I REALLY hope Gustav doesn't hit New Orleans

[Crushed]

My sister (who's eight months pregnant) just took a teaching job at Tulane, and her husband at LSU. My younger cousin just started at Tulane.

If they have to evacuate, they're going to have to come stay with me and my family, and my sister can act nutty and emotional without the help of hormones. 



Oh yeah, and I guess it'd suck for all those poor people too.

[Bocsius]

In theory, I'd feel bad for the people there. But I've often said those stupid enough to go back after Katrina can rightly float away during the next one. Living under sea level = for idiots and dirty Euros.

[Bildi]

I gather 'Gustav' is some form of destructive weather pattern?

[Bocsius]

A cloud. Some might label it a thunderstorm.

[Tauntaun]

Is this a Red Alert 3 thread? 

[Akala]

In theory, I'd feel bad for the people there. But I've often said those stupid enough to go back after Katrina can rightly float away during the next one. Living under sea level = for idiots and dirty Euros.

New Orleans is awesome. There's really no place like it, and it can be a great place to live. There's a reason people go back. I'd reccomend everyone go there at least once (assuming it's there in a week).

That said, everyone I know there always knew one bad storm/ direct hit could be terrible. People knew this. Despite what a lot of the national coverage said, something like what happened with Katrina wasn't totally unexpected by most people around here. New Orleans was just terribly handled and very unlucky.

In other news, work sucked today. All people were talking about all day was GUSTAV, and it's really distinguished mentally-challenged to worry so much this far out. I forsee tomorrow being annoying. 

[Candyflip]

Stupid name for a hurricane/tropical storm/whatever

[duckman2000]

New Orleans is awesome. There's really no place like it, and it can be a great place to live. There's a reason people go back. I'd reccomend everyone go there at least once (assuming it's there in a week).

So, build a new city like it. Preferably one that is located above sea level.

[BlueTsunami]

Angry Frenchman coming your way New Orleans, sounds like payback x2

[Akala]

New Orleans is awesome. There's really no place like it, and it can be a great place to live. There's a reason people go back. I'd reccomend everyone go there at least once (assuming it's there in a week).

So, build a new city like it. Preferably one that is located above sea level.

An amazing idea, and one that could change the face of the South. We can call our city New New Orleans.

I wonder if, after London burned, Frenchmen said "maybe you should build a new city like it. Preferably one less flammable?"

[T-Short]

Stupid name for a hurricane/tropical storm/whatever

I think you mean AWESOME

[Akala]

Alright. Looks like it's coming straight for me. Not getting worried till Sunday tho. Hurricane party @ my house! 

[Crushed]

yaaaaaaaay, they're probably coming on saturday, and they're bringing their two cats, fatso mcjumpsalot and manic-depressive


i'm sure once they meet my cat, nothing can possibly go wrong

[Akala]

yaaaaaaaay, they're probably coming on saturday, and they're bringing their two cats, fatso mcjumpsalot and manic-depressive


i'm sure once they meet my cat, nothing can possibly go wrong

It could be wonderful!

[Crushed]

When I stayed with them in California over the summer a few years ago, the cats chased each other around at night and jumped off my chest and groin to get onto furniture. 

[Akala]

When I stayed with them in California over the summer a few years ago, the cats chased each other around at night and jumped off my chest and groin to get onto furniture. 

Limited, awful groin action is better than none at all!

[BlueTsunami]

Oh man, the image of a giant fucking bear heading towards New Orleans can't be undone.

[huckleberry]

Oh man, the image of a giant fucking bear heading towards New Orleans can't be undone.

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[Akala]

[CajoleJuice]

Jesus, New Orleans is FUCKED

[TVC15]

I REALLY hope Gustav doesn't hit New Orleans

Michael Moore doesn't agree with you.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080830000004.aspx

“I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said, laughing. “To have it planned at the same time – that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for day one of the Republican Convention, up in the Twin Cities – at the top of the Mississippi River.”

He really has become the left's Ann Coulter.

[Crushed]

Yeah, I find it pretty offensive that these people are like, "Katrina 2.0!? On the eve of the Republican Convention? AWESOME, PEOPLE WILL DIE AND LOSE THEIR HOMES BUT IT'LL MAKE THE RIGHT LOOK BAD BECAUSE IT'LL REMIND PEOPLE OF THE LAST TRAGEDY"

[Akala]

As of right now, I'm projected to be on the west side of it. WEST IS BEST. Supposed to hit near Houma, which is awful for NO, but at least it won't be as bad as last time since evacuations were handled much better/more paranoid this tiime around. If it stays on track (selfish hope), I'll have to stay through the weaker side of a strong CAT-1. Been there a few times. Power will probably be out for a few days, but what can you do?

It kind of sucks in that as I've gotten older, I know people/married into family from Florida to Houston. No matter where it goes it's bad for someone we care about. Hopefully everyone comes out alright.

Except for Michael Moore.

[Phoenix Dark]

I REALLY hope Gustav doesn't hit New Orleans

Michael Moore doesn't agree with you.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080830000004.aspx

“I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said, laughing. “To have it planned at the same time – that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for day one of the Republican Convention, up in the Twin Cities – at the top of the Mississippi River.”

He really has become the left's Ann Coulter.

I remember a black conservative acquaintance of mine telling me that Katrina happened as punishment for the sins of NO. Absolutely disgusting. This is no different.

I used to be a big Moore fan. I have one of his books, saw Fahrenheit 911 in the theater and bought it, etc. But after a little homework I realized he's a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Now he doesn't even hide it, hence this or him suggesting Obama pick Caroline Kennedy as the vp

[laesperanzapaz]

cat 4

get ready

[Fragamemnon]

we really should be allowed to airdrop michael moore from a helicopter to plug a hole in a NO levee if need be.

I've been doing some light research on the levee system and comparing it with the storm surge patterns predicted and teh forecast path. The city is at this point probably on a knife's edge between catastrophe and serious damage.

[BlueTsunami]

Storm of the Century, CNN hypin' it up. Its fucking HUGE

[Madrun Badrun]

cat 4

get ready

Is it expected to grow more?

[Candyflip]

I feel bad that I get so excited over these imminent disasters.



Funny that the day it's projected to hit New Orleans is almost exactly 3 years after Katrina faded away.

[Joe Molotov]

cat 4

get ready

Is it expected to grow more?

Now that's it passed over Cuba, it should pick up some steam in the gulf and get back up to Cat 5, although they're currently saying that it'll fall back to Cat 4 before it makes landfall.

[Fragamemnon]

I feel bad that I get so excited over these imminent disasters.

I worked for years in college in the met department (actually the super fancy tropical and atmoshpheric prediction center) at FSU. We always popped a collective boner over huge hurricanes, regardless of whether they were potentially headed to major urban coastal areas or not.

BTW, this storm looks like the stuff straight out of nightmares as someone who dearly loves the city of New Orleans (born there, visited there all the time as a kid/teen/college student before I moved to NC). I even did a couple of weeks of inner city volunteer work there in 1992, I remember how poor (and how black, lol wolf blitzer) the people were in parts of the town and later when Katrina hit I couldn't get those neighboorhoods out of my mind (since they all flooded completely over).

[drozmight]

Oh shit.

I'm glad hurricanes or typhoons never hit here.

[Madrun Badrun]

The mayor of New Orleans has issued a mandatory evacuation order for the entire city

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7590332.stm

[CajoleJuice]

welp, nice knowing New Orleans

wish I could've visited

[BlueTsunami]

I was actually in Melbourne, FL when Fay hit. Hurricanes aren't cool like Thunderstorms or Tornadoes in the sense of a danger you can see. You just get hit with a fuckload of rain and higher winds. Though, I'm sure the beach and waves must have been huge. Gustav looks to be on multiple higher levels.

[Fragamemnon]

welp, nice knowing New Orleans

wish I could've visited

it's a unique, amazing city. Hopefully it'll pull through this one in one piece.

Edit: Fay was a weak storm with no real surge-that is where the real scary is in a hurricane. Storm surges are the #1 cause of fatalities in hurricanes because they bring a wall of water that literally rises so fast people can't escape it (since there is no way to run from it).

[Mandark]

That Michael Moore quote is completely awful.  You're a long way from Roger And Me, Mike.

I've been doing some light research on the levee system and comparing it with the storm surge patterns predicted and teh forecast path. The city is at this point probably on a knife's edge between catastrophe and serious damage.

The whole New Orleans situation is depressing on several levels.  Long term what's the best realistic scenario for the city?

[Fragamemnon]

The whole New Orleans situation is depressing on several levels.  Long term what's the best realistic scenario for the city?

Honestly? The best long term realistic scenario is that they get really lucky for a long period of time. With global warming and rising sea surface temps in the Gulf of Mexico, eventually no amount of civil engineering miracles is going to prevent a megastorm from destroying the city.

[Vyer]

I REALLY hope Gustav doesn't hit New Orleans

Michael Moore doesn't agree with you.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080830000004.aspx

“I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said, laughing. “To have it planned at the same time – that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for day one of the Republican Convention, up in the Twin Cities – at the top of the Mississippi River.”

He really has become the left's Ann Coulter.

Oh Moore, way to be stupid...

[CajoleJuice]

The whole New Orleans situation is depressing on several levels.  Long term what's the best realistic scenario for the city?

Honestly? The best long term realistic scenario is that they get really lucky for a long period of time. With global warming and rising sea surface temps in the Gulf of Mexico, eventually no amount of civil engineering miracles is going to prevent a megastorm from destroying the city.

Basically. It's only a matter of time before we need to totally abandon the city.

[Mandark]

The whole New Orleans situation is depressing on several levels.  Long term what's the best realistic scenario for the city?

Honestly? The best long term realistic scenario is that they get really lucky for a long period of time. With global warming and rising sea surface temps in the Gulf of Mexico, eventually no amount of civil engineering miracles is going to prevent a megastorm from destroying the city.

Bleeeeech.

I'm pretty sure I've heard that New Orleans was one of the cities with the most black-owned property.  That's a ton of accumulated wealth that's just being wiped out.

[Fragamemnon]

The whole New Orleans situation is depressing on several levels.  Long term what's the best realistic scenario for the city?

Honestly? The best long term realistic scenario is that they get really lucky for a long period of time. With global warming and rising sea surface temps in the Gulf of Mexico, eventually no amount of civil engineering miracles is going to prevent a megastorm from destroying the city.

Bleeeeech.

I'm pretty sure I've heard that New Orleans was one of the cities with the most black-owned property.  That's a ton of accumulated wealth that's just being wiped out.

It most definitely was-but that trend was changing in the 80s and 90s as deindustrialization of the area was depopulating/squeezing out the mostly black working class anyway, and the good services jobs were being taken by white people living in Kenner and the "nicer" neighborhoods.

[MrAngryFace]

I agree with Lewis Black, in that storms of this nature should have more profanity in their names.

[Candyflip]

Some people are still refusing to leave: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/08/30/new.orleans/index.html

A neighbor, Victoria, says she has two Rottweilers who she's not willing to leave behind.

[CajoleJuice]

LEAVE NO DOG BEHIND

[AdmiralViscen]

That Michael Moore quote is completely awful.  You're a long way from Roger And Me, Mike.

He said it on Olbermann's show too, and Keith didn't say shit in response.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

New Orleans will never go away because a major source of natural gas and oil is brought in through New Orleans.  Nobody is going to spend huge amounts of money laying down new pipeline unless they are subsidized by the government.

If you're not in those industries, why you live in NO is beyond me.

[laesperanzapaz]

btw, you guys do realize that if somehow mccain and co. come off as 'brave' or 'tried their darnest to help NO' or something like that, this could be a September Surprise that wins them the white house?

LOL

imagine the positive reaction to a RNC after GUstav

[Phoenix Dark]

Time for Obama/ McCain to shine!

It would be cool if they both came together and started raising money for the effort.

[Beardo]

Im still waiting for Nagin's chocolate paradise.

[laesperanzapaz]

btw, you guys do realize that if somehow mccain and co. come off as 'brave' or 'tried their darnest to help NO' or something like that, this could be a September Surprise that wins them the white house?

LOL

imagine the positive reaction to a RNC after GUstav

Anything is possible, but just as I don't like to talk about how this could be good for Dems, I don't like to talk about how it could be good for repubs.  Hopefully this goes off as a totally non-partisan effort with as many heroes as possible.

you dont really believe that of course

[pilonv1]

raining now, a few hours to go

[Akala]

So did it hit the shore yet? I await horror storries.

Houma getting hit pretty hard, and haven't seen much out of NO yet. I'm getting tropical bands right now, but it shouldn't be too bad for a few more hours. TV (live local feed @ katc.com) saying the weakened eye will move right over my area, but should be down to about 70-80 mph winds by then. Expect the news to really start coming out of NO in a few hours.

Happy Labor Day Everyone! 

[Joe Molotov]

Do not want!

[Brehvolution]

All part of Mother Nature's Gulf Coast expansion project.

[Akala]

I think the worst has passed, and I still have power! 

I really hope this holds. So far everyone I talked to is OK, although so far, out of everyone I've talked to, I'm the only one with power. May be a full house tomorrow.

Took a walk a while back to check out the damage, and saw this~