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Positive Touch

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21360 on: September 23, 2013, 06:55:06 PM »
i dont know why i bought that stupid game :(
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The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21361 on: September 23, 2013, 08:17:26 PM »
SMH
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Positive Touch

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21362 on: September 23, 2013, 08:19:45 PM »
i love the shit out of castlevania but that game was on the level of a half-assed incomplete fan-made pos. AND THE DLC FUCKING CHRIST.  just stupid idea for a game.
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Positive Touch

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21363 on: September 23, 2013, 08:27:51 PM »
seriously the fighting game was a better idea

they coulda put out a battle arena game and it wouldnt have been as shitty ffs
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The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21364 on: September 23, 2013, 08:36:11 PM »
Ah maybe you had to be there. When the DLC was dropping weekly, with a new boss to grind for new loot every week, it was totally: :rejoice
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Trent Dole

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21365 on: September 23, 2013, 10:33:57 PM »
360 version had an active community like a year and a half later, ha. I'm kind of surprised to hear that it was considered not good enough since they made two additional DLC stages due to interest in it.
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The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21366 on: September 24, 2013, 07:06:16 AM »
Outland music :rejoice

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chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21367 on: September 24, 2013, 06:29:37 PM »
Going back to original Crackdown to get the Street Race Achievements. I can win many of the races legitimately, but when I can't, it turns out the AI don't be drivin' so good when they got no tires.

Edit: turns out if you go get an Agency Supercar, drag it to the start line, get out, restart the race, and the Supercar is still waiting for you. Turns out the AI can't drive so well when they're being shot, flipped into the air, and killed.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2013, 08:27:28 AM by chronovore »

Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21368 on: September 24, 2013, 11:54:03 PM »
I don't like Outland but I wont try to hold it against those who do.
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Beezy

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21369 on: September 25, 2013, 09:33:04 AM »
Outland was alright. Also a bit more interesting on co-op.

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21370 on: September 25, 2013, 10:30:44 PM »
Asura's Wraith... just finished chapter 7 and fuck man, this game is awesome!

For some reason, I thought the game was all QTEs but I really like the 3d brawler type gameplay. It's responsive and the bosses have some fun patterns to figure out, and you don't have to worry about shitty rapid camera changes like in other 3d brawler games. The QTEs are usually pretty logical and correspond well to your 'regular' actions. It's not just a bunch of crazy button presses just because... if Asura is required to jump in a QTE, you have to press the jump button. If he is using a power move, you press the power attack button.

Presentation is fantastic. The music is excellent, I like how everything is presented in anime-style episodic fashion (with the 'commercial breaks' and 'next episode previews'), and naturally I dig the Hindu-inspired storyline.

My brother loaned me the game back in the beginning of the year... I only wish I got around to it sooner! Now I have to pick up my own copy :P
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21371 on: September 25, 2013, 10:37:04 PM »
As with every mention of Asura's Wrath - buy the Ending DLC
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21372 on: September 26, 2013, 04:56:52 AM »
Man, I gotta play Asura's Wrath & Enslaved one of these days and get some badass 6 hour QTE-fest in my system.


clearing up Papers, Please now.  On day 28.  Should be able to finish it next time I play.  I really like the game in a lot of ways, but there's also a lot of boring dead time which makes it way too fucking long for what it's trying to do.  Instead of 4-5 hours and highly repayable, it should have been 2 hours long and highly repayable.  Oh well, at least it's almost done and then I can check out all the alternate endings.

The Sceneman

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« Reply #21373 on: September 26, 2013, 07:16:32 AM »
Enslaved isn't a QTE fest? I remember a really cool action adventure game with brawler style combat, and an amazing DLC package that totally flipped the script and delivered an entirely new 6 hour stealth/shooter experience. (1250/1250 club here)

Asuras Wrath is on my "to play" list
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archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21374 on: September 26, 2013, 08:28:21 AM »
There is a very useful shortcut in 5-2 between the boss area and the starting point. Try to find that first.

chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21375 on: September 26, 2013, 11:42:26 AM »
It appears I have a surefire technique for losing 75% of my cache of Chips in World Series of Poker: Full House Pro.

If any of you distinguished card-shuffling gentlemen have too many Chips, and need any tips on how to distribute them to players across the felt from you, just PM me and I'll set you straight.

Also played three hours or so of Ascend: Hand of Kul, and posted some impressions in a new thread.

chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21376 on: September 27, 2013, 03:56:27 AM »
Going back to original Crackdown to get the Street Race Achievements. I can win many of the races legitimately, but when I can't, it turns out the AI don't be drivin' so good when they got no tires.

Edit: turns out if you go get an Agency Supercar, drag it to the start line, get out, restart the race, and the Supercar is still waiting for you. Turns out the AI can't drive so well when they're being shot, flipped into the air, and killed.

Update: Got Street Racer, Street Racer Elite, and Repo Man 'cheevos.

I'm now only missing the three collectible-related Achievements: Agility Orbs (497/500), Hidden Orbs (271/300), and Car Jumps (27/39). I actually found one more Agility Orb during my last session, but finding the remaining 3 at this point is a needle-in-a-haystack proposition. I could probably find 1 or 2 of the 3 but, like Masyaf's last Flag, there's every likelihood I'd just end up hating the game and myself for playing it if I tried to find all three.

I think I'm perma-done with the game. I loved it in 2007, and find it holds up pretty well even now. The co-op implementation was so well implemented and smooth that it took years of other games' half-assed solutions in comparison to realize how well it works. RIP Realtime Worlds.

fistfulofmetal

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21377 on: September 27, 2013, 12:55:02 PM »
Fuckin' Rayman Legends is really awesome. And it has a bunch if not all of the levels from Rayman Origins too!
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21378 on: September 27, 2013, 04:06:12 PM »
I posted this on gaf because I don't think anyone here even cares about AC3 anymore, but I'll put it here as well.  Played like 3 hours last night, game was still shit.  Will speedrun the rest of the main story and then I'm done with AC.

Assassin's Creed 3
Being a big fan of the Assassin's Creed series, and having played all the games in it, even to 100% completion or near it, like many others I was really hyped for AC3 being the big "7 years in development", all new engine, final epic end to the trilogy.

Then it came out, was kind of broken, boring and unfun and so I dropped it halfway.


Months go by and I'm trying to clear my active backlog (aka, games I was pretty far into so I might as well finish them) and I go back and play like 3 hours just speed running the main story last night. Did Sequence 7-9.

And while I've read numerous discussions about how bad AC3 is and seen first hand what an unfun experience it is. Doing so many main missions in a row (before I'd do a mission or two and then all the new side missions that open, repeat. 20 hours in and I was still barely anywhere in the plotline), last night gave a really clear view on the #1 problem with AC3's game design (and why I'm worried about AC4 and Watchdogs and any future Ubisoft game design): Constant barrage of negative player feedback.

Almost every single main mission has a bunch of "optional" objectives. These are listed constantly in your screen corner as your play the game. Now most of the time the game gives you little idea of how to these objectives (sometimes even the main objective is vague), no easy way to retry them when you fail them, and combined with glitchy controls that fight against you, broken stealth and random AI, on your first play through a mission you're constantly missing the optional objectives. For which the game then keeps FLASHING IN BAD EVIL RED Xs that "look, you screwed up! Look you, screwed up again!" all throughout the mission overlaying your screen while you're trying to enjoy the game.

As if being spotted and having that "you've been spotted noise/flash" and going "damn, I was trying to play this stealthy" and then you end up standing in a circle crowd doing counters for 2 mins until everyone's dead and you are drawn out of the stealth experience completely isn't bad enough, you're constantly getting these red messages telling you how much you suck and are failing.

It'd also be one thing if it was just the game being challenging or having some glitchy controls (brotherhood sorta fit in there with some of the optional stuff), at least that's less frustrating. But AC3 has the worst player messaging I've ever seen in a game. It drops you in missions half the time and tells you to do something but gives you no idea on how you are supposed to do it. But this isn't a "good! games need less hand-holding!" thing like Zelda 1 where you should explore and figure it out yourself.

The problem is that AC3 is an extremely linear scripted corridor experience but it doesn't tell you the rules or the corridor boundaries half the time. So you have to use trial & error blindly with the odds against you to fail your main mission objective or the optional objectives.

Yes, on a 2nd playthrough of the game. Or maybe if you're using a guide and you know exactly what the fail/success triggers are, it could be an enjoyable experience. But the first time through the story is just blindly failing over and over against with the game constantly giving the player negative feedback that they suck, are doing the missions wrong and are missing completion percentages.

My theory on how AC3 was designed was that this was done on purpose to make players replay a vast majority of the game missions more than once to add "replay value" and "LOOK HOW MANY HOURS OF CONTENT IS IN OUR GAME", at the expense of making the first run (and for most people, the only run) through the game an extremely negative experience.

Also it'd be good at this point to differentiate between negative player feedback and just difficult "you die" games. Games that are jerk-ish and constantly kill you like Super Meat Boy or Hotline Miami are different from AC3 because yes, you mess up a lot and those games tell you "YOU'RE DEAD" (or just flash for a second), but then they throw you back in the game almost instantly giving you another try, and then another, and you get to use these endless opportunities to learn the levels, improve your skills and get through it and then bam, satisfaction for accomplishing that. AC3 on the other hand, just keeps flashing your screen "YOU SUCK" and letting you keep going (unless you want to restart the entire mission 10 checkpoints back again while you sit through unskippable scripted events or speeches one after another) and then at the end marks you down for what a shitty player you are. Difficulty -> Accomplishment vs. Just telling you how bad you are and letting you progress feeling like you're screwing everything up. Fun vs. not fun. AC3 is, not fun.

And yeah, I make no claims that I'm the greatest gamer, nor do I believe I'm the worst. But AC3's mission design and player messaging seem like the first time through, without any guides, the only people who would truly understand what they are supposed to be doing to "play the game correctly" and hit all the objectives, are going to be the developers themselves and the people demo-ing their games at events and for youtube videos. A good example last night was after a cutscene the game throws you into a battle and says "OPTIONAL OBJECTIVE: ESCAPE BY SWAN DIVE", well, since I'm on land and not say the rooftops (oh and don't even get me started how the AC series has continually punished the players for being on rooftops as the games go on with guards setting alerts when you do, yet the games were originally meant to be rooftop runners wtf), I'm like "ok, where can I dive from?" because looking around there aren't any ledges with birds or anything that signals a swan dive area. But I am on a cliff with a lake below so I figure I can just swan dive off it. Nope, turns out there's a beach before the water so I break my neck and die and restart at the fight. Next time I try getting some high ground, climb some trees to find a swan dive spot, then the game says "YOU HAVE ESCAPED; MISSION OVER; ESCAPE BY SWAN DIVE [X] FAILED" and now my only choice is to replay a 15 minute mission full of cutscenes and events just to try to get back to that swan dive objective and have another try to figure out what the hell I'm supposed to be doing to find a swan dive spot somewhere.

Looking back and thinking about it, if the game just gave you an option to "never see the optional objectives" and just gave you a sandbox area, a main mission "follow this guy!" or "assassinate this guy!" and let you be free to do it on your own, however you like and not have flashing red signs that you're failing stuff along the way...it'd be a much better game imo (basically it'd be like AC2; the best game in the series). The constant negative feedback imposed by the game just makes the player feel frustrated and unhappy and thus not having fun and AC3 ends up being a chore and a not fun game.

In my ideal world I'd like to hope game designers would avoid making these mistakes in the future to design a game around negative player feedback, because at the end of the day, it just makes for a game no one enjoys playing.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21379 on: September 27, 2013, 04:31:14 PM »
AssCreed 3 has the worst stealth in any game since that one part in Ocarina of Time. So bad.
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21380 on: September 27, 2013, 04:31:56 PM »
Bebpo, just watch the ending on youtube. AC3 does not get better at all. Even speedrun will be a chore. Stop. Stop!
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21381 on: September 27, 2013, 05:56:19 PM »
Bebpo, just watch the ending on youtube. AC3 does not get better at all. Even speedrun will be a chore. Stop. Stop!

This is so tempting.  But the completionist in me is saying "only 4 sequences left!  Just speedrun those and then do the optional naval missions and then you'll have got most of the AC3 experience and can call it a day"


Btw, I bought the DLC expansion at one of the steam sales for a couple of bucks.  Is it just as terrible and chore-like to play?  I remember when the first chapter came out people said it was way better than the main game (which is why I picked it up for later playing).

The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21382 on: September 27, 2013, 06:23:30 PM »
I posted this on gaf because I don't think anyone here even cares about AC3 anymore, but I'll put it here as well.  Played like 3 hours last night, game was still shit.  Will speedrun the rest of the main story and then I'm done with AC.

Assassin's Creed 3
Being a big fan of the Assassin's Creed series, and having played all the games in it, even to 100% completion or near it, like many others I was really hyped for AC3 being the big "7 years in development", all new engine, final epic end to the trilogy.

Then it came out, was kind of broken, boring and unfun and so I dropped it halfway.


Months go by and I'm trying to clear my active backlog (aka, games I was pretty far into so I might as well finish them) and I go back and play like 3 hours just speed running the main story last night. Did Sequence 7-9.

And while I've read numerous discussions about how bad AC3 is and seen first hand what an unfun experience it is. Doing so many main missions in a row (before I'd do a mission or two and then all the new side missions that open, repeat. 20 hours in and I was still barely anywhere in the plotline), last night gave a really clear view on the #1 problem with AC3's game design (and why I'm worried about AC4 and Watchdogs and any future Ubisoft game design): Constant barrage of negative player feedback.

Almost every single main mission has a bunch of "optional" objectives. These are listed constantly in your screen corner as your play the game. Now most of the time the game gives you little idea of how to these objectives (sometimes even the main objective is vague), no easy way to retry them when you fail them, and combined with glitchy controls that fight against you, broken stealth and random AI, on your first play through a mission you're constantly missing the optional objectives. For which the game then keeps FLASHING IN BAD EVIL RED Xs that "look, you screwed up! Look you, screwed up again!" all throughout the mission overlaying your screen while you're trying to enjoy the game.

As if being spotted and having that "you've been spotted noise/flash" and going "damn, I was trying to play this stealthy" and then you end up standing in a circle crowd doing counters for 2 mins until everyone's dead and you are drawn out of the stealth experience completely isn't bad enough, you're constantly getting these red messages telling you how much you suck and are failing.

It'd also be one thing if it was just the game being challenging or having some glitchy controls (brotherhood sorta fit in there with some of the optional stuff), at least that's less frustrating. But AC3 has the worst player messaging I've ever seen in a game. It drops you in missions half the time and tells you to do something but gives you no idea on how you are supposed to do it. But this isn't a "good! games need less hand-holding!" thing like Zelda 1 where you should explore and figure it out yourself.

The problem is that AC3 is an extremely linear scripted corridor experience but it doesn't tell you the rules or the corridor boundaries half the time. So you have to use trial & error blindly with the odds against you to fail your main mission objective or the optional objectives.

Yes, on a 2nd playthrough of the game. Or maybe if you're using a guide and you know exactly what the fail/success triggers are, it could be an enjoyable experience. But the first time through the story is just blindly failing over and over against with the game constantly giving the player negative feedback that they suck, are doing the missions wrong and are missing completion percentages.

My theory on how AC3 was designed was that this was done on purpose to make players replay a vast majority of the game missions more than once to add "replay value" and "LOOK HOW MANY HOURS OF CONTENT IS IN OUR GAME", at the expense of making the first run (and for most people, the only run) through the game an extremely negative experience.

Also it'd be good at this point to differentiate between negative player feedback and just difficult "you die" games. Games that are jerk-ish and constantly kill you like Super Meat Boy or Hotline Miami are different from AC3 because yes, you mess up a lot and those games tell you "YOU'RE DEAD" (or just flash for a second), but then they throw you back in the game almost instantly giving you another try, and then another, and you get to use these endless opportunities to learn the levels, improve your skills and get through it and then bam, satisfaction for accomplishing that. AC3 on the other hand, just keeps flashing your screen "YOU SUCK" and letting you keep going (unless you want to restart the entire mission 10 checkpoints back again while you sit through unskippable scripted events or speeches one after another) and then at the end marks you down for what a shitty player you are. Difficulty -> Accomplishment vs. Just telling you how bad you are and letting you progress feeling like you're screwing everything up. Fun vs. not fun. AC3 is, not fun.

And yeah, I make no claims that I'm the greatest gamer, nor do I believe I'm the worst. But AC3's mission design and player messaging seem like the first time through, without any guides, the only people who would truly understand what they are supposed to be doing to "play the game correctly" and hit all the objectives, are going to be the developers themselves and the people demo-ing their games at events and for youtube videos. A good example last night was after a cutscene the game throws you into a battle and says "OPTIONAL OBJECTIVE: ESCAPE BY SWAN DIVE", well, since I'm on land and not say the rooftops (oh and don't even get me started how the AC series has continually punished the players for being on rooftops as the games go on with guards setting alerts when you do, yet the games were originally meant to be rooftop runners wtf), I'm like "ok, where can I dive from?" because looking around there aren't any ledges with birds or anything that signals a swan dive area. But I am on a cliff with a lake below so I figure I can just swan dive off it. Nope, turns out there's a beach before the water so I break my neck and die and restart at the fight. Next time I try getting some high ground, climb some trees to find a swan dive spot, then the game says "YOU HAVE ESCAPED; MISSION OVER; ESCAPE BY SWAN DIVE [X] FAILED" and now my only choice is to replay a 15 minute mission full of cutscenes and events just to try to get back to that swan dive objective and have another try to figure out what the hell I'm supposed to be doing to find a swan dive spot somewhere.

Looking back and thinking about it, if the game just gave you an option to "never see the optional objectives" and just gave you a sandbox area, a main mission "follow this guy!" or "assassinate this guy!" and let you be free to do it on your own, however you like and not have flashing red signs that you're failing stuff along the way...it'd be a much better game imo (basically it'd be like AC2; the best game in the series). The constant negative feedback imposed by the game just makes the player feel frustrated and unhappy and thus not having fun and AC3 ends up being a chore and a not fun game.

In my ideal world I'd like to hope game designers would avoid making these mistakes in the future to design a game around negative player feedback, because at the end of the day, it just makes for a game no one enjoys playing.



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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21383 on: September 27, 2013, 10:39:29 PM »
Finished Infamous: Festival of Blood instead of playing any more AC3 tonight.


While the game was a little rough and janky in the combat compared to the normal Infamous 2 (mainly cause the teleporting gunner girls are annoying and combat can be too chaotic), the new flying powers and and eating people is fun, the halloween version of the city is neat, the missions are alright, the hidden glyphs are cool and the collectibles are easy enough to acquire.  Would've liked some more "unique" abilities for vampire Cole vs normal Cole, but for a 4-6 hour expansion pack it's a good solid 8/10.  Looking forward to Second Son a lot in Feb.  First real "next gen" game that's my kind of gaming.

archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21384 on: September 29, 2013, 08:10:23 AM »
It's the same with 2-3, 3-3, and 1-4. Make sure you play 1-4 after you're done with everything else.

archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21385 on: September 29, 2013, 08:25:14 AM »
Yeah, Dark Souls feels a bit longer. How many hours have you put into Demon's Souls so far?

archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21386 on: September 29, 2013, 08:59:43 AM »
"short game" indeed.

fistfulofmetal

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21387 on: September 29, 2013, 09:12:54 AM »
Since Dark Souls allows you to explore and go where you want, it could likely take you longer to finish. You'll spend a lot of time trying to figure out where to go and what to do.
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archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21388 on: September 30, 2013, 07:25:29 AM »
It's one of the more challenging boss battles although not as tough as 2-2, IMO. I still have no idea how to beat that boss without exploiting the level layout.

brob

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21389 on: September 30, 2013, 08:34:06 AM »
they both land every once in a while and often not at the same time. You can have a fair n fun fight at the bridge part where you have enough room to roll to the sides on reaction to attacks. It's pretty fun, but can be annoying if they fly away for long periods of time and you have to sit and wait like a chump.

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21390 on: September 30, 2013, 06:20:17 PM »
About to move on to the Asura's Wraith DLC. Such an awesome game, though there's a few camera problems (especially if you use a lot of lock-on). Sceneman this game is soooo up your alley I think...
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benjipwns

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21391 on: September 30, 2013, 10:06:31 PM »
Prop Hunt in Garry's Mod  :drool

I liked the whole OCD aspect of finding the "wrong" props but once I realized the entire point when playing as Props is to be a dickbag in plain sight instead of trying to legitimately hide is when I played like 12 hours of it this weekend, hooray for developing a horrible sleeping schedule.

Fuck servers that have only a ten second setup time and no normal height jump for the props though. How else am I supposed to put a file cabinet on an exit sign for the entire round in order to obtain praise from strangers on the internet since that's my only way to obtain any self-esteem in life.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 10:08:30 PM by benjipwns »

brawndolicious

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« Reply #21392 on: September 30, 2013, 10:46:34 PM »
Just started Hitman: Absolution and it feels like a Splinter Cell game, which is a good thing. Did they remove the ability to select your equipment that you start a mission with?

Bebpo, just watch the ending on youtube. AC3 does not get better at all. Even speedrun will be a chore. Stop. Stop!

This is so tempting.  But the completionist in me is saying "only 4 sequences left!  Just speedrun those and then do the optional naval missions and then you'll have got most of the AC3 experience and can call it a day"


Btw, I bought the DLC expansion at one of the steam sales for a couple of bucks.  Is it just as terrible and chore-like to play?  I remember when the first chapter came out people said it was way better than the main game (which is why I picked it up for later playing).

It's worth finishing those last few missions. The only really stupidly difficult optional objectives have to do with staying hidden ( which is most of the optional objectives), especially on that ship that was bombing Bunker Hill and you had to do special takedowns too. I'm pretty sure the rest of the game had very little stealth. I managed to do all the optional objectives on the first playthrough but I had to find guides on the dumb ones.

magus

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21393 on: October 01, 2013, 02:24:10 PM »
Disgaea D2

meh,i was so excited when they announced this but now that i played (and actualy even finished it,main story is not that long and you can power truck it without batting an eye as usual) i'm not even sure why... here's the thing,it's disgaea,you've already played it,there is nothing that this disgaea does that other disgaea game don't,even a good chunk of the music is ripped straight off from the original disgaea! actualy there isn't even any new feature,there is no magichange or classes or presidential map or multiplayer feature... the only thing introduced is the possibility of mounting monster (which in the end is really just sort of like magichange) and a cheat shop that let you change value around (gain more XP but less money for example)

really the best thing is that there are a lot of improvements in the UI,for example when you pick a map you get a nice preview of the map layout before entering it,if a unit has a bonus or malus applied,you can press square and discover what's actualy affecting it and how big that bonus is... another nice touch is that now each class has 3 different passive abilities so for example you can have mage that have more expensive but more powerfull spell or you can give them the ability to use HP instead of MP... they also made power-leveling easy again by giving easy access to statiscian and also handling you other various bonus (there is a class that makes it so that you gain 10% more exp everytime you field it for example)

the worst part of the game is the plot,it's the most token plot ever,something bad happen,they wander around a bit,then they punch someone in the face to make that bad thing stop,all of the funny jokes and situation are gone,the only new character introduced are sicily who's laharl sister and serve no other purpouse to the plot other than acting like the woobie and saying "big brother" a lot,then you have the guy that serves as the final boss and a trio of incompetent smaller villain who just take on-screen time without ever doing anything interessing... the only remotely funny bits are somewhat at the start when the prinnies decide to build a laharl statue that looks super ugly and another one when laharl gets turned into a busty woman

tl;dr no real reason to bother
« Last Edit: October 01, 2013, 02:29:34 PM by magus »
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21394 on: October 01, 2013, 08:43:04 PM »
just finished InFamous 2.  Got to be a hell of a slog at the end.  Overall fairly enjoyable though.  SR4 is a far better superhero game though.  This is just a shooter with a novel gun skin for the most part.
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archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21395 on: October 02, 2013, 12:34:59 PM »
I suggest you beat the remaining bosses in that order. (Minor spoiler about a boss you already defeated.)
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If you're online then The Old Monk will often be controlled by another human player.
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21396 on: October 02, 2013, 12:36:31 PM »
I suggest you stop being a pussy and beat the game already.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21397 on: October 02, 2013, 12:57:37 PM »
I tried out Mario and Luigi 3ds demo. I will pass. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, it was more just a fairly middling effort that follows the same traditional jrpg formula. No surprises here. I also found myself utterly bored with battle after battle. I never used to find jrpgs so repetitive, but now I almost always do, a few franchises withstanding. It goes to show that preferences have ebbs and peaks. I can no longer bother to make myself sit through the average jrpg anymore. I think time is more valuable doing something more enjoyable. Thankfully DQXI or SMT5 or Persona 5 are a few years off so I won't have to play another jrpg for a while that isn't Monster Hunter.
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21398 on: October 02, 2013, 01:17:13 PM »
I tried out Mario and Luigi 3ds demo. I will pass. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, it was more just a fairly middling effort that follows the same traditional jrpg formula. No surprises here. I also found myself utterly bored with battle after battle. I never used to find jrpgs so repetitive, but now I almost always do, a few franchises withstanding. It goes to show that preferences have ebbs and peaks. I can no longer bother to make myself sit through the average jrpg anymore. I think time is more valuable doing something more enjoyable. Thankfully DQXI or SMT5 or Persona 5 are a few years off so I won't have to play another jrpg for a while that isn't Monster Hunter.

:badass
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21399 on: October 02, 2013, 01:19:03 PM »
Not so much a badass, but someone who is trying to save money on trivial things that aren't needed to appeal to my inner sense of nostalgia of what used to be. It is easier to accept it for what it is and not fight it, though the post came off as more abrasive than I was hoping and I apologize for that. :)
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The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21400 on: October 02, 2013, 04:52:48 PM »
holier than thou ex-gamers are even worse than holier than thou ex-smokers!
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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21401 on: October 02, 2013, 05:02:26 PM »
War of the Vikings alpha is pretty dope. You can tell they took a lot of notes from the way Chivalry plays.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21402 on: October 02, 2013, 05:18:02 PM »
holier than thou ex-gamers are even worse than holier than thou ex-smokers!

Said nothing about being an ex gamer. Playing on my 3ds now. :)
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21403 on: October 02, 2013, 05:35:17 PM »
Well I just got Etrian Odyssey Untold in the mail today and I think its AWESOME. So eat a dick, Himurella.
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archnemesis

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21404 on: October 02, 2013, 05:38:14 PM »
Did you play the original Etrian Odyssey? If so, how different is it? I already own four games in the series and I didn't get that far into the last three.

demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21405 on: October 02, 2013, 05:43:42 PM »
Yes, and I beat EO4. I luv EO series.

This is also in the booklet for the CD sampler.

:uguu

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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21406 on: October 02, 2013, 06:01:26 PM »
Well I just got Etrian Odyssey Untold in the mail today and I think its AWESOME. So eat a dick, Himurella.

That's fine! EO1 is a great game.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21407 on: October 02, 2013, 08:50:34 PM »
I tried out Mario and Luigi 3ds demo. I will pass. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, it was more just a fairly middling effort that follows the same traditional jrpg formula. No surprises here. I also found myself utterly bored with battle after battle. I never used to find jrpgs so repetitive, but now I almost always do, a few franchises withstanding. It goes to show that preferences have ebbs and peaks. I can no longer bother to make myself sit through the average jrpg anymore. I think time is more valuable doing something more enjoyable. Thankfully DQXI or SMT5 or Persona 5 are a few years off so I won't have to play another jrpg for a while that isn't Monster Hunter.

I think I'm just the opposite, since RPGs (the Japanese kind of course) is one of the very few genres that appeal to me and my limited gaming time nowadays.
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Himu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21408 on: October 02, 2013, 09:39:20 PM »
I tried out Mario and Luigi 3ds demo. I will pass. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good, it was more just a fairly middling effort that follows the same traditional jrpg formula. No surprises here. I also found myself utterly bored with battle after battle. I never used to find jrpgs so repetitive, but now I almost always do, a few franchises withstanding. It goes to show that preferences have ebbs and peaks. I can no longer bother to make myself sit through the average jrpg anymore. I think time is more valuable doing something more enjoyable. Thankfully DQXI or SMT5 or Persona 5 are a few years off so I won't have to play another jrpg for a while that isn't Monster Hunter.

I think I'm just the opposite, since RPGs (the Japanese kind of course) is one of the very few genres that appeal to me and my limited gaming time nowadays.

In my case, it's been like this for a while, I just wasn't able to accept it. The genre is fine, lots to choose from, but for the most part it isn't for me anymore aside from some exceptions.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21409 on: October 03, 2013, 03:21:09 AM »
Well I just got Etrian Odyssey Untold in the mail today and I think its AWESOME. So eat a dick, Himurella.
How is it? I never finished 4.. (oops)

demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21410 on: October 03, 2013, 08:09:53 AM »
Demon's Souls

It is done.

That's it? All that work and "It's done"

Is that how you finish when get done jacking it on yer wife's leg? "It's done."

Where's my writeup?

Well I just got Etrian Odyssey Untold in the mail today and I think its AWESOME. So eat a dick, Himurella.
How is it? I never finished 4.. (oops)

It's more of the same, if you didn't really feel EO4 you prolly won't find that same level of challenge here. I am playing Story Mode, I rather enjoy this new angle to play.
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tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21411 on: October 03, 2013, 09:43:28 PM »
Super Luigi U kinda sucks... I can't stand the slippery controls and jump. Never liked playing as weegee in the other games, it sucks you can't just play Mario in the remixed levels...
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21412 on: October 03, 2013, 10:58:28 PM »
AUDIOSURF 2 IS CA-RA-ZAY
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21413 on: October 04, 2013, 05:33:03 PM »
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The most majestic game. :rejoice The symbolism :rejoice The spirituality :rejoice The martial arts :rejoice The philosophy :rejoice

Second replay this year. :punch 8)

Perfectly emulated on nulldc. :bow
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21414 on: October 04, 2013, 06:23:43 PM »
I got Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 in the mail today from GameFly
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21415 on: October 04, 2013, 07:18:13 PM »
Mostly Tecmo-Koei for me, with DOA5 Ultimate and Musou Orochi 2 Ultimate.  I'm at around 21:30 in MO2 Ultimate now and not even half way done with the main campaign mode.   :dizzy

Tried the Ace Attorney 3DS demo.  Very nice; the change from sprites to polys works well and gives the game a sharper look, plus allows for more animation.

And a friend and I have run into the same idiot several times in DOA5.  Hatemail exchange in spoilers for those who don't care:

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I don't really pay attention to the DOA community -outside of GAF, of course- are people calling Rachel broken, or is this just due to Lopedo (sp) winning The Fall Classic with her?

I played one ranked match against this guy.  It was a lagfest, but even then all he did was mash the punch button with Akira, so I won by blocking and retaliating with basic combos or parrying.  And man, was he SALTY, lol.  (Note- he is responding to me taunting at the end of the last match)

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Reminds me of the good ol' days of vanilla SF4, when the hatemail came by the truckload.

He's back!

A friend sent me the following:

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 :lol

My friend got another one from him!

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What's funny about this is that he fucked up the romanization- it says "You are dead too."
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Joe Molotov

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21416 on: October 04, 2013, 08:10:44 PM »
I got Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 in the mail today from GameFly

The most majestic game. :rejoice The symbolism :rejoice The spirituality :rejoice The martial arts :rejoice The philosophy :rejoice
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21417 on: October 04, 2013, 08:57:20 PM »
Disney Infinity and GTAV. Some World Series of Poker: Full House Pro erryday.

I'll keep my commentary on the first two games in the dedicated threads.

WSOP:FHP continues to baffle me with its connectivity problems. I'm trying to figure out what amount of data they're trying to send. It is unconscionable that there is lag in a freaking poker game. There are up to 9 players in any game; the number of actions they can take is small: bet, call, fold, and preset chip tricks. There is no control over the Avatar other than these things, so data from players is minuscule. Even so, the game frequently enters a total slideshow mode at least once an hour. There is lag on the single-button-press-input, so I end up mashing the button, even as the "player inactivity timer" is counting down on me. It's frustrating. These network problems are consistent throughout the game. It makes me wonder if there displayed "BETA" status means they've actually still got debug code active.

At least I'm finally learning how to play poker...

The Sceneman

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21418 on: October 05, 2013, 03:42:05 AM »
man people werent lying when they said Zeno Clash was weird. The enemy design is downright creepy/cool
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Big Barry Jazz

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #21419 on: October 05, 2013, 08:07:47 AM »
I kept on trying trying to experiment with the moves in Zeno Clash but it always came down to a super punch and then kicking them whilst they were down. Did like the freaky aesthetics, though. Not sure if I'll ever bother with the sequel.