Author Topic: So Prince of Persia sounds like a Ubisoft game/ Official EB POP thread (Read 49476 times)

demi · « **Reply #300 on:** December 06, 2008, 12:32:46 PM »

He doesnt HAVE to, he just does it cause he LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES her

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #301 on:** December 06, 2008, 12:37:10 PM »

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would be much better if he just had sex with the corpse...then brought her back to life and ditched her when she was 8 months preggo.

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cool breeze · « **Reply #302 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:20:07 PM »

oh man, after the second Concubine fight it's totally like he's gonna bang her, and she's gonna bang him.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #303 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:22:32 PM »

Please guys, some people here haven't finished the game. If there is one thing i don't like spoiled, that thing is the ending.

Don't be aholes, i know you guys are keeping the REAL spoilers tagged, but the talk around it, with comparisons to other games, etc etc, isn't helping.

So please, if you are really feeling the need to talk about the ending, do me a favor an spoiler tag the whole thang. Tks

demi · « **Reply #304 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:24:07 PM »

FUCK UP WITH YOUR RIGHTEOUS SELF

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #305 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:26:47 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 06, 2008, 01:24:07 PM

FUCK UP WITH YOUR RIGHTEOUS SELF

I'm not hyper sensitive about spoilers, it's just that the ending is a big deal.

It's like when i bought that Harry potter book, came home, opened Gaf, and there were big ass gifs about Snape killing Dumbledore. Never read the book, or harry potter after that.

It's not fun to be spoiled about important points in a plot.

cool breeze · « **Reply #306 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:49:01 PM »

why aren't they banging yet? they are rubbing up all against each other throughout the entire game and tell each other they want to bang, but oh no, gotta stop this Ahriman guy before it or some shit

cool breeze · « **Reply #307 on:** December 06, 2008, 01:53:29 PM »

I just noticed that the guy who voices the Prince has two things present in the three big games he did. Automatic platforming a lead female that he doesn't bang. Ellen from Uncharted? didn't bang. Eleka from PoP? didn't bang. Random chick from Assassin's Creed? didn't bang. I mean, I played a goddamn 'guess what i'm looking at game' with this Princess for 5 minutes and they still didn't bang, and you have him all talking about thick carpets and shit.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #308 on:** December 06, 2008, 02:04:35 PM »

Banging would make zero sense.

But i don't understand why Naughty Dog decided to not make Drake and the what's her name kiss at the end. That was so lame, it was basically a kick in the nuts, reminding you that it's a game, and somehow characters having any sort of physical relationship in games is some out there shit, it's fucking hilarious.

Jansen · « **Reply #309 on:** December 06, 2008, 03:02:25 PM »

after reading user impressions i thought this game would suck... but it doesn't. it isn't anywhere near as great as sands of time but it is still good.

as for elika saving your ass i think i like it better then say, in tomb raider where if you miss a jump and die the game has to load and start you off not far from where you died.

then again you do lose the tension created by not wanting to fall (which i also like) and start a platforming bit over again... so i dunno how i truly feel about it yet lol

anyways the game is fun. i really like the cinematic feel of the combat.

cool breeze · « **Reply #310 on:** December 06, 2008, 04:33:24 PM »

the combat is really easy for the most part

for all the scrub enemies between areas, you just do B, B to throw them to the edge and you automatically finish them. For bosses you just do X, B, Y, Y, X and it takes off a good chunk of their health

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #311 on:** December 06, 2008, 04:37:49 PM »

I really like this, it's pretty pimp. I like the adventuring and the talking and fighting and stuff , I kinda feel like buying it. It's funny I've read that it's short but looking at the map it seems far from it.

Also Trophies

demi · « **Reply #312 on:** December 06, 2008, 05:59:32 PM »

stfu with your trophy havin ass

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #313 on:** December 06, 2008, 06:00:57 PM »

I rate this as slightly better than Assassin's Creed. Really pretty, but super boring.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #314 on:** December 06, 2008, 06:09:30 PM »

I love the interaction between the Prince and Elika.

It's sort of the opposite of Assassins Creed. In Assassins Creed, i felt lonely, and it worked really well in the context. Here i always feel accompanied, and i'm always trying to talk with Elika, just pissed her off with the Guess game.

Jansen · « **Reply #315 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:11:12 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on December 06, 2008, 04:33:24 PM

the combat is really easy for the most part

for all the scrub enemies between areas, you just do B, B to throw them to the edge and you automatically finish them. For bosses you just do X, B, Y, Y, X and it takes off a good chunk of their health

yeah the combat is easy but it's still fun.

shame that there isn't different difficulties

Quote from: Greatness Gone on December 06, 2008, 06:00:57 PM

I rate this as slightly better than Assassin's Creed. Really pretty, but super boring.

surprised you don't love this game being a kingdom hearts fan and all

drew · « **Reply #316 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:16:58 PM »

hold up, GG likes Kindom Hearts?

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #317 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:55:05 PM »

Killed the first boss. I'm loving this game

And the Prince is awesome.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #318 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:57:22 PM »

So... 360 version or PS3?

Jansen · « **Reply #319 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:09:48 PM »

you should always go with the 360 version on multiplatform games. but since you're having trouble deciding just remember this is ubisoft

y2kev · « **Reply #320 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:11:07 PM »

The PS3 version is actually really good and most of the video reviews I've seen (like gametrailers) are using the PS3 game. Ubisoft has come a long way...first FC2 and now this. Controller preference.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #321 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:13:06 PM »

Thanks. 360 version it is.

cool breeze · « **Reply #322 on:** December 06, 2008, 10:35:55 PM »

IGN has a video comparison up, but I haven't watched it since I already own it on the 360. Initially I had it on PS3 because of sound reasons, but since the install option I don't have that problem (although it's still quite a bit louder than my PS3, just bearable now). I thought it would be one of those games like Ico/SotC where listening to the ambiance and all that would be important, but instead it's wisecracks and more action like music.

BlackMage · « **Reply #323 on:** December 06, 2008, 11:05:41 PM »

Man, this game is for babies. It's too easy

cool breeze · « **Reply #324 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:14:20 PM »

this game sucks

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #325 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:16:01 PM »

Just done cleansing another big area, another boss down!

This game rules. My god is it a wonder to look at, this game is jaw dropping beautiful.

Jansen · « **Reply #326 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:21:28 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 05:14:20 PM

this game sucks

or maybe you just suck at it and have commenced to hatin'

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btw that's a joke since it's impossible to suck at this game

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Don Flamenco · « **Reply #327 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:49:14 PM »

I guess this is Ubisoft's attempt to Wii-ize typically "hardcore" (whatever that means) games. So now the games that look cool have no learning curve at all. Can't tell if this is the exact definition of "accessible gameplay" or one way to throw an atom bomb at the problem...so that anyone who can point an analog stick can win.

in b4 "what's wrong with everybody being able to win teh game easily?"

y2kev · « **Reply #328 on:** December 07, 2008, 05:54:19 PM »

The "no die" thing would be fine if, for example, the game had Sands of Time style platforming and puzzles. It has nothing like that at all. The platforming itself is extremely easy. You almost don't have to pay attention save for pressing b occasionally.

The "elika saves you" thing is actually a nice way around a technical issue (reloading, though Mirror's Edge doesn't reload after you die anyway). In typical Ubisoft fashion, they have a great technical solution that they don't bother to turn into actual gameplay.

The game is enjoyable but it's like B+ for me...disappointment, I was expecting a game of SoT quality.

y2kev · « **Reply #329 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:19:21 PM »

The combat is horrible. It looks cool but it's so horrible. The enemy is constantly changing "phase" (meaning you can only attack with a set attack), it's LOADED with QTEs (loaded to the ass with "mash X as fast as humanly possible!!!! style), and it tells you when you need to block and stuff.

1 vs. 1 was a good idea since combat in the old games was never really good anyway, but it's the same deal. Great technical camerawork wasted on what is basically press x press x press x press x press x press x press y press x press x press x MASH X MASH X MASH X press b press x

y2kev · « **Reply #330 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:35:20 PM »

i think i saw a deconstructed falafel on top chef

i was like LOL

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #331 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:43:06 PM »

Quote from: jarosh on December 07, 2008, 06:33:19 PM

that's how this gen feels to me. everything is chunk sized and easily accessible, obvious and glorified but the parts don't come together to form a cohesive whole anymore.

yeah, that's a good way of putting it. there's no cohesion to the game at all, it's just ... entirely arbitrary

cool breeze · « **Reply #332 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:48:45 PM »

this game is a prime example of why artificially lengthening games is distinguished mentally-challenged when the developers are creatively bankrupt. It's the same boring game repeated 6 times over again, except with collecting. It's like a Bizarro Rare game if they had good art style but even worse gameplay. And I'm doing this final boss thing whatever right now and just wow...ubishit indeed

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #333 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:52:08 PM »

You guys are way too fucking demanding. Not every game has to be the 2nd coming.

This gen this gen this gen, stfu with the "this gen" shit. As if last gen was any better, you gotta be kidding.

drew · « **Reply #334 on:** December 07, 2008, 06:53:07 PM »

all i ask is that a Prince of Persia game have platforming

i dont think thats asking too much

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #335 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:01:08 PM »

It has lot's of platforming.

Take it or leave it. You want other kind of games there is other kind of games. Tomb Raider, Mirrors Edge. Sands of time was ways ago. The director decided to do something different with this installment, and it's a technically sound game, everything works, now you might not have fun with it, and that's too bad for you, but stop asking for the game to be something it isn't.

I think it's alright to trash a game that is a broken mess, but this one isn't. I'm having a lot of fun, and i'm sure many other people will too.

And i don't understand the whole "cohesive" bs either, and then the throwbacks to 16 bit gaming? Give me a fucking break.

cool breeze · « **Reply #336 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:04:35 PM »

that ending was really dumb

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #337 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:07:25 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 06:48:45 PM

It's the same boring game repeated 6 times over again,

hmm what other ubisoft game does this remind me of
hmm
hmmmmm

y2kev · « **Reply #338 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:07:58 PM »

my review of prince of persia:

what's good isn't original, what's original isn't good

you may quote me

y2kev · « **Reply #339 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:15:09 PM »

I hope you bought mirror's edge. i dont mean it like "put up or shut up" but i think you would like it

cool breeze · « **Reply #340 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:15:46 PM »

Why does Ubisoft want to waste our times in their games instead of enjoying them? Instead of platforming, I'm fighting lame enemies and pressing y for 2 minutes straight; in Far Cry 2 I'm just driving to get the chance to drive some more; in Assassin's Creed I'm trying to pickpocket some guy so I have the chance to kill someone eventually.

still, PoP is fun at times, very nice to look at (btw I just looked at my TV and these credits are still going on, and it doesn't help that they are the second set of credits...race between insomniac and ubi for who can have more obnoxious unskippable credits), nice music and things like that. Not worth buying. Questionable rental as well. Probably only get if you have gamefly and want to try it out if there is no demo because once you understand the core gameplay (wooo credits finally ended) the only thing that changes throughout the game are more chances to just press y and watch a boring cutscene. It never gets harder or anythign like that.

demi · « **Reply #341 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:17:12 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on December 07, 2008, 07:07:25 PM

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 06:48:45 PM
It's the same boring game repeated 6 times over again,

hmm what other ubisoft game does this remind me of
hmm
hmmmmm

LOST

y2kev · « **Reply #342 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:17:34 PM »

like ubisoft's credits, insom's have screen tearing

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #343 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:17:47 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on December 07, 2008, 07:07:58 PM

my review of prince of persia:

what's good isn't original, what's original isn't good

you may quote me

How original is it though? It seems like they organized a think tank, threw copies of Okami, SotC, ICO, (and Uncharted lol) on the table, and said "come up with something artsy-looking, but that will appeal to everyone."

y2kev · « **Reply #344 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:20:26 PM »

the overall aesthetic and score, and some of the level design

the story is sotc. elika is not helpless or even dependent, so imo if ico was the aim...complete failure. sotc totally though.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #345 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:21:20 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 07:15:46 PM

Why does Ubisoft want to waste our times in their games instead of enjoying them? Instead of platforming, I'm fighting lame enemies and pressing y for 2 minutes straight; in Far Cry 2 I'm just driving to get the chance to drive some more; in Assassin's Creed I'm trying to pickpocket some guy so I have the chance to kill someone eventually.

still, PoP is fun at times, very nice to look at (btw I just looked at my TV and these credits are still going on, and it doesn't help that they are the second set of credits...race between insomniac and ubi for who can have more obnoxious unskippable credits), nice music and things like that. Not worth buying. Questionable rental as well. Probably only get if you have gamefly and want to try it out if there is no demo because once you understand the core gameplay (wooo credits finally ended) the only thing that changes throughout the game are more chances to just press y and watch a boring cutscene. It never gets harder or anythign like that.

Questionable rental?

I love these uber high standards. You probably buy 3 or 4 games a year i'm sure.

Oh and i'm like 70% in, so far, Story being like SOTC comments, are complete bullshit.

y2kev · « **Reply #346 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:23:28 PM »

beat the game, wrika

My standards are not high, i love kusoge and i said this was an enjoyable game. but it's WAY WORSE than the other prince of persias.

y2kev · « **Reply #347 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:30:50 PM »

No, I know what you mean. sometimes if i have to switch disks to play a new game i wont do it lol

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #348 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:31:53 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on December 07, 2008, 07:20:26 PM

the overall aesthetic and score, and some of the level design

the story is sotc. elika is not helpless or even dependent, so imo if ico was the aim...complete failure. sotc totally though.

Bringing her around with you = ICO levels of attachment. I'm talking about the whole package-- the pretense from the trailers is that it's something unique, but I just see other games in it.

Quote from: WrikaWrek

Questionable rental?

I love these uber high standards. You probably buy 3 or 4 games a year i'm sure.

Oh and i'm like 70% in, so far, Story being like SOTC comments, are complete bullshit.

yeah, people have standards sometimes. shocking, i know.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #349 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:34:17 PM »

Mirrors Edge is good, but, at least SP wise, it does nothing to sway the notion of existing pussification in games. I've died more times in POP by now than i did in Mirrors Edge.

Hearing 1upyours, hearing these dudes complain about how hard it was to shoot/fight/win, whatever, was just painful. First, you gotta understand the concept of the game, then you play by it's rules, that's the whole point, in Mirrors Edge you shouldn't be fighting/shooting your way out, and the platforming is super super basic.

The only reason the platforming offers any sort of challenge, is due to the point of view, that makes the "big picture" hard to see.

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on December 07, 2008, 07:31:53 PM

yeah, people have standards sometimes. shocking, i know.

I don't know, 3 to 4 games a year, just sounds like your standards need an adjustment. Then again, you do save a lot of money.

y2kev · « **Reply #350 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:35:17 PM »

Oh, I know what you mean. But to me ICO was not special because you have someone following you (I mean plenty of games have coop partners), but it was the dependency that was special. That sense of contact you get from leading her around by the hands. In some ways, because she was such an annoying douche, you came to appreciate her oddly. Like...you really physically bonded with her. Elika works much better as a gameplay element because she's not annoying, but the themes of dependency and trust do not get as communicated as effectively. She could do the entire damn quest herself.

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I've died more times in POP by now than i did in Mirrors Edge.

depends why you failed.

cool breeze · « **Reply #351 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:37:37 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on December 07, 2008, 07:21:20 PM

Questionable rental?

I love these uber high standards. You probably buy 3 or 4 games a year i'm sure.

Oh and i'm like 70% in, so far, Story being like SOTC comments, are complete bullshit.

I played Spider-Man Web of Shadows two weeks ago, Sonic Unleashed a few days ago, and Castlevania Judgement like a month ago. I enjoyed all of them (except Sonic for the most part) and PoP, so I'd say my standards aren't very high, but PoP is a game where you gain nothing from playing it since unlike a normal game there is nothing to challenge you and no real incentive to continue on unless you love the story and hearing all the quips back and forth. The gameplay actually gets worse as you continue on because of those power plates. If anything it was my moderately high expectations for this game that has me so letdown and actually bewildered as to how they could fuck up this game. People are saying that it's the same as SOTC as in you travel and fight bosses only, but here you fight 4 bosses 6 times each.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #352 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:38:45 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on December 07, 2008, 07:35:17 PM

depends why you failed.

Well many times i miss the jump, get caught by corruption, don't dodge shit i'm supposed to. But it's not frustrating, which is awesome.

I generally don't handle death in games particularly well, sure there are games where i don't mind, but overall i don't like dying in games, and seeing a "game over" or a death screen of any sort is almost game braking to me. Just instantly reload the last checkpoint for Christ sakes.

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 07:37:37 PM

I played Spider-Man Web of Shadows two weeks ago, Sonic Unleashed a few days ago, and Castlevania Judgement like a month ago. I enjoyed all of them (except Sonic for the most part) and PoP, so I'd say my standards aren't very high, but PoP is a game where you gain nothing from playing it since unlike a normal game there is nothing to challenge you and no real incentive to continue on unless you love the story and hearing all the quips back and forth. The gameplay actually gets worse as you continue on because of those power plates. If anything it was my moderately high expectations for this game that has me so letdown and actually bewildered as to how they could fuck up this game. People are saying that it's the same as SOTC as in you travel and fight bosses only, but here you fight 4 bosses 6 times each.

Dude you play trash like Spider Man web of shadows, and Sonic Unleashed....

That's all that i needed to know, you don't like POP, well yeah...it's not Web of Shadows i'll tell you that. And i hope that you weren't bothered in any way by Prince's voice acting, and dialog, because they sound like Oscar material in comparison to the offensively bad voice acting of Spiderman in Web of Shadows.

drew · « **Reply #353 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:45:46 PM »

i should have been more specific

i want PoP w/out fuck-all distinguished mentally-challenged fellow easy automatic mode

cool breeze · « **Reply #354 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:48:26 PM »

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I enjoyed all of them (except Sonic for the most part) and PoP

yeah, I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the game (except for when I got really annoyed at having to fight the same enemy for a 5th time and saying it sucked, but it kind of does, I enjoyed it regardless). It's better than all those games I mentioned btw.

I also didn't mind the Nathan drake voice acting. Hell, I even played the guessing game with Eleka at one point. Plus I believed I once described Spider-Man's voice in Web of Shadows as a leper who just deepthroated a 12 inch dildo covered in sandpaper, so I wasn't a fan of that. You're really reaching for reasons to explain why my 100% valid and correct criticism on a game I enjoyed somehow isn't valid.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #355 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:50:32 PM »

Look at this shit.

And swaggaz, see that's what i don't understand. You say you enjoyed it, but all i see you do is trash the game. You even said the game sucked in the last page.

cool breeze · « **Reply #356 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:55:15 PM »

I think I said I enjoyed the fast paced platforming even if it was automatic, plus that the game is very nice to look at, and that the music is very good, also that I liked the Eleka save mechanic. I got a lot of that out of the earlier on since that's when it was most enjoyable, most of my posts here are later in the game where it's just a grind of collecting orbs and fighting enemies again for the 4th, 5th, and 6th time. They also introduce more power plates and a lot of platforming is removed and instead it's just hitting Y over and over again without any real timing required.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #357 on:** December 07, 2008, 07:57:35 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on December 07, 2008, 05:14:20 PM

this game sucks

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cool breeze · « **Reply #358 on:** December 07, 2008, 08:04:49 PM »

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(except for when I got really annoyed at having to fight the same enemy for a 5th time and saying it sucked, but it kind of does, I enjoyed it regardless)

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WrikaWrek · « **Reply #359 on:** December 07, 2008, 08:11:10 PM »

This game way better than spidershit.

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Author Topic: So Prince of Persia sounds like a Ubisoft game/ Official EB POP thread (Read 49476 times)