Author Topic: Can you solve The Riddle of Hirai? (Read 2091 times)

dcharlie · « **on:** January 20, 2009, 10:30:28 AM »

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"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?" explained Hirai.

... develop for Wii, Ds and X360?

Diunx · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:40:24 AM »

Why the hell do they keep asking pr people technical questions? if you go out of their script they will begging to spit nonsense like in this case.

Bocsius · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:40:31 AM »

That is possibly the worst reasoning ever.

It's essentially Kuturagi's "you will work more" aimed at the development community.

dammitmattt · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:48:15 AM »

Quote from: diunx on January 20, 2009, 10:40:24 AM

Why the hell do they keep asking pr people technical questions? if you go out of their script they will begging to spit nonsense like in this case.

Hirai is not a PR guy

T-Short · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:56:23 AM »

Quote from: Groo on January 20, 2009, 10:37:44 AM

You just don't understand developers, dc. They long to rewrite their graphics engines each iteration, to get the best out of the hardware. Why on earth would they want to finish it all at the start of the generation? They'd be out of jobs for the next 8 years!

Yeah this. If good optimized engines were built at an early stage they'd have to spend all those years focusing on making games

archie4208 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:58:05 AM »

*posts Killzone gif*

Lazy devs

Oblivion · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2009, 02:10:49 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on January 20, 2009, 10:40:31 AM

That is possibly the worst reasoning ever.

It's essentially Kuturagi's "you will work more" aimed at the development community.

PS3: So awesome, you need a second programming job to harness its true power.

Oblivion · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:27:50 PM »

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Top 5 Crazy Things PlayStation Boss Hirai Said Today

Here, in order of craziness, are the top five crazy things that Sony Computer Entertainment chairman and CEO Kaz Hirai said in a new interview with Official UK PlayStation Magazine.

No commentary necessary.

5. "It's difficult to talk about Nintendo because we don't look at their console as being competitors. They're a different world and we operate in our world -- that's kind of the way I look at things."

4. "[Xbox 360] lacks longevity ... Last time I checked, they've never had a console that's been on the market for more than four or five years and we've committed to a ten year life cycle, so you do the math."

3. "Unless things go really bad, there's no way that at the end of a life cycle our competition is going to have a higher install base."

2. "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"

1. "I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry."

http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/01/top-5-crazy-thi.html

Bocsius · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:32:50 PM »

Hirai

Good stuff.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2009, 03:33:52 PM »

Kaz is the new Yamauchi, but without the senility and pimp hand.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:54:03 PM »

You'll need a second job to afford to make games for the PS3.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:17:15 PM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:50:49 PM »

They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

Oblivion · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 20, 2009, 08:50:49 PM

They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

Who, Sony or Sony fans?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:51:38 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on January 20, 2009, 09:22:34 PM

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They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

i think they need to in order to be able to dupe which ever sucker they sell the Playstation brand to in the next few months.

Oh please let it be Sega.

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:53:11 PM »

Quote from: dcharlie on January 20, 2009, 09:22:34 PM

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They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

i think they need to in order to be able to dupe which ever sucker they sell the Playstation brand to in the next few months.

What's this all about?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2009, 10:59:32 PM »

Oh no, the XFE has let the big one slip! Delete this thread instantor demi!

chronovore · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:00:15 AM »

Yeah, I had to laugh when Criterion stated how it was really easy to ship crossplatform by making the PS3 title their lead SKU. Well, duh. Making the more-difficult-to-develop-for-platform the main SKU, and then porting that as min-spec to the easier one is going to be natural.

What is killing me is how many people have taken the opposite approach - make 360 the lead SKU because there are more of them, and then try to port whatever they've got to PS3 to "mop up" xplatform sales. Back-assward.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:23:21 AM »

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They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

Why not, though? This doesn't just go for PS3 but for X360 as well. If Sony or Microsoft were to release a next-gen console in 2011 or 2012 or 2013, would anyone buy it? Even the current generation has had a hard time attracting interest in many markets --- in Japan it still hasn't really caught on, with the only really successful hardware so far being handhelds or last-gen technology --- and for the next gen the situation might be even worse due to diminishing returns etc.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2009, 12:53:48 AM »

Yeah, people would buy it. And for all the hand-wringing about diminishing returns, game companies will be begging the hardware makers for a new batch of consoles. Without new hardware, how would they make everything old new again? (i.e. keep selling us Call of Duty and Rock Band).

Also, the firms are still a long way away from realizing their media hub/online distribution models yet. The consoles we have today are just a transitional step.

Oblivion · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:11:08 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on January 21, 2009, 12:23:21 AM

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They're not seriously sticking to the '10 year life cycle for PS3' line, are they?

Why not, though? This doesn't just go for PS3 but for X360 as well. If Sony or Microsoft were to release a next-gen console in 2011 or 2012 or 2013, would anyone buy it? Even the current generation has had a hard time attracting interest in many markets --- in Japan it still hasn't really caught on, with the only really successful hardware so far being handhelds or last-gen technology --- and for the next gen the situation might be even worse due to diminishing returns etc.

This hasn't stopped hardware manufacturers in the past, why should it start now?

chronovore · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:38:23 AM »

Does Criterion actually do earnings projections before starting work on something? Or are they just skating around as EA's "wacky British comedy" studio?

I can't believe how cool Burnout Paradise is, don't get me wrong. I love it. However, they did the whole "hey, let's add bikes. um... for free!" and there were bikes. And then they said, "Let's add an island... for free!" and then someone noticed that there was no plan to make money from it again, and the residuals coming in off the marked down copies and the Greatest Hits copies were dwindling, and they said "Let's put in an island... but charge for it!"

I can't imagine such an epic undertaking as Burnout Paradise occurring in a vacuum of distinguished mentally-challenged incompetence, but I think the zen of their own business model surpasses even their own understanding.

maxy · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2009, 05:34:51 AM »

Only Sega would be stupid enough to buy PS brand,but it would be pretty funny thing to see

Sega Playstation

maxy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2009, 08:59:29 AM »

Stringer has a lot to do

http://kotaku.com/5136813/sony-planning-headcount-reduction-in-game-music-movie-divisions

tiesto · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2009, 09:04:06 AM »

Is the Riddle of Hirai anything like the Towers of Hanoi?

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2009, 09:06:42 AM »

Yeah, I think proprietary hardware (i.e. high asset specificity) is going the way of the dodo bird. MS made smart hardware decisions 2 generations in a row, ignoring their poor (or complete lack of) quality control on the hardware side.

chronovore · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:30:30 AM »

I suspect they had plenty of hardware QA going on; they just decided it was more important to be first to market. I thought that was stoopid: look at Dreamcast. Turns out I don't know doody.

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