Author Topic: "A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics (Read 1870473 times)

Brehvolution · « **Reply #8400 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:21:02 PM »

I wake of the militias getting busted today, lest we forget:

[youtube=560,345]fL7iY5uarA8[/youtube]

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #8401 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:20:03 PM »

Shepherd Smith

Ichirou · « **Reply #8402 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:29:28 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2010, 03:15:50 PM

was kinda expecting/hoping for the obvious coon-span instead of the boring black-span

I think it's great that he's playing on stereotypes yet he sounds like EXACTLY the type of person I'd imagine would make that call.

Himu · « **Reply #8403 on:** March 30, 2010, 03:57:51 PM »

Was listening to internet radio and saw this ad. Don't usually post in political threads, mostly just lurk, but had to post this.

Mandark · « **Reply #8404 on:** March 30, 2010, 04:12:02 PM »

"Possibly Obama just hates Israel and hates Jews. That’s plausible — certainly nothing in his actions suggests otherwise, really."

- Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds

I remember the early days of political blogs, when he was treated like some evenhanded, centrist referee between left and right. Even now I think he self-describes as an independent libertarian.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8405 on:** March 30, 2010, 05:07:49 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 30, 2010, 04:12:02 PM

Even now I think he self-describes as an independent libertarian.

Whenever I see someone describe themselves as a "independent libertarian" that's my warning signal that 9 times out of 10 they are bat shit insane.

But then I feel the same way generally about Nader-ites.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #8406 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:15:19 PM »

The thing I can't get over with Reynolds is how fucking stupid he always comes off as. How is he a law professor?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8407 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:16:40 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on March 30, 2010, 06:15:19 PM

The thing I can't get over with Reynolds is how fucking stupid he always comes off as. How is he a law professor?

The same way Obama was a constitutional professor

Eric P · « **Reply #8408 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:23:45 PM »

quotas?

no, that doesn't make any sense

Oblivion · « **Reply #8409 on:** March 30, 2010, 06:59:58 PM »

Remember during the Bush administration when something like treason was considered a bad thing? No? Well, neither do these guys.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8410 on:** March 30, 2010, 07:01:55 PM »

Quote

Last time I looked, wanting to start a civil war (insane as it is) was not a crime

dot dot dot

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8411 on:** March 30, 2010, 07:03:44 PM »

Those quotes might as well say "How can you commit treason against an illegitimate government?" Anti-government/president rhetoric has been in existence for ages but it still surprises me how careless and ignorant (and hypocritical) it sounds right now.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #8412 on:** March 30, 2010, 07:04:40 PM »

The Onion says what I've been saying for a long time: let's get rid of the Senate.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8413 on:** March 30, 2010, 07:56:47 PM »

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/is_america_yearning_for_fascism_20100329/ -- a bit OMG DOOMSDAY but some good points nonetheless

Brehvolution · « **Reply #8414 on:** March 30, 2010, 08:45:30 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 30, 2010, 07:56:47 PM

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/is_america_yearning_for_fascism_20100329/ -- a bit OMG DOOMSDAY but some good points nonetheless

Meh. It's easy to say that both parties are of the same corrupt system. Except that it's clearly been defined over the past 30 years that Democrats are willing to tackle pressing social issues while republicans just care about lining their rich buddies' wallets. The enlargement of corporate welfare by the Dem's at least has a positive social effect whereas repubs hold obvious contempt toward the ~90% of Americans.

Boogie · « **Reply #8415 on:** March 30, 2010, 08:46:41 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on March 30, 2010, 06:59:58 PM

Remember during the Bush administration when something like treason was considered a bad thing? No? Well, neither do these guys.

Here's what I say to the conspirators and those apologists. This is going to be vulgar and emotional:

FUCK these murderous, paranoid, FUCKS. You call yourselves Christians? You think you're doing God's work?

God is, at this moment, preparing a very special level of hell for you cuntrags.

It is written "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God", and you, you murderous shitheads thought you were doing righteous work by planning to slaughter them during the most solemn event that exists in their profession? Fuck you

God Bless the FBI, the agents who worked this case, for keeping members of our brotherhood safe, and for doing the work which will hopefully see these slugs rot in prison for the rest of their sad, pathetic lives.

And to those "pundits" in that link, falling all over themselves to politicize and defend and minimize this incident:

Fuck you just as much. I never want to hear the faintest breath out of any of you about "supporting our troops". I don't want to see so much as a gawdamned yellow ribbon on your car. I don't want to hear a word about support for law enforcement from any of you for the rest of your miserable lives, because you're a bunch of snakes who are more concerned with snark and political point-scoring than the gawdamned lives of the people sworn to protect you, and who you would otherwise make vacuous professions of support for.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8416 on:** March 30, 2010, 08:48:24 PM »

boogie

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #8417 on:** March 30, 2010, 08:52:26 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 30, 2010, 07:56:47 PM

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/is_america_yearning_for_fascism_20100329/ -- a bit OMG DOOMSDAY but some good points nonetheless

EHHH

There must be some fallacy related to everyone constantly citing GODDAM POLLS as if its indicative of major reprocussions down the road. Let's not start worrying until there's large groups of people literally starving to death. In the mean time politics is just background noise for the majority of folks.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8418 on:** March 30, 2010, 09:59:16 PM »

The polls only supplement the key indicator, which is the tone of the rhetoric coming from the right. It's unsettling just how alienated this entire segment of the population is. I don't think past economic recessions (or even depressions) have produced this kind of vitriol and distrust in our modern day institutions (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

At the moment it's just not nearly enough people to generate a real threat, which is why I think the author is a bit more alarmed then he really needs to be. The economy is slowly recovering, and is likely to continue to do so, and that will calm things down alot. And hopefully in a couple decades we'll look back and see all this as a bunch of bigoted old fogies mourning the end of their generation.

But yeah, I'm totally down with a New Left, if it comes to that.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #8419 on:** March 30, 2010, 10:45:07 PM »

I just want to know how all these free market people were tricked into protecting a monopoly.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8420 on:** March 30, 2010, 10:47:50 PM »

because GUBMINT!!!!111111one

Oblivion · « **Reply #8421 on:** March 30, 2010, 10:56:41 PM »

How come the teabagger types who are terrified of big government cause of the fear that it might somehow become corrupt and turn into a totalitarian state support increased defense spending? Wouldn't you want the army to not be powerful enough to suppress you?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8422 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:11:32 PM »

because MUSLINS!!!!!!11111one

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8423 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:18:00 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on March 30, 2010, 06:59:58 PM

Remember during the Bush administration when something like treason was considered a bad thing? No? Well, neither do these guys.

Absolutely disgusting.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #8424 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:40:59 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 30, 2010, 09:59:16 PM

The polls only supplement the key indicator, which is the tone of the rhetoric coming from the right. It's unsettling just how alienated this entire segment of the population is. I don't think past economic recessions (or even depressions) have produced this kind of vitriol and distrust in our modern day institutions (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

At the moment it's just not nearly enough people to generate a real threat, which is why I think the author is a bit more alarmed then he really needs to be. The economy is slowly recovering, and is likely to continue to do so, and that will calm things down alot. And hopefully in a couple decades we'll look back and see all this as a bunch of bigoted old fogies mourning the end of their generation.

But yeah, I'm totally down with a New Left, if it comes to that.

I'm down with a new left too. But I think the whole situation is overblown. I'm kinda a reductionist, so all I'm seeing is a bunch of folks unhappy with a black man telling them what to do. They also need a scapegoat for the economic downturn. They have no justifiable rationale to scourn him, so they get spoon fed all the tea bagger talking points and run with it. In their minds its the closest thing they have for legitimising their irrational hatred when its out in public.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #8425 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:49:27 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 30, 2010, 07:01:55 PM

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Last time I looked, wanting to start a civil war (insane as it is) was not a crime
dot dot dot

I think the guy somehow mixed up freedom of speech with secession. and typed that out and saw nothing wrong with it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8426 on:** March 30, 2010, 11:54:13 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 30, 2010, 11:40:59 PM

I'm down with a new left too. But I think the whole situation is overblown. I'm kinda a reductionist, so all I'm seeing is a bunch of folks unhappy with a black man telling them what to do. They also need a scapegoat for the economic downturn. They have no justifiable rationale to scourn him, so they get spoon fed all the tea bagger talking points and run with it. In their minds its the closest thing they have for legitimising their irrational hatred when its out in public.

I'm old and cynical so I feel like I've been hearing variations of the "new left's" we're sick of it and its time to create a real liberal party variation all my life. I respect it I suppose and intellectually I even agree but that's not the way politics works in this country in my lifetime at least. And worse I fear if it was ever to gain any real power all you would end up with is two extremely weak "liberal" parties while Republicans coast their way to victory after victory. Change is slow. Damn slow. I personally always think people want and expect it too fast.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8427 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:29:02 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8428 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:36:06 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 31, 2010, 01:29:02 AM

weird.jpg

They are right though.

Mandark · « **Reply #8429 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:50:58 AM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 30, 2010, 09:59:16 PM

The polls only supplement the key indicator, which is the tone of the rhetoric coming from the right. It's unsettling just how alienated this entire segment of the population is. I don't think past economic recessions (or even depressions) have produced this kind of vitriol and distrust in our modern day institutions (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

It's as American as apple pie. I remember the early 90's being fairly crazy too, though we didn't have Youtube and camera phones to document it quite as well.

What's interesting to me about that truthdig piece is how little you'd need to change to make it a David Brooks op-ed.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8430 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:53:14 AM »

david brooks doesn't have a monopoly on handwringing -- in fact, for awhile, it was the exclusive domain of lefty pundits! (then david frum caught the virus.)

Mandark · « **Reply #8431 on:** March 31, 2010, 02:25:21 AM »

It's the specific type of handwringing though.

"The displays of inchoate anger, along with poll numbers showing disapproval of the government, are a direct result of the government's failure. Both parties are equally culpable, mired as they are in a stale left-right paradigm, and the people yearn for a new political movement that will coincidentally reflect my own preferences."

Hedges seems to want a socialist utopia, while Brooks wants a government based on the Lieberman-McCain bromance which would presumably deregulate corporations and build giant-ass statues of Edmund Burke. But they agree on how we're gonna get there: magical thinking!

Tristam · « **Reply #8432 on:** March 31, 2010, 10:09:52 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 30, 2010, 07:56:47 PM

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/is_america_yearning_for_fascism_20100329/ -- a bit OMG DOOMSDAY but some good points nonetheless

As a college-educated liberal (part of a demographic he suggests ought to shoulder a large share of the blame?) I hold myself unaccountable for the stupidity, racism, and potential violence of right-wing extremists and Tea Party nutbags.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8433 on:** March 31, 2010, 12:26:12 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 31, 2010, 01:50:58 AM

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 30, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
The polls only supplement the key indicator, which is the tone of the rhetoric coming from the right. It's unsettling just how alienated this entire segment of the population is. I don't think past economic recessions (or even depressions) have produced this kind of vitriol and distrust in our modern day institutions (although I'd be happy to be proven wrong).

It's as American as apple pie.

Thanks. This article owns.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #8434 on:** March 31, 2010, 12:33:11 PM »

DRILL BABY DRILL

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8435 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:08:52 PM »

republicans don't like the plan. shocking development!

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8436 on:** March 31, 2010, 01:41:30 PM »

http://twitter.com/llcoolj/status/11344726168

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Fox lifted an old interview I gave in 2008 to someone else & are misrepresenting to the public in order to promote Sarah Palins Show. WOW

Brehvolution · « **Reply #8437 on:** March 31, 2010, 02:23:58 PM »

[youtube=560,345]PP0AY4PNVlg[/youtube]

Eric P · « **Reply #8438 on:** March 31, 2010, 02:24:04 PM »

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8439 on:** March 31, 2010, 02:39:16 PM »

says it all really.

Robo · « **Reply #8440 on:** March 31, 2010, 03:10:59 PM »

too much boob; couldn't read

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8441 on:** March 31, 2010, 05:25:46 PM »

RoboJ AVATAR lovin' fur-cigarillo confirmed.

Robo · « **Reply #8442 on:** March 31, 2010, 05:44:31 PM »

Real talk: if I were to rank the races, I'd put blues at the bottom.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Greens at the top.

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brawndolicious · « **Reply #8443 on:** March 31, 2010, 05:50:59 PM »

Well green skin means that it absorbs blue and red light. So she's probably attracted to either Jake Sully or Hell Boy. The train of thought has left.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8444 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:49:13 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 31, 2010, 01:41:30 PM

http://twitter.com/llcoolj/status/11344726168

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Fox lifted an old interview I gave in 2008 to someone else & are misrepresenting to the public in order to promote Sarah Palins Show. WOW

Even Tobey Keith is slamming this shit
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/toby-keith-also-backs-away-from-sarah-palins-fox-news-special.php?ref=fpb

smh

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #8445 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:57:59 AM »

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Real American Stories features uplifting tales about overcoming adversity and we believe Mr. Smith's interview fit that criteria. However, as it appears that Mr. Smith does not want to be associated with a program that could serve as an inspiration to others, we are cutting his interview from the special and wish him the best with his fledgling acting career.

LL Cool J ethered :'(

Ichirou · « **Reply #8446 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:26:29 AM »

Palin warns of 'Second Holocaust' if Iran gains nuclear weapons

Washington (CNN) – Just minutes after the clock expired on the first day of Passover, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin issued a biting critique of the Obama administration's Middle-East policy via her Facebook page.

In a post entitled "Peace Not Possible if Iran Escapes Real Sanctions," Palin accuses President Obama of dropping the pursuit of "crippling" sanctions against Iran and treating Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu like an "unwelcome guest" during a recent visit to Washington.

"[J]ust as the Obama administration inexplicably gives up on imposing crippling sanctions on Iran, it's taken an uncompromising hard line against one country in the Middle East: Israel," Palin writes. "On his recent visit to Washington, the Israeli Prime Minister was treated like an unwelcome guest, as shown by White House actions such as refusing to be photographed with Israel's Prime Minister."

Palin argues that the Obama administration's actions have failed to rein in Tehran's nuclear ambitions, and that more than one year into Obama's presidency, his administration has made "no progress" on sanctions.

"The Obama administration has their priorities exactly backwards; we should be working with our friend and democratic ally to stop Iran's nuclear program, not throwing in the towel on sanctions while treating Israel like an enemy."

Palin warns that the consequences of a nuclear Iran would be devastating for Israel.

"Iran's leaders have repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and with nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them, the mullahs would be in a position to launch a Second Holocaust," Palin writes.

"We foresee a regional nuclear arms race beginning as other countries seek their own nuclear weapons to protect themselves from Iran. Nuclear non-proliferation efforts would be over," she added.

Last week, President Obama met at the White House with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a meeting that was closed to the press. Netanyahu also met with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Vice President Joe Biden during his trip to Washington.

The Israeli leader met with administration officials after a show of solidarity with leaders of Congress from both parties, during which he thanked the U.S. lawmakers for their "constant support" and "unflagging" friendship.

Netanyahu's visit came amid a row over Israel's decision to build new Jewish housing on disputed land in East Jerusalem.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #8447 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:33:57 AM »

that would be more troubling if I didn't have the nagging feeling that Sarah Palin would actually really like a second Holocaust.

If only it could be targeted at people darker then Jews, and it'd be perfect.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8448 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:38:27 AM »

Sarah Palin believes that part of the requirements for making the end days come about involves having Jews in Israel; it's the entire basis of her crazy support for the state. Hagee thinks the same thing; remember when he got into deep shit during the election for saying that Hitler was an agent of the lord or whatever for helping get Jews back to Israel? Yeah, there you go.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8449 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:40:51 AM »

Which is hilarious because the bible is pretty clear on the whole "dudes, no one knows when the rapture is gonna happen so chill out" front.

The idea that Obama is treating Israel like an enemy is ridiculous. Too bad we can't just cut all foreign aid for a year, and tell them they can get back on 'murica welfare a few months after they make some progress with the Palestinians. But that'll never happen.

Ichirou · « **Reply #8450 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:42:01 AM »

I just find it lulzy that Sarah Palin is criticizing Obama on foreign policy. This from a woman who never even traveled outside the United States until the presidential elections.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8451 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:47:07 AM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on April 01, 2010, 12:57:59 AM

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Real American Stories features uplifting tales about overcoming adversity and we believe Mr. Smith's interview fit that criteria. However, as it appears that Mr. Smith does not want to be associated with a program that could serve as an inspiration to others, we are cutting his interview from the special and wish him the best with his fledgling acting career.
LL Cool J ethered :'(

Fox News. Truly the network of emulating your bitchy younger sister.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8452 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:51:05 AM »

As far as the Israel stuff its to be expected. Republicans (and unfortunately a healthy number of dumb-ass democrats) treat any hint of anything approaching criticism of Israel as the worst sort of antisemitism.

It's simply a political football issue.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #8453 on:** April 01, 2010, 03:20:53 AM »

now Toby Keith is raising hackles over getting the LL Cool J treatment on Palin's show. They pulled the same trick with him.

Crikey, they've gotta be paying that moose nugget connosiour a fat sack of cash, couldn't Fox have spent just a little money on actually producing her program?

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #8454 on:** April 01, 2010, 07:23:40 AM »

Even if Israel talk has always been slightly skewed by people not wanting to say what they'd say about any other country, goddamn the dumb has ratcheted up lately.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #8455 on:** April 01, 2010, 11:53:59 AM »

jaydubya

Brehvolution · « **Reply #8456 on:** April 01, 2010, 11:54:19 AM »

I never thought I'd do this, but:

Bill O'Riley

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #8457 on:** April 01, 2010, 11:56:00 AM »

Quote from: Mamacint on April 01, 2010, 07:23:40 AM

Even if Israel talk has always been slightly skewed by people not wanting to say what they'd say about any other country, goddamn the dumb has ratcheted up lately.

After 9/11 any issue remotely related to "defense" has had the dumb quotient ratcheted up immensely. Israel is just such an issue.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #8458 on:** April 01, 2010, 12:30:16 PM »

Israel is a whole separate bag of donuts imo. Not only do you get slammed for being "soft on turrists" if you don't want to continue unilaterally supporting Israel and encouraging them to blow people up over there, you get called an anti-semite if you say that hey, maybe it would be cool if Israel didn't shoot unarmed women and children in Gaza.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8459 on:** April 01, 2010, 01:58:58 PM »

I'm going to fucking hurl
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/mixed-message-party-bucking-blanche-lincoln-boasts-of-helping-obama-to-black-audience.php

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Author Topic: "A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics (Read 1870473 times)