Damn, this sucks :( My g/f wants me to become a Born Again...

[tiesto]

So I've been with my girlfriend 4 months, everything seems to have been going pretty well... sweet little Italian girl, likes to cook and has made me meals, treated me really kindly, fun to hang out with, morally upstanding (I love the girls next door).

Then a few weeks ago, on the train to the city, she spits out, almost at random. "I can't marry a non-Christian". Then what ensues for the next few weeks is a long discussion where she is attempting to 'convert' me to her form of Christianity... aka she's a born-again. I am a typical lapsed Catholic that doesn't really believe in much, and what she wants from me is to raise kids Christian, send them to Jesus Camp, all that jazz.

I have to get out of this. How should I break off with her? Or get her to see my way? I've told her I don't see myself ever opening up to Christianity, but she's throwing books on me to read, she had me meet with her pastor (interesting guy but I am still not convinced), she keeps saying I should "give it time". But the thing is, she's 29, I'm 26, she is looking to get married asap and I'm her first "serious" relationship. I know I can't give it time, I'm already set in my beliefs and I can't see myself raising a family like that. Just going to her family's house for a Labor Day BBQ, the difference between me and my ideals was so great - they are all praising Palin for being pro-life and not aborting her Downs baby, I'm a probama whose religious leanings is "I believe in God, that's about it, being a good and genuine person is enough".

[duckman2000]

Tell her that you don't hang with religious fascists, werewolf hunters and other such crazies.

[Greatness Gone]

I had a psycho boyfriend that tried to push his ways of living onto me. I dumped that bitch INCREDIBLY FAST.

[muckhole]

There's no winning here. You'll likely just have to end it. It's obviously a big enough issue to her that she was willing to gamble the relationship on it, so unless you have a dramatic shift in your views, I'd say run to the hills.

[Tundra]

t she's throwing books on me to read, she had me meet with her pastor (interesting guy but I am still not convinced), she keeps saying I should "give it time".

Scary shit, man... I would run away immediately, and from the tone of your text, i would say you feel similar...

This comes from another lapsed catholic...

[Human Snorenado]

You do her a disservice if you're not honest to her.  Let her know that her moonbat ideas are what turned you off, and that they'll continue to do that to other reasonable men.

[GilloD]

There's no winning here. You'll likely just have to end it. It's obviously a big enough issue to her that she was williing to gamble the relationship on it, so unless you have a dramatic shift in your views, I'd say run to the hills.

Truth. My wife is very religious and the daughter of a Minister. I couldn't care less about Church. But she has her beliefs and I have mine and maybe 50% of the time I go to church with her and volunteer with her. It's important to be a part of that part of her life, but if she stepped up and said "You MUST BE MY RELIGION", I don't think I could do that. Personal expression of religious belief is important and cannot be dictated.

Sorry, bud, but I think this one's cooked.

[tiesto]

There's no winning here. You'll likely just have to end it. It's obviously a big enough issue to her that she was williing to gamble the relationship on it, so unless you have a dramatic shift in your views, I'd say run to the hills.

Truth. My wife is very religious and the daughter of a Minister. I couldn't care less about Church. But she has her beliefs and I have mine and maybe 50% of the time I go to church with her and volunteer with her. It's important to be a part of that part of her life, but if she stepped up and said "You MUST BE MY RELIGION", I don't think I could do that. Personal expression of religious belief is important and cannot be dictated.

Sorry, bud, but I think this one's cooked.

Yeah, I don't think I'd have a problem with going to church every once in a while (she plays violin in church) or volunteering with her. I don't think she understands how important my beliefs are to me, I didn't grow up in that kind of family.

Has the issue of how to raise your kids come up, Gillo?

[Van Cruncheon]

put it in her pooper

[Grecco]

Theres NeoCon Evangelicals in Italy now? You know the Center of the Catholic religion?

[Fragamemnon]

I would at least take a hard look at her family's and church's beliefs, and see just how far down the "rabbit hole" of evangelical Christianity her and her family go. Then evaluate whether or not you are comfortable with it, and tell her directly "hey, this is what I am comfortable with, this is what I am not comfortable with". Most importantly, you MUST be strong in your own person and be firm in knowning what you believe in-this is, ultimately, her litmus test and she should evaluate the situation as truthfully as possible. If she doesn't think you are going to be "Christian" enough, then you can at least part ways in good faith.

Actually I wouldn't do any of that. I'd call her a fundie wretch and tell her to get a burlap sack and ask for Jesus' redemption in the middle of the freeway. But if I was a decent person I'd do what I wrote in the first paragraph of this post.

Also, who the fuck talks about having kids and sending them to Jesus Camp four months into a relationship. warning bellz.

[tiesto]

Theres NeoCon Evangelicals in Italy now? You know the Center of the Catholic religion?

Italian-American, her family was Catholic originally but then became Born Agains.

[lordmaji]

You both have to respect each others beliefs. She has to understand she can't force you to convert and respect that. I assume you respect her and her beliefs. She should be willing to do the same.

FA pretty much nailed it though.

[Grecco]

Theres NeoCon Evangelicals in Italy now? You know the Center of the Catholic religion?

Italian-American, her family was Catholic originally but then became Born Agains.

As someone who is also lapsed catholic and spent 5 years in an evangelical high school it freaking sucks.

Yeah. unless your 100 percent sure you want to marry her id end it now. Its for the best.

You both have to respect each others beliefs. She has to understand she can't force you to convert and respect that. I assume you respect her and her beliefs. She should be willing to do the same.

Go date a neocon evangelical they dont really respect your beliefs.

[lordmaji]

If you do plan on ending it, you could tell her you have converted... You're a Puritan now and find her to be a witch and tell her Gods judgment will be delivered to her in flames. Then chant. BURN THE WITCH! BURN HER!!!!!

Just for fun.

[GilloD]

There's no winning here. You'll likely just have to end it. It's obviously a big enough issue to her that she was williing to gamble the relationship on it, so unless you have a dramatic shift in your views, I'd say run to the hills.

Truth. My wife is very religious and the daughter of a Minister. I couldn't care less about Church. But she has her beliefs and I have mine and maybe 50% of the time I go to church with her and volunteer with her. It's important to be a part of that part of her life, but if she stepped up and said "You MUST BE MY RELIGION", I don't think I could do that. Personal expression of religious belief is important and cannot be dictated.

Sorry, bud, but I think this one's cooked.

Yeah, I don't think I'd have a problem with going to church every once in a while (she plays violin in church) or volunteering with her. I don't think she understands how important my beliefs are to me, I didn't grow up in that kind of family.

Has the issue of how to raise your kids come up, Gillo?

Tiesto- Not yet. I suspect they'll be raised in the church. I honestly don't have a problem with that. My wife is very progressive and respects questioning. We agree that the Bible is more the "wisdom" of God than the "word" of God and should be treated as such.

Point being: I wouldn't have a problem with their going to church and being religious provided they're allowed the freedoms to question and explore if they choose. I suspect my wife feels very much the same.

[DJ_Tet]

[Beardo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2684415/Man-holds-vigil-for-girlfriend-turned-nun.html


Man holds vigil for girlfriend-turned-nun

An Italian man whose girlfriend left him to become a nun is holding a vigil outside the convent where she is staying in a bid to get her to reconsider.

  Is that you?

[TVC15]

Tell her that after investigating this, you've decided to re-embrace Catholicism.  Fundie types hate Catholics.

[Eric P]

you have the worst luck with women it seems

[demi]

BAIL

[DJ_Tet]

born....bourne....

[hyp]

BAIL OUT

[John Dunbar]

Is she one of those hypocritical jesus freaks that talk a lot of shit but still do things that go against the "good book" when it pleases them, e.g. have premarital sex?

[T234]

born....bourne....



HORRIBLE IMAGE

FUCK YOU DOOKIE THAT WAS ON 42 INCH DISPLAY

[DJ_Tet]

Perhaps you'll like these images better 

[tiesto]

you have the worst luck with women it seems

  it's really true!

And no, no premarital sex so far. That should be reason enough to bail out methinks.

[Human Snorenado]

you have the worst luck with women it seems

  it's really true!

And no, no premarital sex so far. That should be reason enough to bail out methinks.

After four fuckin' months?  I should say so.

[CajoleJuice]

poor tiesto

[Fragamemnon]

I would ask for pics in this thread, but 1992 east regional finals pics already gave me a raging hardon. 

I think you and your girlfriend should have a good talk about values and find out what you share and where you disagree. It'll either go well or it won't, but it's gotta happen at some point.

[tiesto]

I would ask for pics in this thread, but 1992 east regional finals pics already gave me a raging hardon. 

I think you and your girlfriend should have a good talk about values and find out what you share and where you disagree. It'll either go well or it won't, but it's gotta happen at some point.

Well, we have had multiple talks over the past few weeks and she knows where I stand on things. And I know where she stands. Unfortunately, she is all-or-nothing about this. And knowing what little I do about Born Agains, is they stop at nothing to convert you... they try and wear down on you. Hence, why she keeps on talking about giving me time to think of my decision. But the longer I wait, the worse it'll get...

Here's a picture of her and I:

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Even if you ever managed to marry her without converting, she's spend the entire marriage trying to subtly convert you. Pull the plug, this one's dead.

[T-Short]

bail.

[Mr. Gundam]

This is a deal breaker.

Break it off.

[John Dunbar]

Here's a picture of her and I:

(Image removed from quote.)

You can do better.

[Flannel Boy]

Here's a picture of her and I:

(Image removed from quote.)

You can do better.

I agree: he can do better. Here's a picture of her and me.

I think this is why I can't make friends. 

[demi]

tiesto, its time to say goodbye

[TVC15]

tiesto, its time to say goodbye

But first I think he needs to gut her and play with her intestines

[Fresh Prince]

Fucking Seriously. Bitch looks like a troll.

God loves ugly people too  :'(

[demi]

You guys should be nice to tiesto and his soon to be ex-girlfriend

[Grecco]

Do you seriously see yourself getting married to her? yes or no if yes then well go do the whole Jesus Freak thing if no well bail


so yeah bail. Plenty of Fish out there my brother.

[hyp]

damn she didn't let you hit that?  c'mon tiesto, at least get your knob slobbed.

[drohne]

as long as you're going to break it off, you should try converting her to secular humanism. granted that evangelism doesn't usually work in that direction, but your side is both right and fun. if there's any decency in her, she'll be unable to resist the manifest truth of modernist literature, sodomy, drug abuse, etc

[demi]

damn she didn't let you hit that?  c'mon tiesto, at least get your knob slobbed.

shes a born again prude. she probably has a chasity belt all lock and key and shit.

[WrikaWrek]

She's talking about marriage at the 4th month?

Bail out son

I am a typical lapsed Catholic that doesn't really believe in much, and what she wants from me is to raise kids Christian, send them to Jesus Camp, all that jazz.

Holy shiiiit.

Anyway, just tell her the only god in your life lives in your pants, and should she ever want to consult him all she needs is to address you.

She will leave you. If she doesn't...damn man, either run for your life or just go with it, fuck it.

(Image removed from quote.)

Bail the fuck out. And you look like the flying kid from Heroes

you have the worst luck with women it seems

  it's really true!

And no, no premarital sex so far. That should be reason enough to bail out methinks.

...

Dude what the fuck

[Fresh Prince]

well, i hae one friend who put up with this so far - the difference being his was an arranged marriage and his bride to be was screamingly SCREAMINGLY fucking hot. So he was given a pass.

From what I know of your life it sounds like an episode from Skins.

[duckman2000]

Most of the religious girls I've banged have been remarkable and freaky in bed, while still having that air of innocence about them. It's a drug, damn it.

[T234]

Perhaps you'll like these images better 


satan

FUK YOU ARRRRRRR I HAD PLACED THOSE MEMORIES DEEP WITHIN MY BRAIN NEVER TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AND YOU AND ESPN WON'T STOP BRINGING IT UP

spoiler (click to show/hide)

[close]

[T234]

HOLY SHIT KOSMA PULLED A MAGIC JOHNSON

[WrikaWrek]

Most of the religious girls I've banged have been remarkable and freaky in bed, while still having that air of innocence about them. It's a drug, damn it.

Stop watching hentai you perv, you'll go Cross eye

[tiesto]

Well I'm exhausted and I'm about to pass out... but I broke up with her today. She took it a bit better than I expected, so yeah... back to the dating... ahhh well. I didn't think she was that bad looking though honestly. 

[Bildi]

There's no winning here. You'll likely just have to end it. It's obviously a big enough issue to her that she was willing to gamble the relationship on it, so unless you have a dramatic shift in your views, I'd say run to the hills.

I agree with muckhole 110%.  I had a girlfried of a little over a year who had left all that shit behind years earlier but as it turned out was still petrified that hell might exist and that she might go there.  So she decided to go back to church and that was the end of it all.  I agree there's virtually zero hope for your relationship and you're far better off leaving now.

Sorry to hear tiesto.

Edit: oh, I arrived a minute late.  Good on you dude, hope you feel better soon.

[demi]

Well I'm exhausted and I'm about to pass out... but I broke up with her today. She took it a bit better than I expected, so yeah... back to the dating... ahhh well. I didn't think she was that bad looking though honestly. 

She's off to get some of that god fearing dick

[Fresh Prince]

It's probably for the best, otherwise you'd be in limbo; now at least you can move on.

[Rman]

Well I'm exhausted and I'm about to pass out... but I broke up with her today. She took it a bit better than I expected, so yeah... back to the dating... ahhh well. I didn't think she was that bad looking though honestly. 

Feel better, dude.

[The Sceneman]

sounds like a crappy situation bro. Well I think you did the right thing by ending it... but surely the no sex thing wouldve been an inidcator?

I do feel your pain, Ive been a bachelor for years now. Get the odd freaky one night staad but nothing more than that. I need to find myself a sugar mama. Like some 30-40 something woman who wants some young guy

[pilonv1]

sorry to hear tiesto

my gf is christian, she converted a few years ago from Buddhism. she doesn't care that im practically an atheist, and she doesn't force her views on me or anyone. it's awesome.

[WrikaWrek]

Well I'm exhausted and I'm about to pass out... but I broke up with her today. She took it a bit better than I expected, so yeah... back to the dating... ahhh well. I didn't think she was that bad looking though honestly. 

You'll feel worse when you catch her walking down the street with a huge black guy that you just know is destroying that piece of pussy.

[tiesto]

Hmm, now I'm talking to some 20 year old from Dirty Jersey, who moved up here to go to college, she's new in the area. Perhaps I'll invite her out for coffee and show her the area, she listens to house and trance music, got a bit of a nose though, not that I'm one to complain about that...

Gonna take a little bit of time off from dating, focus on playing some more RPGs and DJing and hanging out with friends I haven't seen in a while, before I jump back in...

[Akala]

Sucks.

On the bright side, you can use the "ex gf went fundie psycho from outta nowhere" story as a decent icebreaker for a bit if you play it right! Also, if you tell an easy girl that you went four months with no sex, they will usually sleep with you that night. Also, when you tell people this story sell it as fucked-up    , not emo  :'(.

Caution: will not work on evangelicals.