well Ive put quite a bit more time into this now and ive tried out the RVR scenarios and areas
Nordenwatch (I believe its called), that island where you have to capture and hold flags or whatever is pretty fun, id say order and chaos is 50/50 on my server for that one.
We've gotten completely stomped then the next time i tried we kicked ass.
But yeah the areas near deaths brink, that town nearby was chaos controlled for most of the day until order came in and gangraped everyone into submission when they came up that little hill entrance, including myself.
just wanted to do was some quests

so I waited a while till I wasn't the only one pissed off then me and some randoms took it back

anyone of you guys know how to make talismans that dont suck ass, I make ones that add like +2 whatever which is lame