Author Topic: Avatar movie trailer (Read 18259 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #60 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:11:55 PM »

Guess what, I watched it the first time in 1080p. And a second time.

It looks like CG. Some of the scenery is well done, but the aliens look goofy.

The ending can be seen from a mile away... in the teaser.

Oh, Cameron.

twerd · « **Reply #61 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:22:49 PM »

Waterworld 2.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #62 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:26:51 PM »

Waterworld might be better than Avatar!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #63 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:27:29 PM »

Just watched the 720p trailer. Looks like a totally awesome movie, I can't wait to see it.

FatalT · « **Reply #64 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:50:08 PM »

Quote from: Willco on August 20, 2009, 02:11:55 PM

Guess what, I watched it the first time in 1080p. And a second time.

It looks like CG. Some of the scenery is well done, but the aliens look goofy.

The ending can be seen from a mile away... in the teaser.

Oh, Cameron.

What's the ending?

twerd · « **Reply #65 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:51:41 PM »

leonardo dies.

FatalT · « **Reply #66 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:56:25 PM »

Quote from: twerd on August 20, 2009, 02:51:41 PM

leonardo dies.

Who's leonardo?

Barry Egan · « **Reply #67 on:** August 20, 2009, 02:58:16 PM »

one of the four ninja turtles. They show up about halfway in to the picture.

border · « **Reply #68 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:04:52 PM »

This looks awful. If you had told me it was from a crappy Dreamworks animation studio I would have believed you. If you told me it was from James Cameron and he's been working on it for a decade, I would have said "Haha good joke."

Also, the main character's Avatar looks like Frankenstein with Down's Syndrome.

ManaByte · « **Reply #69 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:05:43 PM »

Hey, I've seen this movie before....

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #70 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:05:59 PM »

What if I told you it was from ROBERT ZEMECKIS?

ManaByte · « **Reply #71 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:06:05 PM »

Quote from: border on August 20, 2009, 03:04:52 PM

This looks awful. If you had told me it was from a crappy Dreamworks animation studio I would have believed you. If you told me it was from James Cameron and he's been working on it for a decade, I would have said "Haha good joke."

Decade? Try 18-fucking years.

FatalT · « **Reply #72 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:06:47 PM »

Quote from: Chipopo on August 20, 2009, 02:58:16 PM

one of the four ninja turtles. They show up about halfway in to the picture.

Day one.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #73 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:09:08 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2009, 01:53:28 PM

Quote from: Chipopo on August 20, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 20, 2009, 01:26:20 PM
Yeah, it looks like recycled Terminator and Matrix concept art.

Also, could that story be more telegraphed from just a teaser? This looks like Dances with Wolves in space.

yep. There's really nothing about this movie that seems appealing aside from Cameron's name being attached.

It's an epic scifi movie. That alone is enough to get my attention.

IMMA DO YOU GOOD!

Quote from: Chipopo on August 20, 2009, 02:58:16 PM

one of the four ninja turtles. They show up about halfway in to the picture.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #74 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:21:17 PM »

From Synthesizer Patel on Facebook:

"Azurik of Perathia stars in James Cameron's Disney's Pocohontas: Avatar"

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #75 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:22:48 PM »

All the hyperbole on both sides, those that say it'll be the most amazing thing ever and the people that now believe it's the worst thing ever made, are absolutely hilarious. Get a grip on reality, people!

ManaByte · « **Reply #76 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:22:59 PM »

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #77 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:25:17 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2009, 03:22:48 PM

All the hyperbole on both sides, those that say it'll be the most amazing thing ever and the people that now believe it's the worst thing ever made, are absolutely hilarious. Get a grip on reality, people!

Nobody is saying this.

... You're just being defensive of something you shouldn't have any attachment to. Unless you're a big Azurik fan.

Tieno · « **Reply #78 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:27:18 PM »

same distinguished mentally-challenged fellows always hating.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #79 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:35:32 PM »

Quote from: Willco on August 20, 2009, 03:25:17 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on August 20, 2009, 03:22:48 PM
All the hyperbole on both sides, those that say it'll be the most amazing thing ever and the people that now believe it's the worst thing ever made, are absolutely hilarious. Get a grip on reality, people!

Nobody is saying this.

... You're just being defensive of something you shouldn't have any attachment to. Unless you're a big Azurik fan.

Quite a few people seem to be saying things that aren't too far from that:

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If you had told me it was from a crappy Dreamworks animation studio I would have believed you.

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Waterworld 2.

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There's really nothing about this movie that seems appealing

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Welp that was terrible.

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District 9's bargain bin CG > AVATAR's $200M CG

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #80 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:36:33 PM »

There's a difference between people calling it disappointing and not very good and saying it's the worst thing ever.

Don't get all butthurt because it doesn't look very good.

twerd · « **Reply #81 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:38:36 PM »

what's wrong with waterworld you troll?!

border · « **Reply #82 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:40:31 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on August 20, 2009, 03:34:26 PM

I really hope the humans win in the end.

I've got to imagine some sort of event (perhaps tragic) will make them all realize that they must live together peacefully.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #83 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:40:50 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on August 20, 2009, 03:34:26 PM

I really hope the humans win in the end.

We're humans, we're awesome. We have manifest destiny in the stars.

BamYouHaveAids · « **Reply #84 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:42:05 PM »

looks way worse than i expected

james cameron is the only thing this movie has going for it

twerd · « **Reply #85 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:43:00 PM »

Quote from: Tauntaun on August 20, 2009, 03:40:50 PM

Quote from: Green Shinobi on August 20, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
I really hope the humans win in the end.

We're humans, we're awesome. We have manifest destiny in the stars.

More like manfest destiny.

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/tauntaun

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #86 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:44:43 PM »

Quote from: Willco on August 20, 2009, 03:36:33 PM

There's a difference between people calling it disappointing and not very good and saying it's the worst thing ever.

Don't get all butthurt because it doesn't look very good.

I was using hyperbole to point out the hyperbole of other people.

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The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #87 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:51:40 PM »

Quote from: border on August 20, 2009, 03:40:31 PM

Quote from: Green Shinobi on August 20, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
I really hope the humans win in the end.
I've got to imagine some sort of event (perhaps tragic) will make them all realize that they must live together peacefully.

Or the humans destroy the aliens, and the audience learns a valuable lesson about human savagery and that we must stop our war mongering ways before it's too late.

twerd · « **Reply #88 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »

why spend so much on alien CGI if their design is so humanoid? i am disappoint.

ManaByte · « **Reply #89 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:58:46 PM »

Quote from: twerd on August 20, 2009, 03:53:01 PM

why spend so much on alien CGI if their design is so humanoid? i am disappoint.

bububu they are ten feet tall!

Third · « **Reply #90 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:00:40 PM »

Very underwhelming. And I'm sure they showed the best parts of the movie. $:-\$

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #91 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:09:46 PM »

Why is it a desirable property for a CG film not to look like CG, anyway? Do we rate other things based on how much they don't appear to be what they in fact are?

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #92 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:11:55 PM »

In film? Yes

Mandark · « **Reply #93 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:18:41 PM »

In movies, illusion is basically the whole point.

border · « **Reply #94 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:27:47 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on August 20, 2009, 04:09:46 PM

Why is it a desirable property for a CG film not to look like CG, anyway? Do we rate other things based on how much they don't appear to be what they in fact are?

Special effects have often been judged by how convincing they are.

And to be fair, this film was hyped as the Second Coming of CG. It was supposed to be a revolutionary marvel that could not have ever been done before.....so for it to look like the sort of CG jerkfest that Georgue Lucas has been doing for a decade is something of a letdown.

ManaByte · « **Reply #95 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:48:39 PM »

Quote from: border on August 20, 2009, 04:27:47 PM

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on August 20, 2009, 04:09:46 PM
Why is it a desirable property for a CG film not to look like CG, anyway? Do we rate other things based on how much they don't appear to be what they in fact are?

Special effects have often been judged by how convincing they are.

And to be fair, this film was hyped as the Second Coming of CG. It was supposed to be a revolutionary marvel that could not have ever been done before.....so for it to look like the sort of CG jerkfest that Georgue Lucas has been doing for a decade is something of a letdown.

It doesn't even look as good as stuff ILM was doing three years ago. Someone I know pointed out that Davy Jones in the Pirates movies looks more convincing than the Navi.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #96 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:49:23 PM »

Annihilation: http://blog.spout.com/2009/08/20/10-movies-avatar-unfortunately-resembles/

ManaByte · « **Reply #97 on:** August 20, 2009, 04:54:57 PM »

Quote from: Veidt on August 20, 2009, 01:53:44 PM

People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.

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ILM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Domain

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #98 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:00:27 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 20, 2009, 04:49:23 PM

Annihilation: http://blog.spout.com/2009/08/20/10-movies-avatar-unfortunately-resembles/

"Remember that one movie from twenty years ago? Well, it has a shot in it that sort of looks like a shot from the Avatar trailer! James Cameron hack total!"

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #99 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:07:46 PM »

i agree with people saying that you can't directly compare the two. they're both going for completely different styles.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #100 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:16:05 PM »

Holy shit

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #101 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:20:56 PM »

From Synthesizer Patel's brother:

HOLY SHIT ROFL

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #102 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:25:27 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #103 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:30:00 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on August 20, 2009, 05:28:40 PM

Looks pretty amazing. Hope it makes 2 billion dollars.

Veidt · « **Reply #104 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:37:44 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on August 20, 2009, 04:54:57 PM

Quote from: Veidt on August 20, 2009, 01:53:44 PM
People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.

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ILM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Domain

Dooood. That shit was in motion and hard to capture, the texture and lighting is beyond insane.Digital Domain wins.

Tieno · « **Reply #105 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:42:03 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on August 20, 2009, 04:54:57 PM

Quote from: Veidt on August 20, 2009, 01:53:44 PM
People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.

(Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

ILM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Domain

That's an offscreen grab, you inbred.

ManaByte · « **Reply #106 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:58:30 PM »

Non-offscreen SUPER HIGH RES: http://www.sibulsky.com/andrew/images/InterviewWithToddVaziriILMPartTwo_14353/large3.jpg

Again, ILM >>>>>> Digital Domain.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #107 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:59:48 PM »

Yeah, ILM wins.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #108 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:01:21 PM »

That's not just cg obviously but yea, it destroys Avatar's simple cg. I can't imagine Cameron honestly thinks he has one upped Jones or Gollum

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #109 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:03:16 PM »

"Neytiri for instance, at 1:27, so realistic, I don't see CGI. I see a real life, alien."

twerd · « **Reply #110 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:03:30 PM »

Gollum doesn't really hold up.

Tieno · « **Reply #111 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:04:16 PM »

You nerds can talk all day about what has the better CG, Avatar's CG is really good and looks like a much better movie.

Premise + execution seen in trailer + cameron = me very excited.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #112 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:04:47 PM »

Not really. They look about the same.

Pocahantas with space elves. Yawn.

ManaByte · « **Reply #113 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:05:12 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 20, 2009, 06:01:21 PM

That's not just cg obviously but yea, it destroys Avatar's simple cg. I can't imagine Cameron honestly thinks he has one upped Jones or Gollum

Um. It's 100% CG. Hat, face, tentacles, everything. The mere fact you thought any of Davy Jones wasn't CG showed how fucking untouchable ILM is when it comes to this stuff and how poorly most other effects houses compare.

This is what Bill Nighy looked like on set:

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #114 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:06:27 PM »

Quote from: DanielPlainview

showed my parents the trailer:

Dad: kind of shrugged and walked away, says "looks interesting"

Mom: says not something she would want to see and it "looks very odd, kind of like Jumanji"

Avatar Fail.

Ok, I have to try this with my family

Manabyte: I meant there was mo cap involved, same with Gollum. Is there any mo-cap in Avatar?

ManaByte · « **Reply #115 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:09:51 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 20, 2009, 06:06:27 PM

Quote from: DanielPlainview
showed my parents the trailer:

Dad: kind of shrugged and walked away, says "looks interesting"

Mom: says not something she would want to see and it "looks very odd, kind of like Jumanji"

Avatar Fail.

Ok, I have to try this with my family

Manabyte: I meant there was mo cap involved, same with Gollum. Is there any mo-cap in Avatar?

Avatar used performance capture, like all of the Zemeckis movies do. So yes.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #116 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:10:15 PM »

Trying to determine FX studio talent by way of comparing a still from one movie to a still from a completely different movie with a completely different artistic aim and presentation is the dumbest thing anyone has done today. I'm not sure if I like the look of Avatar, but it sure as hell isn't a poor showing from Digital Domain.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #117 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:11:01 PM »

Butthurt Cameron fans still butthurt.

ManaByte · « **Reply #118 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:11:51 PM »

Quote from: Borys on August 20, 2009, 06:09:00 PM

Quote from: ManaByte on August 20, 2009, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 20, 2009, 06:01:21 PM
That's not just cg obviously but yea, it destroys Avatar's simple cg. I can't imagine Cameron honestly thinks he has one upped Jones or Gollum

Um. It's 100% CG. Hat, face, tentacles, everything. The mere fact you thought any of Davy Jones wasn't CG showed how fucking untouchable ILM is when it comes to this stuff and how poorly most other effects houses compare.

This is what Bill Nighy looked like on set:
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Simply amazing stuff then.

Just from a visual standpoint, Pirates 2 and 3 blow away the original. As great as ILMs skeletons were (they even made Weta rethink the army of the dead in Return of the King after seeing the POTC trailer); Davy Jones, his crew, and the Dutchman all make the two sequels worth watching as every time you notice some detail ILM slipped in that you didn't see before. The BluRays are perfect for that.

twerd · « **Reply #119 on:** August 20, 2009, 06:12:54 PM »

i don't understand the obsession with cameron. he's no better than spielberg, he just puts out less movies.

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Author Topic: Avatar movie trailer (Read 18259 times)