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etiolate

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22680 on: February 05, 2014, 02:59:25 AM »
Still playing Testament of Sherlock Holmes, but also Octodad (fun, funny and frustrating all at once.), and Wolf Among Us. Of course, continually playing Guild Wars 2, as well.

Bebpo

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« Reply #22681 on: February 05, 2014, 03:09:54 AM »
I want to get Octodad but I have a feeling it'll be free on PS4 PS+ since they were showing it a lot to show off indie games on ps4.

Bebpo

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« Reply #22682 on: February 05, 2014, 05:39:27 AM »
So I pop in FFXIII-2 like I do every few months to play a bit and the first area I start at, of course, is Academy 400 AF, which if you've played the game you know is the area where you are forced to battle every 10 steps for 2 hours as you run through this big map that ends with an annoying boss fight on top of it.  Apparently it's the worst part of the whole game, and of course, that's where I started lol

At least got it done and out of the way.  Game still looks really nice and sounds great, and after playing the final bosses of Trails SC and La Mulana and Teleglitch I'm so ok with an easy rpg that I just tap O while web browsing on my ipad during standard battles and listen to the nice music hehe

Fifstar

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22683 on: February 05, 2014, 06:14:46 PM »
That fucking last boss in Guacamelee. Can't beat him, probably spent the last 30 minutes on that stupid piece of shit  >:( >:( >:(
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22684 on: February 05, 2014, 06:41:43 PM »
Its easy dude, quit being a pussy. You never remembered patterns as a kid?
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22685 on: February 05, 2014, 07:02:30 PM »
Got him now, had problems with throwing the lava junk at him.
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magus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22686 on: February 05, 2014, 07:52:16 PM »
since discovering retro achievements i've been dicking up with some emulators again, this is what i've got so far do note that the gold overlay is because i'm playing with save state disabled as otherwise you could just save state your way to victory

it almost feels like back when i got my first 1000 on the 360... ah, memories
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Bebpo

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« Reply #22687 on: February 05, 2014, 09:03:14 PM »
Magus, that's kind of neat.

Got him now, had problems with throwing the lava junk at him.

Yeah, there's one attack I could never reliably figure out how to dodge, but I got lucky and he didn't do it often.  I was talking to a friend who said the same thing.  The boss is fine but one of the attacks is kind of iffy.

Positive Touch

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22688 on: February 05, 2014, 09:22:57 PM »
so, magoose named himself after teasel bonne huh....  :hitler
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magus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22689 on: February 05, 2014, 09:30:46 PM »
so, magoose named himself after teasel bonne huh....  :hitler

back when i played monster hunter 3 i always got a huge kick everytime someone understood and mentioned it :jawalrus

i always wanted to have a villain from an obscure game as my nick so i needed another nick after realizing that chrono trigger wasn't obscure enough
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22690 on: February 05, 2014, 09:31:12 PM »
I finished "Rain" on PS3 since it was like $2 on PSN. Pretty well done game, pretty basic as well.

The story is unfortunately not as grimdark as I had hoped based on the setting.
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Rufus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22691 on: February 05, 2014, 09:41:47 PM »
Didn't end up grinding in DDS to beat beat it, but I was about two hours from the end anyway, so I just watched someone else (with an over-powered party) play the last few bits. Not that it illuminated anything, but I'm done with that game now. Instead of moving right on to DDS2 I started Wild Arms 5. So far, so anime. Very anime, in fact.

StealthFan

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« Reply #22692 on: February 05, 2014, 10:10:41 PM »
Didn't end up grinding in DDS to beat beat it, but I was about two hours from the end anyway, so I just watched someone else (with an over-powered party) play the last few bits. Not that it illuminated anything, but I'm done with that game now. Instead of moving right on to DDS2 I started Wild Arms 5. So far, so anime. Very anime, in fact.

I did the same with DDS :heh I said "Fuck this shit" and youtubed the rest. To be fair I had just seen my father die like two weeks before playing it, so I really didn't have the mental fortitude to deal with frustration.

Wild Arms 5 is so anime. I thought it was...ok. I only played a few hours before sending it back as it just wasn't my type of thang.

I am currently playing Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition Remix. Got it off Gamefly. It's pretty good, and I can already tell there is a ton of content.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22693 on: February 05, 2014, 10:13:03 PM »
DDS final dungeon :bow

The music :bow :rejoice

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Rufus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22694 on: February 05, 2014, 10:38:16 PM »
Fuck those teleporting hallways. >:(

I did the same with DDS :heh I said "Fuck this shit" and youtubed the rest. To be fair I had just seen my father die like two weeks before playing it, so I really didn't have the mental fortitude to deal with frustration.
I'm like that all the time. :shaq2
I used to finish everything out of principle when I was younger, but those times are over. I really have to love a game to let it waste my time or annoy me with dumb mechanics.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 10:39:59 PM by Rufus »

Bebpo

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« Reply #22695 on: February 05, 2014, 10:53:24 PM »
Started playing Kid Icarus Uprising.  Spent most of the first level trying to make the controls comfortable for me as a lefty.  I think maybe I've got it ok now with aiming on the left analog and movement on the right buttons.  I'll see how stage 2 goes...  Very nice music though and feels very Sin & Punishment and I love some S&P so I'm down for this.  But wish it was on the Wii with analogue + pointer instead like S&P2.  That game felt great to control.

Also started playing SRW OG Saga: Masou Kishin / Lord of Elemental II, but even though it's fun I checked the wiki and it's like 50-70 hours long and I don't have time for that 2 months before the next big 100 hour+ mainline SRW comes out with Z3-1.

Think I'm going to start playing Nier (gotta get hyped for Drakenguard 3!) finally this weekend, and Spelunky while continuing through FFXIII-2 to get ready for LR and La Mulana.

I finished "Rain" on PS3 since it was like $2 on PSN. Pretty well done game, pretty basic as well.

The story is unfortunately not as grimdark as I had hoped based on the setting.

Cool, I was thinking about playing this soon.  Wanna play some short 2-5 hour games for a while and picked this up on that PSN sale.

Bebpo

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« Reply #22696 on: February 06, 2014, 01:14:03 AM »
So...I played a lot more Kid Icarus Uprising.  This game is really good and is basically Panzer Dragoon/S&P in the flying parts and Virtua-On with the weapon and skill variety of DMC on foot.  All the different loot and weapon types and difficulty levels and hidden areas make the game fun and replayable and the combat is great.  If only the controls weren't kind of shitty for left-hands it'd be the Bayonetta of 3DS, hell if it just was ported to the Wii or Wii U with pointer controls it'd be the Bayonetta of those systems.  As is, I really dig it but it's sort of like the bit I played of Wonderful 101 where the gameplay is fantastic but the controls always feel like they're fighting against you, kind of like the camera controls in Ninja Gaiden 1 on Xbox. 

I tried using the circle pad and replicating the right hand experience with the left hand on the touchpad for aiming and right hand on the circle anlog for walking, but coming from 15 years of post-Saturn analog stick games where I'm used to moving with the left hand and aiming with the right...it just doesn't click for me and feels awkward.  So in the end I'm doing it like this:  Air Parts:  Just playing it like a right handed person with left hand on thumbstick and right on touchpad to aim and shoot.  Works ok even if I'm not that accurate.  Ground Parts:  Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker style, left hand analog movement, right hand using the 4 buttons as an aiming camera.  Again loses some speed and accuracy but still sorta works and lets me enjoy it.

But man, if they just let you use the circle pad (which they freaking support) so that left analog = move, right analog = shoot, the game would be like EVERY OTHER GAME and would play great.  Sakurai's remarks that it would unbalance the multiplayer because touchpad users would destroy analog players...well then those analog players could learn to use the touchpad!  It's just another "we're Japan so we are behind in every single advancement of technology in game design now" :\

Anyhow, game is still hot stuff.  I like Sakurai as a game designer a lot (Kirby Canvas Curse & Smash are really well designed enjoyable games) and the game seems fantastically polished and full of content, so I'll deal with the controls and enjoy this one.  But man, as a left hand player I will be so glad when the days of touchpad gaming are gone so I don't have to deal with this shit.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 01:44:12 AM by Bebpo »

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22697 on: February 06, 2014, 02:04:22 AM »
Jesus, I looked at howlongtobeat.com for Icarus as I figured it'd be a 4-6 hour Sin & Punishment style shmup that I could get through in a day or two before jumping into the longer Zelda Lttp2, and wtf the main game is 11-23 hours, and 50 hours to do 100%.  WTF.  I mean, it's good that the game is so meaty and long with so many stages and so many weapons and abilities, but it's just odd for the genre. 

Himu

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« Reply #22698 on: February 06, 2014, 02:07:44 AM »
How much of a rail shooter is Kid Icarus?
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Raban

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« Reply #22699 on: February 06, 2014, 06:18:27 AM »
and a lot worse than the shooting sections

Bebpo

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« Reply #22700 on: February 06, 2014, 07:29:51 AM »
Well, yeah, so far about 20% in they're worse, but that's mainly frustration I'm hitting with the control scheme.  The overall concept where you're doing step dash shoots straight out of Virtual On, picking for a ton of different weapons that have LOOT stats straight out of Musou games and even weapon fusion right out of those or rpgs, with lots of enemies all with unique patterns and Bayonetta/DMC style just-dodging and countering during openings; all that stuff creates a pretty deep and varied fast combat action game.  Add in the really great difficulty slider where you can choose from like 9 difficulties every stage and the harder you make it, the better the loot and money you get, and you got a cool game.  So far it's just being held down by the usual 3DS tech requiring small, empty environments and the controls fighting you, especially if you're left handed.  It's interesting and fun though. 

The rail parts otoh so far are just a good simple rail shooter.  You can't even lock-on to a bunch of enemies and let go like Panzer or Rez or Sin & Punishment unless I'm missing something (maybe it's a skill or different weapon class I haven't tried yet?).  They're fun stuff and graphically look nice and are paced well.  Great music too.  But I find the ground stuff more exciting and fun even if I'm getting annoyed a lot at the same time haha.

Then again I'm not sure how I will feel 9 hours later after 25 levels of this.  Will see how it goes, but enjoying it for sure right now.

Rufus

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« Reply #22701 on: February 06, 2014, 08:46:53 AM »
It's funny that Sakurai, a guy with what sounds like crippling RSI would design such a control scheme. They made a stand. Satire turned into reality there.

cool breeze

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« Reply #22702 on: February 06, 2014, 12:03:33 PM »
yeah, kid icarus on wii would've been great.  better aiming and a dedicated dash button would've made it much, much better.  some of the later stages have mild platforming and the nub is so twitchy that pit dashes off the edge when you just want to walk.

fistfulofmetal

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« Reply #22703 on: February 06, 2014, 12:56:41 PM »
as far as I can see I only have a few things left to do in Demon's Souls

--Finish Valley of Defilement (finished Leechmonger)
--Finish Bolotarian Palace (on the last level)

I'm not gonna bother with Old Monk.
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« Reply #22704 on: February 06, 2014, 01:47:33 PM »
Still playing Dead Or Alive 5 Ultimate.  They just patched the game to v1.04 this week, updating it to match the arcade version.  New character Marie Rose will be added soon.  I love that they are still supporting this game with content...take note, Namco.   

But boo to Tecmo Koei for charging $3 a pop for fucking 30 second real-time gravure "movies" for the females. 
:what

The latest DLC is also even more perverted than usual!

 :nsfw :nsfw :nsfw
:nsfw :nsfw :nsfw
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 01:49:51 PM by bork laser »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22705 on: February 06, 2014, 03:35:15 PM »
Still playing Dead Or Alive 5 Ultimate.  They just patched the game to v1.04 this week, updating it to match the arcade version.  New character Marie Rose will be added soon.  I love that they are still supporting this game with content...take note, Namco.   

But boo to Tecmo Koei for charging $3 a pop for fucking 30 second real-time gravure "movies" for the females. 
:what

The latest DLC is also even more perverted than usual!

 :nsfw :nsfw :nsfw
:nsfw :nsfw :nsfw

Nice to see DOA still being DOA

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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22706 on: February 07, 2014, 08:43:40 AM »
So I decided for some dumb reason to go through my steam backlog alphabetically, and knock out the 400+ indie games from various bundles and stuff.  This was a bad idea.  The first two games I played were:

1000 Amps - At first this is kind of creative and interesting platformer/puzzler.  But then because the map is awful and the map is HUGE, eventually you get totally lost and traversal is a time consuming pain in the ass and you spend hours wandering around to find the one room you need.  I think there's a neat concept in there, but game is not really fun.  Thumbs down.

A.R.E.S. - Megaman X ripoff.  Only played the first few levels but seemed decent but nothing special.  Like a C-grade megaman clone.  Pass.

Big Barry Jazz

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« Reply #22707 on: February 07, 2014, 12:37:53 PM »
So I decided for some dumb reason to go through my steam backlog alphabetically, and knock out the 400+ indie games from various bundles and stuff.  This was a bad idea.  The first two games I played were:

If you're the kind of person who throws any old game from a bundle on to their account, that sounds like a damn fine way to kill any interest in gaming for a good while. Still, you could have done far worse than the games you mention.

MoxManiac

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« Reply #22708 on: February 07, 2014, 12:42:38 PM »
Tales of Xillia  :fbm
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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22709 on: February 07, 2014, 02:38:13 PM »
Eldritch is kiiiiiiiiiiiinda disappointing. Saw a lot people calling it "first person Spelunky," but it doesn't have nearly the nuance, learning curve or difficulty of it. It's alright. Glad I got it in a bundle and didn't pay full price.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #22710 on: February 07, 2014, 05:13:19 PM »
So I decided for some dumb reason to go through my steam backlog alphabetically, and knock out the 400+ indie games from various bundles and stuff.  This was a bad idea.  The first two games I played were:

If you're the kind of person who throws any old game from a bundle on to their account, that sounds like a damn fine way to kill any interest in gaming for a good while. Still, you could have done far worse than the games you mention.

Yeah, I learned real quickly that it was a bad idea.  Not because I'll necessarily play a lot of bad games that will make me hate gaming, but because I'll waste hours playing a lot of mediocre/nothing-special titles that I could be spending on actually really good games of which there are plenty in my backlog.  Part of me though is at least curious to spend 30-60 mins at least trying all these games I've gotten over the years through bundles (yeah I add everything to Steam/Desura) or bought for $1-2 during sales to find some hidden gems in the rough.

I mean, at first 1000 amps was kind of like that and made me want to spend 4-5 hours completing it in one night.  It was a really neat puzzle game with a nice art style and sound design.  But after finding all of the power ups besides the final one and finishing 70% of the map in 2 hours, spending another 2-3 hours lost trying to find the final rooms to finish it, especially at 4am in the morning, was...not.fun.  It's a good game with a not that good map that is terribly telegraphed to the player.  A.R.E.S. on the other hand, after an hour with the game was enough to tell me all I needed to know about it and I was good to move on.  Also tried A New Beginning from Daedalic and the animation/art was really nice, but wasn't really interested in playing it atm.   

Eldritch is kiiiiiiiiiiiinda disappointing. Saw a lot people calling it "first person Spelunky," but it doesn't have nearly the nuance, learning curve or difficulty of it. It's alright. Glad I got it in a bundle and didn't pay full price.

Is it a fun Rogue-like though?  After 868-Hack and Teleglitch I'm really feeling Rogue-likes right now which is why I grabbed that bundle.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 05:18:13 PM by Bebpo »

BobFromPikeCreek

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« Reply #22711 on: February 07, 2014, 05:22:26 PM »
It's ok. I didn't notice a lot of diversity in the levels the game generated, and the enemies mostly just shoot fireballs if they get alerted. It's also incredibly short. Apparently new game + is where it gets a bit more interesting, so I'll let you know when I get there.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22712 on: February 07, 2014, 05:43:44 PM »
Played 3 hours of RERevelations on WiiU and I'm kind of getting used to the hilariously massive stick dead zone.  But not really.

WTF Capcom.

Bebpo

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« Reply #22713 on: February 07, 2014, 06:19:06 PM »
Yesterday I also watched all the Doublefine Amenesia Fortnight vids and voted while also playing all their prototypes from the previous year that I never got around to trying.  I mainly voted based on realistic expectations of Doublefine being a so-so gameplay developer with low budgets so which of these ideas could actually prove to be enjoyable experiences.  Went with the Dear Leader sim game, Steed, the horse simulator by the guy who did the horse riding in Uncharted 3 (which was great there), and something else that I forgot.

Playing the prototypes of their old stuff...yeah, not so good.  Autonomous was a neat concept, though it was just one area to mess around with and I dunno how long the concept would hold for a full game as I was pretty bored by 10 mins in, Black Lake was the best "game" imo and was actually a decent little polished title that wasn't particularly fun, but it was a working game.  White Birch was holy shit bad Psychonauts platforming and makes me NEVER want a Doublefine platforming-only game.  Hack n' Slash was kind of polished and a neat gimmick but also got boring after about 15 mins.  Brazen was actually pretty solid as a budget Monster Hunter clone.  The kind of game you'd buy for like $1 on a cd at walmart.  Costume Quest prototype makes me see why they made it into a full game as the Prototype is pretty cool and shows the potential for a neat rpg game (which unfortunately the full game didn't capitalize on), Happy Monsters was a cool tech demo, and Space Station DF-9 seemed interesting and I'm actually curious about the early alpha version now, looks like Sim Space Station?  I don't know if Doublefine has the talent to actually make anything near a Sid Meier quality simulation game, but if they do, that concept is engaging.


So basically, the feeling I got from all their stuff is that Doublefine, like always, is great at coming out with creative original ideas for games.  Unfortunately, like always, they don't know how to make them FUN games to play.  It's kind of been the problem the studio has struggled with for years and I really wish they'd hire some pure gameplay/fun game designer leads who could work with the creative staff at turning the concepts into something that would actually make for a good game.  Because really, out of all the prototypes from last year, the only one that seemed like it could be fun is this Space Station Sim that they're pushing forward with, and that's only if they do it really well in the gameplay department which, since it's doublefine, I will be pretty skeptical about until it's done and out and has positive word of mouth.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22714 on: February 07, 2014, 11:23:36 PM »
Except that it's really fun.

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Raban

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22715 on: February 07, 2014, 11:49:42 PM »
Esch just doesn't like being the Batman. He'd rather be a cigarillo recruiting whores in France than be an ass-kicking detective with a cape.

Rahxephon91

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« Reply #22716 on: February 08, 2014, 12:27:28 AM »
Finally got around to Arkham City GOTY. It's fun and playable and all, but it just feels so workmanlike and by the numbers. It feels a lot like a reskinned Assassin's Creed in almost every way.
Except the combat is'nt total crap.

StealthFan

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« Reply #22717 on: February 08, 2014, 01:27:58 AM »
AC a reskinned...AC? :what

Arkham is so much better.
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Raban

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« Reply #22718 on: February 08, 2014, 01:35:27 AM »
I kinda agree with Esch. What do you guys think makes Arkham better? I don't even think City is the best Arkham game. At least Assassin's Creed has the bonus of giving you multiple cities to explore, and they're all pretty colorful and varied.

Every setting in Arkham City looks like wet rocks and sausages.

Rahxephon91

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« Reply #22719 on: February 08, 2014, 03:10:01 AM »
I've only played up until Brotherhood where I just gave up on the series. For one I wanted Assassin's Creed to stay more like 1. Where the game would be more focused on the routine structure of you figuring out how to Assassinate the target and then do it of course. The problem with one was that the investigations were boring and the assassinations all the same. So instead of turning it into just another open world with still boring assassin missions how about fix the actual problems? Make investigations more interesting. Make the player figure out what path (of many) he wants to take to kill the target. Each target is unique, has it's own personality, and cool scenario. SO you investigate, hell maybe do something in the open world that can change the targets behavior.

Well the series didn't go this way. It seemingly added a lot of collecting. Open world missions that don't excite. I wanted the game to just be the Assassinations like the 1st game.

What makes Batman better to me is for one the combat. It's not like Batman combat is some holy grail, but it's fast and throws tons of enemies at you that are sometimes varied. So the game at it's best becomes rhythmic in you're button presses and it does feel like enemies actually attack so you do need to keep countering and moving. Compared to the Creed's I've played they never achieve this. It's either wait around until I can counter or mash until the kill animation happens. It never feels fast or rhythmic and thus never fun.

And while it never has super amazing puzzles, the "dungeons" do feel pretty involved as you use your gadgets to advance through them. Plus I think each "dungeon" is pretty unique in City.

So yeah I just think it's a better game. Then again I gave up on Creed awhile ago.

Raban

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« Reply #22720 on: February 08, 2014, 03:36:12 AM »
I dunno, I think I'd be willing to put AC2 above Arkham City. I don't see how the combat is all that different. Spam X until you need to counter with Y. It's especially fun in AC2 if you switch to fists only for the fights, then you can REALLY compare it to Batman. Sure Ezio's animations don't have as much flourish as Batman's, but they're just as brutal.

Sorry you expected more from the AC franchise? But what it became was something pretty similar to the Arkham games. Light platforming here and there mixed in with a lot of combat built around countering enemies.

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« Reply #22721 on: February 08, 2014, 06:00:28 AM »
I dunno, I think I'd be willing to put AC2 above Arkham City. I don't see how the combat is all that different. Spam X until you need to counter with Y. It's especially fun in AC2 if you switch to fists only for the fights, then you can REALLY compare it to Batman. Sure Ezio's animations don't have as much flourish as Batman's, but they're just as brutal.

Sorry you expected more from the AC franchise? But what it became was something pretty similar to the Arkham games. Light platforming here and there mixed in with a lot of combat built around countering enemies.

I haven't played AC2 so I can't compare, but AC1's combat is no way near on the same level as City. Half the mobs in City carry guns so just spamming X will get you killed in no time. You've got to keep an eye on all the armed goons and come up with the correct counter to them once the moment presents itself, decide which special moves to pull off at the right time, deciding whether you've got enough time to leap in for a beat down or if you'll have to leap away, working out how to deal with one of the Abramivici twins and/or a titan whilst still surrounded by a mob, throw in a few gadgets as well, all the while trying to keep your combo going because it feels so damn good. Now I really need to go back and play the Joker's Carnival challenge again.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22722 on: February 08, 2014, 12:24:50 PM »
batman ac combat and puzzles eclipse anything in the ac series very early on in the game. the combat isnt like dmc level or anything, but it does ask more of you than ac ever does. there are multiple types of counters that you have to learn, and there is a very small window to to hit the correct button. ac gives you a huge window to hit counter, and from there you can instantly kill the enemy that is attacking you. like everything else in asscrud it is very forgiving because they want everyone to be able to beat it. puzzles are similar in that theyre not hard, but not pointlessly easy like an asscrud game.
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Himu

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« Reply #22723 on: February 08, 2014, 12:42:20 PM »
Assassin Creeds is on autopilot and boring. It's design laziness. I've never been challenged by an AC game. One of the first things I said playing Batman AC was "how the fuck do I get that riddler thing out of that fucking went?" which is more thought power I put than I did with entire Assassin's Creed franchise combined. Never mind the whole game. I like Assassin's Creed but it's designed like shit. You climb stuff and then you assassinate dudes. You assassinate dudes, and then you climb stuff. But it's never really involving, it's just like...so passive that you forget you're even playing it.

It's just there. It's like a goddamn tv procedural show, like Law and Order. You're baking cookies that afternoon, or doing some homework, and Law and Orders on with its old :flabbynsick self but you're not paying attention. Someone asks,"Hey man, what's up? What are you doing?" "watching law and order", you say, as you bake cookies/do homework/mow the lawn/CLEAN THE ATTIC without glancing at the tv screen.

Assassin's Creed is like that. 

There's like, zero skill involved. Batman is far more varied, requires much more thought power, has better exploration, AND combat. It's such a non contest.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #22724 on: February 08, 2014, 12:50:42 PM »
batman ac combat and puzzles eclipse anything in the ac series very early on in the game. the combat isnt like dmc level or anything, but it does ask more of you than ac ever does. there are multiple types of counters that you have to learn, and there is a very small window to to hit the correct button. ac gives you a huge window to hit counter, and from there you can instantly kill the enemy that is attacking you. like everything else in asscrud it is very forgiving because they want everyone to be able to beat it. puzzles are similar in that theyre not hard, but not pointlessly easy like an asscrud game.

Iirc there's a 100 combo achievement. Getting that achievement felt pretty good. :obama Mastered that games combat. Beat it on hard and shit without the icons and everything. Then I put City on hard mode or something when I got it, and fuck. I'm putting this on normal. I dare you to do that with Assassin's Creed. :umad But you won't. You won't because IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
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« Reply #22725 on: February 08, 2014, 01:09:37 PM »
Arkham City is fun as shit. :tocry :lawd
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« Reply #22726 on: February 08, 2014, 01:53:32 PM »
first time i played ac1 i fucked up trying to enter the city and got into a fight. i killed like 50 guards without dying, til they eventually just stopped coming :badass
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« Reply #22727 on: February 08, 2014, 02:30:38 PM »
There's not a diff between Assassins Creed at Batman? Are you joking breh? Go start a fight in batman and dodge every move and then explore a bit and try to solve riddler puzzles. Then put in any AC, do the same thing, and compare.
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« Reply #22728 on: February 08, 2014, 02:40:53 PM »
This Batman stanning is really surprising. Assassin's Creed 2 is a triple-A game, Arkham City is a polished B game at best.

There's so much more going on in AC2. The sidequests and how they relate to the backstory, upgrading your home town, chasing down thieves across rooftops, customizing your gear and equipment, I could go on and on. Arkham has one thing going for it, the stylish, combo-based combat. Like himu mentioned, reaching milestones like 100-hit and the way you're rewarded with special moves is great, but the core concept is not that different from Ass Creed. And this is all ignoring the fact that the Batman games are riding on the coattail of a license you all clearly have boners for, where Assassin's Creed is an original IP that actually does a fantastic job (at least, in 2 and Bro) of keeping you hooked in to its world.

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« Reply #22729 on: February 08, 2014, 02:53:47 PM »
Assassins Creed 2 is good but not that good. It was pretty passive game experience. Meanwhile, Batman Arkham City was my goty that year iirc.

Assassins Creed is what you play when you want something light. Hey I want something mindless and relaxing. I guess I'll play AC. Doesn't mean it isn't fun, but Batman does tricks around it. I prefer Batman's exploration and combat A LOT more. Especially exploration. Getting cool new moves and weapons to do new shit and solve new puzzles is always a treat. AC is only ever about climbing stuff.
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« Reply #22730 on: February 08, 2014, 03:04:05 PM »
Remind me what glyph puzzles are. That's how forgettable that franchise is.
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« Reply #22731 on: February 08, 2014, 03:05:01 PM »
I mean just look at it.





Batman is fast and quick. The combat is far smoother and reflex heavy. It requires different approached to countering some enemies. The enemies just don't completely sit around like distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. It also asks you to actually move around and you will when there's plenty of enemies around and you just can't counter everything. There's also a sense of urgency in the combat that is completely missing in AC. A gun enemy is something you drop everything  and go after in Batman. It's just better.

Assassins Creed is a garbage series.
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« Reply #22732 on: February 08, 2014, 03:09:10 PM »
Hahaha that AC2 combat video. My law and order comparison is so on the mark. Hahahaha fucking autopilot bullshit franchise

I want AC4 because it takes place in the Caribbean and its got WATER and tropical vistas and PIRATES. But it is an Assassins Creed game. What do I do?! How boring is it compared to the others? Someone know?
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« Reply #22733 on: February 08, 2014, 03:33:52 PM »
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So AC doesn't require different approaches to countering enemies? Are the countering windows and options for lancers, light enemies and heavies the same as standard ones? You clearly didn't think this post through.
You're right, I didn't think it through because I certainly don't remember any of that crap. Why don't I remember? Because it sure didn't seem to change how I played 2 and Bro. It was still stand around as they attack me 1 by 1 and press counter. Who cares if the windows are different if I still play it the same way and do the same thing? So no, it dosen't require different approaches because the only thing I change is when I press Y. In Batman of course I just counter a regular thug, but if a knife dude comes the counter is a bit different, so maybe I counter him or a I jump and move around because I got tons of other dudes also attacking me. I jump over the knife dude to strike his back. A shield guy pops up so I cape him, get some punches t, but not too much because I have to actually counter the dudes attacking me. Oh no gun dud, drop everything go after him and so on and so on. The game isn't rocket science, but the game throws plenty of enemies and different kinds that require different things that the game becomes quick on your feet reflex thinking. None of that is any AC game I played. I do now remember enemies with different weapons in two, but again all that means is I press the counter button at a different time. I don't need to move around, get at the dudes back, there's no real urgency here, and so on. It dosen't really mean crap.

Plus this is even ignoring the stealth stalk system Batman has which is a whole mind game on it's own.

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Fact: the Arkham series doesn't exist today as is if Assassin's Creed isn't around.
So that's how out of arguments we are now. We gotta argue that the series is good because it influenced other series? Ok. That dosen't mean its good. These other series have far eclipsed it.

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If it's such a garbage series, why do so many games use it's blueprint for 70% of the game?
I sure hope you don't go around hating on CoD since you're using this type of argument. Yeah the entire parkour open world game thing is from AC. You're point? The series had some good ideas with the first game that instead of actually fixing it just became another open world game with shitty combat. I'm happy it brought those ideas out, but you know what? It's not that insane to think someone else wouldn't have figured out how to make an open world game where you jump around instead of drive around. I mean jesus there's Spiderman 2 on the PS2.

I mean this is a step above saying "oh it's good because it's popular" or "it's sells well so it must be good". None of this changes that it may or may not suck.

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I guess it's because it's popular and accessible, therefore it's bad.
You're going to pull this crap on people defending Batman? Come on! The Batman games are not some hardcore Japanese mechanics driven Combo game crap. They are just as super accessible and popular as AC. We're hating on AC because it sucks, not because it's popular. Don't give me that crap.

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God forbid something be functional and fluid, and appeal to a lot of people.
Man you must be out of it. No one said anything like this crap. Hell, I said the reason Batman is awesome is because it's functional and fluid. AC isn't fluid. It's wonky and boring. Thats why it sucks when it comes to combat. This has nothing to do with with being popular. I don't know if you know this, but were talking about two AAA western games here. Not a fucking game from Platinum or something.

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That's the worst, right? Like nerd kryptonite.
No the worst is AC and arguments that make complete strawmans out of nothing.
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« Reply #22734 on: February 08, 2014, 03:34:14 PM »

Batman is fast and quick. The combat is far smoother and reflex heavy. It requires different approached to countering some enemies. The enemies just don't completely sit around like distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. It also asks you to actually move around and you will when there's plenty of enemies around and you just can't counter everything. There's also a sense of urgency in the combat that is completely missing in AC. A gun enemy is something you drop everything  and go after in Batman. It's just better.


this is the main difference: difficulty. they are very similar mechanically, but asscrud never demands much of you because there is never a real threat. you can play around with items and stealth to help you win, but if you fuck up all you have to do is stand there and counter a few times to win. its easy mode gameplay. batman isnt iconoclast-hardcore or anything, but it does ask that you develop some skill with the mechanics.

ps i like asscrud
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« Reply #22735 on: February 08, 2014, 03:37:55 PM »
Both series devolved into nothing but collectathon chores.

Source: Finished all Batmans, and All AC up to 3.
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« Reply #22736 on: February 08, 2014, 03:42:28 PM »

I want AC4 because it takes place in the Caribbean and its got WATER and tropical vistas and PIRATES. But it is an Assassins Creed game. What do I do?! How boring is it compared to the others? Someone know?

i like it but yes it is still an asscrud game. if you have severe add and like collectathons then yes it is good and the best of the asscrud games ive played (1,2,brotherhood,liberation). the graphics are boner and the sailing and pirating is fun altho simple of course. towns can still be a chore but theres only a handful of big ones. sidequests are more engaging, and you can challenge yourself in regular missions by working for the well-designed optional achievements. also did i mention the graphics are boner
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« Reply #22737 on: February 08, 2014, 03:49:13 PM »
Sounds hot. Sailing adventures! Hi ho! Hi ho! Swimming in the sea!
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« Reply #22738 on: February 08, 2014, 03:56:17 PM »
arkham City goty 2011
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« Reply #22739 on: February 08, 2014, 04:08:44 PM »
Wait saints row the third came out in 2011 sorry batman you're the runner up
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