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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3120 on: April 01, 2009, 06:24:06 PM »
Yeah, DiFi is running for guv probably and probably wants to separate herself from the rest of the (stereotypically Cali liberal) pack in the primary.  At least that's what Nate Silver thinks this means.

Also, these are Democrats- of course they're gonna press for big, sweeping legislation like EFCA when they know it has no chance of being signed into law, but will waffle and prevaricate when they could actually, you know, DO it.
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« Reply #3121 on: April 01, 2009, 06:26:45 PM »
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A trio of actors from the "West Wing" TV show took aim at Specter's decision Tuesday at a press conference to promote the bill. Bradley Whitford, who played Josh Lyman on the NBC show, said Specter took the easy way out.

"He is down 15 points in polling, coming from the right in the Republican primary," Whitford said.

"You cannot allow compromise on the fundamental right of workers to actually be able to form a union. It's disappointing. It sounds to me like he's more worried about his job than his constituents' jobs."

Asked if they had met with Feinstein to learn her concerns, the actors said no such meeting had been arranged.

"But we would welcome that opportunity," said actor Martin Sheen, who portrayed President Josiah Bartlet on the show.

this part is an april fool's gag, correct?
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3122 on: April 01, 2009, 06:29:51 PM »
I wouldn't exactly call Feinstein a liberal.

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« Reply #3123 on: April 01, 2009, 06:32:49 PM »
nevermind, i see that it is real

someone needs to tell these people that they're not even pretend politicians anymore
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3124 on: April 01, 2009, 06:33:45 PM »
nevermind, i see that it is real

someone needs to tell these people that they're not even pretend politicians anymore

No, but as union members I think they have a stake in the discussions.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3125 on: April 01, 2009, 06:36:10 PM »
it's the whole "we want to meet with her" bullshit
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« Reply #3126 on: April 01, 2009, 06:46:32 PM »
it's the whole "we want to meet with her" bullshit

Yeah, that's pretty lame.

However, Democratic politicians like to use celebs' popularity in photo ops and campaigns (see:  Brad Pitt meeting with Nancy Pelosi a couple weeks ago, Springsteen campaigning for Kerry and Obama) so a two way street isn't out of the realm of feasibility.  Also, they're probably her constituents.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3127 on: April 01, 2009, 07:39:34 PM »
How would that get us out of a recession

how

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« Reply #3128 on: April 01, 2009, 08:09:07 PM »
btw, I'm digging the Richard Schiff avatar, Triumph.  :rock
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« Reply #3129 on: April 01, 2009, 08:22:54 PM »
btw, I'm digging the Richard Schiff avatar, Triumph.  :rock

Toby Ziegler is my hero.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3130 on: April 02, 2009, 04:36:42 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html
omfg :lol

First time I've seen those Beck clips. Holy shit
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« Reply #3131 on: April 02, 2009, 06:44:06 AM »
:bow James Wolcott :bow2

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What’s Wrong with Washington?
Washington has always been out of sync with the rest of America, but since Obama’s election, Beltway pundits seem more stubbornly and stupendously irrelevant than ever. Have three decades of being wired for Republican power blown their jittery, Twittering minds?
by James Wolcott May 2009

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In the first weeks of the Obama administration, “bipartisanship” was the reigning buzzword, and when the Beltway thinks bipartisan, it pictures President Reagan and Democratic Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill putting aside their differences and forging a legislative partnership, a ruddy pair of genial patriarchs bonding over the Blarney Stone. (Their Sunshine Boys routine supplies the first point of reference for nearly every stream of consciousness Sam Donaldson wades into on This Week.) If only the ghosts of the Gipper and the Tipper could inspire similar outreaches across the aisle, pined the Beltway oracles, playing matchmaker. When the newly elected Obama was assembling his Cabinet, Time reporter Karen Tumulty, writing for the magazine’s Swampland blog, offered “an out-of-the-box suggestion” for who should become health-and-human-services secretary—former Republican governor and candidate Mitt Romney, that aerosol can that couldn’t. As with so many who pride themselves on thinking outside the box, Tumulty would have been better off closing the cardboard flaps instead. Such stunt-casting would have dashed any hopes of a political future for Romney within the Republican Party against the jagged rocks, and stuck the Obama administration with a possible prima donna, violating its no-drama edict. Throwing Romney’s name into the hopper reflected the fetish that Washington entertains for a centrism that converts everything to mush.

At his Trail Mix blog at Congressional Quarterly’s site, Craig Crawford ventured even farther outside the box—and into the ozone—to unveil his own magic pick for H.H.S. secretary: Mr. Flour Power himself, Newt Gingrich. Anticipating the rhubarb this selection would provoke, Crawford wrote:

       Now before you lefties have a collective heart attack, think about it. Something as big as overhauling our entire health care system will be tougher to get done on a purely partisan basis. There are Republicans who want to play.
       As much as it would infuriate liberals, picking Gingrich would be a hyper-bipartisan move.

Only within the Beltway popcorn popper could Gingrich, whose serpent tongue and ogre ego did so much to polarize discourse in the 1990s and abort reform, be considered a foxy catch. Only in Washington, D.C., could Gingrich, a magpie of futurist jargon and a bumptious opportunist, pass himself off as an iconoclastic force and centrifuge of ideas, a cross between Buckminster Fuller and Che Guevara leading a commando raid on the buffet table. And only within the punditocracy could “hyper-bipartisan” be bandied about as an aphrodisiac.

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With the election of Obama and the identity branding of MSNBC as an anti–Fox News Justice League, there is some evidence of rewiring taking place, certain clusters of once-firing neurons falling dormant. Webmeister Matt Drudge’s bugle calls no longer send the media swinging from the monkey bars; hardy and unrepentant, radio host Rush Limbaugh has been re-inflated for one last hurrah, hogging the spotlight until the glow of his fancy cigar is finally extinguished; Ann Coulter has whittled down into a novelty act; the neoconservatives, whose virile rhetoric helped dig so many graves in the Bush era, grace us by their absence; the policy wonks fielded by the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute give off less of a power hum. (If anything, it’s Wall Street rather than Washington, D.C., that seems wired Republican down to the slightest twitch, with CNBC serving as the conning tower of supply-siders, flat-taxers, Laffer-curve zealots, Reaganauts, hedge-fund ringmasters, and deposed Masters of the Universe who defend corporate interests and decry labor to the last drop of their protein shakes.) As Tucker Carlson pointed out at this February’s annual cpac (Conservative Political Action Conference), in Washington, D.C., so much of the tomahawk fever mobilizing the conservative movement since 1992 was raw, unrefined Clinton hatred—a visceral loathing that transcended doctrinal differences and fused Billary into a burning focal point. Obama doesn’t rouse the same foaming action, except in fringe, nativist, gun-toting-Jesus blogs buried so deep in the reeds of the Internet swamp that even Fox News bookers wouldn’t handle them with sterilized tongs. The trillionaire spending sluicing through the system will flood the defenses of the permanent lobbying-consulting-appropriations apparatus, shifting the sandbars and the magnetic fields of Washington influence. (In 1993, Clinton couldn’t get a $16 billion stimulus bill passed through Congress.) To be wired Republican when the agenda is being set by the Obama–Rahm Emanuel muscle machine is to risk being dial-up in a broadband era, a dinky holdover.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3132 on: April 02, 2009, 09:52:43 AM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html
omfg :lol

First time I've seen those Beck clips. Holy shit

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That Beck guy is fucking awesome...had never seen him before.  He is a tragedy waiting to happen.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3133 on: April 02, 2009, 11:58:54 AM »
Nothing like changing the accounting rules midstream so the foxes can begin guarding the hen house. Now us taxpayers will be on the hook for even more when these assets are sold for a far higher value than they otherwise would have been.

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« Reply #3134 on: April 02, 2009, 01:18:22 PM »
yeah the new calvinball accounting they adopted really eases pressure on the banks by allowing them to prevent write-downs, but at the same time is awful for investors trying to evaluate the worth of the company. Not a huge fan of the move.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3135 on: April 02, 2009, 01:43:32 PM »
The economy business confuses me.  :-\
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« Reply #3136 on: April 02, 2009, 01:52:09 PM »
if you ever wanted to members of the house and senate like john thune, bob casey...etc play basketball you have your wish:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20804.html

holy shit they are TERRIBLE at this. almost painful.

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« Reply #3137 on: April 02, 2009, 02:30:01 PM »
The economy business confuses me.  :-\

This morning they changed the accounting rules for asset valuation. Previously, assets had to be valued at the price the market will bear. But, this put tremendous pressure on the banks' capital structure because they were constantly having to write down the value of their toxic assets. It was making them insolvent on paper. Now, under the new rules, the banks don't have to do that. They can basically value these assets as they wish. So, we have to trust the people who got us in this mess to accurately value their own toxic assets. The market loves it of course because now the banks can suddenly be made solvent. It amounts to government encouraged lack of transparency. There's probably more intricacies than that, but its the basic jist of the situation.

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« Reply #3138 on: April 02, 2009, 04:45:20 PM »
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3139 on: April 02, 2009, 05:23:30 PM »
The problem with mark to market rules is it doesn't account for situations like the one we are in right now.  The changes might be necessary short term so banks aren't crushed underneath the wight of assets that might have value but are essentially valueless, but I hope (lord I hope) that this is only temporary and that real regulation will follow to fix the underlying cause of the problem.

My problem is that they really seem uninterested in taking the problem to the root. They seem happy enough to prop up a system that they mostly know is disfunctional but aren't willing to offer up alternatives that might actually reshape the system into some workable.

Seems like this is just the first turn on the merry-go-round, more times to follow.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3140 on: April 02, 2009, 06:40:26 PM »
http://us1.institutionalriskanalytics.com/pub/IRAstory.asp?tag=351

Make sure you're sitting down before reading that.

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« Reply #3141 on: April 02, 2009, 07:33:30 PM »
well, assuming that's largely an accurate assessment and not wonk hysteria, then the streets really SHOULD run red with the blood of the heads of our financial enterprises and all the deregulators that enabled them.
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« Reply #3142 on: April 02, 2009, 07:50:36 PM »
That article is poorly sourced enough for me to chalk it up to wonk hysteria.
not only that, look at the main page. It looks like it was built with some geocities site builder. Full of giant ads and weird cookie cutter images.

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« Reply #3143 on: April 02, 2009, 07:52:35 PM »
http://us1.institutionalriskanalytics.com/pub/IRAstory.asp?tag=351

Make sure you're sitting down before reading that.

My tinfoil hat theory vindicated.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3144 on: April 02, 2009, 07:55:39 PM »
The coming years are gonna be tough for sd- he's already linking to crackpot sites and attending "tea parties", just imagine what he'll be like when the economy REALLY starts turning around and Obama gets credit for it.  I predict he and FoC go Galt together.
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« Reply #3145 on: April 02, 2009, 07:57:07 PM »
Yeah, if the recession turns around late this year or next year, and Obama gets the credit for it, I imagine those two will move to Burma or something.
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« Reply #3146 on: April 02, 2009, 07:59:48 PM »
My only problem is that we already have the right-wing tards getting the vapors over relatively minor events.

If they're actually willing to "go Galt" over pretty moderate policies, why not take them up on it and go for the gold? Go for some real necessary changes.
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« Reply #3148 on: April 02, 2009, 10:45:58 PM »
So what does everyone think about this whole Obama saving the day between France and China.

Sarkozy and the China guy were screaming at each other about some tax haven thing and Obama walked over to them and took them to a corner and mediated a deal between 'em.


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« Reply #3149 on: April 02, 2009, 11:03:31 PM »
I'm kind of amazed by the whole G-20 thing in general.  Sarkozy and other European states heads were barking all week that they weren't going to take what Obama was selling, they weren't going to drink the Obama kool-aid, walking out, etc.

He stepped up in the international spotlight and made a strong democratic debut.

I like having a President that everyone doesn't hate! :rock
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3150 on: April 02, 2009, 11:23:48 PM »
yes but IS HE A SOCIALIST?  WELL FIND OUT AFTER THE BREAK
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« Reply #3151 on: April 02, 2009, 11:47:52 PM »
Yeah, I mean this image pretty much sums up the European leaders reaction to him:


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« Reply #3152 on: April 02, 2009, 11:48:23 PM »
"we can't be racist.  we have black president friend"
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« Reply #3153 on: April 02, 2009, 11:57:58 PM »
Yeah, I mean this image pretty much sums up the European leaders reaction to him:
(Image removed from quote.)

Haha, if there ever was a picture that epitomized, "Thank God you're here and not the other guy!"
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« Reply #3154 on: April 03, 2009, 12:05:23 AM »
That article is poorly sourced enough for me to chalk it up to wonk hysteria.

Maybe. But, with what has transpired so far is it really that far out of the realm of possibilities that there were side letters and the defaults were never intended to be covered?

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Done.

Black President gettin' things done. :rock
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This is the era of Obama! Hope! Change!
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Rapin' bitches and poppin poppy seeds. Sounds like a land of opportunity financially and sexually.
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Oops, you got a boner on national tv.



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I think you posted in the wrong topic, Toxy. :lol
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WTF? this isn't the outside links thread! where am I?
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 :lol

Oh well .. maybe it's more fitting for this thread.


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« Reply #3164 on: April 03, 2009, 02:09:48 AM »
Cliff Notes for sd's posts in this thread:

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3165 on: April 03, 2009, 02:38:23 AM »
Yeah, I mean this image pretty much sums up the European leaders reaction to him:
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Yeah some of you need to read up on international affairs. Berlusconi would be an awesome drinking buddy and not much else. And the Russians eh.

All smiles fro the camera now but we'll see what happens when the shit hits the fan. Hopefully Obama's charm and rationale still prevails.
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Berlusconi  is a very bad man, and the russian.... So much deception in that picture, it's mindblowing.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #3167 on: April 03, 2009, 08:35:28 AM »
Yeah, I mean this image pretty much sums up the European leaders reaction to him:
(Image removed from quote.)

Yeah some of you need to read up on international affairs. Berlusconi would be an awesome drinking buddy and not much else. And the Russians eh.

All smiles fro the camera now but we'll see what happens when the shit hits the fan. Hopefully Obama's charm and rationale still prevails.

I'm pretty sure he's aware of all of their drawbacks, but what's the harm on putting on a charm offensive? If he wants to play hardball later he's just in a better position to do it.
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Jobs Report:

March -663k
Unemployment rate 8.5%

Jan revised down from -655K to -741k
No February revision


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Jobs Report:

March -663k
Unemployment rate 8.5%

Jan revised down from -655K to -741k
No February revision


The economy is looking somewhat up lately, seems we've already seen the bottom, most reports show improvement. Job reports always lag. I've noticed that is becoming the general consensus as of late, that things are starting to seem to be getting better.

CARLA BRUNI. :heart. I love how you see the french public in the background fawning over Obama, such a difference from Bush.




Oh and Obama is doing a town hall right now IN FRANCE. The French public are asking him questions.  :lol


Oh and the Russian President calls Obama his comrade and says he is way easier to deal with than Bush:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090403/twl-russia-us-g20-diplomacy-missile-7e07afd.html

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Obama is a smooth International pimp! :rock
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you just KNOW he's fucked all their wives at the post-convention swingers party
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Prole, what's your feeling on the auto industry stuff floating around?  This prearranged bankruptcy sounds like it could make things even worse for GM and Chrysler.  I'm almost leaning towards letting the two companies fail - keeping them around almost seem putting a band aid on a cut off stump at this point.  At least maybe Ford might see a boost in sales (eventually) from the implosion of its rivals.
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Michelle Malkin is outraged about that, Jinfash.

Saudi king is a douche, but I guess Obama is just playing politics.  Pfft.
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STRASBOURG, France — French President Nicolas Sarkozy offered enthusiastic support for U.S. President Barack Obama’s new strategy in Afghanistan, saying his country was preparing to do more to help the alliance fight there.

Sarkozy told a joint news conference after talks with Obama today that France totally endorses and supports America’s new strategy in Afghanistan.

Sarkozy added France is prepared to do more in terms of police training and is helping Afghanistan rebuild.

... did Michelle blow Sarkozy?  He's like our best friend now.

Also, did Obama hit that Bruni broad?  Hottest politician's wife ever.
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Let's nuke 'em!
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STRASBOURG, France — French President Nicolas Sarkozy offered enthusiastic support for U.S. President Barack Obama’s new strategy in Afghanistan, saying his country was preparing to do more to help the alliance fight there.

Sarkozy told a joint news conference after talks with Obama today that France totally endorses and supports America’s new strategy in Afghanistan.

Sarkozy added France is prepared to do more in terms of police training and is helping Afghanistan rebuild.

... did Michelle blow Sarkozy?  He's like our best friend now.

Also, did Obama hit that Bruni broad?  Hottest politician's wife ever.

:bow Obama :bow2

I wish I could peek into an alternative universe and see the proceedings with McCain in charge

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McCain would be dead by now - Palin would be overseas, confused and befuddled by Sarkozy's accent.  Then she'd ban french fries again, because those aren't American.
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Damn, germans are waving american flags outside where Obama is in Germany right now.  :lol Almost as weird as when the french were going gaga over Obama during the townhall in the morning in France.

I don't know if I am ever going to get used to Europeans fawning over America, this just doesn't feel right.

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Michelle Malkin is outraged about that, Jinfash.

Saudi king is a douche, but I guess Obama is just playing politics.  Pfft.

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When JWF sent a link to the photo with Obama bent down like a serf (further than either he or Michelle dipped for Queen Elizabeth, by the way)
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Amazing. Isn't this holding hands/bowing stuff more cultural respect than fawning? It's like saying kissing cheek to cheek is gay
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