Magic: The Gathering

[Kara]

I never bought into the more skill thing.

[Human Snorenado]

I never bought into the more skill thing.

It's absolutely true

Especially drafting. Oh man, I love drafting.

[The Sceneman]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

[Kara]

If u love drafting so much y don't u marry it.

[naff]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

Congrats on the 2hg win, at least you've proven (you know who) it wasn't your fault you lost last time!

I've gone balls deep into this Magic business, vidya wasn't doing it for me so much. Limited is great, no vidya game has destroyed my brain as much as drafting, and constructing decks is pretty fun. Even though im quite familiar with KTK and FRF now, still find drafting pretty tough but winning more now for sure. Also I did my first sealed match today, jumped straight into a tournament (only done draft limited before) and built a 60 card deck :'( i thought since you had more cards you built a bigger deck. Missed that part when i spent 5 mins reading about sealed archetypes and strategy.... Still won a bunch of games, got a surprisingly good jeskai list with Monastery Siege, Outpost Siege and Mantis Rider with a load of monks. Would've been more consistent with 40 though....

Been toying w a Podless Pod for Modern on XMage (free MTG client w enforced rules, really not much worse than MTGO) w Chord of Calling, got a shit ton to trade, and im kinda keen on just playing Affinity but thought i'd rather try something a little weirder/original. Thinking maybe i should flag it and think about something with more 3cmc or less critters and use Collected Company or just play Affinity which i also really enjoy playing.

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4 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
4 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
3 Overgrown Tomb
2 Stomping Ground
2 Temple Garden
3 Windswept Heath
2 Wooded Foothills
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Acidic Slime
4 Arbor Elf
3 Chord of Calling
4 Eternal Witness
3 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Polukranos, World Eater
3 Primal Command
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Restoration Angel
1 Scavenging Ooze
3 Siege Rhino
1 Spellskite
3 Strangleroot Geist
1 Temur Sabertooth
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
4 Utopia Sprawl

Sideboard:
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Avalanche Riders
3 Beast Within
2 Creeping Corrosion
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Kitchen Finks
3 Slaughter Games
1 Sowing Salt
2 Stony Silence

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Enjoyed this light but interesting podcast on the MTG trade. I learned some things. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2015/03/11/392381112/episode-609-the-curse-of-the-black-lotus THE UGINNN

[thisismyusername]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.

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lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.

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[naff]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.

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lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.

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XMage - free online drafts all day

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.

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lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.

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Solution: don't suck, split 8/4 drafts all day erryday, go infinite.

[thisismyusername]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.

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lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.

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XMage - free online drafts all day

This is the new Apprentice/Cockatrice? Just with Draft ability?

[naff]

Just another one. Cockatrice still better if you wanna proxy locally w friends imo though im p noob still so i like the rule enforcement when dealing w new cards. It enforces rules like mtgo, makes it way better playing randoms online than the others and uses the same kinds of shortcuts as mtgo, w new sets there's usually a few bugs but i haven't encountered any errors so far.

They support all types of magic play afaik. Cube, Sealed, Draft, Pauper, Commander, Constructed etc. Good way to get practice in without breaking the bank, then take yourself to mtgo and get some QPs.

[Joe Molotov]

Did a midnight prerelease of DTK last Friday at my LGS and won. I picked the Ojutai box but my white pulls were meh and my black pulls were strong, so I went U/B.

1x Silumgar, the Drifting Death
2x Qarsi Sadist
1x Pitiless Horde
1x Elusive Spellfist
1x Hand of Silumgar
1x Minister of Pain
1x Ojutai Interceptor
1x Rakshasa Gravecaller
1x Kolaghan Skirmisher
1x Blood-Chin Rager
1x Risen Executioner
1x Silumgar Butcher
1x Updraft Elemental

1x Taigam's Strike
1x Butcher's Glee
1x Duress
1x Sight Beyond Sight (Thunder...Thunder...Thunder...Thundercats HOOOO!)
1x Illusory Gains
1x Douse in Gloom
1x Negate
1x Spidersilk Net
1x Contradict

10x Swamp
7x Island

I'm not really sold on DTK as a set atm, but that might change once I see more of the cards in action and get a couple of drafts under my belt. I decided not to buy a box for now and I just preorder a few playsets of cards that interested me.

[The Sceneman]

Yeah drafting is like one of the biggest skill testers in Magic. They do it at the pro-tours and players championships for good reason!

It's really too bad it costs so much to do in Magic online. If I could pay $1 per draft or so, I'd totally do it.

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lol sounds like I'm going to a bar during Happy Hour for that.

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XMage - free online drafts all day

[The Sceneman]

After playing a few test matches against Abzan Aggro with cruddy AI I think my new brew can be a contender. It can play around a lot of strats and the sideboard has several contingency plans. Gonna tune and test hard so I can defecate on the competition at DTK Game Day

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/red-devotion-featuring-green/

[Joe Molotov]

Looks pretty hot. (PUN INTENDED!)

[The Sceneman]

The mono-red shell looooves the green splash. When I first saw Atraka's Command I knew I had to play that card. So much value. Xenagos is also a great addition for ramp and more assholes on the board

[Joe Molotov]

Hitting up Game Day today with Red Atarka. I was gonna cut the Rabblemasters out of my RDW shell when putting this together, then I was just gonna run two, but fuck it, I'm all in. 4 Rabblemasters + an Obelisk of Urd #OneLastRide

[Joe Molotov]

To get into Top 8, I needed to win a match against a G/W Devotion deck. Game 3, I had mull to 4 after drawing shit hand after shit hand.

The cards I finally kept: Mana Confluence, Zurgo Bellstriker, Roast, Goblin Rabblemaster.

Rabblemaster won me that game. 

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Turn 1: I played Zurgo, he played land and passed.
Turn 2: I drew a Mountain, swung with Zurgo. He played land and passed.
Turn 3: I drew Frenzied Goblin, played same. Swung with Zurgo, he played land and Boon Satyr.
Turn 4: I drew Wooded Foothills. I swung with Zurgo, he traded with his Boon Satyr. I played Rabblemaster. He played Polukranos.
Turn 5: I drew a Mountain, Roasted his Pulokranos and swung house. He played a Deathmist Raptor.
Turn 6: I swung house, using Frenzied Goblin to keep his Deathmist Raptor from blocking, putting him at 1 life. He looked at his cards for like 5 minutes, trying to figure out someway to block and/or kill 5 creatures in the next turn, before finally conceding that Rabblemaster too stronk, Wizards nerf pls.

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[Human Snorenado]

http://gawker.com/i-won-a-5-000-magic-the-gathering-tournament-on-shroo-1705333524

[Kara]

Type 2 is a skilless format confirmed.

Speaking of, I saw Daybreak Coronet is in Modern Masters 2015. Should I give up on life and build an enchant creature deck for Modern? Kor Spiritdancer is mai waifu.

[Human Snorenado]

If you wanna lose a lot, sure

[Kara]

If SFM wasn't banned I could rep the Kor and win but can't win before turn X because fun.

[thisismyusername]

http://gawker.com/i-won-a-5-000-magic-the-gathering-tournament-on-shroo-1705333524

Too many words for "I was high as fuck and didn't give a damn."

[T234]

I once won a Legacy tournament under the influence of 250 mg of German Licorice Rock MDMA.

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UNDEFEATED 12-0 BITCHES.

Ran around like Ric Flair all night.

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[Joe Molotov]

Pro MTGers get anally devestated on Twitter because some dude rare-drafts a foil Tarmogoyf (a card currently valued at ~$330 on TCGPlayer) in the Top 8 at GP Vegas, passing on a card that would have given him a better chance to win the tournament (with a 1st Place payout of $4000).

Dude puts the card on Ebay, offers to give 50% to charity, it's now up to $12,000. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

[thisismyusername]

Pro MTGers get anally devestated on Twitter because some dude rare-drafts a foil Tarmogoyf (a card currently valued at ~$330 on TCGPlayer) in the Top 8 at GP Vegas, passing on a card that would have given him a better chance to win the tournament (with a 1st Place payout of $4000).

Dude puts the card on Ebay, offers to give 50% to charity, it's now up to $12,000. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Foil-Tarmogoyf-MM2-Stamped-GP-Vegas-Top-8-Pascal-Maynard-/261911963536

Link to the anal devastation? I know a FGC pro player was complimenting them for the move, but I didn't know the cards value.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/OwenTweetenwald/status/605214811736018944

https://twitter.com/HueyJensen/status/605211503914917888

https://twitter.com/ReidDuke/status/605431735694680065

[Human Snorenado]

What did he take it over? Was it already pack 2 or 3 and he was heavily in non-green colors? Having a hard time thinking of a card you want to draft over Tarmogoyf...

[Joe Molotov]

It was pack 3 and he was drafting R/W aggro. I'm not a pro draft-doer but everyone was saying that Burst Lightning would have been the correct pick out of the pack he opened.

[Human Snorenado]

In that situation, yes.

[thisismyusername]

If WotC don't care, players shouldn't either. If he's fucking himself over on losing the GP for a small (read: major) monetary gain, who's problem besides the players being butthurt about is it?

[Human Snorenado]

High level mtg tournament play attracts the spergiest of spergs; this is SERIOUS BUSINESS, I assure you.

[naff]

16k and counting wtf

[Human Snorenado]

16k and counting wtf

Obviously the special fellow brigade is bidding it up with no intention of buying, because spergs gotta special fellow.

[Kara]

I rare draft in sanctioned drafts, fuck the playground rules you have to play by at your LGS.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/creativity/custom-card-creation/612057-generating-magic-cards-using-deep-recursive-neural

omg, I'm in tears

tl;dr version: This guy is teaching a neural network to to make Magic cards. The results are, frankly, some of the best Magic cards that would have ever been printed.

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Slidshocking Krow and Rilatort Treat seem playable.

[Great Rumbler]

Mountainspalk and Tromple?!

[Joe Molotov]

It's a blue card, so this checks out.

[Joe Molotov]

Rilatort Treat into a T1 Light of the Bild, tho.

[Kara]

Mods please change my name to Mided Hied Parira's Scepter thanks in advance.

[Joe Molotov]

This is a real card. MaRo, pls.

[Kara]

Why can't they bring back mechanics from Kamigawa block that were actually good.

eternal formats letting me pretend Magic isn't rn

[Human Snorenado]

HURP A DURP, CREATURE POWER CREEP ISN'T A THING BUT WE CAN'T HAVE POWERFUL SPELLS OR THE CHILDRENS WILL CRY

I mean fuck

[Kara]

#rememberwhen Wizzos released an "enchantment" set that just had a bunch of creatures that were enchantments?

[Human Snorenado]

Hard times, daddy

[naff]

This is a real card. MaRo, pls.

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Origins art sucks. At least, Gideon looks like a character from trailer park boys.

Zendikar Gideon 

[Kara]

A Merfolk deck won Grand Prix Copenhagen?

When is cutting edge Type 1 tech like MUD coming to the eternal format for plebs and pro tour scrubs?

[Joe Molotov]

Mehgic: Errigerns is looking a bit shite, until I saw this was getting reprinted



Goblins all day, erry day.

[Kara]

Piledriver-Matron-Ringleader Goblins in Type 1.X.

[thisismyusername]

#rememberwhen Wizzos released an "enchantment" set that just had a bunch of creatures that were enchantments?

Wasn't that 2012? Or am I misremembering? I know 2012 had like equipment out the wazoo.

[Kara]

Theros was 2013 - 2014.

Unless you're trolling Urza's block, in which case carry on.

[thisismyusername]

OH WOW. For those that don't know:

http://www.readthehook.com/95057/news-uva-rape-case-student-accepts-lesser-charge

[Joe Molotov]

The changes are basically "let's make it cost more to enter events and give out shittier prizes for winning" because good players were winning enough packs to play for free.

[Human Snorenado]

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The changes are basically "let's make it cost more to enter events and give out shittier prizes for winning" because good players were winning enough packs to play for free.

It's going to blow up the economy. Since yesterday, we've already had 20+ collections sold to us, several 5k+ in value, and we've dropped the buy price on event tix from .95 each to .90, with another drop entirely possible in the next few days.

For comparison, when Kiblergate happened over a year ago now and they shut down dailies and premier events, even THEN we didn't drop the buy price on tix lower than .90. WotC employs some of the dumbest motherfuckers in the world to run mtgo, real talk.

[Kara]

So basically a giant "MODO: PROS ONLY" sign is up now.

Fun fact, you can't even find a 1.5 daily between 6 and 16 on the weekends in Europe. Eternal formats will definitely live on in MODO after the reserved list finishes them off in paper with support like that.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%83%A2%E3%83%90%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%81%AE%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F%E3%82%92%E3%82%A2%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E3%81%A8%E8%BF%91%E3%81%84%E6%A7%8B%E5%9B%B3%E3%81%AEMTG%E3%81%AE%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%81%8C%E9%80%81%E3%82%89%E3%82%8C%E3%81%A6%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8B?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I like this.

[thisismyusername]

Well... that's... certainly something.

The Jace one... 

[Kara]

Squee

[Joe Molotov]

I think we've finally got a winner out of the machine generated Magic cards.

[thisismyusername]

http://nerdist.com/ingenuous-use-of-braille-lets-the-blind-play-magic-the-gathering/

This is pretty neat.

[Joe Molotov]

Planeswalkers are fuckstupid Timmy bullshit, never play with one if you have any self-respect.

Kara was right. Planeswalkers were a mistake, they're nothing but garbage.





20 copies of Gideon and 16 copies of Jace in the Pro Tour Top 8 this weekend. Control sucks, burn sucks, just planeswalkers and creatures for days.