Author Topic: Motorstorm PSP rules / GT PSP sucks (Read 4939 times)

pilonv1 · « **on:** September 14, 2009, 07:15:12 AM »

Feb 25, 2009

Sept 14, 2009

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/motorstorm-arctic-edge-review

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MotorStorm: Arctic Edge is not a pretty game - and not just because, like its big console cousins, it's concerned with rough-and-tumble racing through perilous terrain in angry, roaring machines.

No, MotorStorm's PSP debut simply isn't very good looking. Vehicles are boxy, their deformation patterns strangely triangular, details a tad smudgy.

maxy · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2009, 07:44:45 AM »

Sony

And some people really believed that first pics are real....omg psp is such a beast

But 7/10 is not a bad score from EG.

Third · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:32:06 AM »

Lol, Pacific Rift doesn't even look as good as the feb 25 pics.

cool breeze · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:58:23 AM »

Looks fine for a PSP game. But it's also a PS2 game, and like most PSP -> PS2 games, that version would probably look terrible.

Waiting for demo or a way to play the leaked version. Want to try before deciding if it's worth getting.

And it's pretty funny that Sony is launching this game two or three days before Gran Turismo PSP. I'm sure someone out there thought it was a good idea to release the two big PSP racing games (since the last Wipeout) at the same time.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2009, 12:43:25 PM »

ThreeSpeech deceive us!? NOOOOOOOOO

duckman2000 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2009, 01:15:59 PM »

I really would like a Motorstorm game like this for the PS3. There's a serious lack of ice and snow racing this generation.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2009, 02:14:41 PM »

I'm all for mocking Sony but Motorstorm does look really nice for a portable game.

Compare Motorstorm to Ridge Racer. They don't even seem to be running on the same system.

The PSP actually seems to have the "untapped potential" that PS3 fanboys constantly talk about.

cool breeze · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2009, 08:51:29 PM »

well, motorstorm psp looks bad compared to gran turismo psp. And the new Jak and Daxter game looks worse than Daxter. And Assassin's Creed PSP looks really blocky and choppy based on the latest videos. I don't think the PSP or DS have had any huge leaps in graphics. Some games still get me like Dissidia and Resistance Retribution (and Okami on the DS)

bork · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:27:53 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on September 14, 2009, 01:15:59 PM

I really would like a Motorstorm game like this for the PS3. There's a serious lack of ice and snow racing this generation.

SSX needs to come back. :'(

Bebpo · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2009, 10:37:37 PM »

I would play this, but you know...firmware :X

bork · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:24:00 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 14, 2009, 10:37:37 PM

I would play this, but you know...firmware :X

Gran Turismo is going to use OFW 6.00. There's speculation that the hackers are waiting/working on that and skipping 5.55.

Bebpo · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:26:39 AM »

Yeah, if 6.00 gets an official M33 release I will be stoked. Mainly because Ys FREAKING SEVEN comes out this Thursday in Japan and I'd really like to import it. So far games that are cool but don't work on M33 psp:

-Tales of Vs.
-Ys I/II
-Motorstorm

and soon Gran Turismo & Ys Seven

Hope they hack it!

bork · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:53:04 AM »

Yeah, I wouldn't mind trying out Tales Of Vs. and Motorstorm. I have Tenchu 3 shelved waiting for an update, too.

Dunno if Dark Alex will do another update, but rumor has it the GEN team is getting 6.00 ready.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:54:19 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on September 15, 2009, 01:24:00 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 14, 2009, 10:37:37 PM
I would play this, but you know...firmware :X

Gran Turismo is going to use OFW 6.00. There's speculation that the hackers are waiting/working on that and skipping 5.55.

GT PSP

I CAN RACE MY HONDA FIT WHILE DRIVING MY HONDA FIT

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Forza is better but I'll take what I can get as far as portables are concerned

[close]

demi · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:54:48 AM »

I'm pretty sure Tales of VS has some sort of protection on it, not just the firmware hurdle.

Bebpo · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:55:54 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on September 15, 2009, 01:53:04 AM

Yeah, I wouldn't mind trying out Tales Of Vs. and Motorstorm. I have Tenchu 3 shelved waiting for an update, too.

Dunno if Dark Alex will do another update, but rumor has it the GEN team is getting 6.00 ready.

I've heard all the non-M33 firmwares are buggered and have a good chance of breaking your psp

Otherwise I'd have updated to 5.50 as there is a group that did that.

I really hope Dark Alex does 6.00. I don't trust these other guys and my Pandora battery died over a year ago so I can't fix my psp if it bricks.

Quote from: demi on September 15, 2009, 01:54:48 AM

I'm pretty sure Tales of VS has some sort of protection on it, not just the firmware hurdle.

Well maybe if a 6.0 M33 comes out at least the disc version will work? I'd buy it since I have a near complete Tales collection.

Bebpo · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2009, 01:58:52 AM »

Can you go straight from an M33 firmware -> Sony official firmware or will it brick?

I have a 2nd PSP-1000 that's M33 3.something and hasn't been turned on in 2 years. I wouldn't mind updating it to official 6.0 just so I can play some of these games.

*edit actually it's 1.50, just checked

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:04:40 AM »

You can put OFW on from M33

Bebpo · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:06:45 AM »

cool, gonna do that now since I never use this one.

Bebpo · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2009, 02:43:18 AM »

Ok, have a 6.00. Yay; can play demos now. Tempted to import Ys now. Will wait and see if you can buy from JPN store or if it has a data install option.

bork · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:42:23 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2009, 02:43:18 AM

Ok, have a 6.00. Yay; can play demos now. Tempted to import Ys now. Will wait and see if you can buy from JPN store or if it has a data install option.

How do you buy stuff from the Japan store? Finding prepaid cards online is always pricey...

Bebpo · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:25:41 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on September 15, 2009, 03:42:23 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2009, 02:43:18 AM
Ok, have a 6.00. Yay; can play demos now. Tempted to import Ys now. Will wait and see if you can buy from JPN store or if it has a data install option.

How do you buy stuff from the Japan store? Finding prepaid cards online is always pricey...

Just have a nice guy in Japan buy you points

I do that and then last time I was there on a trip I grabbed a $100 one which has lasted me a while so far (if you're not buying full priced PSP games, it goes a looooong way)

Bebpo · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:39:46 AM »

The reports I read since 5.03+ said he was still in the hacking business but just didn't do 5.x because he felt they were not worth the time. Seems like 6.00 would be since it's a major update.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** September 15, 2009, 11:59:50 AM »

Should I get a new psp if there's not going to be a 6.0?

cool breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** September 15, 2009, 12:15:03 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on September 15, 2009, 11:59:50 AM

Should I get a new psp if there's not going to be a 6.0?

There are more than credible rumors of a PSP 4000 that could be released in the future. I'd say hold off for that a bit. It's supposed to follow up the 3000 and not the Go.

And honestly, with the exception of Dissidia, which I needed to pirate so I could play it on my trip early (own the retail copy now), I haven't missed CFW too much on my 3000 when it comes to PSP games. I still have Outrun 2 on my 2000 since that game is one of the ones that gets much better with 333 on CFW. Since I upgraded my 2000 to 5.50 oe-b a few weeks ago, I was hoping to at least demo the upcoming number of PSP games before I decided to buy, but I guess that can't happen now.

Bebpo · « **Reply #25 on:** September 15, 2009, 12:40:25 PM »

Once all PSP games have a data install option, I don't care about custom firmware anymore. But until they do it's still a big deal for me because I refuse to play PSP games with load times after years of instant loading for everything.

bork · « **Reply #26 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:24:42 PM »

So GEN team's 6.00 CFW it is!

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2009, 12:40:25 PM

Once all PSP games have a data install option, I don't care about custom firmware anymore. But until they do it's still a big deal for me because I refuse to play PSP games with load times after years of instant loading for everything.

I still want to be able to rip my own games. It's nice to have multiple titles on the PSP and nothing else to carry around.

cool breeze · « **Reply #27 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:27:02 PM »

So, GT PSP sounds like a mess. It still looks ridiculously good for a portable game, and the racing is supposed to be GT4, and there are something like 800 cars and 50 tracks...but no career mode. All there is to do is quick race, time trial, drift trial or license tests. No online either. What's worse is how you buy cars. Every day the game lets you buy a car from four manufacturers; if you want the Bugatti Veyron, you have to wait for a day that Bugatti is selectable. And all races get you is money, not cars or anything else.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #28 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:45:34 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on September 15, 2009, 03:27:02 PM

So, GT PSP sounds like a mess. It still looks ridiculously good for a portable game, and the racing is supposed to be GT4, and there are something like 800 cars and 50 tracks...but no career mode. All there is to do is quick race, time trial, drift trial or license tests. No online either. What's worse is how you buy cars. Every day the game lets you buy a car from four manufacturers; if you want the Bugatti Veyron, you have to wait for a day that Bugatti is selectable. And all races get you is money, not cars or anything else.

No career mode

I can't imagine the justification for that. Amazing how these decisions get made without a producer saying "no wait, that's fucking stupid". smh

bork · « **Reply #29 on:** September 15, 2009, 03:51:32 PM »

You only race against three other cars.

bork · « **Reply #30 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:38:59 PM »

Wow, not only does Motorstorm PSP have more modes, but it has online play too!

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #31 on:** September 15, 2009, 04:45:21 PM »

IGN's review of Gran Turismo PSP:

http://psp.ign.com/articles/102/1024698p1.html

Sounds like Bebpo was right.

It could have been the free GOTY.

It's interesting that IGN pointed out that the graphics are good but not the best on the PSP. Which of the current PSP racers look better than GT?

bork · « **Reply #32 on:** September 15, 2009, 05:12:19 PM »

Did they specifically mention racers when talking about the graphics? If not, I think Tekken 5 DR (soon to be Tekken 6) and Soul Calibur BD have the best visuals on the PSP. Maybe God Of War Chains Of Olympus too.

Bebpo · « **Reply #33 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:20:34 PM »

Dissidia?

SE games unlock the 4th core on PSP; especially in cutscenes. KH BBS looks insane.

cool breeze · « **Reply #34 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:27:12 PM »

Resistance Retribution looks better than a lot of PS2 games. Sony Bend are wizards.

bork · « **Reply #35 on:** September 15, 2009, 07:39:09 PM »

Oh yeah, wasn't even thinking about Square.

Resistance Retribution too. And Outrun.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:29:51 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on September 15, 2009, 03:27:02 PM

So, GT PSP sounds like a mess. It still looks ridiculously good for a portable game, and the racing is supposed to be GT4, and there are something like 800 cars and 50 tracks...but no career mode. All there is to do is quick race, time trial, drift trial or license tests. No online either. What's worse is how you buy cars. Every day the game lets you buy a car from four manufacturers; if you want the Bugatti Veyron, you have to wait for a day that Bugatti is selectable. And all races get you is money, not cars or anything else.

wtf

bork · « **Reply #37 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:31:11 PM »

@ the topic change.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #38 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:37:05 PM »

i blame duckroll

pilonv1 · « **Reply #39 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:38:49 PM »

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The second issue, which is actually not quite as debilitating (but still annoying), is that the game runs on a calendar system and on each day you can only buy vehicles from four manufacturers. Every two days these four choices change to offer up new cars to pick from. So, one day you might have Honda, Toyota, Mugen and Daihatsu, whereas two days later you might be able to pick from Ford, Lamborghini, RUF and Mitsubishi. Note that you have no idea what manufacturers will be available when, so you can't say, "Oh, Ferrari will be available in two days." It could be 100 days for all you know. Also, even if a manufacturer is available on a day, you will only have access to a limited number of its vehicles at any given time. By my count, you can purchase about a dozen at a time at most, though you might also only be able to choose from one or two cars. So when Lamborghini or Ferrari does eventually show up, don't count on being able to totally stock up as your selection may be very limited.

WTF

bork · « **Reply #40 on:** September 15, 2009, 09:39:45 PM »

Those poor Polyphony guys have been hold up in their offices so long that they've gone insane.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #41 on:** September 15, 2009, 10:12:34 PM »

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There is no “Career Mode” included within. Instead you choose from one of the 35 tracks or any of their variations (different configurations of some, and reverse mode on all,) and work your way up from Class D to Class A on each. You start with 100k credits, which is nice because you can pick-up two or three cars right out of the gate

sounds like their is a "pseudo progression", just not the one people are used to.

The buying stuff is so wrong though

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #42 on:** September 15, 2009, 10:15:57 PM »

Wow, talk about dragging GT in the mud. I can't believe they would release a GT game that merits a sub-7 score from a site like IGN.

As an aside, I really wish the PSP Go didn't suck shit. I would like to have a PSP that I could keep on OFW so I could dick around with new games and PS3 demos without having to go through a hassle.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #43 on:** September 15, 2009, 10:19:38 PM »

GT has always sucked.

Motorstorm however....

originalz · « **Reply #44 on:** September 16, 2009, 03:42:58 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on September 15, 2009, 03:42:23 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on September 15, 2009, 02:43:18 AM
Ok, have a 6.00. Yay; can play demos now. Tempted to import Ys now. Will wait and see if you can buy from JPN store or if it has a data install option.

How do you buy stuff from the Japan store? Finding prepaid cards online is always pricey...

Hah, you should know that I can hook you up for all your gamecard needs!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #45 on:** September 16, 2009, 04:16:47 AM »

I bet you can get around the car purchasing nonsense by re-setting your system clock but even so that is absolutely

levels of distinguished mentally-challenged. Very disappointed to hear this.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #46 on:** September 16, 2009, 05:34:22 AM »

Why it's just like real life, where the car I wanted to buy was unavailable everywhere so I had to spend days trying different dealers. Now Polyphony brings that face-punching frustration to my video games.

Japan loves player abuse. That's why I only play games like
BAT MAN

maxy · « **Reply #47 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:41:57 AM »

Sony is really on crack if they think that GT PSP is going to sell PSP Go

Europe has started boycotting PSP Go,

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Holland's largest specialised retail outlet, Nedgame, has decided not to sell the PSPgo this October. And, the shop explained to Eurogamer Holland, there are a handful of reasons why.

The hefty price-tag of €249.99 being one of them. That's €80 more than the PSP-3000 costs, a difference Nedgame believes the new handheld does not justify - the smaller screen is picked out as an example.

A more telling reason is the lack of a UMD drive. That means Nedgame cannot sell games for the PSPgo, which is where retailers make the most profit. And, as downloadable games will be tied to PSN accounts, trading and swapping will fast become a thing of the past.

Nedgame also mentioned its discomfort at Sony creating a monopoly on the software sold on PSPgo.

Eurogamer Holland goes on to point out that Nedgame are not the only Dutch outlet to boycott Sony's new handheld.

Eurogamer Spain has also heard rumblings that retailers there may do the same.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/biggest-dutch-retailer-boycotts-pspgo

cool breeze · « **Reply #48 on:** September 29, 2009, 10:55:12 PM »

thanks to Yoshihiro I was able to try both of these out

Gran Turismo PSP: Really boring. After GT5p and especially the Forza 3 demo, this feels like an awkward time between GT1/2 and 3/4; it's not arcadey nor does it seem to have something resembling a sim. It's very static and dull. No sense of speed even though initially the graphics seem nice. I thought the driving would be on par with GT4, but it's not. Boring driving + stunning distinguished mentally-challenged game structure = why would you buy this?

Motorstorm PSP: It's Motorstorm PR on the PSP, ergo FUCK AWESOME. Game looks fine and has a lot more going on than GT PSP. Only positive change is that the third person camera is now a lot more usable, which is nice for smaller vehicles. Um, other thing that would have been nice is custom soundtracks, but whatever. One weird thing is that the game defaults to "motorstorm" controls that don't make sense on the PSP. "Motorstorm" controls are R/L for accel/brake, but the PSP hs digital triggers. It lets you switch to normal X/[], and even use d-pad to steer, it was just odd. And I did hear that the game starts out easy, and that seems to be true, but it should get harder according to the same people. Other than those issues, it's basically Motorstorm PR with snow environments on the PSP. Gonna order this ~~tomorrow~~ right now

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #49 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:27:20 PM »

What's Yoshihiro? Some kinda crack?

If so, why would you buy either game, regardless of quality?

bork · « **Reply #50 on:** September 30, 2009, 12:13:27 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 29, 2009, 11:27:20 PM

What's Yoshihiro? Some kinda crack?

If so, why would you buy either game, regardless of quality?

He wants to purchase stuff legally.

Yoshihiro is a PSP hacker who just released a way to crack most of the 5.55 firmware games.

cool breeze · « **Reply #51 on:** September 30, 2009, 12:14:06 AM »

So I can stress my financial security and show my worth as a human with the plastic cases that fill my room.

Plus, I was on the edge of buying Motorstorm anyway since Amazon had it for $10-12 cheaper than retail or PSN.

bork · « **Reply #52 on:** September 30, 2009, 12:19:09 AM »

There's already torrents for the patched games popping up. Sony owned again.

cool breeze · « **Reply #53 on:** September 30, 2009, 12:20:26 AM »

the only one that didn't work and I wanted to try was that Naruto game that looked like the PS3 one.

haha, seems like it has been taken care of as well.

it's a crappy beat em up game

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #54 on:** September 30, 2009, 12:30:42 AM »

What firmware do Persona and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 need?

PSP internet store

bork · « **Reply #55 on:** September 30, 2009, 01:37:20 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 30, 2009, 12:30:42 AM

What firmware do Persona and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 need?

PSP internet store

5.55. Games from the internet store can't be hacked this way, BTW.

I'm downloading Motorstorm now and will try converting Tenchu 3 Portable myself. Meijilan at NeoGAF said the only game he tried converting that didn't work was Soul Calibur BD, and there's already a work-around for the game anyway!

Bebpo · « **Reply #56 on:** September 30, 2009, 02:17:29 AM »

Hmm, need to find out if this works on Ys I&II and Ys Seven
oh and Tales of Vs.

bork · « **Reply #57 on:** September 30, 2009, 04:25:47 AM »

I've seen posts saying Tales Of Vs. works.

I tried converting Tenchu 3 Portable, and it worked! Too bad after playing it, the controls are kinda wonky and I'd much rather play Tenchu 4 instead.

cool breeze · « **Reply #58 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:37:59 AM »

Quote from: the lyte edge on September 30, 2009, 04:25:47 AM

I've seen posts saying Tales Of Vs. works.

I tried converting Tenchu 3 Portable, and it worked! Too bad after playing it, the controls are kinda wonky and I'd much rather play Tenchu 4 instead.

PSP has Shinobido if you want good older style Tenchu. Acquire

Bebpo · « **Reply #59 on:** September 30, 2009, 08:50:54 PM »

So I really don't have time to get into this Yoshiro complicated stuff, but can you just take an iso file, expand it, run the yoshiro thing, repack it, play it on 5.50GEN? Also has anyone tested if these patched versions work on M33 5.00-6? I'm kinda afraid to upgrade to 5.50 cause every so often I read somebody bricking theirs in the transition :X

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Author Topic: Motorstorm PSP rules / GT PSP sucks (Read 4939 times)