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I can see Dallas beating Minnesota. They've got the all important momentum going into the Playoffs, where the Vikings are falling victim to the time tested Favre bumblin', sling and slangin' Playoffs tactics.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #1985 on:** January 12, 2010, 12:40:33 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 11, 2010, 09:59:11 PM

My record speaks for itself in this NFL thread

Triumph annihilated

Whoa whoa whoa... do we have to go over this again?

If losing to me twice in the regular season by a total of more than 100 points only to barely beat me by less than 10 in the first round of the playoffs is annihilation... then sure, consider me annihilated. In the meantime, your homeskoold ass might want to consult a dictionary, and not one of the Jesus approved ones that mommy gave you.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1986 on:** January 12, 2010, 01:43:43 AM »

I could see Favre fucking the Vikes over with multiple INTs/dumb decisions. But eh, I really think he's going to win the game for them. Dallas destroyed a team that had no running game; add a poor McNabb showing and you have a recipe for disaster. That's not going to happen at Minnesota.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #1987 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:37:36 PM »

Holy shit!!

I just finished up a Madden game against the Packers. It was a hard fought game and was up 24-20 with :19 left in the game. I was taking knees on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down to run out the clock. Instead of sitting there for 19 second until the clock runs out, I hit supersim to get it over with. It asked me if I wanted to sim the rest of the game. I said yes, heard the crowd roar and toggled down to see the last play.
Apparently we punted and it was returned for a TD instead of letting the clock run out so we lose 24-27!!!!

They didn't need to run a play!!!!!!!

That is the shittiest AI I've ever seen.

EA

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1988 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:28:09 PM »

Alright, gun to your head, if you had to choose one QB who you think will get to the superbowl and win, who do you go with?

On one hand Manning seems like the safest pick, but then again...Manning chokes in the playoffs, and didn't play particularly well when he was in the superbowl. I'm gonna have to think about this

I wouldn't go with Warner or Favre. Any game for them can turn into a turnover-fest

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1989 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:32:34 PM »

Maurice talking about more stuff he knows nothing about:

Quote from: Bleacher Report

These are Peyton Manning's career statistics in the postseason...

348 of 565 (61.5 percent) for 4,207 yards. 22 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions.

His quarterback rating: 84.8

Wait a second, if Manning has been so horrible during the postseason, his numbers have to be worse than that?

Actually no.

With the exception of a few really bad postseason games, Manning has otherwise remained quite effective during January.

To put his postseason quarterback rating in perspective, it's higher than the career quarterback rating of Roger Staubach, Jim Kelly, Len Dawson, Sonny Jurgensen, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Bart Starr, Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, and John Elway. All of them are members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

What a choke artist!

Don't hold Manning's solid numbers against him. The Colts got bounced out of the playoffs many times before mainly because of their non-existent defense.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1990 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:35:44 PM »

22 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions, 84 qb rating? Maybe not "choke artist", but definitely not good.

damn, Riverz or Manning I guess

edit: I'll go with Manning.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #1991 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:38:18 PM »

Don't back down dude!

my pick:

ben roethlisberger

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1992 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:39:53 PM »

Gun to my head, I guess I'd go with Roflesburger too since it would guarantee I'd never read another HarSon post again

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1993 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:44:58 PM »

How is a better postseason passer rating than Staubach, Kelly, Dawson, Jurgensen, Aikman, Moon, Starr, Tarkenton, Fouts and motherflippin' Elway not good?

Just man up and say you were wrong. And if you are referring to Philip Rivers when you say "Phillips", then his postseason stats are worse:

He's thrown for 1522 yards, 7 TDs, 7 INTs for a 80.0 passer rating.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1994 on:** January 14, 2010, 02:47:12 PM »

Manning has underachieved in the playoffs, how can you possibly argue against that? Byes, home field advantage, good o line, and a damn good running game for many of those years? Yea...no.

Rivers has worse stats yea, but I think the Chargers are pretty damn good and could get to the superbowl. Ravens can beat the Colts.

Who do you go with Federwing?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1995 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:53:30 PM »

Again, you can't look at those stats and say Manning has "underachieved" in the playoffs. That's distinguished mentally-challenged. Defense wins championships, and quite frankly, Indy didn't have a remotely decent one until about the time that Manning coincidentally won the Super Bowl. If Manning is an underachiever, so is Aikman, Elway, etc.

Don't be dumb.

My answer? The quarterback doesn't matter, just find a good team. Remember when Trent Dilfer won a ring? Brad Johnson? Joe Theismann for Christ's sake?

You can win a ring with a mediocre QB.

In the fifteen playoff appearances by Manning, you can only realistically peg two or three of the losses on Manning.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1996 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:56:01 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 03:53:30 PM

Don't be dumb.

My answer? The quarterback doesn't matter, just find a good team. Remember when Trent Dilfer won a ring? Brad Johnson? Joe Theismann for Christ's sake?

You can win a ring with a mediocre QB.

Those aren't equivalent statements.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1997 on:** January 14, 2010, 03:58:20 PM »

Yeah, to be fair, you can't win with Tony Banks, but most of what I said still stands - you can win with a "game managing" quarterback. Power running and defense will always trump aerial displays of finesse.

Give me a Kyle Orton or Joe Flacco and a great running back with a Top 5 defense, and I'll get you to the SUPAH BOWL.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1998 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:01:18 PM »

The stats are the definition of underachievement for a QB in Manning's situation; bringing up Elway and others, who were in different situations, is irrelevant. I'm not referring to Indy's defense, I'm referring to Manning's production on the field. Sure Indy has one superbowl due to defense, but their defense has little to do with Manning's performance. He's a different QB in the playoffs

I can't wait for the Ravens/Colts game. Last time they played Manning struggled and the Colts barely won (granted it was at Baltimore). If Flacco doesn't fuck up, I think the Ravens have a shot.

But Willco you didn't answer my question: which QB do you take dammit

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1999 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 14, 2010, 04:01:18 PM

But Willco you didn't answer my question: which QB do you take dammit

Kyle Orton. Learn to read. :lenowned

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2000 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:02:56 PM »

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 14, 2010, 04:02:27 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 14, 2010, 04:01:18 PM

But Willco you didn't answer my question: which QB do you take dammit

Kyle Orton. Learn to read. :lenowned

Kyle Orton is in the playoffs?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2001 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:04:56 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 14, 2010, 04:01:18 PM

The stats are the definition of underachievement for a QB in Manning's situation; bringing up Elway and others, who were in different situations, is irrelevant.

The postseason statistics of other Super Bowl-winning, Hall of Fame quarterbacks are irrelevant when talking about the postseason statistics of Manning?

Really?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2002 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:05:05 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 14, 2010, 04:02:56 PM

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 14, 2010, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 14, 2010, 04:01:18 PM

But Willco you didn't answer my question: which QB do you take dammit

Kyle Orton. Learn to read. :lenowned

Kyle Orton is in the playoffs?

Well, add a great running back and top five defense, two easy tasks. :lenowned

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2003 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:05:54 PM »

That's why you never build around a quarterback. Build around both the offensive and defensive lines, and then work your way from there.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2004 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:08:32 PM »

Honestly I'd agree with Willco on that. You don't need a great qb to win, you need defense and a running game; having a good qb certainly helps though.

But with respect to postseason stats of QBs in different situations than Manning not being analogous...well if you don't see the difference I guess this discussion is hopeless. So which QB do you go with

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2005 on:** January 14, 2010, 04:10:34 PM »

JASON CAMPBELL.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2006 on:** January 14, 2010, 07:14:07 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 02:44:58 PM

How is a better postseason passer rating than Staubach, Kelly, Dawson, Jurgensen, Aikman, Moon, Starr, Tarkenton, Fouts and motherflippin' Elway not good?

Just man up and say you were wrong. And if you are referring to Philip Rivers when you say "Phillips", then his postseason stats are worse:

He's thrown for 1522 yards, 7 TDs, 7 INTs for a 80.0 passer rating.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #2007 on:** January 14, 2010, 08:17:18 PM »

Brehvolution · « **Reply #2008 on:** January 15, 2010, 09:20:32 AM »

Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on January 14, 2010, 07:14:07 PM

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on January 14, 2010, 02:44:58 PM
How is a better postseason passer rating than Staubach, Kelly, Dawson, Jurgensen, Aikman, Moon, Starr, Tarkenton, Fouts and motherflippin' Elway not good?

Just man up and say you were wrong. And if you are referring to Philip Rivers when you say "Phillips", then his postseason stats are worse:

He's thrown for 1522 yards, 7 TDs, 7 INTs for a 80.0 passer rating.

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/Triumph/lasertar.jpg[img]

OMG

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2009 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:33:48 PM »

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2010 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:33:59 PM »

Well that was fast!

Cards

Saints

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2011 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:35:28 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2012 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:37:03 PM »

A team that's been in shambles for years suddenly goes on an amazing run where they win the top seed in the NFC but show signs of weakness in December and then lose in their first playoff game? Where have I heard this story before? Hmmm....

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2013 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:42:20 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 16, 2010, 04:36:44 PM

Jesus

Evolution

I wouldn't go that far. I just took the Cards in my pick-em league.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2014 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:42:57 PM »

for PD: http://www.atdhe.net/11632/watch-arizona-cardinals-vs-new-orleans-saints

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2015 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:44:05 PM »

Atheism fights back.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2016 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 16, 2010, 04:42:57 PM

for PD: http://www.atdhe.net/11632/watch-arizona-cardinals-vs-new-orleans-saints

thanks. Justinsane is working now but the nfl will shit can it soon enough.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2017 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:56:00 PM »

who's this person pretending to be jeremy shocky

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2018 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:56:51 PM »

Breesus > Jesus

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2019 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:56:55 PM »

Team Atheism takes the lead.

Will Warner rise from the dead? He doesn't have three days.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #2020 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:58:48 PM »

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 16, 2010, 04:56:55 PM

Team Atheism takes the lead.

Will Warner rise from the dead? He doesn't have three days.

Three quarters, tho.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #2021 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:10:57 PM »

The devil is testing our faith

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2022 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:11:43 PM »

Team Atheism--aka the SAINTS!--is hammering the nails into Warner.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2023 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:14:15 PM »

Jesus is down

Akala · « **Reply #2024 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:42:20 PM »

GO SAINTS!!!

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2025 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:02:04 PM »

Fuck Leinart's arm is weak. That pass looked like it came from a 6 year old girl.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2026 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:06:42 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 16, 2010, 06:02:04 PM

Fuck Leinart's arm is weak. That pass looked like it came from a 6 year old girl.

False Messiah.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2027 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:08:20 PM »

I really want to see Arizona lose this one but I hope they'll be able to make it closer in the second half just to make it interesting. If Warner isn't able to return, freakin' game over. Leinart can't direct shit.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2028 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:25:21 PM »

Looks like Christianity is on the rebound. Someone must've layed hands on Warner during halftime.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2029 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:27:35 PM »

Jesus rising from the locker room floor!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #2030 on:** January 16, 2010, 06:52:13 PM »

I thought the Saints were the Christian team?

Mandark · « **Reply #2031 on:** January 16, 2010, 07:29:30 PM »

They'd be the Frenchified Catholic team, whereas Warner represents middle American born-again Protestantism.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2032 on:** January 16, 2010, 07:32:02 PM »

Probably made a pact with the devil. I expect another hurricane.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2033 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:39:22 PM »

Is there anything worse than NFL pre-game shows, especially during the playoffs? I love the game analysts on what a team needs to do to win - "They got to stop the other guy from scoring more points and not turn the ball over."

Well holy fuck balls. 1 hour of this crap?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2034 on:** January 17, 2010, 01:28:07 PM »

favrerererererererere

Rman · « **Reply #2035 on:** January 17, 2010, 03:40:14 PM »

LOL Cowboys.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #2036 on:** January 17, 2010, 03:40:42 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on January 17, 2010, 01:41:41 PM

GOD DAMMIT ROMO. WIN THIS GAME. STOP FUCKING ME OVER.

Counting on Romo?

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #2037 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:02:11 PM »

That last TD was hilarious

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #2038 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:03:39 PM »

I don't really give a shit about outcomes anymore, I just want to see a good game. Outside of that Arizona-Green Bay game, this year's playoffs have sucked.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #2039 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:04:58 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 17, 2010, 04:03:39 PM

I don't really give a shit about outcomes anymore, I just want to see a good game. Outside of that Arizona-Green Bay game, this year's playoffs have sucked.

Gonna have to wait until at least next weekend, then.

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