Author Topic: Terminator 4 Salvation: Who's gonna watch it? (Read 13351 times)

WrikaWrek · « **on:** May 17, 2009, 09:23:20 PM »

Pretty psyched, after all the development stories and the whole McG being a hack and this movie being poised for failure, it suddenly started to look like some pretty amazing popcorn blockbuster action waiting to hit us in the face.

You watched the trailers, and you know how badass it looks and how Sam Worghinton or whatever his last name is, looks like he's going to own the movie. James Cameron didn't pick him for Avatar just because.

So are you going to watch it in the theater? Europe gets a 2 week delay slapped in the face but hey, unless an R5 comes out i'm going to want to watch this in the Theater first.

Oh, and first review from Variety

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940262.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

Diunx · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:38:04 PM »

Gonna download a TS and deleted it when I'm done watching it.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:40:00 PM »

its going on my "avoid till death" list with tranformers and wolverine

Costanza · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:05:02 PM »

day fuckin 1

chronovore · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:19:39 PM »

Probably opening weekend, and it may not be six months after the rest of the world, like most movies in Japan are. For some reason Japan is super fascinated with anything Terminator-oriented, and it looks like it'll open mid-June.

I liked McG's Charlie's Angels, and as others have pointed out, Chuck doesn't suck. I'm cautiously hopeful.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:21:51 PM »

I'm going out to our beach cabin with a bunch of friends for Memorial Day weekend, but we'll probably catch it on Sunday night on the way home.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:24:30 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on May 17, 2009, 09:38:04 PM

Gonna download a TS and deleted it when I'm done watching it.

this.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:37:25 PM »

It'll probably suck, but I'll watch it anyway.

Cheebs · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:56:42 PM »

As someone who thinks the first one is way better than the second this bit from the review may have been the first thing about this movie that has got me excited:

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Darker, grimmer and more stylistically single-minded than its two relatively giddy predecessors, "Terminator Salvation" boasts the kind of singular vision that distinguished the James Cameron original

Tauntaun · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:07:05 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on May 17, 2009, 10:56:42 PM

As someone who thinks the first one is way better than the second this bit from the review may have been the first thing about this movie that has got me excited:
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Darker, grimmer and more stylistically single-minded than its two relatively giddy predecessors, "Terminator Salvation" boasts the kind of singular vision that distinguished the James Cameron original

Michael Biehn > Stupid kid playing connor

chronovore · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:11:56 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on May 17, 2009, 10:56:42 PM

As someone who thinks the first one is way better than the second this bit from the review may have been the first thing about this movie that has got me excited:
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Darker, grimmer and more stylistically single-minded than its two relatively giddy predecessors, "Terminator Salvation" boasts the kind of singular vision that distinguished the James Cameron original

Yeah, same here. It's difficult to believe McG is capable of doing something that's dark and gritty; action-packed, sure... but if he's actually made a movie closer to the first, where the best possible outcome was maintaining the status quo where 99% of humanity died, but the alternative is that 100% dies... well, that's pretty great.

drew · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:12:52 AM »

i will be seeing this opening day

im prolly the biggest fan on here

tiesto · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:22:12 AM »

Gonna see this day 1. I highly doubt it's gonna approach T1 and 2 levels but I have faith it will at least be a bit more interesting than 3. This looks like the movie I thought 3 would be.

drew · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:23:56 AM »

3 was a paycheck movie, ahnold is stiff and boring the whole time and whoever casted john connor should be banned from his job, he looked and acted nothing like the kid from t2

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:19:35 AM »

Also looked like an utter dork.

Veidt · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:20:48 AM »

For WrikaWrek. I WILL.

"I'm the only hope you have.."

brawndolicious · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:43:47 AM »

The "human-robots" idea looked stupid and the star is apparently a fucking man-baby.

So at the most, I'm willing to stream it from some pirate site if people without bale-cock taste like it.

chronovore · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:47:53 AM »

Who knows what's going on in Bale's life. Celebrities: who needs 'em? But more so, why do we care what happens if Bale shouts at his mom and sister? Maybe they're horrid? Maybe he's horrid? Who cares?

Bale shouts at a grip or lighting technician or whatever-that-guy-was... who cares? Actors on sets want to do their job, and someone who wasn't doing their own properly gets yelled at. Who cares?

I break it down like this: I like Prince, I think he's a musical genius, blah-blah-blah, but I'd never let him babysit my kids. I'm not inviting Christian Bale over for drinks with his mom and sister, nor am I a lighting tech on his set, so I'm not worried about how he conducts himself.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:00:41 AM »

whatever. The guy is an emotional trainwreck but I couldn't give a damn. It's his fans that piss me off more when they excuse his behavior and they're probably sales-nerds so maybe that's a back-handed bitch-slap on them?

The idea of the movie just looks boring as hell though. I've already seen enough action for this year so I actually now expect a somewhat interesting story when I go to theaters.

drew · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:40:44 AM »

who gives a fuck about bale?

quit being such a nerd

all i know is he was in the dark knight

and that is all i need to know

ignorance is bliss, baby

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:55:30 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 04:00:41 AM

whatever. The guy is an emotional trainwreck but I couldn't give a damn. It's his fans that piss me off more when they excuse his behavior and they're probably sales-nerds so maybe that's a back-handed bitch-slap on them?

The idea of the movie just looks boring as hell though. I've already seen enough action for this year so I actually now expect a somewhat interesting story when I go to theaters.

Clearly you do

step off, you're one of the worst posters here. Watch the movie or don't - but enough of the transparent attempts at intellectual trolling. you aren't smart buddy, gtfo

CrystalGemini · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:07:12 AM »

May take my dad for father's day. Bro wants to watch it opening night though. $:-\$

Brehvolution · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:13:42 AM »

I want to see it. I may just wait for the bluray.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:16:07 AM »

Quote from: Jinfash on May 18, 2009, 04:20:33 AM

I'm interested. Anything post-apocalyptic is interesting to me.

I ended up watching Resident Evil 3 in the theater because it was post-apocalyptic, so I really don't have any excuse for not watching Terminator 4.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:16:43 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 18, 2009, 04:55:30 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 04:00:41 AM
whatever. The guy is an emotional trainwreck but I couldn't give a damn. It's his fans that piss me off more when they excuse his behavior and they're probably sales-nerds so maybe that's a back-handed bitch-slap on them?

The idea of the movie just looks boring as hell though. I've already seen enough action for this year so I actually now expect a somewhat interesting story when I go to theaters.

Clearly you do

step off, you're one of the worst posters here. Watch the movie or don't - but enough of the transparent attempts at intellectual trolling. you aren't smart buddy, gtfo

Actually I do care when famous people that I don't care about are insane. Not because I care about the actual person but because a lot of people look up to them. The type of person who would actually forgive an actor's assholeness because they like their acting is probably very shallow and I wouldn't be surprised if this makes studios appeal to an even lower common denominato. To use the most intellectual trolling language that is possible.

cool breeze · « **Reply #25 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:36:59 AM »

I have interest in seeing it, just not too much.

The only problem I have with Bale in this movie is that it will be all that's talked about surrounding it. That or comparing it to T1/2. Doesn't really impact that quality of the movie, just talk surrounding the movie.

Diunx · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2009, 12:13:35 PM »

Bale is fucking awesome, who gives a shit if he yelled at some shitty technician? was that lighting guy in American Psycho or Empire of the Sun? no! so he can go fuck himself.

I wish Bale would stop doing this boring good guys roles, he looks boring in this movie and in public Enemies.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2009, 01:32:41 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 11:16:43 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 18, 2009, 04:55:30 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 04:00:41 AM
whatever. The guy is an emotional trainwreck but I couldn't give a damn. It's his fans that piss me off more when they excuse his behavior and they're probably sales-nerds so maybe that's a back-handed bitch-slap on them?

The idea of the movie just looks boring as hell though. I've already seen enough action for this year so I actually now expect a somewhat interesting story when I go to theaters.

Clearly you do

step off, you're one of the worst posters here. Watch the movie or don't - but enough of the transparent attempts at intellectual trolling. you aren't smart buddy, gtfo
Actually I do care when famous people that I don't care about are insane. Not because I care about the actual person but because a lot of people look up to them. The type of person who would actually forgive an actor's assholeness because they like their acting is probably very shallow and I wouldn't be surprised if this makes studios appeal to an even lower common denominato. To use the most intellectual trolling language that is possible.

People look up to them? What are you, a middle aged parent of two young children? gtfo with that

A good deal of Hollywood elite folks are arrogant, disgusting individuals. People don't "forgive" this behavior as much as they simply don't care - if I enjoy Bale in a movie, it's because of the performance. If I don't enjoy Bale in a movie, it's because of the performance - not because he's an asshole. I wouldn't say meh, Indiana Jones sucks because Harrison Ford is a dick on sets.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:25:52 PM »

Well if Bill Gates had a tantrum like that, mac sales would explode. Being a movie star is a dream job so the public excuses behavior like that. Even on this forum people justified Bale's attitude, probably more because they wish that they were him than because they think he's talented or whatever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:30:48 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 02:25:52 PM

Well if Bill Gates had a tantrum like that, mac sales would explode. Being a movie star is a dream job so the public excuses behavior like that. Even on this forum people justified Bale's attitude, probably more because they wish that they were him than because they think he's talented or whatever.

Are you seriously comparing the vanity of actors to unstable actions of businessmen, which would undoubtedly have an impact on the well being of a company? Seriously?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #30 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:36:54 PM »

If hypothetically I was the only person who saw Bill Gates shouting like a toddler, I would be reluctant to buy MS products.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:38:58 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 02:25:52 PM

Well if Bill Gates had a tantrum like that, mac sales would explode.

I would buy a few copies of Windows to see Bill Gates have a f-tirade tantrum at an inept worker. It shows he cares

Also, who knows what goes on during filming. Even experienced directors like Darren Aronofsky came out and said he's seen far worse things on set than the Bale thing. It just so happens that the Bale one became public.

I couldn't care less about Bale, but they were filming behind closed doors and actors can get frustrated too, just like you and I. Maybe he was having a bad day. Point is, that tape shouldn't have come out.

What goes on tour...

Bloodwake · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:39:01 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on May 18, 2009, 11:23:46 AM

I'm going opening night. I just don't get the story. How did SKYNET jump straight in to the T100 series when apparently the first humanoid terminators had rubber skin and were easy to spot out.

I'm going to see it opening night. Haven't done it in a while. I might watch it with brandonh83 if I'm lucky.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:40:03 PM »

Christian Bale, the story about an actor who became a movie star by being upstaged by other actors in every single big movie of his.

The Dark Knight, Terminator 4, Public Enemies, The Prestige, Equilibrium etc

No wonder he is pissed, CUZ HE KNOWS FOR HE DOESNT FOOL HIMSELF

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #34 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:43:23 PM »

Well I never said you weren't a dumbass; clearly you're free to your own opinion on the matter, no matter how irrelevantly idealistic it is.

If a product or movie is good, I'll buy it. If I was investing in companies and noticed the management was unstable, or unprofessional or whatever, I wouldn't invest in the company. Different situations obviously.

Would I vote for a diva politician, say if I was in Pelosi's district? Probably because her republican challenger would undoubtedly be worse

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:44:01 PM »

Quote from: InfectedGib on May 18, 2009, 02:38:58 PM

Quote from: am nintenho on May 18, 2009, 02:25:52 PM
Well if Bill Gates had a tantrum like that, mac sales would explode.

It just so happens that the Bale one became public.

What's interesting is that when the incident was first reported, hardly anything was said about it by anyone. It wasn't until nearly six months later when the audio leaked that people got all up in arms about it.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:48:55 PM »

There's a difference between someone telling you the baker pined your mother, and someone showing you a highlight real showing the action moments of it.

Rman · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2009, 03:14:24 PM »

I'm definitely watching it. So hyped after watching the trailer.

Cheebs · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:00:56 PM »

Holy shit its RT score is down to 17%.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2009, 09:18:08 PM »

LOL, I knew this was going to suck. Probably be worse than Transformers 2. I'll probably still see it though (and T2).

McG

drew · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2009, 09:40:51 PM »

if ANYONE else mentions a review without first putting it in a spoiler i will feltch your balls behind your ass and choke you with it

demi · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2009, 09:50:28 PM »

i dont think that is the right word to use

Cheebs · « **Reply #42 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:09:22 PM »

down to 14%

Oh...McG. I actually had a little hope for this, looks likely to have been for nothing.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #43 on:** May 18, 2009, 11:11:48 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on May 18, 2009, 11:09:22 PM

down to 14%

Oh...McG. I actually had a little hope for this, looks likely to have been for nothing.

$:-\$

Diunx · « **Reply #44 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:33:19 AM »

brawndolicious · « **Reply #45 on:** May 19, 2009, 01:17:11 AM »

nintenhodamus total.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2009, 08:05:38 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on May 18, 2009, 11:09:22 PM

down to 14%

Oh...McG. I actually had a little hope for this, looks likely to have been for nothing.

?

This ain't gaf. Who gives a shit about Rottentomatoes? Star Trek ain't even close to being as good and spectacular as TDK, and it's over it.

Rottentomatoes = fail. Which has been a known fact for a long while.

Solo · « **Reply #47 on:** May 19, 2009, 08:48:17 AM »

Ill see it, and be unsurprised when it sucks. Trailer will be better than the movie.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #48 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:54:57 PM »

well at least Drag Me to Hell is doing alright:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/drag_me_to_hell/

FoC annihilated... again

brawndolicious · « **Reply #49 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:25:21 PM »

The rotten tomatoes scores aren't very inaccurate in real life. The text of the reviews seem to all say that the story is lacking more than anything in this movie.

It really sucks that this could kill the Terminator franchise when they haven't really "ended" the story.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #50 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:27:13 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on May 19, 2009, 05:25:21 PM

The rotten tomatoes scores aren't very inaccurate in real life.

You meant accurate right? Or is it just poorly worded?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #51 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:35:59 PM »

I was responding to wrika. The movie is probably bad if the vast majority of the reviews are negative.

When it comes to numerical scores though, it's stupid because one person's 7 is another person's 8 is another person's 4 is another person's 3 is another person's rental.

It's impossible for anyone to be entertained by any media in an objective way which is why the idea of these sites that track scores is stupid. However, nearly every positive and negative review is saying that the plot is the worst thing about this movie. They built up the expectation that it would have a very dark and serious story so if the writing is really that bad, the series will be dead.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #52 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:38:33 PM »

It's a bad ass action flick. I still believe it's gonna rock.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #53 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:50:52 PM »

Somehow, I still believe I'm going to enjoy this more than Star Trek.

The critics who are panning it aren't really convincing me that it's genuinely a bad movie.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #54 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:57:34 PM »

One red flag is getting a method actor to play the John Connor Terminator was always satirical and Bale is physically incapable of saying a funny line. This is not a role that an actor should "become".

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #55 on:** May 19, 2009, 06:05:18 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 19, 2009, 05:38:33 PM

It's a bad ass action flick. I still believe it's gonna rock.

It'll rock like T3 rocked. Only less so.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #56 on:** May 19, 2009, 06:09:11 PM »

This is gonna be much better than T3.

Read the reviews "Oh...john Connor is too serious and the drama sucks".

Drama? Wtf.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #57 on:** May 19, 2009, 07:43:43 PM »

The marketing focused more on the story than the action. Maybe the critics are disappointed by the false expectations or maybe there's just a lot of crappy exposition.

You know what would have been awesome is if Robert Downey Junior actually played John Connor. He was the only reason to watch Iron Man.

Cheebs · « **Reply #58 on:** May 19, 2009, 08:08:37 PM »

Well it has a CGI arnold cameo. thats something I guess

Enl · « **Reply #59 on:** May 20, 2009, 03:54:13 AM »

Meh.

Minor Spoilers

Well the film is better than T3 but it still doesn't even come close to touching the first two. The story is kinda forgettable and in the end pretty pointless. Marcus, while the best character in the movie, just feels thrown in with no real reason or purpose and in the end he's just a completely wasted character. It's like they threw time travel in just for the sake of just having it. I think the most annoying thing in the film to me was Elfman's score. It's the whole Roger Rabbit "Shave and a Haircut" syndrome. The Terminator theme is in there but only 3 notes of it, which he plays over and over and over and... without actually concluding it. Made it feel like a made for tv movie. I did like that the film still had a bit of that road trip movie feel that the previous films had, and thought the T800 battle at the end was ok (CG Arnold wasn't nearly as bad as what I was expecting).

Hollow, pointless, and forgettable. Not good, not bad, just meh.

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Author Topic: Terminator 4 Salvation: Who's gonna watch it? (Read 13351 times)