OMG! NPD!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

ROFL

PlayStation 2 131K
PlayStation 3 276K
PSP 199K
Xbox 360 391K
Wii 753K
Nintendo DS 588K


Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (WII) 644K
Street Fighter IV* (360) 446K
Street Fighter IV* (PS3) 403K
Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) 386K
Killzone 2 (PS3) 323K
Wii Mario Kart with wheel (WII) 263K
Call of Duty: World at War* (360) 193K
Mario Kart DS (NDS) 145K
New Super Mario Bros (NDS) 144K
Guitar Hero World Tour* (WII) 136K

Failzone 2 confirmed

[duckman2000]

As said in the outside link thread, isn't that sort of crazy good considering the platform and the release date? Not to mention the marketing, but even without taking that into account, what do PS3 exclusives typically sell?

[cool breeze]

SFIV did way better than I expected

[duckman2000]

Jesus fucking Christ at Wiifit. 

[Mr. Gundam]

SO4 bomba.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

PS3 was the only system that declined from the previous year.  LOL.

Yeah SO4 must have tanked, doing 135k or lower.

[demi]

I dont think anyone expected SO4 to chart. Which is good. Game is crap

[Oblivion]

Well Killzone 2 did better than LBP's first run (only had 4 days to get 200k I believe). But like LBP, it should plummet by the next month.

[archie4208]

STREET FIGHTER

[Junpei the Tracer!]

Star Ocean  :'(

[Van Cruncheon]

killzone 2 released; america sees sub-re5 visuals and tired motif and goes "meh"

[Rman]

Great news for fighting fans.

[Jansen]

ROFL
Street Fighter IV* (360) 446K
Street Fighter IV* (PS3) 403K

This game will bomb.  Just wait until there is a fire sale somewhere in a couple of months and get a good stick for cheap

 

[Oblivion]

Great news for fighting fans.

There was never any reason to worry. Smash Bros. Brawl didn't bomb either, after all.

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[pilonv1]

Hey remember when people said "it was only out 10hrs" for LBP, remember how that went next month?

SF4

[pilonv1]

Feb 2008

PlayStation 2 351.8K
PlayStation 3 280.8K
PlayStation Portable 243.1K
Xbox 360 254.6K
Nintendo DS 587.6K
Wii 432K

[tiesto]

Fucking sucks SO4 tanked, that's my favorite 360 game...

But it's nice to see SF4 do well.

[archie4208]

Great news for fighting fans.

There was never any reason to worry. Smash Bros. Brawl didn't bomb either, after all.

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Brawl

[tiesto]

I dont think anyone expected SO4 to chart. Which is good. Game is crap

50 cent didn't chart either.  

[Mr. Gundam]

Great news for fighting fans.

I think it says more about people's fond memories of Street Fighter, and less for fighting games in general. This will ring true when Blaz Blue and KOFXII tank this summer.

[pilonv1]

50 cent didn't chart either. 

sales =! quality

[demi]

I dont think anyone expected SO4 to chart. Which is good. Game is crap

50 cent didn't chart either.  

I didn't expect that to chart either

[Human Snorenado]

ROFL
Street Fighter IV* (360) 446K
Street Fighter IV* (PS3) 403K

This game will bomb.  Just wait until there is a fire sale somewhere in a couple of months and get a good stick for cheap

 

I came in here to post this, but I'll just quote you instead.

Also, where is that high quality gaming experience Wii Music on the chart?

[Jansen]

don't worry guys killzone 2 will be a slow burner just like little big planet!

[pilonv1]

[WrikaWrek]

As said in the outside link thread, isn't that sort of crazy good considering the platform and the release date? Not to mention the marketing, but even without taking that into account, what do PS3 exclusives typically sell?

I don't care anymore, and the number seems fine to me. But...crazy good? Didn't you used to compare this to Gears of War 2 sales potential?

Is this even close?

[WrikaWrek]

Gears came out nov 7, someone do the maths

?

Uh, i'm talking for the same time period. I mean, it's certainly no halo. So the "halo killer" label is out of the question. But you know, next month will tell the tale i guess.

I bet my dusty Wii on RES5 murdering Kz2.

[Bebpo]

More PS3 owners bought SF than Killzone, lol.

I think this just shows that Sony marketing fucking sucks.  I mean when have they actually marketed a game so well it sells millions in the last few years?  They need to fire everyone in marketing and get a new department.  

I'm 100% convinced that marketing is all that games need to sell well this generation (outside occasional word of mouth title like some Wii shovelware).  Capcom marketed SFIV very, very well and suddenly everyone and their moms whose never played a fighting game in their life wanted a piece of it.  

[cool breeze]

there are only two PS3 games I would expect to sell well: God of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 (in 2011 lol)

doubt Uncharted 2, Infamous or anything else will really top sales like anything Nintendo or Microsoft puts out, but I don't really care that much.  PS3 will continue to slowly fail while providing games I enjoy, and like the gamecube, Sony might rethink the next console.  I just hope that the next system isn't as poor as the Wii.  I'm hoping for a them to get fully behind a PSP2.

[WrikaWrek]

I actually thought the Ps3 numbers were good. But apparently the system is down YoY.

[Rman]

I agree about KZ2, Bebpo.  It is almost as Sony doesn't now how to generate hype, both Nintendo and MS have run a clinic on marketing this gen--Nintendo with the alpha mom stuff and MS with the hardcore stuff--Gears, Halo 3, Gears 2, while SCE just keeps putting on horrible campaigns.

[Oblivion]

I can't believe that before the announcement of SFIV people thought that capcom shouldn't even bother with the series, and don't get me started on how everyone reacted when it was announced that it's gonna be in 3D.

Capcom

Didn't SF3 sell like absolute shite, tho? I remember seeing it did just a few hundred thousand. Or that might have just been the PSP version.

[archie4208]

Considering SF3 had a Dreamcast (lol) and PS2/Xbox compilation release, I'm not surprised it sold like shit. 

[pilonv1]

Sony's game lineup really only sells to people who already have a PS3.

Their PS2 lineup was different because they had products like Singstar, Buzz, Eye Toy, Ratchet, Jak etc.. which were unlike anything else available elsewhere.

Now Nintendo has taken their social gaming, Microsoft took their core gaming segment, and now they've only got a price drop left to spike interest. Which it should do quite well, but leaving it this late really makes things tough

[Phoenix Dark]

bububu KZ2 was only out a couple days

 

[duckman2000]

As said in the outside link thread, isn't that sort of crazy good considering the platform and the release date? Not to mention the marketing, but even without taking that into account, what do PS3 exclusives typically sell?

I don't care anymore, and the number seems fine to me. But...crazy good? Didn't you used to compare this to Gears of War 2 sales potential?

Is this even close?

Yeah well, that was back when I thought Sony would get it together on the marketing end of things. That has obviously not happened. Maybe the PS3 owners never had it in them to make it a big hit, but shit marketing hasn't helped. Given the variables, I really don't see how this isn't a pretty damned good number for a PS3 exclusive. Did Uncharted even sell that much in the whole month it was out? I expected KZ2 to make a bigger splash given how marketable it is, but then that assumes that this marketability would be taken advantage of.

Sony's game lineup really only sells to people who already have a PS3.

Even that is not true, you know. For one, the system seller deal doesn't seem to be a realistic factor these days. But PS3 games don't even sell to existing PS3 owners. We'll see where the game lands (especially worldwide, given the differences in marketing of the game here and there), but over 300k in a few days seems to be far above the norm.

[archie4208]

Haha I just realized none of the "core" 3rd party Wii games (HOTD, Deadly Creatures, etc) charted.  I bet Mad World doesn't chart in March.  Have fun with your waggle minigames nintards.

[Grecco]

Im stunned, that people are actually thinking those KZ numbers are good. Stunned.


Sony dropped the ball so bad with KZ.

[Joe Molotov]

WiiFit, more like WiiFad, amirite?

[duckman2000]

Im stunned, that people are actually thinking those KZ numbers are good. Stunned.


Sony dropped the ball so bad with KZ.

Given historical precedence, it's good. But yes, they dropped the ball on marketing. Which is a shame, because the game is actually good, too.

[Grecco]

Historical presedence?

there hasnt been a PS3 game this hyped, and probably this expensive (maybe MGS4)

if it doesnt even end up outselling Resistance 2 it will be a stunning faliure imo.

KZ1 if im not mistaken was a million selling franchise on PS2.

[demi]

WiiFit, more like WiiFad, amirite?

NO MONEY NO MONEY

[duckman2000]

Historical presedence?

there hasnt been a PS3 game this hyped, and probably this expensive (maybe MGS4)

if it doesnt even end up outselling Resistance 2 it will be a stunning faliure imo.

It will. And as I recall, KZ1 was only ever a big game in Europe, and I don't think it sold 300k in a couple of days. But realistically, I could see KZ1 working against the sequel.

[treythemovie]

Given the variables, I really don't see how this isn't a pretty damned good number for a PS3 exclusive.

Given the variables, I really don't see how this isn't a pretty damned good number for a Gamecube third-party game.

Haha I just realized none of the "core" 3rd party Wii games (HOTD, Deadly Creatures, etc) charted.  I bet Mad World doesn't chart in March.  Have fun with your waggle minigames nintards.

Who expected either of those to chart? Star Ocean, HOTD, etc, expecting any of them to chart is basically expecting them to beat out Ninty casual flood. Ever since the Nintendomination began the NPD top 10 has been mostly useless in telling what bombed or not.

[Draft]

KZ2 sales are good, when viewed in the context of KZ2 being an average FPS in a market glutted with FPS and exclusive to a tanking system.

[Great Rumbler]

Who expected either of those to chart? Star Ocean, HOTD, etc, expecting any of them to chart is basically expecting them to beat out Ninty casual flood. Ever since the Nintendomination began the NPD top 10 has been mostly useless in telling what bombed or not.

Not saying that those games didn't bomb, but the Wii has had some slow boilers that sold well but never made it into the top ten.

[duckman2000]

KZ2 sales are good, when viewed in the context of KZ2 being an average FPS in a market glutted with FPS and exclusive to a tanking system.

I obviously disagree with it being merely average, but to potential buyers, yeah, it's probably just one more shooter among many. On an expensive system. It still should have sold to the existing userbase, but I guess if many of them were fans of the PS2 still hoping that the PS3 will have similar games, a game like this probably isn't so attractive.

Still, it seems odd to cut on marketing when you've already pumped tens of millions of dollars into the game.

[Oblivion]

Meh, Sony will still send out a press release saying that they shipped 8+ million units world wide and the Sony faithful will be all "SEE SONY THEMSELVES SAID IT NOW WHY WOULD THEY LIE"

[Third]

Wii's success only good for Nintendo.

New Wii buyers only buy the Wii for WiiFit or/and Mario Kart.

Third party developers don't get any advantage of the Wii hw sales since WiiFit buyers (women+girs) won't buy other games.

[pilonv1]

Even that is not true, you know. For one, the system seller deal doesn't seem to be a realistic factor these days. But PS3 games don't even sell to existing PS3 owners. We'll see where the game lands (especially worldwide, given the differences in marketing of the game here and there), but over 300k in a few days seems to be far above the norm.

The software sales are good all things considered, as you said they don't really sell their own software to their own userbase.

I thought there would have been more of a hardware spike though, but then that was the case across other territories too.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I could see HOTD and Madworld pulling a nmh/boom blox type of sales pattern. 60kish first month and then steadily accumulating sales until a few months go by and they're at 250kish.  De Blob never charted but it ended up doing well. Wii dev costs are cheap enough to make that a successful number.  They just need good word of mouth.

To play devils advocate, KZ2 was only out for two days.  Why is it not an impressive performance?  Granted I don't think they'll recoup the dev costs for a 4 year dev time.

[pilonv1]

Wii dev costs are cheap enough to make that a successful number.  They just need good word of mouth.

This is why unit sales are really irrelevant in a vacuum. You're not getting the value of retail sales, you're assuming all dev costs are equal and all marketing is equal. So Wii third party stuff not charting isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The other thing is that most Wii software isn't front loaded, it's much more constant.

[Sho Nuff]

IN-DE-STRUCTIBLE

[EmCeeGrammar]

Wii dev costs are cheap enough to make that a successful number.  They just need good word of mouth.

This is why unit sales are really irrelevant in a vacuum. You're not getting the value of retail sales, you're assuming all dev costs are equal and all marketing is equal. So Wii third party stuff not charting isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The other thing is that most Wii software isn't front loaded, it's much more constant.

However Nintendo IS fucked in Japan.  So many bombs.  And I can say that because we get much more complete numbers on a weekly basis.  With supply finally catching up to demand worldwide and the lackluster Japanese performance, 09 is going to be the indicator of whether or not this was a fad all along.

[Third]

Nah, the Wii will remain successful. There are enough housewives and kids in the world who still want to buy that thing.
Just don't expect them to buy other games besides the usual Nintendo games and some shitty licenced 3rd party title.

And people still ask why 3rd parties are ignoring the Wii. Why shouldn't they? The vast majority of the Wii demographic doesn't care about gaming in general.

[drew]

zzz

[Third]

Yeah, the usual Nintendo, Capcom or Square Enix game.

Even Gamecube had a few 3rd party million sellers, with half the amount of Wii's userbase.

Serious gamers who own a Wii and a next-gen console, rather want their favorite game to be released on the next-gen console instead of the Wii. 3rd parties know that.

[Bocsius]

Outstanding Nintendo hardware sales, as always. Impressive 360 sales, too. Even PS3 isn't so bad for a last place system. But that last place moniker is sticking.

[pilonv1]

I've seen some Wii titles actually trend UP over time. It's totally bizarre.

[Third]

Yeah, the usual Nintendo, Capcom or Square Enix game.

Even Gamecube had a few 3rd party million sellers, with half the amount of Wii's userbase.

Serieus gamers who own a Wii and a next-gen console, rather want a game to be released on the next-gen console instead of the Wii. 3rd parties know that.

Not exactly.

You're actually right. I've looked it up.

But the quality of those good selling 3rd party games is rather depressing. But I guess that's what the Wii crowd wants...