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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9660 on: February 10, 2011, 01:52:11 PM »
What kind of weapon? They are beastly with uzi's.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9661 on: February 10, 2011, 01:52:54 PM »
What kind of weapon? They are beastly with uzi's.

Oh, so are survivors still hax with guns? I was giving them melee stuffs.

Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9662 on: February 10, 2011, 01:54:17 PM »
There's an uzi in the fountain where you and Brad go at the beginning of the game to get to Carlos. There's also an uzi along the ceiling of a few stores in Paradise plaza.

Also: katanas.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9663 on: February 10, 2011, 01:55:05 PM »
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Raban

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9664 on: February 10, 2011, 01:55:25 PM »
kk thx for the tips. Will try again.

I really want to like Dead Rising because I absolutely loved Dead Rising 2, but the shit is tough.

Raban

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« Reply #9665 on: February 10, 2011, 01:57:44 PM »
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o @ that video

And I thought the hidden stuff in DR2 was cool, goddamn.

Himu

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« Reply #9666 on: February 10, 2011, 01:57:58 PM »
In DR1 you point to locations for survivors to run towards.

When I do this, they just run right into a big group of zombies and get stuck forever unless I come in and completely clear a 10'x10' area of zombies.

EDIT: So is it not recommended I try and take more than one or two survivors with me at a time in the early levels? Most of my complaints stem from how fucking awful my experience was with three survivors in tow.

If a survivor can't hack it in the first run, forget it. If you can't manage to hit a scoop, forget it. Don't even question it. On second run, you will be steam rolling shit and protecting survivors like a pro.

This sense of fulfillment is extremely lacking in DR2. DR1 is heavy about survival. DR2 is far user friendly. I can get across the map and do all the cases in just a few minutes. In DR1, I had to pick and choose what to do because there wasn't enough time.
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magus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9667 on: February 10, 2011, 03:32:23 PM »
okay i picked a soldier and trying to going renegade because being a jerk sounds more interessing.....

anything i should know like is there any skills i should give particular attention?

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« Reply #9668 on: February 10, 2011, 03:32:39 PM »
okay guys i've decided and i'm giving a spin to mass effect,watch me as i crap on the "GREATEST RPG EVAH!"


I think you meant to say KOTOR.
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9669 on: February 10, 2011, 03:44:57 PM »
Who the fuck says Mass Effect is the greatest rpg ever? No one with sense, that's who. It is maintained that Mass Effect is a great game with a lot of flaws. Seriously where did you ever hear that from?

The gameplay is just alright, but ME1 has a better story than any jrpg/wrpg this gen that's not Xenoblade.  So if you like stories like most weaboo gamers, then Mass Effect is pretty rad.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9670 on: February 10, 2011, 03:52:07 PM »
okay i picked a soldier and trying to going renegade because being a jerk sounds more interessing.....

anything i should know like is there any skills i should give particular attention?



ME1 was very unbalanced so youre gunna be screwed unless you went vanguard
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9671 on: February 10, 2011, 04:00:13 PM »
Who the fuck says Mass Effect is the greatest rpg ever? No one with sense, that's who. It is maintained that Mass Effect is a great game with a lot of flaws. Seriously where did you ever hear that from?

The gameplay is just alright, but ME1 has a better story than any jrpg/wrpg this gen that's not Xenoblade.  So if you like stories like most weaboo gamers, then Mass Effect is pretty rad.

I like Nier more than ME's and I have played Nier for 2 hours.
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iconoclast

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9672 on: February 10, 2011, 04:53:55 PM »
Nier's got the best story this gen

I'd take ME1 as #2 I guess. Or maybe the first Valkyria.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9673 on: February 10, 2011, 04:58:50 PM »
Did you ever finish Dante's Inferno? 

I was looking forward to seeing your "God of War clones :rock" comment morph into "God of War clones >:( :yuck ".
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« Reply #9674 on: February 10, 2011, 05:33:42 PM »
uguu getting graphics artifacts in gta4 pc, prob shouldnt turn it all the way up I guess then.  :-[
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9675 on: February 10, 2011, 05:42:16 PM »
I played the first two or three stages and hated it. I'll probably finish it by the weekend, I just haven't had much desire to play it.

I'm not a big God of War fan, but I usually find its clones to be decent (eg. Conan, Castlevania). Dante's Inferno has got to be the worst one I've played so far.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9676 on: February 10, 2011, 05:52:52 PM »
I played 30 minutes of Two Worlds II and then promptly deleted it.

Life is too short to spend time on jank euro rpgs I've determined.


Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9677 on: February 10, 2011, 06:55:11 PM »
Nier's got the best story this gen

I'd take ME1 as #2 I guess. Or maybe the first Valkyria.

ME? Best story? Jesus Christ.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #9678 on: February 10, 2011, 06:59:07 PM »
ME1's story is really good sci-fi tale.  Very awesome worldview, great plot, good twists and turns.

ME2's story is lololololololol 30 min filler ep where nothing happens.  But the gameplay is 1000x better so it's ok.


Hopefully ME3's plot is great like ME1 and not just OH NO LETS FIGHT THE BADDIES ON EARTH aka, FPS plotline.

Himu

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« Reply #9679 on: February 10, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »
ME has no plot. It essentially,"we must find the beacon" the entire story.

ME2 is even worse. It eseentially,"assemble an all star team to go on a suicide mission" and the suicide mission lasts all but 30 minutes.

I don't think either ME's stories are notable. Though they're fun.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9680 on: February 10, 2011, 07:07:15 PM »
fucking weeaboos.  "i can summarize the story like this so that means nothing happens!"  me stories are great because there're tons of interesting stories and you have control over the outcome of all of them. 
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Himu

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« Reply #9681 on: February 10, 2011, 07:20:09 PM »
I didn't summarize the story. I summarized the plot. Plot is merely an extension of the story, much like narrative. Usually it's the weaboos who can't distinguish either three.

Oops.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9682 on: February 10, 2011, 07:26:25 PM »
me2 was all about the characters, which the majority of both the game's story and its gameplay revolved around. sorry you missed that part, but i'd thought i'd point it out.

Himu

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« Reply #9683 on: February 10, 2011, 07:30:14 PM »
I didn't miss that part. And every character has daddy issues, too. I enjoyed both Mass Effect's heavily, but I'm not seeing how it's the best in anything, when story is involved.

In regards to storytelling, I haven't really been impressed with any game I've played this console generation except Portal and certain sections of Red Dead Redemption. No More Heroes social commentary was interesting, but uses it as an excuse to make the game worse. Mass Effect 1/2 has good characters and scenario pieces, but the story is ultimately shallow, same for Dragon Age. Bioshock is okay. Catherine looks fantastic in terms of story, though.

I'm not even seeing what the deal about Nier is yet. Though the premise is interesting, talking books and shit makes me think it feels like any standard game.

All I see are a bunch of Hollywood games with big budget Hollywood like themes.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9684 on: February 10, 2011, 07:39:01 PM »
Nier's got the best story this gen

I'd take ME1 as #2 I guess. Or maybe the first Valkyria.

ME? Best story? Jesus Christ.

Well, what else is there (from RPGs)? I can't even remember what happened in Vesperia with its Aer and Blastia and Entelexicaica or whatever the fuck. Resonance of Fate's story requires a wiki to make any sense. Lost Odyssey's is good if you include the dreams, but the main plot isn't that great. Blue Dragon is shonen anime. The Last Remnant is uninteresting aside from a few scenes.  FF13 is lol. Dragon Age is okay, but it's pretty contrived. Fallout 3 sucks for 20 hours. I kinda liked Operation Darkness' story, actually (werewolves vs. nazi vampires - how is it not awesome?). Devil Survivor was pretty good, and TWEWY might have a good story, but I didn't like the game enough to play it to the end.
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Himu

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« Reply #9685 on: February 10, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »
You're including portables? Portables have kicked console games in the teeth in terms of story this gen.

I've been playing Ghost Trick and it's pretty interesting, though I'm not done yet. Tactics Ogre already has a better story than all of the games this gen put together. Crush has a great story. Devil Survivor was definitely pretty good.

I just don't play or like games for story. I think games are awful at story telling, though there's exceptions. I think games are best at symbolism and theme, more so than plot and narrative because we're talking about 50 hour long narratives needlessly stretched out. And not many games take advantage of theme and symbolism, or if they do, they use overwrought themes or themes we've all seen before (the biggest of which being conflict, war, murder).

It's like anime for dudes who don't like anime.

I definitely find that the better game stories are found in lower budget titles such as Crush.
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9686 on: February 10, 2011, 08:00:48 PM »
Himuro, I think you're still in that rebellious phase or growing up where everything sucks and you are too good for it all.

Eventually you'll get old and appreciate game stories again.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9687 on: February 10, 2011, 08:05:10 PM »
Himuro, I think you're still in that rebellious phase or growing up where everything sucks and you are too good for it all.

This is him but then its also just about everybody who posts on a forum. We can all agree that video game stories are inferior to the stories in most good books or movies but then I always disagree with other people when it comes to what are the "good" stories in videogames.

Not to mention I always argue immersion is probably more important in videogames than pure story as if we are just reading a book or something. 

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« Reply #9688 on: February 10, 2011, 08:07:11 PM »
eeeeehhhh i'm kinda unimpressed so far,there has been lot of talk and it just was kinda boring besides does this game really count as an RPG? it pretty much plays like a cover based shooter,ok i do level up and get health upgrade and find new stronger weapons but heck at that point even devil may cry would qualify...

i guess that some of the music was nice? that's the best thing i can say about the game so far
wrex just joined my party in case you guys were wondering how far i played
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Robo

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« Reply #9689 on: February 10, 2011, 08:08:56 PM »
"Are you a bad enough dude to save the President?" is the pinnacle of the form, as far as I'm concerned.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9690 on: February 10, 2011, 08:10:00 PM »
Himuro, I think you're still in that rebellious phase or growing up where everything sucks and you are too good for it all.

Eventually you'll get old and appreciate game stories again.

Oh please. I think everything sucks? No, I clearly enjoy game stories. Why the fuck would I play Ghost Trick? The gameplay is the story. Stop putting game stories on such a pedestal.

Same goes for Stoney.

Sorry someone doesn't agree that game stories are oh so great. I think they're crap. This doesn't come from being rebellious, it comes from reading a bunch of books and watching a lot of movies.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9691 on: February 10, 2011, 08:10:35 PM »
I dropped my ds lite on the ground, now it won't turn on. FML.
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Stoney Mason

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9692 on: February 10, 2011, 08:11:58 PM »
Himuro, I think you're still in that rebellious phase or growing up where everything sucks and you are too good for it all.

Eventually you'll get old and appreciate game stories again.

Oh please. I think everything sucks? No, I clearly enjoy game stories. Why the fuck would I play Ghost Trick? The gameplay is the story. Stop putting game stories on such a pedestal.

Same goes for Stoney.

Sorry someone doesn't agree that game stories are oh so great. I think they're crap. This doesn't come from being rebellious, it comes from reading a bunch of books and watching a lot of movies.

Uh yeah. I'm the last person to put game stories on a pedastal.

But whatever. Let's just say that whatever you think is an awesome game story I could pick apart and tell you why its shit. And probably vice versa for that matter.

magus

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« Reply #9693 on: February 10, 2011, 08:12:46 PM »
I dropped my ds lite on the ground, now it won't turn on. FML.

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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9694 on: February 10, 2011, 08:13:05 PM »
Saying I'm rebellious for not thinking ME has a great story is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9695 on: February 10, 2011, 08:16:30 PM »
And every character has daddy issues, too.

Really? EVERY character?  :lol
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« Reply #9696 on: February 10, 2011, 08:18:37 PM »
Not to mention I always argue immersion is probably more important in videogames than pure story as if we are just reading a book or something. 

agreed but nerds would rather separate a game's story and compare that to a book/movie like they're equal, and games always fail of course.  like you, i enjoy game stories because when they're well-told they improve the immersion.  call of duty games dont compare to apocalypse now or something, but insterting a story with dialog and objectives helps to create immersion and makes for a fun yet different experience compared to an action game that would have all shooting and literally no story.  likewise, while me2 didnt change sci-fi forever it presents interesting stories and gives me control over how they play out, so that's why i say the game has an awesome story.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9697 on: February 10, 2011, 08:18:58 PM »
I dropped my ds lite on the ground, now it won't turn on. FML.

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Borrowed housemate's ds, so I'm good for now. He doesn't use it and the only game he has is pokemon. I'm trying to see what Nintendo charges to fix this shit.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9698 on: February 10, 2011, 08:19:15 PM »
Saying I'm rebellious for not thinking ME has a great story is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

thats not why he said youre rebellious
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magus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9699 on: February 10, 2011, 08:22:05 PM »
you know i keep hearing people saying that "GAMING STORY ARE CRAP!" but personaly i fail to see how they are worse than your average animu

like for example
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and TWEWY might have a good story
yea! pick TWEWY! it's practicaly the kiddie version of gantz and it works!
so yea if animu is good enough for you so are videogamez
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9700 on: February 10, 2011, 08:22:17 PM »
are you anything like Jacob in ME2 Himuro? Do you need us to trust you?
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iconoclast

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« Reply #9701 on: February 10, 2011, 08:22:40 PM »
Ketsui has a pretty cool story imo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketsui:_Kizuna_Jigoku_Tachi

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Himu

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« Reply #9702 on: February 10, 2011, 08:23:06 PM »
Immersion is what games really have going for them, personally, and it's why I couldn't get into FF13 or give a fuck what was happening. Towns and npc interaction help me give a fuck. I like getting lost in an imaginary world in games, however realistic or fantastical it may be. I'm not sure if that really can be attributed to being "story" proper, per se.
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Himu

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« Reply #9703 on: February 10, 2011, 08:23:35 PM »
Saying I'm rebellious for not thinking ME has a great story is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

thats not why he said youre rebellious

So I'm rebellious because I think game stories are crap? Game stories are worse than anime.

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Bebpo

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« Reply #9704 on: February 10, 2011, 08:31:26 PM »
I like games.  I like their stories, their gameplay, their worlds to explore, their graphics, their music, I like everything about them.  Sure there are annoying parts and dumb stories and bad mechanics in games but I like most games.

Ketsui has a pretty cool story imo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketsui:_Kizuna_Jigoku_Tachi

 :D

I liked the story in Death Smiles a lot :P

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9705 on: February 10, 2011, 08:33:39 PM »
"Immersion" is lots of things and varies from person to person. Immersion can be provided by graphics. It can be provided by art style. I can be provided by being similar to the tone of a movie or Tv show, or other entertainment that a person might enjoy from another medium. It can be a cool character development moment. It can be a cool story moment. It can be the actual plot or the world the game creates, etc ,etc. That's why arguing what has the best "plot" in a game is boring and never interests me. A game can have a great plot and be incredibly immersive. A game can have an incredibly average plot and still be very immersive. A game can have an interesting plot and still suck as a game.

One of the most boring and lazy arguments is to bang on games for having "poor" stories especially in an interactive medium. It's the ultimate captain obvious comment.

 That criticism is worthwhile maybe for a book. Or for some movies. But its rarely worth engaging in over a videogame. (Maybe its worthwhile in discussing something like Heavy Rain where the entire game is strictly about doing a story) Especially since what is immersive for me may not be immersive for somebody else.
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The Sceneman

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« Reply #9706 on: February 10, 2011, 08:39:43 PM »
because at the end of the day, gameplay is king. Poor gameplay can be aided by a good plot, music.. etc., but yeah if the game is the funnest fucking thing ever, who cares if the story is banal?
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Himu

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« Reply #9707 on: February 10, 2011, 08:42:52 PM »
Immersion can be a lot of things, but for the most part, to me it's not the foundation of story in a game, but one piece of the whole. To me, good game stories can exist and I like it when a game has a good story, under what I consider to be a good story. But those are few and far between so I try not to think about it. If a game has a good story, it's usually seen a bonus to me. Though, certain genres benefit from good storytelling, namely rpgs and adventure games.

Plot however, is subjective, like anything else. I'm just not satisfied by most game stories. Though I tend to get involved in them. I like playing a role or a character, I just don't think that means it necessarily has a good story.
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« Reply #9708 on: February 10, 2011, 08:44:26 PM »
I want to be a pop-star
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Himu

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« Reply #9709 on: February 10, 2011, 08:45:04 PM »
because at the end of the day, gameplay is king. Poor gameplay can be aided by a good plot, music.. etc., but yeah if the game is the funnest fucking thing ever, who cares if the story is banal?

I think there are exceptions for me, personally. I really like both Shenmue games, for instance, not because of the gameplay (though I like the slow gameplay flow it has) but due to the immersion it delivers from the realistic take on the locations the games take place in. I find it a relaxing experience that no other medium could probably offer. Doesn't mean I think it has a good story though.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9710 on: February 10, 2011, 09:37:32 PM »
Immersion is what games really have going for them, personally, and it's why I couldn't get into FF13 or give a fuck what was happening. Towns and npc interaction help me give a fuck. I like getting lost in an imaginary world in games, however realistic or fantastical it may be. I'm not sure if that really can be attributed to being "story" proper, per se.

You say this, and that ME1 doesn't have a good story, and say that Portal has a good story? OK

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9711 on: February 10, 2011, 09:39:35 PM »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9712 on: February 10, 2011, 10:06:14 PM »
You're including portables? Portables have kicked console games in the teeth in terms of story this gen.

I've been playing Ghost Trick and it's pretty interesting, though I'm not done yet. Tactics Ogre already has a better story than all of the games this gen put together. Crush has a great story. Devil Survivor was definitely pretty good.

I just don't play or like games for story. I think games are awful at story telling, though there's exceptions. I think games are best at symbolism and theme, more so than plot and narrative because we're talking about 50 hour long narratives needlessly stretched out. And not many games take advantage of theme and symbolism, or if they do, they use overwrought themes or themes we've all seen before (the biggest of which being conflict, war, murder).

It's like anime for dudes who don't like anime.

I definitely find that the better game stories are found in lower budget titles such as Crush.

TLDR but using Tactics Ogre to supplement your argument is really weak.  Even a non-weeaboo like me knows that's not a new game. 

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« Reply #9713 on: February 10, 2011, 10:07:05 PM »
Not that I don't value stories in games at all, but at the end of the day, Vanquish has a distinguished mentally-challenged story but the game is as awesome as a skateboarding shark grinding a robot T-Rex's tail.  On fire.

For a Gears clone, anyway.
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« Reply #9714 on: February 10, 2011, 10:25:33 PM »
Immersion is what games really have going for them, personally, and it's why I couldn't get into FF13 or give a fuck what was happening. Towns and npc interaction help me give a fuck. I like getting lost in an imaginary world in games, however realistic or fantastical it may be. I'm not sure if that really can be attributed to being "story" proper, per se.

You say this, and that ME1 doesn't have a good story, and say that Portal has a good story? OK

People love to fellate valve because they think they are making "art" instead of just being satisfied with them making good games I've noticed.


There are people who will tell you how epic Left 4 Dead is on the story front. I always look at these people rather strangely. It's a good game. But writing bloody text on a wall doesn't make them Shakespeare.   

Note this isn't a diss at Valve whom I like. Just some of their fans.
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« Reply #9715 on: February 10, 2011, 10:45:27 PM »
Valve fans are the worst, I was just talking to my classmates about how much they piss me off  :lol

They are the worst culprits in the whole games are art/opera/shakespeare shit
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9716 on: February 10, 2011, 10:47:10 PM »
Valve fans are the worst, I was just talking to my classmates about how much they piss me off  :lol

They are the worst culprits in the whole games are art/opera/shakespeare shit

Not worse than thatgamecompany and Team Ico loving sfags. 
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Himu

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« Reply #9717 on: February 10, 2011, 11:03:19 PM »
Immersion is what games really have going for them, personally, and it's why I couldn't get into FF13 or give a fuck what was happening. Towns and npc interaction help me give a fuck. I like getting lost in an imaginary world in games, however realistic or fantastical it may be. I'm not sure if that really can be attributed to being "story" proper, per se.

You say this, and that ME1 doesn't have a good story, and say that Portal has a good story? OK

I like the way Portal's story was told, not the story itself, per se. I thought the way it manipulated the player's emotions, or at least mine, was pretty good. It set itself up nicely. You start alone in an isolated facility, you have no clue what happened to the others but there are hints. You go through trials and level by level as GlaDOS guides you from stage to stage, and abruptly tries to kill you out of nowhere. You realize that you're not the first person she has done this too. I didn't really expect it, and going up until the final levels of the game, it's pretty fucking awesome with a great final confrontation as you finally leave the building.

In regards to stories, I prefer vagueness than hitting you over the head like with every other game. I like how Portal leaves a lot of the story up to the player and doesn't wrap itself up in melodrama or explaining shit. I prefer the thought of "show me/let me experience it" than "tell me", which a lot of you seem to prefer for some reason. In any case, I like how in Portal, information is not always handed out. A lot of the story is told through visuals and straight up audio or in game clues that the player finds out on their own. Like the gender of the main character, or the hidden rooms with writing scrawled on the wall.

ME1 have a good story? Its story is certainly serviceable and enjoyable. But because something is enjoyable doesn't make it necessarily good either. It's story is fine on many fronts: it has a wealth of culture, it has a interesting world view, really well written character, but it's pretty standard fantasy -- human masturbation, sacred and mysterious macguffins, stock sci-fi -- and for me, at most, Mass Effect is entertaining. I wouldn't classify it as "great" in any respect in this area because even the characters tend to be underdeveloped -- and this is an area where Mass Effect 2 trumps the original, in terms of storytelling.

And this is the problem with nerds. They have no capacity to distinguish "good/great/fantastic" from "enjoyable". Because Terminator 2 has an enjoyable story does not mean it has a GREAT story, either. But this is gamers we're talking about. Because a story is enjoyable, does not mean it's great. There are so many components to stories: characters, plot, narrative, pacing, that when one critiques a story does not mean they dislike every single element.

Also, the labeling of people who like something as such and such as opposed to listening to why they like it just makes you look like a tool, especially if we're the same people who hate on being "rebellious".
« Last Edit: February 10, 2011, 11:05:53 PM by Stringer Bell »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9718 on: February 10, 2011, 11:08:39 PM »
Valve fans are the worst, I was just talking to my classmates about how much they piss me off  :lol

They are the worst culprits in the whole games are art/opera/shakespeare shit

Nintendo/Sony fantards got this.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #9719 on: February 10, 2011, 11:09:32 PM »
Valve fans are the worst, I was just talking to my classmates about how much they piss me off  :lol

They are the worst culprits in the whole games are art/opera/shakespeare shit

Not worse than thatgamecompany and Team Ico loving sfags. 

they should do a reality show where they make ten Valve fans and ten Team Ico fans live inside a self contained biosphere and see who cracks
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