FABLE II thread and nothing more

[pilonv1]

the first one sold 1million+ in the USA too. Saying it's a shit game and a bomb is just being too negative, it's not great but it's definitely fun

[WrikaWrek]

This game is at least good, Wrik tries too hard.

The game is well made, but it's not fun. If you don't care about marrying, having virtual kids, killing random npcs.

but nothing interesting really happens with the story

You mad? How far did you get?

Till after the fat Norida(? Heavenly sword bitch).

I just can't get into this game.

I've tried 2 times already. The game is visually rough as hell (360=shit), and it's just not fun. The characters talk a good game, but nothing interesting really happens with the story, and for all the funny sandbox stuff going on, the game isn't appealing.

I don't know how much money MS put on this game, but i hope the next one has a bit more of that "epic juice" going on with the story, and making you feel like you are involved in this crazy ass adventure.

This game is way too freaking soft.

Another bomb from MS.

um... it sold gangbusters compared to actual bombs

Didn't mean bomb like sales bomb. More like, bomb in the "it failed to cement itself as a big name in MS lineup".

It's not Too Human, but fable has become one of those "yeah whatever, i'll check it out whenever" games.

[demi]

huh? i still dont follow. fable was always "the xbox rpg"

[tiesto]

Is this game as short as the first one?

[WrikaWrek]

huh? i still dont follow. fable was always "the xbox rpg"

Completely disagree. Kotor was "the xbox rpg".

Fable was that game that failed hard at accomplishing anything it promised. And fable 2 is that "it's better than the 1st one, but it's clear by now that this is not the next big franchise".

And what i mean is, it's not a game that has people hyped up for the sequel, it's not a game that has people talking, and is not a game that gives you that "Blockbuster" vibe.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Is this game as short as the first one?

I think it's longer but it's hard to say.  Both games seem to go by pretty fast.

[AdmiralViscen]

If Fable 1 was as disappointing for the average gamer as you say it was, Fable 2 would have flopped.

[WrikaWrek]

?

If Fable 1 had reached the goals it set out to reach, Fable 2 would've been a Gears of War 2 size hit. Let's not forget there's a ton of "new" xbox gamers, that had never played Fable in the first place, and for all intents and purposes Fable 2 had good reviews, and a big marketing campaign, and considering how hungry the 360 audience has proved to be, selling on par with fable 1 in the U.S, isn't exactly some wonderful achievement, the game sold a million.

That's 60 million dollars right? +-

Considering the size of the project, it's not like it was a huge hit. It made nice bank i'm sure, but in movie terms it was as much of a hit as Hellboy 2 was.

[AdmiralViscen]

Fable sold 1.7M lifetime, Fable 2 sold 1.1 or 1.2M in like 40 days.

There is no way to say how big Fable 2 would have been if Fable 1 "delivered." I didn't like Fable 1 but I know a lot of people who loved it. The backlash exists on forums only, near as I can tell.

[WrikaWrek]

?

If Fable 1 had reached the goals it set out to reach, Fable 2 would've been a Gears of War 2 size hit. Let's not forget there's a ton of "new" xbox gamers, that had never played Fable in the first place, and for all intents and purposes Fable 2 had good reviews, and a big marketing campaign, and considering how hungry the 360 audience has proved to be, selling on par with fable 1 in the U.S, isn't exactly some wonderful achievement, the game sold a million.

That's 60 million dollars right? +-

Considering the size of the project, it's not like it was a huge hit. It made nice bank i'm sure, but in movie terms it was as much of a hit as Hellboy 2 was.

What the fuck are you talking about?  Fable 1 was the third best selling new game franchise last gen (maybe second?), and Fable 2 is tracking to beat it.  SMH @ not knowing what you are talking about.

On the Xbox maybe.

[WrikaWrek]

What? Where did you get that list?

What about Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, God of War, Kingdom Hearts, Singstar, and who knows what else?

[WrikaWrek]

And kingdom hearts doesn't even figure? 

You are just making that up.

[WrikaWrek]

Yes it is.

Still you don't answer where you got the list.

[WrikaWrek]

I call bullshit.

Oh and fable 1 had great legs. Fable 2 came instantly, that's what happens when you have competition. Xbox 1 was a barren wasteland.

[cool breeze]

what happened to you? get a little money from Wii games and now full on sales talk? your ass used to be beautiful

[WrikaWrek]

It's not the point anyway, the point is...








...this year looks horrible for the 360. I'm actually considering selling it. But it's a tough move now, i bought guitar hero for it.


And fable 2 ain't helping my decision.

[AdmiralViscen]

I call bullshit.

Oh and fable 1 had great legs. Fable 2 came instantly, that's what happens when you have competition. Xbox 1 was a barren wasteland.

You're really judging Fable 2's legs with two data points?

[Brehvolution]

...this year looks horrible for the 360. I'm actually considering selling it.

That's pretty near sighted.

[AdmiralViscen]

Yea that's distinguished mentally-challenged.

I don't know what I'm buying this year. Killzone 2 and Infamous on the one side, both Halo games on the other. Prototype and then I really can't think of anything else on disc.

[WrikaWrek]

...this year looks horrible for the 360. I'm actually considering selling it.

this was the mantra of the hopeful back in 2008, that the X360 had shot its load and , again, i expect 2009 to have lots of goodies that we don't know too much about.

Not me.

We knew everything that was coming last year in the beginning of the year if you think about it.

Gears 2? We already knew.

Banjo? Same shit. Goes for Fable 2 too.

We knew these games were coming in 09. Sure, MS only really announced them during E3, which means that if they decide to go with that route for new games, it will be harder for us to know ahead of time.

But we already know Forza 3 is coming, Alan Wake is a potential release, and Halo 3 ostd. Sure Rare will probably bring us another "concept" game, and i'm sure there will be plenty of shit like "You're at the movies" being announced too.

It just doesn't look gud, and i no longer pay Live.

[pilonv1]

cohen's list looks good to me.

also loul @ 2009 being shit. another year of ps3 i guess

[chronovore]

dcharlie, I had the same problem when backing out of Fable's sluggish menus. Wear Hat (B) Clothes (B) Items (B) {come on, come on} (B) (B) (B) Electrocute Passers-By... 

Just use Spell Selector to set your level-1 slot for Time Control instead of ZAPPO-EL-BOLTY-de-BOLTINESS. They get a little scared when you futz.

[chronovore]

I cannot do the Executioner achievement because I joined the Temple of Light? Are you shitting me

Thatz correct, sir. However you can hook up with anyone who is playing evil, hench in their game, and just watch them do it in one try. That's what I did.

Let DCharlie futz the menu and kill half the town one more time; he'll swap to evil faster than Anakin, then you can watch him kill peeps at the Wheel o' Fortune.

[chronovore]

dcharlie, I had the same problem when backing out of Fable's sluggish menus. Wear Hat (B) Clothes (B) Items (B) {come on, come on} (B) (B) (B) Electrocute Passers-By... 

Just use Spell Selector to set your level-1 slot for Time Control instead of ZAPPO-EL-BOLTY-de-BOLTINESS. They get a little scared when you futz.

oooh, thank you sir, will give it a try

i almost nearly lose it each time and almost decide to switch off safety and go psycho....

Incidentally, you can set Time Control on slot 3, and it will give you a lot more time to roll off the Level 4 and 5 damage spells.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I played a bit more and I'm starting to like it quite a bit. It really opened up out of nowhere.

[dammitmattt]

I decided to dig back into Fable II after not having played it since Fallout 3 came out.  I had just gotten the first hero, so I wasn't very far into the game, but it still took me a surprisingly long amount of time to get back into the flow of things.  The biggest hindrance is the piss-poor menu design (why are the detailed region maps three clicks deep???), which is still laggy even after installing the game to my hard drive, but it's also a little too easy to accidentally set villagers on fire when the button layout isn't burned into your brain.

Like someone else said, Fable 2 is this awkward mixture of Oblivion and Fable 1 where you're sort of on rails but sort of have some freedom to explore.  It's very inconsistent in letting you wander off the beaten path, which makes finding all the hidden keys/gargoyles/chests kind of a big pain in the ass, but it also means that there's not

However, after an hour or so of adjustment, I got back into the swing of things and started enjoying myself again.  The combat is fairly fun with all three weapons (level 3 time + level 5 fire for a good time), though after playing PoP I wish they would've done more with the timing windows and how they communicate to the user how and when to perform combos.  Something just doesn't feel quite right about the sword combat, and I hate that there's not a dedicated block button.  It basically turns into "roll in, swipe 3 times, roll out" over and over and over.

I'm also not finding myself particularly engaged in the story or the cutscenes, which is unfortunate because I really liked how it started off.

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

[Herr Mafflard]

I don't really like this game. I got the SE where you get Hal's armour and sword and I didn't even use the sword - it's got like 22 damage but 5 slots.

Oh and the bonus dvd is bullshit - it's just a compilation of all the video diaries.

Fucking last time I'm getting fooled by Molyneux and the hype train.

[WrikaWrek]

How hard can it be anyway?

A) Come up with a concept

B) Hire a writer to write the story

C) Hire Artists and Programmers to bring the concept and the story to life


Somehow often games seem like "Do concept, game, and write in your spare time, and whatever". And the main dude not having a voice sucks balls.

Cmon, get on with the times. It sucked in Zelda, it sucks in Fable. Learn with Mass Effect.

[WrikaWrek]

How hard can it be anyway?

A) Come up with a concept

B) Hire a writer to write the story

C) Hire Artists and Programmers to bring the concept and the story to life

Is there no pre prodution work done in games?

edit: Btw, i realize that's not how games are done...just sayin i wish it was more like that.

[rubber feathers]

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

Eh, there's some sidequests that'll disappear if you don't do them, but nothing really important.

Fable 2 really opened up...

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after you left the Spire.  You finally are able to do sidequests that actually have some meat to them, and are rather unique.  The story starts progressing more, Albion changes after the 10-year spire stint, etc.  It gets really good.  Fable 2 pre-spire is interesting enough to keep you going, but it's not exactly fun.

[close]

The game also does a really shitty job of explaining things to you, too.  I didn't know about the Gargoyles (at all – I thought that whiny, taunting voice was from beggars) until 2/3rds through the game, I didn't know about using multiple spells on the fly until I finished and sold the game, etc.  The relationship thing is stupid too; I can cheat on Alex and have her wanting to divorce me, but after doing a stupid "seduce" animation a few times in the town square, she's all happy.  It doesn't help that the women in the game all have the same three lines by the same voice actor, and have three different character models total.  Lionhead themselves poking fun at this in the load screens is worse – why didn't you assholes try to remedy this problem?  Ugh.

Fable 2's still a very good game with some really awesome moments and, in my opinion, surprisingly satisfying combat, but it has a shitload of flaws.  It needed another 6 months in the cooker.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I decided to dig back into Fable II after not having played it since Fallout 3 came out.  I had just gotten the first hero, so I wasn't very far into the game, but it still took me a surprisingly long amount of time to get back into the flow of things.  The biggest hindrance is the piss-poor menu design (why are the detailed region maps three clicks deep???), which is still laggy even after installing the game to my hard drive, but it's also a little too easy to accidentally set villagers on fire when the button layout isn't burned into your brain.

Like someone else said, Fable 2 is this awkward mixture of Oblivion and Fable 1 where you're sort of on rails but sort of have some freedom to explore.  It's very inconsistent in letting you wander off the beaten path, which makes finding all the hidden keys/gargoyles/chests kind of a big pain in the ass, but it also means that there's not

However, after an hour or so of adjustment, I got back into the swing of things and started enjoying myself again.  The combat is fairly fun with all three weapons (level 3 time + level 5 fire for a good time), though after playing PoP I wish they would've done more with the timing windows and how they communicate to the user how and when to perform combos.  Something just doesn't feel quite right about the sword combat, and I hate that there's not a dedicated block button.  It basically turns into "roll in, swipe 3 times, roll out" over and over and over.

I'm also not finding myself particularly engaged in the story or the cutscenes, which is unfortunate because I really liked how it started off.

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

I'm not nearly as far as you, but I hated the combat until I got flourishes. Having to use the same button for blocking and attacking got a lot less frustrating for me with flourishes since you need to hold X for them anyway.

[dammitmattt]

I decided to dig back into Fable II after not having played it since Fallout 3 came out.  I had just gotten the first hero, so I wasn't very far into the game, but it still took me a surprisingly long amount of time to get back into the flow of things.  The biggest hindrance is the piss-poor menu design (why are the detailed region maps three clicks deep???), which is still laggy even after installing the game to my hard drive, but it's also a little too easy to accidentally set villagers on fire when the button layout isn't burned into your brain.

Like someone else said, Fable 2 is this awkward mixture of Oblivion and Fable 1 where you're sort of on rails but sort of have some freedom to explore.  It's very inconsistent in letting you wander off the beaten path, which makes finding all the hidden keys/gargoyles/chests kind of a big pain in the ass, but it also means that there's not

However, after an hour or so of adjustment, I got back into the swing of things and started enjoying myself again.  The combat is fairly fun with all three weapons (level 3 time + level 5 fire for a good time), though after playing PoP I wish they would've done more with the timing windows and how they communicate to the user how and when to perform combos.  Something just doesn't feel quite right about the sword combat, and I hate that there's not a dedicated block button.  It basically turns into "roll in, swipe 3 times, roll out" over and over and over.

I'm also not finding myself particularly engaged in the story or the cutscenes, which is unfortunate because I really liked how it started off.

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

I'm not nearly as far as you, but I hated the combat until I got flourishes. Having to use the same button for blocking and attacking got a lot less frustrating for me with flourishes since you need to hold X for them anyway.

That's all fine and well if you're already attacking, but I want to block while I'm using ranged/magic, too :/

[chronovore]

How hard can it be anyway?

A) Come up with a concept

B) Hire a writer to write the story

C) Hire Artists and Programmers to bring the concept and the story to life

Seconded:

[chronovore]

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

There's that guy who used to have a criminally inaccurate thesaurus; he is looking for investments in the camp near the Crucible tower. Hit him up.

[chronovore]

Sorry, is that White Knight Story?

[chronovore]

Thank you. I looked up WKS and mostly found non-helpful MS Works links. :-/

How many people here can actually compare them, I wonder. A PS3 exclusive and a 360 exclusive... I thought the plan was to have one or the other, and then a Wii on backup for when family gatherings occur. :-)

All you goombahs playing and talking about it again... makes me regret giving Reno his copy back last week.

[dammitmattt]

I just finished the Crucible and I'm about to head to the Spire...is there anything I need to do before I go down this quest line?

There's that guy who used to have a criminally inaccurate thesaurus; he is looking for investments in the camp near the Crucible tower. Hit him up.

I'm really glad that I scraped together my gold to invest with him.  That was WELL worth it.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Is the rent system broken? I'm supposed to be getting it every 5 minutes even when I'm not playing, right? Why did I just log in and get like an eigth of what I calculated I'd have earned?

[chronovore]

Is the rent system broken? I'm supposed to be getting it every 5 minutes even when I'm not playing, right? Why did I just log in and get like an eigth of what I calculated I'd have earned?

Rent is every 5 minutes you're playing, but the accruing runs at a different rate when the machine is not actively running the game. You can leave the 360 on overnight, which will get you the full amount AND heat your living room.

[chronovore]

just got to Stephen Fry

O-M-EFFING-GEE. Is that who that was? No wonder the voice was so good. He was the character I most emotionally connected with:

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I wanted to kill him.

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[pilonv1]

he was by far the highlight for me.

now i want to watch a bit of fry and laurie

[demi]

Yes, but you should be able to select what spell you want to cast at whichever level

[chronovore]

Just use whatever's appropriate. It basically helps to use a low-level time dilation and then another spell to follow it up. The added time means you can cast a higher level spell.

[dammitmattt]

I just went through Wraithmarsh and Bloodstone for the first part of the Hero of Skill quest, and the game is getting more and more enjoyable.  I had been a bit down on the main storyline during the Spire section (I appreciate what they did from a story point of view, but it was just a huge, boring environment), but it's picking up again, and for the first time, there's a good number of (meaty) side quests available to choose from, including more interesting jobs.  It's also nice to have access to great guns, swords, and magic in addition to a healthy amount of cash to spend after feeling so restricted earlier in the game.

On a side note, my main combat strategy until recently was to cast a level 3 time and then follow that up with level 4/5 inferno.  It was just so much more devastating than any gun/melee attacks I had at the time.  Unfortunately, this turned me into a bald will user with blue glowing shit running through my body, which means my character looks JUST LIKE Baldur from Too Human.  Is there any way to change or reverse this, or am I stuck looking like this?

Also, does anyone have a good map of the silver keys and gargoyles.  The text guide I have isn't good enough to help me find a couple of missing items that I have.

[chronovore]

I suspect if you sell off your Will skills for points you might remove them...? Or it might just track the total amount of Will XP, whether or not you've invested it in spells. It would be a pretty crappy way to spend points though.

Just use a collar to rename your dog "Dyack" and take out your frustrations passively by never healing it.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Fuck this stupid bullshit game. The game didn't tell me it was going to entirely eliminate the Temple of Shadows after that stupid fucking Temple of Light mission. This is bullshit. And they force a save right the fuck after it happens so you don't have a chance to reload, and they only let you have one fucking save. Fuck this piece of shit. I don't even want to play it anymore now, and I was just starting to really like it.

[dammitmattt]

Fuck this stupid bullshit game. The game didn't tell me it was going to entirely eliminate the Temple of Shadows after that stupid fucking Temple of Light mission. This is bullshit. And they force a save right the fuck after it happens so you don't have a chance to reload, and they only let you have one fucking save. Fuck this piece of shit. I don't even want to play it anymore now, and I was just starting to really like it.

Fuck this game for making your decisions actually mean something.  Fuck it hard in the ass.

Dude, all you lost was 10 potential achievement points and a slightly annoying side quest with little benefit.  There's much, much more stuff that opens up later in the game that's more fun both on the good and especially evil sides.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I'm all for decision making when the consequences are drawn out for the player. The quest description said nothing of destroying the temple. It just said I was defending Oakfield. As an OCD completionist, that shit bugs me. But I've gotten over it.

[pilonv1]

NO!

Ladies, gents....

watch QI !

(Quit Interesting)

Stupid comedy trivia quiz show hosted by Fry. It's great.


http://jp.

Fry destroys Alan Davies.

guy next to me at work has QI on DVD

i just want some old fry & laurie

maybe i should fire this up tonight and check my rental properties

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I didn't do a single Demon Door, did I miss anything? What's behind them anyways?

[Trent Dole]

I didn't do a single Demon Door, did I miss anything? What's behind them anyways?

Crappy items.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Oh okay then it doesn't bother me anymore that I ignored them.

I liked it. I couldn't get past ten minutes of Fable 1 but I actually stook around to beat this one. The only thing I hated was how choosing Strength powers made me obese.

[Trent Dole]

You can have multiple heroes. I have four.

[Bildi]

The only thing I hated was how choosing Strength powers made me obese.

I understand their reasoning, but I don't really like it either.  I actually undid my strength levelling up early on because my female character looked so fugly.

[demi]

Oh okay then it doesn't bother me anymore that I ignored them.

I liked it. I couldn't get past ten minutes of Fable 1 but I actually stook around to beat this one. The only thing I hated was how choosing Strength powers made me obese.

Strength makes you bigger and buffer. Eating fat food and beer makes you fat.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Wait, you can have multiple saves? Awesome. Never mind my earlier nerd rage.

[AdmiralViscen]

I saved the Light/Dark missions till after the Spire only to find that Dark wins and Oakfield looks like shit forever  :'(

btw I hear that some of the Demon Doors have pretty big and awesome areas behind them.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

One of the Demon Doors I opened got me a pretty sweet house and a bad ass hammer.

[chronovore]

I didn't do a single Demon Door, did I miss anything? What's behind them anyways?

Do the one in Wraithmarsh, on the way to Bloodstone... in the row of crypts. I liked that one.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Wow. I set multiplayer orbs to everyone to see what it was like, and some guy just completely out of nowhere without saying anything gave me all the dolls.