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My first real HD console experience...
« on: September 02, 2008, 04:12:19 AM »
I haven’t been really playing a next gen system so far, since my only console up to now is a Wii, and all of my friends bought the Wii as well (guys in their 30ies with wife and children). Off course I tried out the 360 and PS3 in a department store, but that doesn’t really count.

Last Friday, I was able to have an extended session with a PS3 at a friends place, and it was interesting to play some of those games I have read about a lot in places like this or GAF.

So, now some unconnected thoughts from me about some games…

•   Skate: I don’t understand what the graphical problems of the PS3 version are, that have been talked about in a lot of places. I played the game extensively for around an hour, and didn’t notice any frame rate problems. When I read that stuff back then, I thought If I ever buy a PS3, I would have to wait for Skate 2 to be really playable, but that’s complete nonsense. The game works perfectly as it is, and everybody else complaining is probably a Xbox fanboy.
•   MGS4: Wow. Just Wow. I have to admit, I am not all to familiar with the MGS series, and didn’t expect something like this. Actually I always wondered what all the fuss I about. Graphics,  and the all around presentation are simply awesome. I can really see myself playing this game in the future.
•   Virtua Fighter: It’s amazing how well this game feels. I haven’t been playing a Virtua Fighter since No 1 came out on PC (had textures, and was a little bit faster than the arcade version). I was always very good with 2D Fighters, but couldn’t get into 3D ones (Tekken for instance) usually, but VF5 just feels and controls right. Coupled with some amazing Graphics, I wonder why this game sold as bad as it did.
•   Gran Tourismo 5p: Didn’t look as good as in the preview videos I have seen.
•   Assassins Creed: I really looked forward playing this, but it looked a lot worse than I have imagined, especially after playing MGS4 this is not all too spectacular. And this Helix Genetics blab la Nonsense turned me off as well. Might rent it in future, but surely no instant buy for me when I get my HD system.


After playing PS3 I feel really odd when I switch on my Wii at home, so I might probably get some HD goodness (whether Xbox or PS3 I have still to decide) in the next few weeks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 04:14:28 AM »
assassins creed runs terrible on ps3, sadly, but its awesome if you stick through it or get it on 360/pc
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 04:20:07 AM »
You didn't think Assassin's Creed looked awesome? :'(

I haven't played it on PS3 but I thought it wasn't too far behind the 360 after the patches were done.

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 04:24:50 AM »
You have a Wii and never played MGS? Buy Twin Snakes for Gamecube
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 04:41:46 AM »
Then brace yourself for hilarity.

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 04:49:40 AM »
there's some slight hiccups in ps3 skate on occasion (only became a real problem for one required trick), but yeah, for the most part completely playable.  skate 2 ps3 should be perfectly fine. 

yeah, MGS4 is incredible, despite what some fuckwads on here will try to argue.  not a perfect game, but it does what it does quite well.

i didn't like assassin's creed at all.  boring as fuck gameplay and yeah, i didn't dig the visuals either - doesn't matter what version. 

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 04:53:27 AM »
btw, i just wondered, is it important to know the story of the former MGS'es as well, or will i be able to understand the storyline even if i just start with MGS 4?
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 04:58:20 AM »
btw, i just wondered, is it important to know the story of the former MGS'es as well, or will i be able to understand the storyline even if i just start with MGS 4?
you'll be able to enjoy it if you have a general idea of the past stories

quick recap: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/225199.html

i think there may be better summaries elsewhere

PSN has a free MG database with tons of facts if you want to shift through it.  even blocks mgs4 spoilers until you've progressed in mgs4. 

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 04:59:19 AM »
Prepare yourself for -massive disappointment- after act 1 and 2 though. It's a sharp drop off in quality.
it just goes in a slightly different direction  ::)

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 05:09:49 AM »
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it just goes in a slightly different direction 


... from "awesome" to "shitty"

i wish there was more gameplay like the first couple chapters, too, but the game definitely didn't approach being "shitty" -- it mixed it up and did it all well.  i wouldn't wish for any of it to be taken out (maybe move that post-credits movie to a seperate 'epilogue' thing) -- if i had my way, there'd simply be more like the first couple chapters peppered into the later parts of the game. 

the game is solid the whole way through though. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2008, 05:20:10 AM »
btw, i just wondered, is it important to know the story of the former MGS'es as well, or will i be able to understand the storyline even if i just start with MGS 4?

No, since MGS4 is just fanfiction wankfest.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
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btw, i just wondered, is it important to know the story of the former MGS'es as well, or will i be able to understand the storyline even if i just start with MGS 4?

"understand" the storyline is somewhat of a misnomer, but yeah - you can get through, you just won't get some of the references.

Prepare yourself for -massive disappointment- after act 1 and 2 though. It's a sharp drop off in quality.

Actually, no.

Act III is probably the worst part of the game, but the ending with the chase is reminiscent of MGS3's ending motorcycle chase. Then the shit hits the fan in the storyline.

Act IV is pure fan service, except that it's a legitimately good part of the game with good fan service too. And Act V has the best boss battle in the game.

Near flawless game.

I'm not denying that MGS4 has a lot of fan service in it. So?
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2008, 04:28:42 PM »
Also play Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and Ratchet.

They look amazing on a HD set.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2008, 07:15:38 PM »
all the bosses were pretty mediocre, but at least the first boss fight had some clever moments.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2008, 07:17:28 PM »
Prepare yourself for -massive disappointment- after act 1 and 2 though. It's a sharp drop off in quality.
it just goes in a slightly different direction  ::)

nanomachines nanomachines blah blah blah blah blah

Horrible game. MGS 1-3>>>>>>>>>xinfinity>>>>MGS4

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2008, 07:21:55 PM »
Assassin's Creed is a piece of shit "game," a bit of style built on a rotten foundation of every Ubi legacy design issue. Its success is the shame of the generation.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2008, 07:26:18 PM »
Ass Creed's main problems were the overly sensitive guards and the number of assassinations. Guards were just plain distinguished mentally-challenged, and fewer assassinations woud've probably meant more focused/innovative investigations.

The actual assassinations, though, were perfect. The rush of killing somebody and running away ASAP with awesome controls and animation...so amazing. The main story along with the Kristen Bell subplot was pretty cool, too.

6/10 game.

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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2008, 07:51:32 PM »
Oh, we're talking about the GOTY2007 now?  Sweet.

:heartbeat Assassin's Creed :heartbeat

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2008, 07:58:17 PM »
The actual assassinations, though, were perfect. The rush of killing somebody and running away ASAP with awesome controls and animation...so amazing. The main story along with the Kristen Bell subplot was pretty cool, too.

6/10 game.

Agreed, the assasinations were cool as hell but everything else was pure shit. Riding 20mins to get to an assasination? gay
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2008, 08:10:41 PM »
mmmm, assassin's creed was one of the best games of last year, AND it was the best looking game of last year on consoles -- well, the superior 360 version was
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2008, 09:23:43 PM »
mmmm, assassin's creed was one of the best games of last year, AND it was the best looking game of last year on consoles -- well, the superior 360 version was
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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2008, 09:26:29 PM »
mmmm, assassin's creed was one of the best games of last year, AND it was the best looking game of last year on consoles -- well, the superior 360 version was
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Well it's certainly a matter of opinion on the "one of the best games of last year".

Personally i loved it, but many people didn't.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2008, 09:27:32 PM »
Where's Mupepe when you need him?  We need to bolster the AC-loving ranks in this thread to compete with you guys who have no taste in games.

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2008, 11:39:56 PM »
someone want to elaborate on the ps3 version's shittyness?  the reviews i've looked at don't mention comparisons.
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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2008, 11:42:03 PM »
Assassin's Creed was fucking awesome. One of the few games I've actually finished in the past few years.
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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2008, 11:44:37 PM »
AC was so simple and boring. 

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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2008, 11:50:08 PM »
Assassin's Creed has awesome core mechanics with lame situations to use them in.  I still boot it up every once in a while to fuck around in a town, but the actual 'game' aspects they have you do are incredibly boring.  They should get the guys behind Mercs 2 to work on Ass Creed 2.  Basically tell you who the kill, or what to do, and then let you do it how you want to do it.

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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2008, 11:54:00 PM »
what was awesome about the core mechanics?  i felt it was all just way too simple - everything from combat to climbing. 

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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2008, 11:55:32 PM »
I don't care if it was simple, because it was still fun to climb buildings and to toss people off rooftops.  It is kind of like the Pure demo; really simple controls, but it is a lot of fun to do.

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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2008, 12:24:29 AM »
What swaggaz said.
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2008, 12:26:51 AM »
Assassins Creed was garbage but hey Jade Raymonds is hot

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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2008, 01:03:45 AM »
i'm interested in trying the Pure demo, but i hope there's some depth to it and it's not like mario kart wii stunts -- that killed any excitement i had for mario kart wii right then and there.  

the concepts in assassin's creed were great.  the execution was crap.  

after playing the assassin quest line in oblivion, i was salvating for a game to take that premise and make an entire game based on that.  assassin's creed was one of the games to potentially fill that.

but AC was a total dissapointment for me.  climbing was uninvolved: it looked neat, but it wasn't fun - you just point where to go.  normal combat was pathetic and all about countering with a single button.  assassinations were single button presses - flashy with no substance.  when i see the trolls about how MGS4 is more an 'interactive movie' than a game, Assassin's Creed comes to mind -- as far as gameplay goes, AC is all about making complex movement and combat maneuvers into the most simplistic button commands.  sometimes that's a nice design philosophy, but in AC's case, it just felt like the game was always on auto-pilot.  the novelties of the stylish animation and assassinations wore off quickly.  

and the AI was flat out distinguished mentally-challenged - you could kill someone 3 ft away and if you went into the stealth stance fast enough, they wouldn't even react to it.  i walked up to a group of soldiers listening to a speech by their commander or whatever.  i killed the guy giving the speech and the audience just stood there like nothing happened.  there was a higher ranked soldier walking around the group inspecting them.  i killed him, and he was close enough where they reacted.  and by reacted, i mean they walked up and stared at it while they said "who did this?!" as i stood a couple feet away.  then they walked off.  that is broken AI.  i had pics of this happening but can't find them now :(

i need to play the thief games -- i hear they're great. 
« Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 01:06:20 AM by JustinP »

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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2008, 01:46:40 AM »
I've only played Thief 3, but it was fantastic.  After all these years I still haven't finished it because I want to "save it".  I play a little every few months like I'm trying to savour a chocolate bar or something.

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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2008, 01:03:35 PM »
If you didn't play Assassins Creed without the HUD you're a fuckhead and a aint' know shit about games.

AC was simple yet you people will talk about Uncharted, wtf. Cover cover cover cover. lol

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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2008, 01:21:27 PM »
If you didn't play Assassins Creed without the HUD you're a fuckhead and a aint' know shit about games.

AC was simple yet you people will talk about Uncharted, wtf. Cover cover cover cover. lol
Err, what does Uncharted have to do with anything?  It's a completely different type of game.  Why would it be hard to believe that people who enjoy one of the games wouldn't much care for the other?

I enjoyed both, though.  I thought Assassin's Creed was neither as bad as the majority make it out to be nor as good as its biggest fans claim it to be.  Most of its ideas do not feel completely thought out.  It feels as if they focused on building a functioning world first before even thinking about what they can do with it.  There are some moments where you can really feel what they were trying to do, however.  The information gathering tasks, for instance, actually reward the player with information that you can choose to use.  The game initially gives the impression that you're only completing these tasks in order to "unlock" the main objective, but in reality, each piece of information can be used and viewed by the player.  You make your own plan rather than relying on the game to tell you exactly what must be done.  I really appreciated this type of design.

Unfortunately, there was a lot of tedium involved and the game never really felt as if it made the most of its fantastic world.

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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2008, 01:27:11 PM »
So did JustinP switch gears from telling dcharlie it's not fair to call MGS4 less than excellent, to telling everyone not to call AssCreed anything close to excellent?

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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2008, 01:35:44 PM »
Assassin's Creed plays better with analog
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2008, 03:31:04 PM »
If you didn't play Assassins Creed without the HUD you're a fuckhead and a aint' know shit about games.

AC was simple yet you people will talk about Uncharted, wtf. Cover cover cover cover. lol
Err, what does Uncharted have to do with anything?  It's a completely different type of game.  Why would it be hard to believe that people who enjoy one of the games wouldn't much care for the other?


Dude you might love Uncharted and think AC is the biggest pile of shit, i wasn't saying otherwise. I was talking about the distinguished mentally-challenged ass critic points used against AC.

Simple? AC is simple? AC is bad because it's simple. And i used the Uncharted as an example, that game is simpleton town.

And i'm telling you dude, i went back and played AC again, with no HUD. My gawd, it was like the game had gotten a shot of awesomeness inserted straight in the heart.
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« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2008, 04:19:26 PM »
•   Skate: I don’t understand what the graphical problems of the PS3 version are, that have been talked about in a lot of places. I played the game extensively for around an hour, and didn’t notice any frame rate problems. When I read that stuff back then, I thought If I ever buy a PS3, I would have to wait for Skate 2 to be really playable, but that’s complete nonsense. The game works perfectly as it is, and everybody else complaining is probably a Xbox fanboy.

Coming off of like 60 hours w/ the 360 version, then playing the PS3 demo @ Circuit City - you can see a huge difference.

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« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2008, 04:43:55 PM »
If you didn't play Assassins Creed without the HUD you're a fuckhead and a aint' know shit about games.

AC was simple yet you people will talk about Uncharted, wtf. Cover cover cover cover. lol

ok let's make the Assassin's Creed<>Uncharted gameplay comparison then

platforming:

Assassin's Creed has you hold down freerun (or whatever) button and point where you want to go. Uncharted has you point in the direction you want to leap/jump and press a button to execute.  AC does all the jumping for you, where as Uncharted gives you that control.  It's the difference between auto-pilot (AC) and manual (Uncharted) platforming.  AC's platforming is undeniably simple. 

combat:

the combat is of course that of different games entirely, but you can still draw basic comparisons. 

Assassin's Creed has a couple flavors of combat.  assassinations and general field combat.  assassinations are simple: you enter your stance and press the assassinate button -- again, it's basically on auto-pilot.  normal field combat isn't much more complex.  once you're in engagement, you just block until they attack, which is when you'll press a button to counter -- again, very basic.  for the most part, they just stand around taking turns attacking -- you don't really need to worry about anything... you just wait for one to attack so you can counter. 

Uncharted, by its nature, gives you more options in terms of weapons etc.  different weapons work better in different situations -- even the different postures (firing at the hip vs aiming at the shoulder) offer advantages and disadvantages both in relation to specific weapons and certain situations.  there are more ways in which you can use your weapons in uncharted -- at the hip gives you better mobility and sometimes more effecient use of certain weapons, aiming gives you that precise control to land headshots and conserve ammo etc.  you can even shoot while hanging from ledges etc (an example equevalent in AC would be letting you hang down and assassinate someone from the ceiling, but afaik, AC doesn't provide that).  you have grenades and fixed turrets to mix combat up - you also have slight variety in enemies in uncharted - pirates, armored mercenaries, and the monster things.  i got bored of AC and never finished it, but afaik, it's all civilians/victims or guards.  and then you add uncharted's melee system in, which is actually a fairly robust (in the context of it's genre) combo system.  certain combos are great for killing someone quick (the good ol' one-two punch to bullet in the face) while other combos give you double ammo drops. 

AC's combat is way simpler than uncharted. 

and AI is no contest.  AC's AI is dumb, predictable, and outright exploitable -- the escape mechanic could have been cool, except the AI was too dumb and exploitable that it basically made it super mundane.  Uncharted's AI is aggressive and employs a variety of more advanced maneuvers. 

i tried AC wit/without the HUD and it didn't click with me either way.  so yeah, AC is quite simple compared to uncharted. 

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« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2008, 04:47:19 PM »
what about the analog controls?
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« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2008, 04:52:05 PM »
what about the analog controls?
the fact that you constantly bring up that argument in these contexts just shows how little you understood about said argument. 

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« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2008, 05:01:08 PM »
Says you, Mr. Not Elite Commando
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« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2008, 05:01:33 PM »
Uncharted's platforming is made for 8 year olds that have Lego Star Wars as their main game, not to mention it's a one way street.

And then i read something about Uncharted fighting system being complex, and i just got lost in the pure retardness of the post son. Sorry.

AC is a breakthrough game, Uncharted is a me too game. That's why AC sold over 5 million copies and Uncharted received a big "Who the fuck cares".

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« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2008, 05:04:04 PM »
Yeah AC sold 5 million copies because it's a breakout game  :lol

AC sold 5 million copies because it had the best marketing campaign EVER. I can't think of any other game that was pushed like that in every conceivable way-- from the nerdcore to the mainstream.


I've never seen a game get that many returns and drop in price that quickly as I did with AC. I can buy it from Gamefly now for 11 dollars.
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« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2008, 05:07:06 PM »
Right, now it's the marketing campaign.  ::)


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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2008, 05:19:46 PM »
Uncharted's platforming is made for 8 year olds that have Lego Star Wars as their main game, not to mention it's a one way street.
i wouldn't disagree with that.  but that puts AC's platforming on a 2 year old level.  you seem to have forgotten that i was only comparing uncharted to AC.  

And then i read something about Uncharted fighting system being complex, and i just got lost in the pure retardness of the post son. Sorry.
i never said uncharted's fighting system was generally complex.  again, you seem to have missed the whole "in the context of the genre" -- meaning, the melee system is more complex than...  gears.  

AC is a breakthrough game, Uncharted is a me too game. That's why AC sold over 5 million copies and Uncharted received a big "Who the fuck cares".
i definitely disagree there.  AC had the potential to be breakthrough, but it ended up being very mundane.  

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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2008, 06:02:55 PM »
•   Skate: I don’t understand what the graphical problems of the PS3 version are, that have been talked about in a lot of places. I played the game extensively for around an hour, and didn’t notice any frame rate problems. When I read that stuff back then, I thought If I ever buy a PS3, I would have to wait for Skate 2 to be really playable, but that’s complete nonsense. The game works perfectly as it is, and everybody else complaining is probably a Xbox fanboy.

Coming off of like 60 hours w/ the 360 version, then playing the PS3 demo @ Circuit City - you can see a huge difference.

I get your point, but the PS3 version is nowhere as "unplayable" as some people claimed it to be. Actually, not knowing the 360 version of said game i couldn't guess what exactly would be wrong about the PS3 version. Mind that I don't say here that the 360 version might not be better/prettier/whatever.

I think it's just stupid to let people think the PS3s version of Skate is unplayable, which it definitely isn't by any margin...
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2008, 06:06:35 PM »
Right, now it's the marketing campaign.  ::)



yeah, right, it was the superb design and media raving

Assassin's Creed is half-designed.

i s'pose in that regard it's not all that different from mass effect.
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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2008, 06:09:39 PM »
from what i played of mass effect, it's way above assassin's creed. 

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« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2008, 06:10:50 PM »
from what i played of mass effect, it's way above assassin's creed. 

absolutely agreed.

I think almost every sales success is the product of marketing. I don't think this is a slight against the game-- good and bad games alike both get marketed.

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« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2008, 06:14:30 PM »
i wonder what went wrong with PS3's marketing? :(

A lot. But obviously marketing a product with two competitors is different from one with literally hundreds of competitors, so I'm not too much into this comparison. :)
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« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2008, 06:15:40 PM »
i wonder what went wrong with PS3's marketing? :(

this is so random :lol

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Re: My first real HD console experience...
« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2008, 07:03:55 PM »
No matter how good the marketing is the product has to be appealing and people have to want it.

People wanted AC.

People didn't want the PS3.


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« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2008, 07:06:49 PM »
Why did people want AC?
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« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2008, 07:08:38 PM »
Why did people want AC?

Because first contact, the visual design and graphics were amazing, and then because the game kicked ass.

People knew this was no Heavenly Sword.

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« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2008, 07:10:47 PM »
Marketing.
noooo it was the...proliferation of its...graphics to the 4.9 million people that don't read message boards
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« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2008, 07:20:12 PM »
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Why did people want AC?

people want to live out thier dirty inner middle eastern fetish?

I usually just get some hummus, it's sooo cheap and soooo much better than AssCrud.

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maybe people just liked the fact it was different?
Game did pretty well for a honky game in Japan with very little marketting, not sure how that one is explained :O



The game's Japanese sales indicate to me that there is still a hardcore gaming segment in Japan that follows the news as ardently and feverishly as message board crawlers do in America. 40,000 on the 360? When you're looking at the 360 demographic in Japan anyway, it's not too much of a stretch.
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Re: My first real HD console experience...
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2008, 07:31:28 PM »
You guys can complain about GOTY2007 Assassin's Creed all you like but the fact is it was awesome, sold awesome, and will therefore get a sequel.

Which I can't wait for. :heart

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« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2008, 07:32:46 PM »
You guys can complain about GOTY2007 Assassin's Creed all you like but the fact is it was awesome, sold awesome, and will therefore get a sequel.

Which I can't wait for. :heart
maybe the sequel won't suck.  looking forward to seeing improvements.