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Nintendo is really shit this generation
« on: September 16, 2009, 10:27:00 AM »
Outside of the DS, there isnt much being happy about.  The Wii, despite great sales is a pile of shit. I haven't played on mine since Mario Galaxy, and that was in 2007. So why have Nintendo had such a poor output of games in the last 2 years? It does not make sense, because they make shitloads of money and they should spend some of it in new studious or something. But no, they're too cheap and there is no REAL reason to use the wiimote in games, because there are no games that are amazing with the wiimote.

Oh and Zelda isn't even relevant anymore. Mario is still pretty fun, but that's about it.


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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 10:29:15 AM »
Nintendo is no longer caters to your needs.  Buy a 360

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Re: Nintendo is Nintendo this generation
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 10:53:40 AM »
What difference does it make? Find something else to do with your time.

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 11:00:35 AM »
What's a Nintendo?

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 11:16:02 AM »
Woah there, bashing Nintendo on Evilbore? You're treading on some thin ice, buddy.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 11:35:04 AM »
Nintendo is no longer caters to your needs.  Buy a 360

I have one. Very happy about it.

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 12:07:48 PM »
I refuse to buy a Wii, the jaggies cut me to my soul

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 12:12:37 PM »
Mario Galaxy is the only good Nintendo product of this generation.

The rest is utter shit.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 12:28:36 PM »
forget nintendo. just buy a ps3 to get all your waggle needs (assuming you're crazy enough to feel that you need waggle) since that's where failed third party wii games will be heading :lol

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 02:50:14 PM »
You seem pretty jaded, dude. :/

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 02:52:08 PM »
Nintendo is best if you just take the good, leave the bad.  Buy a 360/PS3 (preferably a 360) and see if you want to spend the money on a Wii/DS for their core franchises.  You'll feel better about yourself and gaming in general that way.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 02:55:11 PM »
Metroid Prime 3 was good too.

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 03:09:23 PM »
Nintendo is best if you just take the good, leave the bad.

Sorry, just Mario Galaxy doesn't work for me.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 03:41:56 PM »
And that's your prerogative and I have no issue with that.  To me though, I really enjoyed Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart, and a small few third party games.  I keep the system around for those reasons.  I can see why people don't keep it though and don't like it, it's no big deal.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 05:18:46 PM »
Buy Mini Ninjas, it's on the Wii.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 06:22:04 PM »
yeah, I haven't touched the Wii in ages... If it wasn't for Metroid and Mario coming next year I probably would've sold it by now. Most recent game I've tried was MadWorld, but that got old after 3 levels and I never really went back to it. There are other titles that I might give a shot like Muramasa, but in general the Wii just doesn't have any appeal compared to the 360 and PS3. I've gotten so used to the features there that it's getting kinda hard to go back to a prev gen system.

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 06:45:20 PM »
Metroid Prime 3 was good too.

Compared to the first two. No.

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 07:07:33 PM »
Metroid Prime 3 was good too.

Compared to the first two. No.

First one is the best, but 3 is better than 2.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 08:15:13 PM »
Nintendo is best

no ntard, they are not :lol

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 08:23:00 PM »
Cool dude
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2009, 11:51:27 PM »
This gen?  I know SantaC probably got off to Batman Dark Tomorrow, but Nintendo systems have been hot since SNES.  It may be nice to look back at the entire console life cycle at the end and say "N64 had OoT and Mario 64 and..." but those games also had monthly/yearly gaps.  And the Wii at least has some good Nintendo games once or twice a year.   Gamecube had long waits for Mario Sunshine while PS2 was rocking house with three different platformer series with three games apiece.  It looks bad because we're in the thick of the Wii era.  At the end, whenever that may be, the culmination of titles will trounce the Gamecube and cum on its corpse.

DS is a different story.  It does have the worst real Zelda game with Phantom Hourglass and kinda disappointing return of 2D Mario, but it still has a lot of good games, both from Nintendo and third parties.  I'm not a fan of the hardware and still can't think of a single game that benefits from two screens (let alone two touch screens...DS2 tard wish lists ::)) and none of the iterations are comfortable to hold. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 11:55:29 PM »
"take the good, leave the bad"

So... nintendo is still shit
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2009, 12:01:35 AM »
I haven't bought a Wii game since last April. If there were 2 worthwhile Nintendo games a year I'd be happy.

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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2009, 12:08:04 AM »
I'd really like to get Little King Story, since it's apparently one of the best Wii games this year. Don't have the money right now, though.  :'(
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2009, 12:11:44 AM »
First-party wise I definitely prefer the Mario and Zelda on Wii over the GC ones... where Wii is really failing for me is with the RPGs. You'd think the 3rd best selling system in Japan would get some good ones, but no not really. I'd still rather play the genre on console than handhelds, no matter what others may say about handheld superiority.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2009, 12:20:29 AM »
The Zelda on Wii is the Zelda on Cube :lol

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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2009, 12:22:31 AM »
I'd really like to get Little King Story, since it's apparently one of the best Wii games this year. Don't have the money right now, though.  :'(

It's one of the best Wii games periods.  It's like a much better Pikmin.

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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2009, 01:11:50 AM »
I'd really like to get Little King Story, since it's apparently one of the best Wii games this year. Don't have the money right now, though.  :'(

It's one of the best Wii games periods.  It's like a much better Pikmin.

I'd also like to get Rune Factory Frontier, but haven't for the same reason.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2009, 01:28:36 AM »
It's been downhill ever since the N64.  The NES, SNES, Gameboy, and Gameboy Advance were Nintendo's best systems.
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2009, 07:55:43 AM »
It's been downhill ever since the N64.  The NES, SNES, Gameboy, and Gameboy Advance were Nintendo's best systems.

pretty much

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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2009, 08:27:03 AM »
The Wii has a much better library than the gc and n64.  Like I said about the ps3, despite the fact that if you compare it to a current system with a superior feature list, its still a step up from its predecessor.  I love the virtual console and wiiware.  I like motion detection when done right (mostly tilt and m+ games) and the IR pointer is arguably the best control innovation this gen.  Their online setup is convoluted if you want to play with people you know, but compare that to the maybe 3 online gc games with no communication or friend lists either.

So I can understand if you have a pc or 360 or ps3 and have no interest, but compared to other Nintendo systems I'd say its better than gb, gba, n64, and the cube.  Yes, I didn't care for the gba.  I bought alot of games for it but the only standouts to me were advance wars and the yoshi island port.   Now if we're comparing it to the snes, ds, or nes- then yes, it has a ways to go.  But its got a few more years to flesh it out. 

edit: gba had warioware twisted and zero mission too.  So maybe 4-5 games I personally enjoyed when all was said and done.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2009, 08:40:40 AM »
Nintendo is just lazy.  When the same shit sells 300,000 copies a month worldwide for several years, why bother trying?

I wouldn't say Nintendo is shit but they are extremely unambitious.  They believe that just the hardware will sell alone and they are right.  Other than waggling, Nintendo just does not give a fuck.  If you want proof, check out their library past Mario Kart Wii, probably at the point where Nintendo realized that they didn't really need to make any new games.  The end result?  Wii Music (lol), Punch Out (Flash game), Metroid Prime Trilogy (useless; you can play all three games on the GC already), Wii Sports Resort.

That is the new Nintendo.

2010 has a few interesting things.  My guess is that Nintendo believes people will get tired of Wii Play three years after release and that they should throw a few bones to the owners that aren't grandmas or soccer moms.  The gaming media (lol) will accept this and cheer loudly, saying nobody does it like Nintendo.  Some people already consider them the download kings, which is absolutely laughable.  Nintards get it wrong; Nintendo gets all the free passes it wants if they show something that isn't total derivative shit is on the horizon.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2009, 09:07:13 AM »
It is insulting that you have developers who are trying to push the boundaries of game design who only sell a few hundred thousand copies of their game while Nintendo dominates the sales charts with yet another Mario Kart and Pokemon game.

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2009, 09:13:59 AM »
How can anyone say wii has a better library than n64?
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2009, 09:17:43 AM »
Did Grammar just say that PS3 is better than PS2?


And yea, Nintendo would obviously rather have an old ass game keep appearing in the top 10 then have to pay to develop a new one. What  boggles my mind is why you'll see Nintendo fans snatch that talking point right up, and wear it proud in topics like this one (at other sites). Why would anyone be smug about a content provider being 'so confident' in their device's sales potential that there is no need for further support? When Jack Tretton or whoever the fuck said exactly that about the PS3 when it launched, he was ridiculed for months or years.

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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2009, 09:37:01 AM »
I'm a little confused about something T EXP
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94414

You weren't exactly a nintendo fanboy back then, what made you decide to go wii exclusive for a year?
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2009, 09:40:15 AM »
How can anyone say wii has a better library than n64?

Because it does.  I guess Wii doesn't have starfox and fzero but it has more stuff to offer on a consistent basis.

Admiral, I was saying that both the ps3 and wii have a better set of features than their predecessors.  When developers take advantage of it good games are had.
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SantaC

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2009, 09:42:58 AM »
How can anyone say wii has a better library than n64?

I hope no one. The N64, while few games had some amazing titles. The big Wii games are just lazy.

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Because it does.  I guess Wii doesn't have starfox and fzero but it has more stuff to offer on a consistent basis.

The difference is that Nintendo spent effort in their N64 titles.

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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2009, 09:48:07 AM »
N64 had huge stretches of nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg.  I was embarassed to own the system when they had to resort to advertising Glover.  MOTHERFUCKING GLOVER

09 has been so consistent that I had to just forsake some games.  I didn't pick up dawn of discovery, or rune factory frontier for instance.
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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2009, 09:52:41 AM »
N64 had huge stretches of nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg.

Uhhhh

And wii doesn't?

How can anyone say wii has a better library than n64?

Because it does.  I guess Wii doesn't have starfox and fzero but it has more stuff to offer on a consistent basis.

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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2009, 09:56:19 AM »
N64 had huge stretches of nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg.  I was embarassed to own the system when they had to resort to advertising Glover.  MOTHERFUCKING GLOVER

09 has been so consistent that I had to just forsake some games.  I didn't pick up dawn of discovery, or rune factory frontier for instance.

Dude, don't diss Glover!



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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2009, 09:58:43 AM »
It is insulting that you have developers who are trying to push the boundaries of game design who only sell a few hundred thousand copies of their game while Nintendo dominates the sales charts with yet another Mario Kart and Pokemon game.

Is that more insulting than Activision dominating with ANOTHER Guitar Hero spinoff, or a shitty game based on a movie license, or the yearly Madden game dominating?

Most of the best games ever made sold like shit, since the start of the industry...
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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2009, 10:09:23 AM »
N64 had huge stretches of nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg.  I was embarassed to own the system when they had to resort to advertising Glover.  MOTHERFUCKING GLOVER

09 has been so consistent that I had to just forsake some games.  I didn't pick up dawn of discovery, or rune factory frontier for instance.

Wii is just about to top N64s stretch of nothing.

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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2009, 12:04:55 PM »
The difference here is volume.

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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2009, 12:48:53 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with
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« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2009, 02:28:20 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts.

Not surprised. Nintendo is targeting the old people this generation.   :teehee

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« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2009, 02:40:59 PM »
Yes, my 60+ year old parents just LOVE Wii Sports Resort!
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« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2009, 03:02:26 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with

...Wii Sports Resort isn't a game.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2009, 06:45:56 PM »
I'm a little confused about something T EXP
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94414

You weren't exactly a nintendo fanboy back then, what made you decide to go wii exclusive for a year?

I didn't own any system at the time and I had to have Mario Galaxy.  That meant owning a Wii and with Smash Brothers (that game turned out to be a tchotchke collect-a-thon more than a game) and Mario Kart on the horizon, I figured it would be worth my while.  Plus at the time I believed that the Wii's success would produce more games than it has.  I didn't expect third parties to go Wii exclusive like some still hope but I expected something.  So I kept it for a few months.  I got tired of it after beating enough 12 year old Euros online in Mario Kart and after Nintendo's fuck awful E3, it was clear that it wouldn't last me for another couple of months.  With Wii demand still high, I sold it.  With all the games I sold with it, I think I made a slight profit but I don't remember.

It was pretty bad.  It meant waiting for good stuff (well, potentially good as Brawl sucked) while poking around the B and C grade quality stuff (Zack and Wiki, Metal Slug Anthology, HOTD 2 and 3, Ghost Squad) to see if they were down at a price that would be considered worth it.  The wait was too long and that was at a time when the Wii arguably hit its peak.  I don't know how they do it now, except depending entirely on the B and C grade stuff like Little King Story.  During its prime, it was still pretty boring.  Half of it was full of fun and dare I say, whimsy, but the other half was arduous waiting or stomaching the crap that was now considered good by the likes of Andrex and jrricky.

I will most likely re-Wii when Galaxy 2 comes out.  With that, I can replay the original Galaxy, NSMB, Sin and Punishment 2, and maybe a couple of more surprise quality titles.  In other words, it will most likely get sold again after a few months.

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Is that more insulting than Activision dominating with ANOTHER Guitar Hero spinoff, or a shitty game based on a movie license, or the yearly Madden game dominating?

Not really but I would point out that at least they came out yearly.  The same shit for Wii from early 2007 is still on the charts now.  That makes for good fanboy fodder but it is obvious that all it did was make Nintendo lazy.  Since Mario Kart Wii, Nintendo has not really given a shit.  Why would they when a game that is a year and a half old still sells hundreds of thousands a month?  At least with yearly Maddens, you get various tweaks, new features, etc.  With the Wii, Wii Play is the same in September 2009 as it was September 2007.

Nintendo is kind of the same way with the DS.  Outside of a few token efforts here and there, they don't care.  It must be pretty easy down at EAD.

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« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2009, 07:57:51 PM »
You're supposed to buy Nintendo's product at the END of a generation. That way the hardware is 100 bucks and all the great games are less than 20.

Doing anything else is a rip-off. You should have learned your lesson back with the N64.


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« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2009, 09:05:17 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with

...Wii Sports Resort isn't a game.

I see it as a prototype for the next Zelda...
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« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2009, 09:21:36 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with

...Wii Sports Resort isn't a game.
how the fuck is wii sports resort not a game
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« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2009, 09:25:16 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with

...Wii Sports Resort isn't a game.

how the fuck is wii sports resort not a game

...it's on the Wii?  DUH.
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« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2009, 10:00:24 PM »
Dude, don't diss Glover!

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I think I'll end up with less games on the Wii than I had with the N64. :-\

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« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2009, 10:01:25 PM »
Corny is needling people about not having enough friends?

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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2009, 10:07:34 PM »
Still having fun with Wii Sports Resorts. Sorry, bitter boritos who lack friends to play games with

Wii Sports Resort is fun.  I haven't been able to play it much with friends because everyone seems so out of the Wii now.  It's not like they play other video game systems, but even just a year ago they were still all about it.  Now it's a lot of apathy.  Even my cousin who was crazy for it 2 years ago ditched it to invest in PC gaming (smart lad, that one). 

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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2009, 10:10:14 PM »
Corny is needling people about not having enough friends?

:rofl

Get off his dick

I agree with him.  The only time we'd ever fire up Wii Sports is when my roommates and I were back from the gym and just wanted to unwind for a bit.  That or when we were piss drunk.  I mean, nearly falling on the floor drunk.  Wii Sports works great for spontaneous multiplayer.  Something quick and easy to get into, to fuck around, and then shut it off in a half hour.
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Re: Nintendo is really shit this generation
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2009, 12:11:24 AM »
How can anyone say wii has a better library than n64?

Wii has a better library than N64.
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« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2009, 12:12:27 AM »
Wii does have better library than N64. Go back and play N64, it's all trash.
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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2009, 12:29:37 AM »
Wii does have better library than N64. Go back and play N64, it's all trash.

Except Beetle Adventure Racing.

Beetle Adventure Racing :rock
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