harder with much longer weapons

tiesto · « **Reply #147 on:** July 31, 2008, 09:12:06 AM »

Damn... when is there gonna be a lag-free fighting game? $:-\$

cool breeze · « **Reply #148 on:** July 31, 2008, 09:57:10 AM »

When everyone has high speed internet. I mean fiber optics and the like.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #149 on:** July 31, 2008, 11:10:40 AM »

online will probably be a bunch of talims once people figure out the lag is bad

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #150 on:** July 31, 2008, 12:51:32 PM »

i fucking despise arcade mode

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #151 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:05:55 PM »

Wow, Yoda kinda sucks. He's not even a good player to play with. Haven' unlocked Apprentice yet, so I can't judge him.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #152 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:29:14 PM »

Hilde is awesome but she seems to be weak vs a lot of characters. Or I still suck using her. We'll see.

JustinP · « **Reply #153 on:** July 31, 2008, 01:56:33 PM »

when messing around with hilde, i couldn't really find any good horizontal ranged attacks. felt like she could only stab long range, which was messed up with the slightest side step.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #154 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:03:15 PM »

Yup, her long range is uhh

Her mid-range is awesome, and her short range is fairly average.

I have a bad habit of picking difficult gimped characters tho, so im sure ill get the hang of it,

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #155 on:** July 31, 2008, 06:34:56 PM »

Seung Mina sure changed a lot since 2. (I skipped 3: didn't have a PS2 at the time.)

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #156 on:** July 31, 2008, 06:46:39 PM »

She feels different from 3 even. Course im no HARDCOR3 Mina player.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #157 on:** July 31, 2008, 06:48:26 PM »

Quote from: The Iconistrator on July 31, 2008, 06:46:39 PM

She feels different from 3 even. Course im no HARDCOR3 Mina player.

Yeah, man, the inputs for some of my favorite moves are all different and shit. Gotta hit practice mode, then...

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #158 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:02:25 PM »

IMO shes only been getting better since 2, in that I dont view her as a cheesy fuck character anymore

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #159 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:09:09 PM »

I just picked up the PS3 version. Haven't done too much with it so far other than play a few rounds of story mode with a couple characters and attepted to make my own. I noticed how easy it was to make a guy look exactly like Sawyer from Lost which made me think about trying to some other people from the show. Up next - Locke.

y2kev · « **Reply #160 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:09:41 PM »

talim's voice MAKES ME RAGEEEE

Jansen · « **Reply #161 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:22:59 PM »

well playing the two versions i'm gonna go with 360 on this one. it simply looks better when upscaled (ps3 version looks kinda fugly forcing it to upscale).

also, both vader and yoda suck ass. i have no idea why anyone would engage in an argument as to which one is better.

now i just need a better controller. sanding did help a bit but it's still not ideal.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #162 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:58:12 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 31, 2008, 01:05:55 PM

Haven' unlocked Apprentice yet, so I can't judge him.

Ridiculously overpowered and cheap beyond your wildest dreams.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #163 on:** July 31, 2008, 08:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 31, 2008, 07:09:09 PM

I just picked up the PS3 version. Haven't done too much with it so far other than play a few rounds of story mode with a couple characters and attepted to make my own. I noticed how easy it was to make a guy look exactly like Sawyer from Lost which made me think about trying to some other people from the show. Up next - Locke.

I created a pretty decent kunoichi without hueg bewbs. I saw the R. Kelly one on GAF.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #164 on:** July 31, 2008, 08:08:47 PM »

Yeah, that R. Kelly is awesome.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #165 on:** July 31, 2008, 08:17:41 PM »

Quote from: The Iconistrator on July 31, 2008, 07:02:25 PM

IMO shes only been getting better since 2, in that I dont view her as a cheesy fuck character anymore

I never viewed as cheesy. I kinda liked her looks.

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on July 31, 2008, 08:08:47 PM

Yeah, that R. Kelly is awesome.

He posted the how-to on the custom characters thread, methinks...

Jansen · « **Reply #166 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:16:05 PM »

Quote from: McDragon on July 30, 2008, 01:55:36 PM

if you can open your 360 controller, there is an easy fix for the dpad.

http://www.gamersyde.com/forum_33_27677_1_en.html

no sanding needed, just put a pringles can lid or something like it under the dpad and you are good to go.

holy balls this method actually helped a fucking lot. awesome!

bork · « **Reply #167 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:41:39 AM »

Put me into the "360 version is better" camp. I played the PS3 version all last night, unlocking stuff and messing around. This morning I hooked up my 360 (just moved) and tried the game out, and there is a noticeable difference. The 360 version looks a little better (cleaner picture) and DEFINITELY loads faster (and yes, I installed data on my PS3). It's also nice that you can unlock all the stock characters in like 10 minutes. Unlocking everyone doesn't take that much time either. I'm glad it doesn't take forever; I hate unlocking characters in general but this felt relatively painless. Now to do it again on 360.

Vader is okay I guess. He's better than Yoda, who is just WEIRD. Apprentice seems kinda cool, but I don't want fucking Star Wars characters in Namco fighting games. Sure this is better than Spawn, but not by too much.

I see DLC is already up too. You can buy old songs and some custom parts from the original SC.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #168 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:55:18 AM »

My Lost dudes.

Sawyer:

Locke....still needs work:

Locke VS Sawyer

TVC15 · « **Reply #169 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:56:49 AM »

Is there a way to unlock tag mode for normal versus matches? It has to be an option, right?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #170 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:57:20 AM »

that is awesome. we need jack! (shame there's no hurley physique.)

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #171 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:01:29 AM »

Hurley DLC please.

drohne · « **Reply #172 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:36:38 AM »

online is addictive even though it's crap. turning down matches with connection ratings <4 helps somewhat. i'm on a little mitsurugi winning streak, and i've just about repaired the damage taki did to my record

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #173 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:41:19 AM »

I assume chances depend largely on picking certain characters? Hilde is already kinda rough to play against people, cant imagine online with lag.

drohne · « **Reply #174 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:48:45 AM »

yeah, probably not a good idea to use finesse characters -- sometimes things get so laggy that you've just got to spam high-priority attacks and hope for the best

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #175 on:** August 01, 2008, 01:49:25 AM »

Oh well, Raph has enough in his arsenal, maybe ill give him a spin this weekend.

TVC15 · « **Reply #176 on:** August 01, 2008, 03:28:47 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on August 01, 2008, 12:56:49 AM

Is there a way to unlock tag mode for normal versus matches? It has to be an option, right?

Anyone? The feature HAS to be in there.

drohne · « **Reply #177 on:** August 01, 2008, 04:40:08 AM »

this 1up guide goes over character strengths, weaknesses, changes, etc -- though i can't really tell you how accurate it is

http://www.mycheats.com/view/superguide/3160240/soul_calibur_4/xbox_360

y2kev · « **Reply #178 on:** August 01, 2008, 05:45:13 AM »

If it's by Richard Li, then it's probably totally believable and well done. If there is input from Shane, it's garbage.

TVC15 · « **Reply #179 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:27:57 AM »

Man, the Star Wars shit kinda ruins arcade mode. Both Yoda and The Apprentice are so cheap (and in the case of the Apprentice, way overpowered) that it ruins the flow of the game.

I'm also kinda pissed that there is no tag team option for vs player. Why is it only in story mode? That's so fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

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Author Topic: THE SOUL STILL BURNS (Read 19187 times)