The Bore Steam Thread :monocle

[GilloD]

You know, wouldn't it make more sense for steam to offer deals on games they DIDN'T offer during the xmas sale for the first few months? 
You know, instead of offering the same games from the sale but for even cheaper so they piss off their entire fanbase.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I missed the KB deal during the Christmas Sale because I didn't know anything about the game. Buying it now. Steam

EDIT: Should I spring for both or just Armored Princess? I hear AP is just like the first one except better in every possible way.

KB has a better tutorial, but AP is literally better in every way possible. Common allies get new skills, there's more spells, more quests, more variety. It's an upgrade in every way- You have nothing to gain by playing KB first, except an appreciation or the improvements in AP. Given that they're both long, difficult games, you'll probably only wanna play one. Make it AP

THIS IS SO DIFFICULT.

I played more AP today. Do it. It;s literally an upgrade in every possible way. Here are a few:

-Basic units get more/new abilities to make them more than punching bags for the first 4 hours.
-You no longer have to run back and forth to turn in quests. Some quests get auto-turned-in on completion
-Better navigation. More unique world map with more open-ended play.
-Pet Dragon is awesome and adds a nice extra tactical dimension
-Paladin is balanced better
-Everything looks better
-Better animations (Also, your hero gets off her fucking horse when she's indoors.)
-More units help open up the game a little bit, especially after the first tier guys
-FLYING HORSE THANK GOD
-Get a boat ASAP, improved "Fast-Travel" navigation means no more sailing the wrong way for 10 minutes.

[Raban]

AP it is.

[Fragamemnon]

AP also has a wacky, nutty big difficultly spike about 1/4 through the game that will make players who aren't familiar with the system (and how to abuse it) weep in anguish. It's definitely surmountable provided that you know the basics in terms of which troops are good and which ones are bad and recruit properly, though.

Maybe it's not as pronounced on medium difficultly. I played through the spike on impossible and hard and thought it was ridiculous and that someone who hadn't played KB would be annihilated by it.

[Raban]

AP also has a wacky, nutty big difficultly spike about 1/4 through the game that will make players who aren't familiar with the system (and how to abuse it) weep in anguish. It's definitely surmountable provided that you know the basics in terms of which troops are good and which ones are bad and recruit properly, though.

Maybe it's not as pronounced on medium difficultly. I played through the spike on impossible and hard and thought it was ridiculous and that someone who hadn't played KB would be annihilated by it.

Shit, man. I need to start playing one of these games so I can stop getting on and off the fence on this.

[GilloD]

AP also has a wacky, nutty big difficultly spike about 1/4 through the game that will make players who aren't familiar with the system (and how to abuse it) weep in anguish. It's definitely surmountable provided that you know the basics in terms of which troops are good and which ones are bad and recruit properly, though.

Maybe it's not as pronounced on medium difficultly. I played through the spike on impossible and hard and thought it was ridiculous and that someone who hadn't played KB would be annihilated by it.

Raban- It's 11.75 for BOTH on Steam right now. Get both, play KB for like 6 hours, then hop into AP and enjoy the upgrades. (PROTIP: Options, Battle Animations to "FAST")

[Great Rumbler]

AP also has a wacky, nutty big difficultly spike about 1/4 through the game that will make players who aren't familiar with the system (and how to abuse it) weep in anguish. It's definitely surmountable provided that you know the basics in terms of which troops are good and which ones are bad and recruit properly, though.

Maybe it's not as pronounced on medium difficultly. I played through the spike on impossible and hard and thought it was ridiculous and that someone who hadn't played KB would be annihilated by it.

Raban- It's 11.75 for BOTH on Steam right now. Get both, play KB for like 6 hours, then hop into AP and enjoy the upgrades. (PROTIP: Options, Battle Animations to "FAST")

Pretty much this.

[archie4208]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/40400/

AI War for $10 and the new expansion came out today.

[pilonv1]

You know, wouldn't it make more sense for steam to offer deals on games they DIDN'T offer during the xmas sale for the first few months? 
You know, instead of offering the same games from the sale but for even cheaper so they piss off their entire fanbase.

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I missed the KB deal during the Christmas Sale because I didn't know anything about the game. Buying it now. Steam

EDIT: Should I spring for both or just Armored Princess? I hear AP is just like the first one except better in every possible way.

KB has a better tutorial, but AP is literally better in every way possible. Common allies get new skills, there's more spells, more quests, more variety. It's an upgrade in every way- You have nothing to gain by playing KB first, except an appreciation or the improvements in AP. Given that they're both long, difficult games, you'll probably only wanna play one. Make it AP

THIS IS SO DIFFICULT.

I played more AP today. Do it. It;s literally an upgrade in every possible way. Here are a few:

-Basic units get more/new abilities to make them more than punching bags for the first 4 hours.
-You no longer have to run back and forth to turn in quests. Some quests get auto-turned-in on completion
-Better navigation. More unique world map with more open-ended play.
-Pet Dragon is awesome and adds a nice extra tactical dimension
-Paladin is balanced better
-Everything looks better
-Better animations (Also, your hero gets off her fucking horse when she's indoors.)
-More units help open up the game a little bit, especially after the first tier guys
-FLYING HORSE THANK GOD
-Get a boat ASAP, improved "Fast-Travel" navigation means no more sailing the wrong way for 10 minutes.

Going to uninstall KB now and just play AP once my Civ game is over.

[cool breeze]

Apparently Bioshock 2 will be getting a 4-pack deal.  That means it might be like borderlands and L4D2 where you can get it for around $30.

[Bebpo]

Me and Patel are still looking for 2 others who want $33 Bioshock + Bioshock 2 deal

[pilonv1]

can you do it across regions? i'll go in if so

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Me and Patel are still looking for 2 others who want $33 Bioshock + Bioshock 2 deal

one other; Keith is in. don't think it goes across regions though.

[Raban]

Me and Patel are still looking for 2 others who want $33 Bioshock + Bioshock 2 deal

Wait, what exactly is this/what would I have to do?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

If you buy four copies of Bioshock 2 at once they are $34 each.

You would have to give me your steam key and $34. In exchange you would get Bioshock 2. (And Bioshock 1!)

[Raban]

If you buy four copies of Bioshock 2 at once they are $34 each.

You would have to give me your steam key and $34. In exchange you would get Bioshock 2. (And Bioshock 1!)

Hmm. Maybe. I'm waiting for my debit card in the mail.

[Fragamemnon]

I might actually be in for this after all if you still have room, Patel. Bioshock 2 is using SSA auth with GWFL, so basically once it's activated you're stuck with it.

LMK if you need a fourth.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Yeah, the DRM is shitty as all hell but what can you do? Buying it at $34 on Steam dulls the sting, at least. The only choice you have these days is what size dildo your corporate overlords use. ;_;

If you're def. in I'll pull the trigger. You, me, Bebpo, TVC.

[Fragamemnon]

yeah I'm in. PMz me the paypal information, will send over the $$ double quick.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, the DRM is shitty as all hell but what can you do? Buying it at $34 on Steam dulls the sting, at least. The only choice you have these days is what size dildo your corporate overlords use. ;_;

If you're def. in I'll pull the trigger. You, me, Bebpo, TVC.

What about Pilonv1

You can gift across regions.  We can't let him suffer under AUS videogame pricing tyranny.

[pilonv1]

its cool - i'm checking the ausgaf thread to see if there are any locals using a vpn or something to do it. i know they did with Borederlands

[Joe Molotov]

Weekend deal is Company of Heroes, again. This thing has been on sale so many times.

[ManaByte]

Steam put up the original AvP for $5.

[archie4208]

Psychonauts is on sale for $2.

[Flannel Boy]

$2 too much.

[Bebpo]

$2 too much.

 

[Raban]

$2 too much.

What? What? WHAT?

[Bebpo]

Oh shit, every X-com game ever pack for $2
and both Freedom Force games pack for $2

I approve of this new bundle pack pricing point of $2 

[Eel O'Brian]

AvP Classic has been updated with multiplayer

[Eel O'Brian]

hell, i own both FF games but i might pick up the FF pack for $2 just for the convenience

[Fragamemnon]

X-COM, or at least the original UFO Defense, is timeless. I don't mean that in the usual, "oh I'm attached to this game because I grew up with it/love it" but in the sense that everything that normally "dates" a game and causes it to feel old doesn't seem to apply to X-COM.

Freedom Force games are fun but a lot more forgettable for me. I don't like comics so I suppose that's why.

[Eel O'Brian]

haha, i wish i'd read that two minutes ago

[cool breeze]

haha, I just bought FF (only the first one) on the last day of the steam sale (last hour, actually).

[archie4208]

For the price of two Rock Band songs I can get 7 games?  Insanity.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I've already bought the FF and X-COM packs ... at $5 each.

Frag, can you recommend a good X-COM tutorial? The early game seems very dependent on a large manual that did not come with the Steam version.

[Eel O'Brian]

you can find all the x-com manuals here:

http://www.replacementdocs.com

[Eric P]

also if you right click on the game in the games page, you can usually find the manual

[Fragamemnon]

Frag, can you recommend a good X-COM tutorial? The early game seems very dependent on a large manual that did not come with the Steam version.

http://www.xcomufo.com/usg.html

A must-read for all new X-COM players. It goes into some really important things, notably:

a) Base placement and construction
b) Early tech priorities (laser rifies ,armor, heavy plasma)
c) recruitment (or, more importantly, firing shitty newhires)

and much, much more. This is such a good guide and it'll get you up and actually understanding what is going on in UFO Defense pretty quickly.

[archie4208]

Freedom Force is pretty awesome.  I like the campy comic style and the combat system is no slouch either!  It is like Baldur's Gate for dummies.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

awesome, thanks. I've tried twice to get into X-COM and the lack of any sort of guidance has been a challeng. Not that I "expect" it, of course, but the gentle tutorial mission curve of the late 90s and 00s is completely fucking absent. HERE IS EARTH, ALIENS LANDED, YOU GONNA KILL THEM OR WHAT.

[Joe Molotov]

Freedom Force is pretty awesome.  I like the campy comic style and the combat system is no slouch either!  It is like Baldur's Gate for dummies.

It's still pretty tough though, IIRC.

[archie4208]

Yep.  I've died like 3 times on the second mission.

[Kestastrophe]

Freedom Force is pretty awesome.  I like the campy comic style and the combat system is no slouch either!  It is like Baldur's Gate for dummies.

It's still pretty tough though, IIRC.

It is. I picked up the pack when it first released on Steam last year and I remember posting about the difficulty in one of the gaming threads here. Really fun game, and the generic characters are pretty hilarious.

[chronovore]

For those who have never tried it, Psychonauts, that luscious bit of Tim Schafer tomfoolery, is available on Steam for US$1. ONE. DOLLAH.
http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/1/27/psychonauts_now_on_sale_through/

[Howard Alan Treesong]

For those who have never tried it, Psychonauts, that luscious bit of Tim Schafer tomfoolery, is available on Steam for US$1. ONE. DOLLAH.
http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/1/27/psychonauts_now_on_sale_through/

Your price estimate is off by 100%!

[Great Rumbler]

The sale's over.

[Joe Molotov]

Essentially you're wrong in every regard, sorry.

[Bebpo]

I thought maybe Chronovore was posting like from a parallel world where Psychonauts was still on-sale and for only $1.

[Joe Molotov]

So should everyone that doesn't have it.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I own both games on disc, but I rebought at this price just to Have it Forever and avoid keeping discs/keys around

[Reb]

Are there still people on this board that don't own Titan Quest?

[Raban]

Are there still people on this board that don't own Titan Quest?

I'm still hesitating to purchase it. I have an assload of games already, and I have Torchlight. Is it really all that different? Do you ever get to fight giant monsters and shit? Can I feel like Odysseus?

[Reb]

Are there still people on this board that don't own Titan Quest?

I'm still hesitating to purchase it. I have an assload of games already, and I have Torchlight. Is it really all that different? Do you ever get to fight giant monsters and shit? Can I feel like Odysseus?

It's much better than Torchlight, Torchlight is for people who already played the shit out of Titan Quest.

[Raban]

Are there still people on this board that don't own Titan Quest?

I'm still hesitating to purchase it. I have an assload of games already, and I have Torchlight. Is it really all that different? Do you ever get to fight giant monsters and shit? Can I feel like Odysseus?

It's much better than Torchlight, Torchlight is for people who already played the shit out of Titan Quest.

Is that philosophy backwards compatible? I've already played the shit out of Torchlight.

[Reb]

Nope.

[Raban]

Nope.

[Great Rumbler]

Torchlight is the sort of game that gets right to the point: killing bad guys and getting loot. That's it and that's all. There's some powers you can level up and so on, but it's all secondary stuff. It's more like Diablo 1.

Titan Quest has far deeper skill trees and has a much broader range of locations and towns and sidequests to do. It's more like Diablo 2.

[pilonv1]

any USAers want to help me out a part in a bioshock 4 pack please?

[Jansen]

steam id: xeroxinlola

got my $34 copy of bioshock 2 ready to go!

[pilonv1]

you suck

[pilonv1]

I know. might have to end up using a vpn or something