Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[Tasty]

And are they contractually bound to use that kind of "I thought she was with you" shtick?

The last trailer was a few ominous one-liners thrown on top of a music video, so I had forgotten to brace myself for how fucking horrid the dialogue would be. Uggggghhhh.

[toku]

Looks great I'm hyped.

[VomKriege]

Snyder

[Mandark]

They gave away the whole movie in the trailer and it looks bad.

[brob]

Snyder's worst trailer yet tbh

maybe that means the movie will be good

[Mupepe]

I like Snyder trailers and movies

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I haven't seen this one yet

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[Boogie]

Hey Snyder/WB, have you noticed how everyone has gotten super hyped off of the Star Wars trailers even though they have given away nearly nothing of the plot?

No, of course you haven't.

[Phoenix Dark]

So Lex uses dead Kyptonian bodies to create a monster, and then zzzzzzz

The excessive CGI for even the most minor shit really gives me Star Wars prequel vibes.

[ToxicAdam]

Hey Snyder/WB, have you noticed how everyone has gotten super hyped off of the Star Wars trailers even though they have given away nearly nothing of the plot?

No, of course you haven't.

Yea, even as a casual person (who I'm assuming they are targeting with a trailer like that), I feel like there is no reason to see it in the theater. The big intrigue was watching Superman and Batman fight each other and now that I know it's going to resolve itself because they have to fight yet another city-destroying alien, I don't care to see it at all.

I'm sure it will make a lot of money though. People seem to love watching cities getting destroyed by aliens or natural disasters.

 

[Tasty]

I honestly think Andy Samberg is going to kill it as Lex

Are you making a joke or do you not realize that it's Jesse Eisenberg?

[Steve Contra]

Holy shit that looks like a mess.  If Zack Snyder can't even pull out a good trailer this movie is in serious trouble.

[Mandark]

Was just reminded that Aquaman and Cyborg are in the movie too.  Even if they're just cameos the trailer still looks like they're stuffing way too much in.  How long is this movie going to be?

[Steve Contra]

If you're going to tease "BATMAN BIN SUPARMAN" why go and ruin by doing a "just kidding it's Batman AND Superman vs. Lex Luthor and some other guy only comic book nerds know and also Wonderwomen is in it please god come see this movie".

[Mandark]

Introducing Batfleck, moving him right into conflict with Supes, introducing Luthor, going right into him being a supervillain, having him make a bootleg Doomsday so Batman and Superman can resolve their differences and team up, bring in Wonder Woman, throw in Aquaman and Cyborg somewhere, etc.  Also Batman's out fighting in the desert or some shit and wearing a jacket?

Almost all big summer movies these days have to subordinate their story to the goals of tying in the IP of a bigger franchise and hitting a huge action beat every 20 minutes, but BvS really looks like it's getting crushed under the weight of those demands.

[Joe Molotov]

Holy shit that looks like a mess.  If Zack Snyder can't even pull out a good trailer this movie is in serious trouble.

From the director of The Watchmen....

[Steve Contra]

The Watchmen wasn't a mess, it was just boring.  This looks like it could be Schumacher Batman (well the first one at least) levels of bad.

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The movie itself

[Mupepe]

Introducing Batfleck, moving him right into conflict with Supes, introducing Luthor, going right into him being a supervillain, having him make a bootleg Doomsday so Batman and Superman can resolve their differences and team up, bring in Wonder Woman, throw in Aquaman and Cyborg somewhere, etc.  Also Batman's out fighting in the desert or some shit and wearing a jacket?

Almost all big summer movies these days have to subordinate their story to the goals of tying in the IP of a bigger franchise and hitting a huge action beat every 20 minutes, but BvS really looks like it's getting crushed under the weight of those demands.

Well DC is what... like 8 years behind Marvel?  They gotta scramble before this whole comic book cinematic universe thing passes.

[Mandark]

It really feels like that's their thinking, doesn't it?  Like they're riding Marvel's wave until the fad is over.  Weirdly no confidence in their own product.

Superman's a very big deal, Batman's a huge deal, and people know Wonder Woman, The Flash, etc.  Just make competent movies and let it come together on a natural timeline, guys.  That'd be fine.

[benjipwns]

Holy shit that looks like a mess.  If Zack Snyder can't even pull out a good trailer this movie is in serious trouble.

From the director of The Watchmen....

And 300's non-battle plot with McNulty...

[Tasty]

It's not DC vs. Marvel, it's Warner Bros. vs. Marvel Entertainment. The reason Marvel beat them to the punch by such a long amount of time is that WB is a big studio with lots of big personalities who all have lots of ideas. Kevin Feige is a dyed-in-the-wool comics fan. You think any of WB's execs know who the fuck Blue Beetle is? Probably not.

Fuck the Snyderverse, honestly. It was straight pap from day one with Man of Steel.

You know what's DC and live action and pretty great? The Arrowverse. Shit is tight, especially The Flash.

[Madrun Badrun]

Honestly people have been predicting the downfall of super hero movies since like X2 and they keep just getting more popular.  Also the Chinese market is now huge and growing and they love dumb action movies.  Rushing this seems like a miscalculation the size of Amazing Spiderman 2.     

I'll enjoy the movie but I'm not hyped for the universe and spin offs like I am the Marvel stuff. 

[toku]

[Mandark]

I loved Kiss Kiss Bang Bang way too much and now I'm way too hyped for this.

[Dickie Dee]

The Watchmen wasn't a mess, it was just boring.  This looks like it could be Schumacher Batman (well the first one at least) levels of bad.

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The movie itself

Watchmen was the definition of the sum being less than it's parts. Majority of the movie is made of genuinely great scenes, in isolation executed flawlessesly, some of the best comic book stuff put on film still...all adding up to a hill o' beans.

[Freyj]

I nearly shit myself in glee at that first Watchmen trailer right before The Dark Knight.

[Joe Molotov]

Ya, the Watchmen trailer was great. Then I saw the movie.

[Mandark]

Creed - Really, really good.

[benjipwns]

Let's not forget the film that made him a "visionary", that trailer was fucking badass at the time too:


He has a great visual sense, especially transferring comics to action, which can lead to some amazing scenes, but every single one of his films has felt way too long with way too many subplots and lacking a clear direction on where all the moving parts are headed.

Like two minutes after Zod dies, Man of Steel just kinda...ends.

[benjipwns]

[Phoenix Dark]

I still like 300.

Th problem with Watchmen is that it feels very disjointed, like a series of scenes edited together as others have said. Another major issue is the bad acting, especially in regards to dialogue delivery. Like the Star Wars prequels there seemed to be no director focus on anything outside of the CGI and action choreography.

[Rahxephon91]

Watchmen just feels like a best of clips strung together without any narrative flow. I mean it looks good and since I can fill in the blanks, I'm happy. But outside of that eh..

[benjipwns]

I thought for the theatrical cut, Snyder should have moved more of Watchmen's scenes (if not parts of the plot) around more than he did, and left the full version for the six hour Director's Cut. I would have approached it trying to focus heavily on the mystery/thriller aspect of the plot, cutting based on that instead of trying to panel-for-panel recreate everything.

The concluding peak plot scene is dull as fuck and hamfisted. Doesn't have the same emotional pacing or something.

Also most of the casting/acting outside of Rorschach and a latex clad Malin Akerman just seems awful.

Man of Steel was similar in terms of killing the pace with the unnecessary Krypton stuff and really everything pre-Superman except nomad Clark. And the final act didn't seem as well plotted or staged as the Smallville one/the escape from Zod's ship/etc. near the middle. Though lots of these movies (including Marvel's best...Avengers/Winter Soldier/Guardians) have problems with the last act for whatever reason*. The Nolan trilogy fell apart regularly at about the same point in each movie.

*I imagine BvS will be the same with a nice series of Batman/Superman duels plus endgame setup, and then a crap finale with Doomsday/Luthor/Diana/Cyborg and lots of destruction.

[benjipwns]

Part of me thinks Suicide Squad might actually be pretty good, even with Will Smith involved.

Guess we'll see more of that and X-Men: Apocalypse soon since new trailers just got rated for release and might be attached to Star Wars.

[benjipwns]

lol, being dumb (what else is new?) and looking up these trailers, I completely forgot about this first one and third one and only remembered the second:

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Fuck, Snyder makes a hell of a trailer. I guess he did get his start making commercials and music videos (same thing, natch) though, so that's to be expected probably.

How did BvS wind up with such a crappy one? I mean, these show pretty much everything, but it's only in retrospect having seen the film that you know where each part fits except for maybe those huge machines and the Metropolis battle obviously being part of the finale. And that's mostly the third trailer, which is from a month before release.

Anyway, back to AdVenture Capitalist!

[chronovore]

I like Snyder trailers and movies

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I haven't seen this one yet

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You've forgotten about Sucker-Punch?

[Phoenix Dark]

Snyder was so obsessed with adapting Watchmen panel for panel that the film has no identity. Watchmen is a great source material but like anything else requires changes to work/flow on film. Instead the film has a "this happens and then this happens and then this happens" feel to it.

[mormapope]

I saw Watchmen in theaters 

Definitely not a terrible movie, but its incredibly plodding. Feels like nothing happens the entire movie, and then shit happens in the final 10 minutes. 300 is Snyder's worse movie, just for the bro culture that ate that shit up. 300's popularity was very strange, bros loved it, along with meme spewing 4chan nerds.

[VomKriege]

Watchmen is a weird movie. On the surface it is slavishly faithful to the source, so much so that the pacing is terrible. It does however deviate sometimes and it is even worse (the ending doesn't bother me, but the assassination attempt is hilariously ham fisted). To an extent, 300 has the same problem : Superficially xeroxing the book but with some parts were the visuals are outrageously amped up and a lot of unfortunate padding (Leonidas pondering constitutionality, Senate refusing to sent reinforcements  ). And I could even add Man of Steel to the pile : in the end it does lift most of its substance from the Donner movies, with a dark and edgy form.

While I'm not sold on the kind of visuals he produces (That Krypton intro  ), I can admit there's some minimal effort going on here despite his weaknesses (that zoom - refocus effect in MoS being used again and again and again...). The key problem is he and his team (including his wife, I believe ?) are incapable to come up with a good script and to curate and edit their sources.

[benjipwns]

300's side plot was the weirdest fucking thing, I have no idea why they added that specific side plot.

I actually liked the reworking of the Persians into mythical monsters since the framing device is a future storytelling to new recruits.

300 is basically just a graphic novel with little exposition so Snyder had some freedom in reworking and adding to the battle scenes and everything, but Watchmen is a dense and much longer work that's heavy on it. If they made it now, it'd probably be one of these two-part films to maintain the panel-for-panel design.

[Phoenix Dark]

300 was easily the best theater experience I've had. Crowd was amped, the action was great, cheering at various lines whew. Drop home banging my head to Dio and was very entertained

[mormapope]

1:1 adaptations work well depending on the source material. Comic books and visual novels have always sounded cooler when being talked about in a general sense. Hearing or reading a summary of 20 Batman comics paints cooler imagery than actually reading through those 20 comics. At least, that's what it feels like as someone who doesn't like the comic book format but can dig a superhero story.

That's the main reason why The Avengers and the Nolan Batman movies work. Either show these characters doing outrageous cool shit for two hours, or take the source material and do your own thing for two hours.

[benjipwns]

Yeah, it was pretty great in the theater. Lord of War was another film I really liked in the theater, though it stands up better outside of it than 300. Dark Water is a bad movie, but a lot of its city shots looked great on the big screen.

My favorite though was seeing Hot Fuzz with three other friends, and that was it, nobody else in the theater.

The worst thing I ever did was see Doom in theaters.

[benjipwns]

As an aside, after that BvS trailer (which is pretty amusing at 0.5x speed on YouTube), this plot "leak" from a few months ago looks way more plausible as lining up with the actual one, referencing all sorts of specifics that show up in the trailer: https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3c5kmi/potential_spoilers_a_detailed_plot_of_batman_v

[mormapope]

I saw Joe dirt and Shallow Hal as a kid in theaters 

Spiderman 1 and the Jackass movie were great theater movies to see as a young lad.

I saw a string of bad movies later in highschool. The Watchmen, Bruno, Paranormal Activity, The Haunting of Connecticut (was dragged there). The fourth Pirates of the Caribbean. 

I have repressed movie theater memories 

[benjipwns]

I had a similar string of hits and misses in college with mostly misses around 2005-2006. That was the year of STEALTH. Which I didn't see until years later and loved in a so bad it's hilarious way.

Silent Hill was another movie I kinda liked more in theaters, especially Pyramid Head's scenes. Speaking of movies with god awful third acts. Even if it is fairly true to the games.

The Lady in the Water was around the same time, and The Illusionist. Little Miss Sunshine. Red Eye. Ultraviolet. A Prairie Home Companion. Flyboys. Freedom Writers. Smokin' Aces. Ugh, so many bad choices. Why did I let my friends pick movies to go see.

300 and Hot Fuzz were the two I pushed others to go see.

Jarhead was good. So I guess it wasn't all bad. Though my friend was upset for the same reason I like the film.

Hoodwinked! is a secret favorite, that people always wonder how I can like it. Same with Lucky Number Slevin. Oh, Thank You for Smoking! The Queen, The Departed, Stranger Than Fiction (even if I don't like the ending), Casino Royale. Notes on a Scandal.

The Proposition 

lol that was the era of Snakes on a Plane and Idiocracy too, with completely opposite internet interest that would reverse like a year later

Yes, I went on wikipedia's 200x in Film pages.

[Phoenix Dark]

My Hot Fuzz theater experience was disappointing because Cheebs was in the audience but I never found him. Hiding from me as usual

[benjipwns]

My favorite as a kid was going to see one of those kids/parents double features.

Space Jam.

My Fellow Americans.

 

[Mupepe]

Sucker Punch is full of sexy chicks being crazy and kicking ass. A-ok with me. Dawn of the Dead is pretty entertaining on its own.

[brob]

http://www.thefader.com/2015/12/04/ryuichi-sakamoto-interview-the-revenant

interview with ryuichi sakamoto about the score for the revenant. I'm not really hype about the film but an actor I've met several times is in it so I'm gonna watch it out of solidarity at least.

[Mandark]

I remember how hyped 300 was and how much dudes loved it at the time.  Walked out of the theater wondering if there was something I missed, same as I did with Phantom Menace.  So much slow motion.

[Tasty]

Not trying to hate, but there isn't a single thing in this I disagree with.

[VomKriege]

  Opening straight up with "Hur dur the glasses of Clark Kent disguise lolol not realistic". Those videos are sometimes midly entertaining but this is one is really laboring something fierce.

[chronovore]

Sucker Punch is full of sexy chicks being crazy and kicking ass. A-ok with me. Dawn of the Dead is pretty entertaining on its own.

I liked Snyder's Dawn remake just plenty fine. I guess I like Snyder when he's doing someone else's story. Sucker Punch was irredeemable.

[Tasty]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/star-trek-beyond-trailer-snags-846258

[brob]

 

[Stoney Mason]

Watched The Visit.

15 minutes in I wasn't sure I was gonna like it. The little boy is kind of annoying and kind of hit or miss when it comes to acting. And the camera footage gimmick is another one of those cases where its like completely not necessary. It would have worked better as just a straight normal movie ass movie. I'm not sure what makes this generation of kids and young adults think that found footage films is more visceral or something but in 20 or 25 years, people are going to look back and wonder why the hell all these movies were made this way.

That being said, its a very simple but ultimately effective horror/suspense movie. And one that genuinely leaves you feeling slightly un-nerved in a good way at key moments. It's not a great movie. It could have been a great movie with a few less gimmicks and slightly better pacing and construction but its a solidly good one and that's rare today for horror films. This is the level we expected Shyamalan to drop every time he made a movie. Not the detour into crap he took.

[ToxicAdam]

Finally saw Kingsman:The Secret Service a few nights ago. Really fun movie that is "What if Kick-Ass and James Bond had a baby?" The disappointing thing was how rushed the ending was.

[Tasty]

It's a reworking of the leaked Comic-Comic trailer, but I'll take it. Looks just as crazy and awesome as I hoped.

Megapocalypse pinning Charles down

Jean, Storm, Cyke, Jubilee all looking on point

Nightcrawler and Quicksilver

[Madrun Badrun]

[bork]

It's a reworking of the leaked Comic-Comic trailer, but I'll take it. Looks just as crazy and awesome as I hoped.

Megapocalypse pinning Charles down

Jean, Storm, Cyke, Jubilee all looking on point

Nightcrawler and Quicksilver

No Olivia Munn in that trailer, after all that press.