dragon quest 4

[Van Cruncheon]

what a shit game

even mirror's edge is way better than this turd

[Positive Touch]

send your copy to me

[Joe Molotov]

Nostalgia owned.

[Van Cruncheon]

kids are fuckin' dumb

[Positive Touch]

old people are confused

[Greatness Gone]

I agree with you. Probably the worst rpg I've played since FFXII.

No story, no sense of direction, SHITTY TRANSLATION, and an ugly art style?

[Jansen]

No story, no sense of direction

that's dragon quest for ya.

[Bebpo]

wtf 

DQIVr, DQVr are better than 99% of the jrpgs made since.  They have charming characters, simple but endearing stories, A+++++ music, and user-friendly gameplay that's not too grind heavy and even when you die you don't feel bad because you keep your xp.  They're about exploring worlds and going on adventures and doing it on a quick pace.  I think DQIVr took me like 20 hours and DQVr around 30.

I can't wait for DQVIr.  I bet it'll be better than every rpg on the DS/PSP DQIX included.  Old-school DQ is the jrpg.

[Greatness Gone]

 

leper bebpo

[Smooth Groove]

Old school DQs are nothing more than watered down versions of Ultima. 

[Greatness Gone]

I enjoyed Too Human more than DQ4. Easily the worst game I've played this year.

[Joe Molotov]

Old school DQs are nothing more than watered down versions of Ultima. 

New school DQs are nothing more than watered down versions of Dragon Ball Z.  :'(

[tiesto]

DQ4 gets really fucking good in the 5th chapter... when the world opens up a bit more and things get a bit less linear. The translation is terrible, with all the lame accents but the rest of the game is damn good. Can't wait for DQ5 DS, now that is a killer game.

DQ4 has going for it:
-Great music
-Some cool dungeons (though they seem a lot smaller in this remake)
-Extremely quick combat
-Cool final boss fight
-Taloon's chapter which is one of the most creative RPG scenarios around

Surprised Prole hates it esp considering he's a big DQ7 fan from what I remember. Prole, what don't you like about DQ4 as compared to the DQ games you have enjoyed?

Bebpo, did you ever play DQ6 original? I liked DQ5 a lot more personally. But DQ6 is one of the tougher games in the series.

[Van Cruncheon]

mostly the translation. just when i thought i'd escaped the bad scottish mashups, i got hit with several towns worth of borat. on top of that, the game feels very linear and extremely shallow, the characters are distinguished mentally-challenged, and the whole thing is scrotum-ugly.

[Van Cruncheon]

ultima iv and v

pc rpg design and gross town->dungeon->town linearity are anathema

[Bebpo]

Well I can't speak for the translation because I played the DQIV that didn't have a horrible localization 

Bebpo, did you ever play DQ6 original? I liked DQ5 a lot more personally. But DQ6 is one of the tougher games in the series.

Nope.  DQVIII was my first DQ, and then DQVr on PS2 and then DQIVr on DS.  I really like the graphical Grandia like style of 4r/5r so I'll just wait for the remake for DQVI. 

Maybe will play VII one day, but my favorite things about DQIV/V are how fast paced and concise they are compared to the slower and loooonger DQVIII.  So VII's running length of 100+ hours means who knows if I'll ever play it.

[Van Cruncheon]

i actually beat dq7

125 hours

[tiesto]

I would kill someone to be able to forget Ultima V so I could play it again and get that "holy shit...HOLY FUCKING SHIT" feeling again.

I really wish I would've bought that Ultima collection they came out with on PC a while back. Now, I hear that a lot of them are pains in the asses to play, due to all the weird-ass DOS memory managers the games used. Ultima is the only WRPG series I like...

[Positive Touch]

I remember when I was a kid I was torn between getting the newest Ultima game (I had never played the series but I really wanted to) and Illusion of Gaia.  Eventually I pick Gaia because it came with a free t-shirt   worst decision I ever made

I still haven't played an Ultima game

[Positive Touch]

I enjoyed Too Human more than DQ4. Easily the worst game I've played this year.

send your copy to me

[Greatness Gone]

I traded it in for Fable II. 

[Jabberwocky]

is Greatness Gone the guy that said Crisis Core was the best JRPG this year?

[Greatness Gone]

Crisis Core's Gackt filled, drama-ridden plot is leagues above the shit in DQIV.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I never played Ultima V

I played IV, VI, VII, and the two Underworlds

I should play Ultima IV and V again, they are better than anything else coming out this fall

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Never played an Ultima game in my life.

[Van Cruncheon]

i have ultima iv and v on my netbook

[Himu]

ultima 7

I like dq4 ds. It's fun. It has a lot of flaws that bring down the experience though.

[Greatness Gone]

I don't really go into games looking for reasons to hate them, though, so I guess I'm pretty different from my fellow hardcore gamers.

I'm no hardcore gamer, but I do this. DQIV still fucking sucks, regardless.

[Van Cruncheon]

I thought DQIV was pretty damned fun.  I don't really go into games looking for reasons to hate them, though, so I guess I'm pretty different from my fellow hardcore gamers.

don't be coy. i liked dq3gb and dq7 a lot. dq4 is just an overlocalized, shallow chore. there'd better be a job system in chapter 5!

[Himu]

The accents in DQ4 ds are shit. Don't do that ever again, S-E.