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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27180 on: October 16, 2015, 05:14:54 PM »
So I had Xenoblade chronicles for the Wii and got to the point where you have to save the princess in the cave and proceeded to drop it for another game.
I bought a New 3DS a few months back to replace the 3DS I lost and thought "There's only one game that's a New 3DS exclusive, might as well try it." So far it was enjoyable. Then I got to a certain boss (I forgot his name, the mechon with the face that you can't even damage unless you do a chain link attack) and I was like 'Oh yeah...that's right. This is why I dropped this fucking game. I actually don't like it." :doge

Oh well, lesson learned. Thankfully I picked up a copy of Devil Survivor.
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« Reply #27181 on: October 16, 2015, 05:45:52 PM »
Your loss, Devil Survivor is ass. Xenoblade #1
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« Reply #27182 on: October 16, 2015, 06:18:24 PM »
I don't like xenoblade combat.
Devil survivor was $10 might as well try. But I suspect I should have bought SMIV
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« Reply #27183 on: October 16, 2015, 07:19:08 PM »
also the gameplay has neat ideas but i think it fails at execution. your character isn't responsive enough for the bullet hell enemies, and a few specials are way more effective at countering them.

I'm real excited to see what platinum will pull off with the sequel.

For certain, it won't feature an unresponsive character.

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« Reply #27184 on: October 16, 2015, 09:01:04 PM »
I'm having a hard time recommending Chibi Robo Zip Lash. I think the base gameplay is fine, but the progression on the game has to be the stupidest thing. Each time you beat a stage, you use a roulette wheel to determine what level you'll go to next. The first world's map is circular with about 6 levels, and thanks to the roulette gimmick, I've skipped a few levels and I fear I have to keep using the roulette til I get to those skipped levels in order to clear World 1. What a stupid mechanic. Really.


Playing Zelda Tri-Force Heroes's demo. Boy, I thought it was cool to hear that even the demo has online play. But there has to be a string attached because it's Nintendo, right? Right... No friends, random only. Final Destination At least the full game doesn't have that odd limitation (except for the region lock bullshit) Oh well, the people I ended up playing with are pretty good. Shame there's a lot of lag.

As far as the gameplay goes, it went a lot better than I've expected. I had a blast from little what I've managed to play of it before I got disconnected. The shared heart mechanic had me a bit worried, but the game is balanced around that. Will definitely pick up the full game when it releases.
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« Reply #27185 on: October 16, 2015, 09:40:39 PM »
SMT3 So, Matador. Of course. I knew about him long before, that he was the first big stumbling block of the game, that he's easy if you do this and that, yadda yadda. What I want to know: Is every boss after him going to be a gimmick heavy fight with no way of learning the gimmick in-game? Neither Persona 3 or 4 tempted me to whip out a strategy guide (or even so much as a fusion chart) to beat them without wasting a bunch of time experimenting. Am I going to have to look at fusion and ability charts to not waste my time?

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« Reply #27186 on: October 16, 2015, 09:45:39 PM »
SMT3 So, Matador. Of course. I knew about him long before, that he was the first big stumbling block of the game, that he's easy if you do this and that, yadda yadda. What I want to know: Is every boss after him going to be a gimmick heavy fight with no way of learning the gimmick in-game? Neither Persona 3 or 4 tempted me to whip out a strategy guide (or even so much as a fusion chart) to beat them without wasting a bunch of time experimenting. Am I going to have to look at fusion and ability charts to not waste my time?

It's been a long time I played Nocturne (stopped midway through, should maybe try to complete my save one day  :-\ ) but I don't remember the game punching you in the nose so hard after that.
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« Reply #27187 on: October 16, 2015, 09:57:40 PM »
Good, because it's not exciting me at all so far and if it's going to send me to a strategy guide frequently I might as well just move on to something else.

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« Reply #27188 on: October 16, 2015, 10:41:13 PM »
Finished up Castle in the Darkness.  The game is so close, yet so jank.  It's a really, really well laid out and great playing (outside of the jank) Metroidvania.  The map is so well designed with secrets and how the areas connect and the character progression is great and there's like 30+ bosses, hidden weapons, armor, magic.  There's a fantastic sense of exploration throughout the map.  A lot of it is so great which is why I kept playing even after a couple of hundred deaths and an insane amount of frustration and cursing.  But the problem is that it's also kind of jank.  Like there are SERIOUSLY FUCKING HARD platforming bits in this that are on par with the toughest stuff from Super Meat Boy and too many times the game veers into a masochistic I Wanna Be That Guy style game instead of just being a really good retro Metroidvania.  This would be ok, except that the controls are not perfect.  I talked with duckroll a bit about this since he 100%'d the game and he agreed that it feels like the programming is just...off.  Sometimes jumps don't come out as they should or physics don't work as they should and when you are dealing with some of the most instant-kill precision needing segments and it's not even saving every screen like SMB...it's just kind of bullshit and frustrating where you die a lot and if you stick with it you eventually will get it.  But the game often makes things as frustratingly difficult as possible by making you not only have to get through a section to get an item...but then get back out the same way (sometimes even tougher in reverse) to get back to a save point when any one mili-second mistake can instant kill you and make you start all over. 

And then the weapon/combat balance is jank as well.  You get to bosses where you're doing 0 damage basically and then you need to go backtrack and explore because you need to have a weapon you missed and it's real easy to miss things with lots of branching, no map, and warp points very few and far between.  Then at one point you get a certain magic spell and suddenly it destroys every single boss for the rest of the game practically.  There's just very little balance and progress is tied too closely with optional weapons/armor that are easy to miss.

Then you have a ton of bosses which is great, but maybe they should have cut a few and spent more time on the ones in the game because a few have some real bullshit patterns that are way too random.

Basically the game just feels like it needs more polish on everything, more warp points (there's so much backtracking through the same areas to get where you need to go because there isn't a warp point near it), better weapon balance and tighter platforming controls and it'd be a 10/10 metroidvania and the best Castlevania since SoTN.  But with all the jank it's kind of frustrating crap/fun mix and I wouldn't really recommend it.

I mean it's impressive coming from 1 guy from the Ukraine making the whole game himself.  But I'm more looking forward to his next game when he has 2 guys and a QA team to polish it.  Oh yeah and I had 1 crash, 1 glitch to white can't see anything screen and a few getting stuck under an object glitches.  Yup.  So good, so jank, man that was frustrating.

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« Reply #27189 on: October 17, 2015, 10:34:29 AM »
Some random stuff:

Metal Gear Solid V - about 3 or 4 more missions to go, 20 side ops to go. Hopefully finishing it up soon finally.

Dragon Quest Heroes - really cool with a lot of fanservice so far. This is my first Musou game, it's a little stiffer in controls than I was expecting (for some reason I expect every character action game to play like Bayonetta so it's my fault :P ) but damn, the music and SFX are to die for.

Velldeselba Senki - I wish I knew what was going on since this game looks really cool, and there's absolutely nothing about it on the English internet. It's kind of a steampunk (before that stuff was popular) flight sim / 2D RPG. Imagine a primitive Skies of Arcadia overworld but Suikoden towns. The graphics are early PS1 but still look bright and colorful, with large and expressive sprites, and a ton of anime FMV. Music is great, too. I couldn't figure out what to do after you get out of the first town, and was just flying around to nowhere.





Kirby's Dream Course - A bit more convoluted and less user-friendly than I thought it would be. Ehh, not really too into it at this stage.
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« Reply #27190 on: October 17, 2015, 11:37:03 AM »
Picked up Insect Glaive in MH4U.  I'm trash at it.  :fbm

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« Reply #27191 on: October 17, 2015, 05:20:10 PM »
SMT3 So, Matador. Of course. I knew about him long before, that he was the first big stumbling block of the game, that he's easy if you do this and that, yadda yadda. What I want to know: Is every boss after him going to be a gimmick heavy fight with no way of learning the gimmick in-game? Neither Persona 3 or 4 tempted me to whip out a strategy guide (or even so much as a fusion chart) to beat them without wasting a bunch of time experimenting. Am I going to have to look at fusion and ability charts to not waste my time?

This was the first RPG that I bought, and I did so because Dante was on the cover (false advertisement! :maf). The Matador fight wasn't too bad since you can get a fool proof set-up to beating him, but after that the game opens up real wide and I found it very easy to get lost, not knowing where to go or what to do and which demons to focus on building up, etc. And by all accounts it doesn't seem to let up in that regard. I tried to play it some time later, after having played some other RPGs (notably the Digital Devil Saga games, which are baby's first SMT type games) and it was just way too tedious. Which is a shame because I love more or less everything about it, besides the 'having to play it' bit.

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« Reply #27192 on: October 17, 2015, 05:47:57 PM »
i really wish rpgs had a free roam option so you go exploring without having to deal with battles all the time. i feel like more and more ios rpgs are doing this and its great.
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« Reply #27193 on: October 17, 2015, 07:53:01 PM »
This was the first RPG that I bought, and I did so because Dante was on the cover (false advertisement! :maf). The Matador fight wasn't too bad since you can get a fool proof set-up to beating him, but after that the game opens up real wide and I found it very easy to get lost, not knowing where to go or what to do and which demons to focus on building up, etc. And by all accounts it doesn't seem to let up in that regard. I tried to play it some time later, after having played some other RPGs (notably the Digital Devil Saga games, which are baby's first SMT type games) and it was just way too tedious. Which is a shame because I love more or less everything about it, besides the 'having to play it' bit.
Rough way to start. Probably missed the press-turn system in other games.
I used to be OK with the tedium, but I don't have the patience any more. Getting old I suppose. I still grind in ARPGs, because sweet sweet loot, but in JRPGs it's just unbearable to me. SMT3 apparently being a strategy guide game just makes it worse*. Shame, too, because much like you I appreciate everything else it does.

*First FAQ I looked at recommended leveling to 18. I was 16 when I first ran into Matador. :doge

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« Reply #27194 on: October 17, 2015, 08:07:39 PM »
Yeah Nocturne is definitely a large game. I'm not even sure where I was last time I played, but the optional dungeon is vast as all hell. I can see why one would prefer a more focused experience... as I pretty much did, since I ended P3 but not Nocturne.
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« Reply #27195 on: October 17, 2015, 08:12:49 PM »
Persona 3 Portable is my fav rpg probably, but the dating sim stuff grates real bad trying to play it a second time (ng+) imo.

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« Reply #27196 on: October 17, 2015, 08:19:09 PM »
Press turn is one of those battle systems that requires so much mental input that you experience marginal losses, i.e. things like the short loading of a battle begins to grate and grate as you progress. The Dark Hour in Persona 3 was an OK way of limiting this but to quote an amateur designer I used to have flame wars with about JRPGs, if your solution to a system-based problem is to make it occur less, you should probably be redesigning your system.

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« Reply #27197 on: October 17, 2015, 08:31:23 PM »
I didn't understand anything in the post above and I'm only four beers deep :doge

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« Reply #27198 on: October 17, 2015, 08:45:20 PM »
Press turn is one of those battle systems that requires so much mental input that you experience marginal losses, i.e. things like the short loading of a battle begins to grate and grate as you progress. The Dark Hour in Persona 3 was an OK way of limiting this but to quote an amateur designer I used to have flame wars with about JRPGs, if your solution to a system-based problem is to make it occur less, you should probably be redesigning your system.
Oh for sure, the animations eventually become really annoying no matter what. Any delay, really. That's why I still love FF12. Minimized input for most brainless actions, a bit of tinkering here and there for bosses. :lawd

The only other turn based systems that I loved were Grandia's action bar and Dragon Quarter, for the pre-fight kills/weakening and combo setups once things start. Dragon Quest gets special mention for overall speed, but it gets old much faster than the aforementioned.

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« Reply #27199 on: October 17, 2015, 10:26:26 PM »
It was all downhill for JRPGs after they stopped making Grandia.

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« Reply #27200 on: October 17, 2015, 11:01:07 PM »
Dating sim stuff the best part of persona games

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« Reply #27201 on: October 18, 2015, 12:15:47 AM »
I didn't understand anything in the post above and I'm only four beers deep :doge

The modern MegaTen battle system is great by itself but it really doesn't work well with the traditional JRPG dungeon design of balancing tactical thinking in battle with strategic thinking outside of battle. The mental fatigue and "battle high" you carry as a dungeon progresses means that your ability to tolerate the crap that's bogged down the genre since it went 3D (e.g. loading, animations) diminishes considerably and instead of being a pleasant experience it becomes an exercise in endurance. A solution to rectify the situation was to make the dungeons more of a sprint race than a marathon with the the Dark Hour conceit but this ends up feeling like a band-aid instead of a solution.

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« Reply #27202 on: October 18, 2015, 12:40:13 AM »
ah, well, the RPG non-player is 7 beers deep & here to tell you that this is an inherent problem with the inferior turn-based battle systems of RPGs and Persona is as helpless to correct it as anyone. 


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« Reply #27203 on: October 18, 2015, 11:48:47 AM »
I couldn't bring myself to finish that game. I loved Grandia and Grandia 2. :stahp

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« Reply #27204 on: October 18, 2015, 01:36:26 PM »
It was all downhill for JRPGs after they stopped making Grandia.

Grandia 3 sucked, so it makes sense that they stopped making them.

Story is an abomination, but the gameplay is just fine  :yeshrug

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« Reply #27205 on: October 18, 2015, 02:40:10 PM »
I need to play Grandia 3, Xtreme and Parallel Trippers. I never see Xtreme in stores, is it rare?
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« Reply #27206 on: October 18, 2015, 04:59:52 PM »
Its gone up in value, expect to spend between 30-40
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« Reply #27207 on: October 18, 2015, 08:25:04 PM »
Warming up the PS Triple before Zesteria comes out on Tuesday. Decided to play Sly Cooper 2. And um, ya, its Sly Cooper
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« Reply #27208 on: October 18, 2015, 08:25:59 PM »
Reaaaaaally enjoying Persona 4 Dancing All Night.  Did not expect this, since I've haven't gotten into a music game in a while since Ouendan/EBA/DJ Portable Max 1/2.  But the songs are great, and there's some damn good patterns that really put you in the groove.  Really great graphics too.  Skipping the story mode entirely cause visual novels are zzzzzzzzzzzzz, and just playing through free mode and it's a great music game.

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« Reply #27209 on: October 18, 2015, 08:45:00 PM »
Reaaaaaally enjoying Persona 4 Dancing All Night.  Did not expect this, since I've haven't gotten into a music game in a while since Ouendan/EBA/DJ Portable Max 1/2.  But the songs are great, and there's some damn good patterns that really put you in the groove.  Really great graphics too.  Skipping the story mode entirely cause visual novels are zzzzzzzzzzzzz, and just playing through free mode and it's a great music game.

There's two songs (IIRC) that you have to beat Story Mode to unlock, but you can fast-forward all the text in Story Mode.
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« Reply #27210 on: October 18, 2015, 08:50:08 PM »
I played World of Tanks all weekend and realized I should have paid for Premium at the end of it. I'd probably have another 1M+ in Silver.

I'm off Blood Dragon for the time being; I was getting motion sick, and I don't know why. FPSs have had this effect on my old ass for a few years, but it was really pronounced. I will try it again on a smaller screen.

I'm back on Just Cause 2 after a year-plus break, finally getting the hang of it. I played the original to 100% completion, and I'm down with Avalanche's games in general. I need to get my placed-explosive ammo count up. I can only carry three right now. :-/

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« Reply #27211 on: October 19, 2015, 01:11:29 AM »
Warming up the PS Triple before Zesteria comes out on Tuesday. Decided to play Sly Cooper 2. And um, ya, its Sly Cooper

play kingdom hearts 2.5 ya dangus
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« Reply #27212 on: October 19, 2015, 01:28:56 AM »
Blood Dragon used to make me feel ill too chrono and I'm not prone to motion sickness. I think the Farcry engine doesn't do the neon lighting very well.

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« Reply #27213 on: October 19, 2015, 01:41:14 AM »
Reaaaaaally enjoying Persona 4 Dancing All Night.  Did not expect this, since I've haven't gotten into a music game in a while since Ouendan/EBA/DJ Portable Max 1/2.  But the songs are great, and there's some damn good patterns that really put you in the groove.  Really great graphics too.  Skipping the story mode entirely cause visual novels are zzzzzzzzzzzzz, and just playing through free mode and it's a great music game.

Just skip the text in story mode and breeze through it, otherwise you miss out on some songs/customization that only unlocks once you've done so.

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« Reply #27214 on: October 19, 2015, 05:39:34 AM »
Blood Dragon used to make me feel ill too chrono and I'm not prone to motion sickness. I think the Farcry engine doesn't do the neon lighting very well.

Holyshit, I can't tell you how relieved I am to hear that. I mean, I played a heap of Borderlands on 360, and would get sick after several hours. I get sick inside an hour with Blood Dragon. It took me some time to recognize the queasiness. I've still got Rage, Borderlands 2, and Quake 4 in the backlog, so I'll have to give them each a try without bias.

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« Reply #27215 on: October 19, 2015, 09:28:01 AM »
Warming up the PS Triple before Zesteria comes out on Tuesday. Decided to play Sly Cooper 2. And um, ya, its Sly Cooper

play kingdom hearts 2.5 ya dangus

i dont want to start an RPG up since I'm horny for Zesteria


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« Reply #27216 on: October 19, 2015, 09:28:39 AM »
Finished up Castle in the Darkness.  The game is so close, yet so jank.  It's a really, really well laid out and great playing (outside of the jank) Metroidvania.  The map is so well designed with secrets and how the areas connect and the character progression is great and there's like 30+ bosses, hidden weapons, armor, magic.  There's a fantastic sense of exploration throughout the map.  A lot of it is so great which is why I kept playing even after a couple of hundred deaths and an insane amount of frustration and cursing.  But the problem is that it's also kind of jank.  Like there are SERIOUSLY FUCKING HARD platforming bits in this that are on par with the toughest stuff from Super Meat Boy and too many times the game veers into a masochistic I Wanna Be That Guy style game instead of just being a really good retro Metroidvania.  This would be ok, except that the controls are not perfect.  I talked with duckroll a bit about this since he 100%'d the game and he agreed that it feels like the programming is just...off.  Sometimes jumps don't come out as they should or physics don't work as they should and when you are dealing with some of the most instant-kill precision needing segments and it's not even saving every screen like SMB...it's just kind of bullshit and frustrating where you die a lot and if you stick with it you eventually will get it.  But the game often makes things as frustratingly difficult as possible by making you not only have to get through a section to get an item...but then get back out the same way (sometimes even tougher in reverse) to get back to a save point when any one mili-second mistake can instant kill you and make you start all over. 

And then the weapon/combat balance is jank as well.  You get to bosses where you're doing 0 damage basically and then you need to go backtrack and explore because you need to have a weapon you missed and it's real easy to miss things with lots of branching, no map, and warp points very few and far between.  Then at one point you get a certain magic spell and suddenly it destroys every single boss for the rest of the game practically.  There's just very little balance and progress is tied too closely with optional weapons/armor that are easy to miss.

Then you have a ton of bosses which is great, but maybe they should have cut a few and spent more time on the ones in the game because a few have some real bullshit patterns that are way too random.

Basically the game just feels like it needs more polish on everything, more warp points (there's so much backtracking through the same areas to get where you need to go because there isn't a warp point near it), better weapon balance and tighter platforming controls and it'd be a 10/10 metroidvania and the best Castlevania since SoTN.  But with all the jank it's kind of frustrating crap/fun mix and I wouldn't really recommend it.

I mean it's impressive coming from 1 guy from the Ukraine making the whole game himself.  But I'm more looking forward to his next game when he has 2 guys and a QA team to polish it.  Oh yeah and I had 1 crash, 1 glitch to white can't see anything screen and a few getting stuck under an object glitches.  Yup.  So good, so jank, man that was frustrating.

I drank with this dude & other dudes from Nicalis that worked on Binding of Issac at E3, hes awesome. I never played his game though.
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« Reply #27217 on: October 19, 2015, 09:29:03 AM »
Finally played through Ground Zeroes... yeah, I thought I heard the game was 3 hours long but I ran through the main mission in 1 hour, probably spent more time in the credits and cutscenes than playing. It seemed a lot easier than MGS5, enemies went down with much fewer hits and it was easier to throw them off your tail. Anyways, I beat that and most of the side ops and the first extra op. Will finish the rest later tonight and then it's back to Phantom Pain.
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« Reply #27218 on: October 19, 2015, 10:27:43 AM »
it was meant to show off pp's gameplay changes so playing it second i could see how it'd be really easy, like just another level in pp. Best part about it was the mission with all the mgs1 references.
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« Reply #27219 on: October 20, 2015, 02:34:03 AM »
Finished P4 Dancing on free mode normal.  Good stuff.  Hard mode is pretty damn hard!  The mixing up of the double presses with single presses really close together just messes up my brain visually and it's hard to follow the patterns.  But normal was fun and there were some cool remix tracks in there.  Definitely worth like $20-30.  Now I'm in the mood for music games again.  Time to replay EBA!

Reaaaaaally enjoying Persona 4 Dancing All Night.  Did not expect this, since I've haven't gotten into a music game in a while since Ouendan/EBA/DJ Portable Max 1/2.  But the songs are great, and there's some damn good patterns that really put you in the groove.  Really great graphics too.  Skipping the story mode entirely cause visual novels are zzzzzzzzzzzzz, and just playing through free mode and it's a great music game.

There's two songs (IIRC) that you have to beat Story Mode to unlock, but you can fast-forward all the text in Story Mode.

Still a pain in the butt, but doing it.

Are there any DLC songs?  I'm playing the JPN version on my US account so I can't access the DLC stuff.  Curious if there's any cool remixes I should youtube.  Surprised there was no velvet room mix song.

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« Reply #27220 on: October 20, 2015, 02:44:13 AM »
How is the story compared to the Persona 4 Arena games? About the same quality of writing, or worse?

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« Reply #27221 on: October 20, 2015, 02:44:58 AM »
How is the story compared to the Persona 4 Arena? About the same quality of writing, or worse?

Dunno, I skipped the whole thing.  Looooooooong visual novel stuff.

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« Reply #27222 on: October 20, 2015, 02:46:50 AM »
I thought that was okay so I will probably be fine then.

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« Reply #27223 on: October 20, 2015, 02:48:49 AM »
How is the story compared to the Persona 4 Arena games? About the same quality of writing, or worse?

Literally the same plot, only with more dancing. THE POWER OF BONDS WILL CONQUER ALL, etc.

Surprised there was no velvet room mix song.

Finish story mode.  :P

All the DLC tracks are listed here: http://www.atlus.com/p4dan/dlc/ Most of them are copy/pasted from the animation and the game set to either credits and opening and dont have dancers tied to them. The only new remix DLC are The Fog (ATLUS Konishi remix) and Heaven (ATOLS remix) with their respective DLC characters.

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« Reply #27224 on: October 20, 2015, 11:25:12 AM »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27225 on: October 20, 2015, 11:36:59 AM »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27226 on: October 20, 2015, 11:40:56 AM »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27227 on: October 20, 2015, 03:31:58 PM »
How is the story compared to the Persona 4 Arena games? About the same quality of writing, or worse?

Literally the same plot, only with more dancing. THE POWER OF BONDS WILL CONQUER ALL, etc.

Surprised there was no velvet room mix song.

Finish story mode.  :P

All the DLC tracks are listed here: http://www.atlus.com/p4dan/dlc/ Most of them are copy/pasted from the animation and the game set to either credits and opening and dont have dancers tied to them. The only new remix DLC are The Fog (ATLUS Konishi remix) and Heaven (ATOLS remix) with their respective DLC characters.

Yeah I just about finished the story mode last night.  Even skipping through all the text I can kind of get a feel for the story and the structure and it's not bad for what it is.  The presentation is really well done and the whole package is just extremely polished.  Seems like a very good game, which caught me as a surprise as a fanservice Persona dancing spinoff sounded like total fluff skippable game.  But it's actually turning out to be one of the better games I've played this year and I've played some good games!  And man, the graphics are insanely good for Vita, probably best looking Vita game and really makes me look forward to P5.  P4 Dancing looks like what a P4 ground up remake on PS4 or PS5 would look like.

Youtube'd the DLC songs and doesn't seem like I'm missing much so whatever.  The Miku song reminds me that I never got the fascination with vocaloid music games.  The singing just sounds crappy compared to having a real singer.  But I respect vocaloid as a way for people to make their music with virtual singers, that's really cool.  Just don't get it as a commercial product.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27228 on: October 20, 2015, 07:45:01 PM »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27229 on: October 21, 2015, 04:40:24 PM »
Did anyone else finish Tales from the Borderlands?  Episode 5 was great and propelled the series to Telltale's second best behind TWD season 1.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27230 on: October 21, 2015, 04:57:20 PM »
I'm still a few episodes behind. I'll try to finish it up this weekend.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27231 on: October 22, 2015, 04:35:18 AM »
How is the story compared to the Persona 4 Arena games? About the same quality of writing, or worse?

Literally the same plot, only with more dancing. THE POWER OF BONDS WILL CONQUER ALL, etc.

Surprised there was no velvet room mix song.

Finish story mode.  :P

All the DLC tracks are listed here: http://www.atlus.com/p4dan/dlc/ Most of them are copy/pasted from the animation and the game set to either credits and opening and dont have dancers tied to them. The only new remix DLC are The Fog (ATLUS Konishi remix) and Heaven (ATOLS remix) with their respective DLC characters.

Am I missing something?  I finished the story mode on normal, it unlocked Kalistigia or whatever in free mode.  I beat that and it unlocked a special chapter in story mode.  I watched all that and....nothing else unlocked.  Where is my velvet room dancing song? :X

Nm, found it.  Eh, I've heard better velvet room remixes.


Still, game was great.  In fact, even skipping the story at 20x speed I think the story was probably better than PQ and I couldn't even make it much into the fighting game spinoff stories.  I think the presentation helped since it was so nice here.  That internally developed for the final year and polished effort really shows.  I'd be cool with them doing a P3 Dancing and a P5 Dancing at some point if they were this quality.  P3 cast feels so neglected with all these P4 spinoffs.  At least they got a little screentime in PQ.

Oh, my favorite tracks were Junes song because it's hilariously awesome, the remix of Shadow World, and the Back Lot song with Yousuke.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27232 on: October 24, 2015, 01:29:38 AM »
First impression of Guitar Hero Live is not that favorable.  The new guitar changes stuff up, but it feels like it just changes stuff up to change stuff up and now re-learning all the normal note patterns is non-intuitive and annoying.  Normal difficulty is boring as hell and Advanced is too tough until you've really got comfortable with your brain-eyes-hands combo registering the new symbols to the corresponding controls.  Doesn't really feel any more like playing a guitar, in fact having only 3 short frets makes it feel even less like a guitar because there's no room to really stretch out your hands into chords.  Not getting the appeal, would rather play Rocksmith if I want a change from the standard arcade-y Rock Band style.

Then Guitar Hero TV is sort hmmm, you can tell it's totally a F2P mode.  But at the same time it lets you play basically the entire DLC catalogue without paying, so I guess I'm sort of alright with that.  I don't like that there's no difficulty level selection off the bat, so you're playing through hours of single note super boring gameplay.

Also the presentation is Dirt 2 levels of terrible.  Keeps taking away control from the player to be all HEY AWESOME DUDE CHECK THIS SHIZNIT OUT!!!!!! :|  This game definitely is pushing hard away from being a "video game that you play" and instead trying to be a mainstream joe social experience thing.  Blah.

Will give it a week, but yeah not feeling it.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27233 on: October 24, 2015, 09:15:40 AM »
Yoshi Wooly World is the cutest game ever.  :uguu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27234 on: October 25, 2015, 08:38:51 AM »
Started the Vanishing of Ethan Carter, like the vibe, gameplay is meh

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27235 on: October 25, 2015, 08:46:37 AM »
Crisis Force, a Konami vertical shmup on the Famicom. Surprised it never got a US release, but the game is pretty good. Nice graphics, quality music, and lots of cool little background touches (lasers firing on a city, then the buildings crumble... volcanoes erupting, bulldozers clearing paths through the lava). A bit of slowdown here and there, but not as much flicker as you'd expect.

Also, Twinbee Yahoo on the Twinbee Deluxe Pack for PS1. Game is strongly based on Alice in Wonderland, with a really creepy boss fight against an Alice robot that rotates her head Exorcist style. It's a good game but a bit too frantic for the series, I think I like Pop N and Detana a bit more. Any other Twinbee fans here?
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27236 on: October 25, 2015, 12:59:50 PM »
What brought on this 16 bit binge tiesto?

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27237 on: October 25, 2015, 09:48:46 PM »
What brought on this 16 bit binge tiesto?

I've always been about the retro gaming...
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27238 on: October 26, 2015, 08:29:10 AM »
Finished the Vanishing of Ethan Carter

The game is very pretty, music is nice and the story is ok. Thats the good stuff.

Unfortunately the gameplay is very boring and messy, the game is an open world and you can complete it in any Order ivguess but this also means you could be stuck wandering aound doing fuck all.

Its not hard at all but some items you need might not be easy to see so its a bit dumb. It feels very budget to me.

Bit of wasted potential as with this setting and some tighter gameplay this could have been a great game.

5/10

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27239 on: October 26, 2015, 01:34:46 PM »
I didn't understand anything in the post above and I'm only four beers deep :doge

The modern MegaTen battle system is great by itself but it really doesn't work well with the traditional JRPG dungeon design of balancing tactical thinking in battle with strategic thinking outside of battle. The mental fatigue and "battle high" you carry as a dungeon progresses means that your ability to tolerate the crap that's bogged down the genre since it went 3D (e.g. loading, animations) diminishes considerably and instead of being a pleasant experience it becomes an exercise in endurance. A solution to rectify the situation was to make the dungeons more of a sprint race than a marathon with the the Dark Hour conceit but this ends up feeling like a band-aid instead of a solution.

Seems like an incorrect hypothesis.

SMT games are at their heart dungeon crawlers.

SMT3 has no safe places, because you are in hell on Earth. So the entire world is a giant dungeon.

Digital Devil Saga games are more proper dungeon crawlers.

Most jrpgs have a structure of town -> dungeon -> town -> dungeon. They use the dungeons for battling and challenge and towns for story exposition where you can take a break from battles. DDS doesn't have this structure. You're practically always fighting in a dungeon in that game. There are towns but they're usually one screen towns and mostly meant for unlocking crap and locations related to progress, and you're back to dungeoning and battling. FF13 is like this as well. There are no towns in that game, it's mostly just battling, and people get fatigue. Further, SMT3 has that town -> dungeon structure but the twist is that towns have battles too so there's no place to wind down. What you're experiencing is something common in complaints for people who do not like dungeon crawl battle heavy RPGs and prefer a more traditional structure that has starts and stops where story isn't seen as a reward for finishing a dungeon but merely a part of the game structure as much as battling and dungeoning.

That's where we get into Persona 3. Persona 2 games are both more in line with the traditional rpg than the MegaTen dungeon crawl aspect I mentioned above. That isn't a band-aid. It's just P3's way of being a traditional rpg and a subversion of town -> dungeon -> town -> dungeon. This is also generally why Persona is more popular. Because it's more traditional and kinda always has been, and easier to digest.

Personally, I love the aforementioned MegaTen structure. Constant battles mixed with light story exposition and telling story through themes, symbolism, and environment, and making it where it counts (your choices as a player) fuck yeah. And DDS has some of the best dungeons in an rpg ever. Compared to FFXIII and its static always hold up dungeons we are talking the difference between cream (SMT) and actual crop (FF13).

The fatigue you're talking about is more from the fact you probably aren't a fan of the structure. That's okay though. Not everyone is. It's quite true that SMT3 and DDS are games that battle endurance, but what you miss is that's the entire fucking point. Being stuck in a dungeon, overwhelmed, low on items, low on mp, and feeling overwhelmed by the pressure of continuing on is the entire appeal of that type of game. Not many people get that. It's a totally different rpg, for a totally different type of rpg player. You can throw Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter and Valkyrie Profile 2 in the same barrel. As it is, the hypothesis that SMT games need less battles is an incorrect one, because battles, endurance, and fatigue are the entire point of some of them. It's like saying Fallout games need less choice because you're overwhelmed by the amount of choices, when that's the entire point of Fallout.

Just a different type of rpg.

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