Author Topic: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening (Read 4712 times)

ManaByte · « **on:** April 18, 2009, 04:54:19 PM »

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/17/the-hobbit-plans-change-del-toro-and-jackson-spill-new-details/

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The upcoming 20th birthday of Empire Magazine has been guest edited by none other than Steven Spielberg. By the power of his magical directing beard, he appears to have secured some rather nifty exclusives for the mag, and now they’re starting to flood out.

Quite impressively, they’ve got the scoop on Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro’s revised plans for The Hobbit. Previously we’d been told that they were going to make two films, the first an adaptation the novel and the second to bridge the gap between that book and The Fellowship of the Ring. Now, however, it seems that The Hobbit itself is going to take up two full length pictures all by itself.

Empire quote each of the Hobbitmasters. Here’s Del Toro:

"We’ve decided to have The Hobbit span the two movies, including the White Council and the comings and goings of Gandalf to Dol Guldur."

And Jackson:

"We decided it would be a mistake to try to cram everything into one movie. The essential brief was to do The Hobbit, and it allows us to make The Hobbit in a little more style, if you like, of the trilogy."

There was a rumor recently that Del Toro would have a whole trilogy to play with, not two films but Jackson’s comment here about ‘the essential brief’, stepping down from the original plan and suggesting this new idea was how they’d be fulfilling their obligation, leaves me with the impression that the bridge narrative has been ditched altogether.

I’m assuming this spells the end of fan dreams to see Viggo Mortenson’s Aragorn in action again. Here’s hoping Jackson is just keeping a potential third film under his hat and the old rumours were based on something solid.

The special issue of Empire magazine hits UK shelves on the 23rd, and promises much more on The Hobbit, not to mention Tintin and lord knows what else Spielberg has won them access to.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2009, 04:55:14 PM »

Peter Jackson

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:02:05 PM »

Greatest director alive

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:02:10 PM »

Whatever. When am I gonna get Hellboy 3?

Veidt · « **Reply #4 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:04:54 PM »

never

$:-\$

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #5 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:05:48 PM »

Q - Will Jackson ever work on anything better than Heavenly Creatures?

A - No.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #6 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:11:23 PM »

As if the homoerotic shit by Frodo and Sam wasn't enough in LOTR, Del Toro and Jackson are gonna gives 2 whole movies just about that kind of gay ass shit.

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:11:46 PM »

Why does The Hobbit need two movies? That book is short as hell.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** April 18, 2009, 06:02:03 PM »

Yea, you could tell the Hobbit in one movie and still include White Council stuff. I'm sure both movies will rock, and two is better than one...but hmmm. The Hobbit is not LOTR..

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #9 on:** April 18, 2009, 06:09:37 PM »

trying to do The Hobbit in the style of LOTR is kind of lame IMO. the book was tonally different and was a children's book, so I think the movie should be as well.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:35:02 PM »

yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding guy (not his words).

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #11 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:37:48 PM »

who cares

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12 on:** April 18, 2009, 07:55:23 PM »

Quote from: Scenester on April 18, 2009, 07:35:02 PM

yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding cunt

boohoo he demands excellence. tell your friend to stop bitching, he should be happy to be working for the greatest director in film today

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #13 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:09:29 PM »

^ ahahahahahaha

Cheebs · « **Reply #14 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:21:18 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on April 18, 2009, 05:02:10 PM

Whatever. When am I gonna get Hellboy 3?

This project is going to keep Del Toro occupied till 2013 I believe. So probably not for quite a while.

Solo · « **Reply #15 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:26:25 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 07:55:23 PM

Quote from: Scenester on April 18, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
yeah my friend works at the cafe at Peter Jacksons post production facility here in Wellington, apparently PJ is the most demanding cunt

boohoo he demands excellence. tell your friend to stop bitching, he should be happy to be working for the greatest director in film today

Did Scorsese, PTA, Spielberg, and about 1000 other guys die and no one told me?

Cheebs · « **Reply #16 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:28:20 PM »

The Frighteners was awesome.

Himu · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 06:02:03 PM

Yea, you could tell the Hobbit in one movie and still include White Council stuff. I'm sure both movies will rock, and two is better than one...but hmmm. The Hobbit is not LOTR..

Of course you can. I'm sure the 70's (or was it 80's) cartoon of the Hobbit will be better than this. An adaptation does not need to have every single thing in the original in it. The Hobbit cartoon is an excellent movie and for the most part, has basically every single important part in the book.

Cheebs · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:45:28 PM »

Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though.

CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:46:32 PM »

It owned. Shut up!

Himu · « **Reply #20 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:51:15 PM »

And yeah, I grew up on those LOTR and Hobbit cartoons. When I was a little kid, on trips, my father would bring his Minds Eye Lord of the Rings tapes and we'd listen to the whole story on our trips.

I guess I'm letting nostalgia cloud my judgment?

I dunno. The soundtrack owned.

[youtube=560,345]XSHLGnexe-w[/youtube]

And Cheebs, you DO realize that The Hobbit and LotR are FULL of songs and shit? I mean, the books. The songs in the cartoon do the book justice and keep the story feeling like a crazy ol' tale throughout.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #21 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:54:24 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 10:45:28 PM

Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though. CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.

2 LOTR animated movies? I thought there was only the one. Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?

Himu · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2009, 10:56:29 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on April 18, 2009, 10:54:24 PM

Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?

Yes. Cheebs is dum dum

Cheebs · « **Reply #23 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:10:05 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on April 18, 2009, 10:54:24 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on April 18, 2009, 10:45:28 PM
Himumu oh god no no no no. That 70's movie was cheesy as hell. Gollum was a FROG WITH FUR and it had multiple musical numbers like a disney cartoon.

I remember watching all the time when I was little on Cartoon Network though. CN used to do these big Lord of the Rings marathons on weekends back in the early 90's airing the two LOTR animated films and the hobbit.

2 LOTR animated movies? I thought there was only the one. Also wasn't there musical numbers in the book too?

LOTR and ROTK were the two.

Oh and to destroy any of your memories of these things:
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:12:29 PM »

That's tight. Did New Order produce it's OST or something?

Cheebs · « **Reply #25 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:15:17 PM »

Quote from: Greatness Gone on April 18, 2009, 11:12:29 PM

That's tight. Did New Order produce it's OST or something?

Hah, that was nothing. This is the greatest song ever.
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #26 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:18:27 PM »

I've never head of ROTK

. I have the hobbit and LOTR on VHS though.

Cheebs · « **Reply #27 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:24:19 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on April 18, 2009, 11:18:27 PM

I've never head of ROTK . I have the hobbit and LOTR on VHS though.

Then you've missed this:

Cheebs · « **Reply #28 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:24:56 PM »

er...
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #29 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:25:56 PM »

Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap. GTFO of here with that crap.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #30 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:27:25 PM »

The animated LOTR cartoon was pretty cool, and convinced me to read the books

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #31 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:27:46 PM »

Ya these kind of music videos don't belong here. Post them in Malek's log.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I wish I were a hobbit.

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Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:28:01 PM »

Oh my God. FUCK YOU CHEEBS

Himu · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:29:00 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on April 18, 2009, 11:27:46 PM

Ya these kind of music videos don't belong here. Post them in Malek's log.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I wish I were a hobbit.
[close]

All I 'd do is smoke weed, eat cakes, and drink cake all day if i were a hobbit.

Imagine trying to trim your pubes if you were a hobbit.

Cheebs · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:29:21 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on April 18, 2009, 11:25:56 PM

Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap. GTFO of here with that crap.

I agree, I just had to destroy Himu's memories of their shittyness.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #35 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 18, 2009, 11:27:25 PM

The animated LOTR cartoon was pretty cool, and convinced me to read the books

There you go, the Mark Halperin of pop culture has spoken. "This was a good week for John McCain" indeed.

Himu, stfu or I'll mail you some bacon.

Himu · « **Reply #36 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:30:25 PM »

MY MEMORIES

Quote from: The Card Cheat on April 18, 2009, 11:30:05 PM

Himu, stfu or I'll mail you some bacon.

$:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #37 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:31:33 PM »

I think it'll be fine. Sure the book is short but the amount of areas that are explored, it would probably come off as rushed in a single movie (trying to run through each area, Middle Earth Gambit). Though, I'm sure the split between the movies will probably be awkward.

Diunx · « **Reply #38 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM »

I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:00:34 AM »

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM

I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

I would rather get an At the Mountains of Madness movie, but that ain't gonna happen.

Rman · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:08:29 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on April 18, 2009, 11:25:56 PM

Ugh the fucking animated movies were crap. GTFO of here with that crap.

.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #41 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:13:42 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on April 19, 2009, 12:00:34 AM

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

I would have get an At the Mountains of Madness movie, but that ain't gonna happen.

Del Toro better get on this before he's ultimately diagnosed with diabeetus

drew · « **Reply #42 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:22:57 AM »

who gives a fucking fuck

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #43 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:10:14 AM »

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM

I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

Why, they suck

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #44 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:23:18 AM »

Del Toro: "LOL, we were just joking about making two Hobbit movies. We actually just made that up to get New Line to cough up an extra $200 Million for a different movie I wanted to make. Please enjoy The Hobbit 2: At the Mountains of Madness."

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:04:29 AM »

I read The Hobbit when I was 8. The only thing that was cool was Gollum. Who I believe doesn't appear until about halfway into the book and then disappears for the rest of the story. The rest of the book was an utter bore.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:36:41 AM »

Smaug was cool because hey, you know, dragons n' shit.

Diunx · « **Reply #47 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:49:55 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 19, 2009, 01:10:14 AM

Quote from: Diunx on April 18, 2009, 11:55:10 PM
I would rather get a new Hellboy to be honest.

Why, they suck

I enjoyed them, I'm kind of sick of lord of the rings, I would rather watch hellboy kicking ass and changing diapers than a hobbit walking around middle earth.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #48 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:52:20 AM »

I'd rather watch Camp Rock 2 or Eating Out 3: The Eating of Marco Dapper's Asshole instead another Peter Jackson or del Toro directed/produced film.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #49 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:01:01 AM »

The Hobbit isn't a particularly interesting story. It's a fun book, I liked it, but there isn't much in there that will translate into a good movie. People on GAF are creaming over the prospect of the battle of five armies but come on: it'll be nothing more than a giant WETA battle. It'll be pretty, will look epic in terms of size, but still won't be anything truly amazing.

It's still a middle aged hobbit, an old wizard (who'll look even older consider Sir Ian isn't growing younger), and 12 dwarves. I guess Del Toro will make a few of them memorable (the angry one, the comic relief one, maybe one for gay subtext, etc) but there's no way that will be as interesting as the variety of the fellowship in LOTR

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #50 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:50:53 AM »

13 dwarves. I just watched the cartoon again.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #51 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:54:53 AM »

15 birds,
in five fur trees.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #52 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:57:25 AM »

What funny little birds,
they had no wings.

Diunx · « **Reply #53 on:** April 19, 2009, 03:59:30 AM »

15 are too many fucking birds, fuck this movie.

chronovore · « **Reply #54 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:26:23 AM »

What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?

Cheebs · « **Reply #55 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:51:48 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on April 21, 2009, 05:26:23 AM

What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?

$$$$$

Eric P · « **Reply #56 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:54:22 AM »

if publishing has shown us anything, it's that lotr nerds will buy and read damn near anything he wrote

i expect tolkein's grocery lists to be published any day now with a forward from peter jackson stating that this truly is a great day for fans

ManaByte · « **Reply #57 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:46:27 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on April 21, 2009, 05:26:23 AM

What's all this "bridge" talk? Do you have to be a Tolkien scholar to know what "Dol Gut Smutmang" or whatever that initial mention was?

The Hobbit's just not that complex a story? If they can make three three-hour movies, surely they can make ONE more three-hour movie and call it a day?

There's 60 years between Hobbit and LOTR and Tolkien chronicled most of it. There's no Aragorn in The Hobbit, but there's a bunch of Aragorn and Gandalf stuff between Hobbit and LOTR, and that's what the bridge movie was going to cover.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #58 on:** April 21, 2009, 01:50:30 PM »

The Lord of the Rings: The Bridge to Nowhere

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #59 on:** April 21, 2009, 02:06:58 PM »

Quote from: Willco on April 21, 2009, 01:50:30 PM

The Lord of the Rings: The Bridge to Nowhere

You're just mad that the lotr movies were better than Spider hyphen Man.

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Author Topic: The Hobbit plans change, now two movies/"bridge" movie may not be happening (Read 4712 times)