DVD is not Enough: Bioshock PS3 to look Superior b/c of Bluray

[MCD]

both games are shit.

[cool breeze]

I think I kinda see what he is saying, but I don't think it was too apparent in Uncharted.  Some sections in Uncharted were fought all around and you weren't just moving on a horizontal plane, so there were times when you could be climbing objects to use as cover and shit like that.  Infamous is doing it much better. 

I thought the melee stuff was ass aside from the simplest [][][] combo. I could never get the timing of any of the other moves.

I probably don't remember the different combos, but I remember being able to run up to a guy, doing some quick uppercut combo, and right away grab his gun and keep running.  I liked that.  I appreciate that it isn't the one animation hit over and over like Halo, Gears, Resistance, etc are.

[y2kev]

I thought the melee stuff was ass aside from the simplest [][][] combo. I could never get the timing of any of the other moves.

[JustinP]

From Bioshock PS3 to Uncharted sequel in 2 pages.

EB

DCharlie manipulates us all masterfully once again

"Uncharted was the first time you had that level of interactivity with your environment in a shooter. "

snort

That one had me confused as well.

...?  you could climb all over the environment and even peak over a ledge to shoot people from a hanging position, etc.  but like i said, the game rarely exploits this.  

[JustinP]

I thought the melee stuff was ass aside from the simplest [][][] combo. I could never get the timing of any of the other moves.

once i got the hang of it, it was badass.  and the combos were pretty deep for this type of game and actually had benefits to using them.  the ammo bonus you get from downing someone with melee was great.  you could also quickly end people with a punch->shoot combo. 

[duckman2000]

Infamous is doing it much better.

Infamous  Sucker Punch

[JustinP]

the texture blending is unmatched--i would often take my time just looking at the walls, trying (but failing) to find repeated textures.  

Often, did ya?

getting rid of repeating texture symdrome is still a huge hurdle for games today and it goes a long way in making the game world believable.  so yeah, i would take breaks from the action and enjoy the environment.  in a way, it was exploration of the details. 

[cool breeze]

I know that I will take in the environment with Rage.

  Carmack
  Megatextures

[Wolf Gang]

I think the only reason it took three bullets to kill enemies in Uncharted is because Naughty Dog wanted you to practice the Mozambique Drill in the game world before you did it in the real world.



Hopefully we get Nate Drake in a bad ass suit like that in the next game, in a straight up urban environment.

[Draft]

the texture blending is unmatched--i would often take my time just looking at the walls, trying (but failing) to find repeated textures.  

Often, did ya?

getting rid of repeating texture symdrome is still a huge hurdle for games today and it goes a long way in making the game world believable.  so yeah, i would take breaks from the action and enjoy the environment.  in a way, it was exploration of the details. 

Tell me more.

[JustinP]

the texture blending is unmatched--i would often take my time just looking at the walls, trying (but failing) to find repeated textures.  

Often, did ya?

getting rid of repeating texture symdrome is still a huge hurdle for games today and it goes a long way in making the game world believable.  so yeah, i would take breaks from the action and enjoy the environment.  in a way, it was exploration of the details. 

Tell me more.

don't make me post uncharted screenshots.  i'll do it. 

[Wolf Gang]

Why are you being such a dick to JustinP?

The man knows how to appreciate art when he sees it, goddamn.

[Draft]

the texture blending is unmatched--i would often take my time just looking at the walls, trying (but failing) to find repeated textures.  

Often, did ya?

getting rid of repeating texture symdrome is still a huge hurdle for games today and it goes a long way in making the game world believable.  so yeah, i would take breaks from the action and enjoy the environment.  in a way, it was exploration of the details. 

Tell me more.

don't make me post uncharted screenshots.  i'll do it. 

No no, don't post screenshots.

Post off screen camera pics.

[Mrbob]

I'm playing the superior PC version at the moment but it is good to see PS3 fans get the second best version of the game.

[Brehvolution]

Shit fuck piss cunt.... smh

System wars, hurting mah brain. I will not buy this. I played BS off of steam and loved it til it became a grind of hacking minigames, fetch quests, and backtracking. I couldn't be bothered to even finish it. Not my GOTY.

Maybe I'll replay it someday. But I'll have to be pretty bored.

[Brehvolution]

I'm playing the superior PC version at the moment but it is good to see PS3 fans get the second best version of the game.

Either they just want to sell more games or it is the superior version. Given the time it took to come to the PS3, there is no good reason why it couldn't be the definitive version. We'll wait and see cause I'm sure there will be comparison vids out the wazoo

[abrader]

boom i got yo girlfriend

[y2kev]

yep my fellow stards, i do say we have taken over the evilbore for ourselves

UNCHA

[WrikaWrek]

Go fuck a goat

[JustinP]

Go fuck a goat

[Tabasco]

yep my fellow stards, i do say we have taken over the evilbore for ourselves

UNCHA

[y2kev]

Go fuck a goat

the goat will have better ai than any game ever released, and the announcement of said goat will not be cut short because our goat hating president is a malcontent!

[Crushed]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

[cool breeze]

Are you talking about the new main character from the Prince of Persia game?

[Joe Molotov]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

Every thread's not about you, Crushed. 

[Draft]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

He's like a totally down to earth treasure hunting pirate murdering gymnast. You see, he dresses basically like we do!

[JustinP]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

is that was this thread was discussing? 

[Crushed]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

Every thread's not about you, Crushed. 

[WrikaWrek]

He weights like 2 kilos too, probably why he was killing them brownies, he was looking for some weed.

It's obvious he follows a diet, the dude was seeing monsters and shit by the end of it, fucking castway motherfucker, somebody throw him a wilson. Bitch

[Crushed]

but have you seen his hair it's all spiked up and his shirt is half-tucked what a down-to-earth guy

[Cormacaroni]

From Bioshock PS3 to Uncharted sequel in 2 pages.

EB

DCharlie manipulates us all masterfully once again

"Uncharted was the first time you had that level of interactivity with your environment in a shooter. "

snort

That one had me confused as well.

...?  you could climb all over the environment and even peak over a ledge to shoot people from a hanging position, etc.  but like i said, the game rarely exploits this.  

[youtube=425,350]Qqq4OdDa2SU[/youtube]

If you really think Uncharted provided ANYTHING new in the way of shooter gameplay, you're high as a fucking kite. It didn't even do it well, IMHO. I enjoyed it ok as a platformer but the shooting was dull as dishwater.

[Wolf Gang]

Sony should just let Santa Monica and Naughty Dog work on God of War 3 together.

[MrAngryFace]

Jesus christ you worthless Uncharted fucks. God damnit.

[Brehvolution]

I could understand the gripe if it was all about Genji.

[Draft]

I'm considering buying Uncharted now because it has trophy support. I can't bring myself to play any console game that doesn't regularly reward me by displaying my accomplishments in a tiny window on the screen.

[cool breeze]

Genji 1 was actually great, but Genji 2 was shit.

And fuck you, Capcom.  Instead of down porting games to inferior hardware, why don't you make a real new Onimusha on PS3/360/PC already? Do it!

I'm considering buying Uncharted now because it has trophy support. I can't bring myself to play any console game that doesn't regularly reward me by displaying my accomplishments in a tiny window on the screen.

Uncharted always had achievements in it.  There is an entire system of them in the game that unlocks various 'cheats' like the ability to play the game mirrored, in slow-mo or fast-mo, apply various filters, change around costumes, load out weapons whenever you want, one shot kills, etc... Only difference now is that it works into the official PS3 Trophy system.  When you get a trophy, it actually first shows you the message that you got it in Uncharted, then another one pops up for the PS3 trophy.  They pretty much copy and pasted the entire existing list to support trophies.

[Crushed]

I'm considering buying Uncharted now because it has trophy support. I can't bring myself to play any console game that doesn't regularly reward me by displaying my accomplishments in a tiny window on the screen.

One of the biggest reasons why I'm buying [BioShock PS3] is trophies, seriously. God I love it.*

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*Actual quote! Guess where it's from!

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[JustinP]

From Bioshock PS3 to Uncharted sequel in 2 pages.

EB

DCharlie manipulates us all masterfully once again

"Uncharted was the first time you had that level of interactivity with your environment in a shooter. "

snort

That one had me confused as well.

...?  you could climb all over the environment and even peak over a ledge to shoot people from a hanging position, etc.  but like i said, the game rarely exploits this.  

[youtube=425,350]Qqq4OdDa2SU[/youtube]

If you really think Uncharted provided ANYTHING new in the way of shooter gameplay, you're high as a fucking kite. It didn't even do it well, IMHO. I enjoyed it ok as a platformer but the shooting was dull as dishwater.

you fucking made me waste my time watching that entire video looking for something more than a basic cover system and fucking contextual rappeling.  neither of those are like what i described, you fucking moron.  

[Draft]

I'm not joking, btw. My PS3 needs another game aside from the disappointing MGS4 and it's Uncharted or Siren and Uncharted has trophies so...

[MCD]

get sigma draft or at least grab the demo.

[duckman2000]

you fucking made me waste my time watching that entire video looking for something more than a basic cover system and fucking contextual rappeling.  neither of those are like what i described, you fucking moron.[/img]

It's true that it doesn't match what you were referring to, but the upside down rappelling down walls (and R6V often gave you multiple points of attack, with rappelling being one of the options) was pretty damned cool. And I don't think the cover system in Uncharted is all that far above it, shooting while hanging on to ledges or not.

[Draft]

get sigma draft or at least grab the demo.

I will eventually but that's a $20 buy at best. I've already dropped full price retail on every other NG game, I'm not about to drop $40 to play Black with a prettier first two levels and dual swords.

[cool breeze]

Sigma is $30 now I think.  Greatest hits title and all that.

And Draft, have you considered Warhawk? It is getting trophies soon.

[JustinP]

you fucking made me waste my time watching that entire video looking for something more than a basic cover system and fucking contextual rappeling.  neither of those are like what i described, you fucking moron.[/img]

It's true that it doesn't match what you were referring to, but the upside down rappelling down walls (and R6V often gave you multiple points of attack, with rappelling being one of the options) was pretty damned cool. And I don't think the cover system in Uncharted is all that far above it, shooting while hanging on to ledges or not.

it's cool, yeah.  but it's not a platforming system.  and it's contextual, so you can only do it where there's a rappel node--that basically throws the rappeling out of the argument.  you can't leap from a hanging position--you can't even get into a hanging position.  being able to peak over a ledge and shoot is a result of uncharted integrating a platforming system and a cover system in one game.  

R6v is a FPS with a basic third person cover system and a gimmick, contexctual rappel mode that isn't part of the character's core movement system.  uncharted successfully combines a platformer system with a cover system.  saying R6v lets you interact with the environment on [close to] the same level as uncharted is just about as stupid as someone can get.  

you fucking made me waste my time watching that entire video looking for something more than a basic cover system and fucking contextual rappeling.  neither of those are like what i described, you fucking moron.  (Image removed from quote.)

u mad?

[duckman2000]

Right, but navigating the environments in Uncharted is in its own way also very tightly controlled. There are certainly designated spots where you can pull off these moves, only the game does a reasonably good job in making it feel less restrictive, or artificial, by design. But it's a pretty linear experience, and that includes the combat scenarios and platforming.

[JustinP]

Right, but navigating the environments in Uncharted is in its own way also very tightly controlled. There are certainly designated spots where you can pull off these moves, only the game does a reasonably good job in making it feel less restrictive, or artificial, by design. But it's a pretty linear experience, and that includes the combat scenarios and platforming.

the core mechanics are there in uncharted.  i already said they didn't do a super good job of exploiting them in the game. 

[Oblivion]

I could understand the evangelizing if it was all about Genji.

fix'd nicca

Genji > Uncharted.

[maxy]

Ign is blind as usual...

[Eel O'Brian]

and he killed the entire nation of puerto rico in like 2 days. 

he was all pissed off cause he ate some bad mofongo

[Sho Nuff]

Uncharted has amazing online too

[Pharmacy]

what the shitting balls is going on in here

[Eric P]

let's worship a sarcastic douchebag as an original and likable character

finally, my time to shine

[cool breeze]

Well, Wolf Gang did bring up the graphics argument again, and that is how it snowballed.

It would be like saying that just because Gears still has the best graphics on the Xbox, that it means all games that came after are shit.  Or since Mario Galaxy came out, and game after that on the Wii is shit.  That second comparison is actually kind of true.

[JustinP]

best walls in a game.  no shame in appreciating them.  it's not like the rest of the game was lacking. 

Draft is just jealous because ninja gaiden 2 has some of the worst and most bland art this gen.  it is seriously bad. 

[cool breeze]

Ninja Gaiden 2 is home to the best metal in a game.

[cool breeze]

Afrika sounds awesome, but graphically it isn't amazing or anything.  It sounds like Pokemon Snap with real animals and you can run around in it.  So it is also everything cut from Dead Rising Wii, except now in Afrika.

Or whatever the new name is now.  I don't remember.

[duckman2000]

Aquanauts > Hakuna Matata, by a mile.

[JustinP]

blah blah blah graphics on X360s games arent good blah blah
blah blah blah wall textures best in the biz blah blah ps3 is zomg blah blah blah

PS3 fans are the new casual gamers.

all they care about is tiny graphical lowdulls (i'd say highlights but i think that only counts if you are a PS3 only player)

Afrika is going to be great i hear... don't know anything about the game, but did you see the elephant?
loooooool - absolute catastrophic own goals all round.

the walls were only one thing i mentioned in an aside ; most of my post was about gameplay.  and it's great how you mock people comparing graphics, and then include a jab of your own directed at PS3's graphics.  the best part is you don't even argue your point in any real way--you just throw around baseless fanboy barks and howls. 

a true hypocrite.  a true fanboy.  you'd make GAF proud. 

[Crushed]

how many times are you going to post those stupid custom smilies

did you learn from kittonwy or something

[Smooth Groove]

Posting a bunch of :lols don't make you pwn anyone.   Leave that distinguished mentally-challenged shit at GAF. 

When is GAF going to let DFYB back in?  I'd fucking pay them to do so.