Author Topic: Halo 3: OSTD (Read 25772 times)

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #300 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:14:45 PM »

Just got all the audio logs (listened to them as i went). Took a bit over two hours.

I think this game is pretty damn different from typical Halo games. It gives you the old school Halo gameplay in the flashback missions, and the city isn't like anything else. The limitations of the ODST force you to play the game differently than you have in the past. One or two Brutes can fuck you up quickly, a single Brute Shot round can force you into cover, and you really can't depend on your melee anymore.

cool breeze · « **Reply #301 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:55:15 PM »

I still used melee a lot. And in my experience, this game on heroic is a lot easier than Halo 3 on normal. But I tried Legendary in firefight and that was a huge jump from Heroic difficulty.

Also, I don't get why they took out the Battlerifle. It would have been one of the best weapons in the hub area where most of the combat is mid to long range. Instead they give you a kinda shitty silenced smg and alright pistol. I used the carbine most of the time.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #302 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:05:41 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on September 25, 2009, 12:14:45 PM

Just got all the audio logs (listened to them as i went). Took a bit over two hours.

I think this game is pretty damn different from typical Halo games. It gives you the old school Halo gameplay in the flashback missions, and the city isn't like anything else. The limitations of the ODST force you to play the game differently than you have in the past. One or two Brutes can fuck you up quickly, a single Brute Shot round can force you into cover, and you really can't depend on your melee anymore.

Yeah, it's empty.

The only real noticeable difference is that it takes more bullets to bring enemies down and you can sustain damage. In essence, they just made it more difficult.

There are encounters built around this concept, where you have to use things to your tactical advantage and that is a departure from previous Halo titles. But it's also incredibly repetitive.

Also, near the end, they throw that away and give you shields? ... Really?

Firefight is pretty fun, though. I can't get behind the solo campaign, though.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #303 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:17:10 PM »

The vehicle levels are awesome, but it seems too easy to lose health if you get pounded quickly.

Definitely agree with the hub level, it's interesting and new, but it's really barren and everything besides a grunt needs about 8 clips to die.

Bocsius · « **Reply #304 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:20:19 PM »

I'm not a big fan of vehicle levels. It's been one of my biggest gripes with Halo since Halo 2. I thought the limited usage of vehicles in Halo 1 was perfect. Since then, though, there have been long sections of the games that require them, and ODST follows that formula completely. Of the 8 missions, how many of them did you spend the majority of time in a vehicle? 4?

demi · « **Reply #305 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:39:08 PM »

Looking for 2 other people for Firefight

pilonv1 · « **Reply #306 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:39:53 PM »

I like them considering how much ammo it takes to bring down a lot of the enemies. Makes things a lot quicker.

cool breeze · « **Reply #307 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:43:49 PM »

I like sections where vehicles are present, just not required; most of Halo 1 was like that. That said, the best moment of Halo 3 was taking down two scarabs in the VTOL. But I was actually surprised by how much you were in vehicles in ODST.

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Warthog sequence early on was fine, but considering these guys were not supposed to be lower soldiers, I didn't expect you to be flying around in a Banshee for most of a mission. Of course, there is that long stretch at the end too.

The mongoose in the hub world was great, though. I was legitimately happy when I unlocked it and wanted to take care of it. I was also pissed off when a Brute piece of shit destroyed it. Again, it felt like mini-Far Cry 2. It felt like it was your vehicle and not just a random disposable ride.

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and I booted up the Halo 3 multiplayer disk. Going back o that game, it really does seem like the POV has been pulled back or something. I thought controls in ODST were really good but Halo 3 feels twitchy again to me and a bit too close. Still a lot of fun, I just wish ODST had it's own multiplayer besides firefight. I wish firefight had matchmaking too. I want to play but no one on my friends list is playing or in an open game.

Vizzys · « **Reply #308 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:41:05 AM »

anyone up for some firefight right now
friend me, my gt is lovas

demi · « **Reply #309 on:** September 26, 2009, 12:41:41 AM »

Me and Luci from OA need 2 more. We are going for Endure, and Deja Vu and FireFight.

demi · « **Reply #310 on:** September 26, 2009, 04:37:07 AM »

Firefight is the shit. Games take way too long though. Sign up if you want to do another game tomorrow night.

demi · « **Reply #311 on:** September 27, 2009, 12:30:04 AM »

Looking for 2 more for FireFight

duckman2000 · « **Reply #312 on:** September 27, 2009, 12:35:14 AM »

So do you not play as ODSTs in the straight multiplayer mode?

Bocsius · « **Reply #313 on:** September 27, 2009, 12:36:26 AM »

You play as ODSTs during Firefight. Standard multiplayer is all Spartan.

Also, you can't just switch back and forth between modes, either, because standard MP is on a different disk.

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Should have gone with Blu-ray.

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duckman2000 · « **Reply #314 on:** September 27, 2009, 12:45:24 AM »

It's lulz because it's true!

cool breeze · « **Reply #315 on:** September 27, 2009, 01:13:05 AM »

I wish there was ODST multiplayer. Pulled back camera, better feeling controls and Halo 1 style health. And I wish Firefight had matchmaking.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #316 on:** September 27, 2009, 02:45:43 AM »

Firefight is more fun than Horde.

demi · « **Reply #317 on:** September 27, 2009, 03:51:55 AM »

Firefight is awesome. Nobody replies to my posts though. I've been getting 200k with someone else on Normal difficulty. I believe we could do the Heroic achievement easily.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #318 on:** September 27, 2009, 10:51:45 AM »

I feel like Heroic is a huge jump in difficulty from Normal. My group has been getting 300k on Normal with 10+ lives left on a bunch of different maps, but I don't think we've even made it to Set 3 on Heroic. Our fourth player is usually pretty weak though.

bork · « **Reply #319 on:** September 27, 2009, 03:26:10 PM »

What a difference co-op makes! Went from getting my ass handed to me on the first level (Heroic difficulty) to the fifth level, with ease, playing with a friend yesterday. The levels all seem pretty short, too.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #320 on:** September 27, 2009, 04:36:13 PM »

Actually I take it back. We have a decent fourth player and now we're at 174k on heroic with 7 lives left. Halfway through set 2. That achievement shouldn't be too bad. We were playing like shit the first few rounds too cuz the fourth guy just got the game today. edit: 195k

edit: set 3, 11 lives, 282k

Could this be our cheevo

set 4, 12 lives, 453k

Tilt famine mythic

demi · « **Reply #321 on:** September 27, 2009, 04:37:30 PM »

NEED TWO MORE FOR FIREFIGHT TONIGHT LTES DO THIS

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #322 on:** September 27, 2009, 05:55:11 PM »

We did it. Entered set 5 with 6 lives and 670049 points. We screwed up both the first and the last bonus rounds.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=28062613&player=Viscen

demi · « **Reply #323 on:** September 28, 2009, 09:53:07 PM »

Did Endure just now. OMG. One of the better feeling achievements. Made it to last wave with zero lives and only three people (one idling in the corner), but we did it. Now I just need 4 more 200k and this game is done.

http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?gameid=31448270&player=demifish

drew · « **Reply #324 on:** September 28, 2009, 11:03:50 PM »

EVILBORE IRC FIREFIGHT NIGHT is down 2 players

this is an open invitation to join and let me whisper sweet nothings in your ear (piece)

rsvp below pls thx

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #325 on:** September 29, 2009, 01:14:35 AM »

All I need is Deja Vu. We almost had it tonight and then the match lagged out even though no one was separated from the party. So I guess I'll have to try that tomorrow.

I have everything in Halo 3 besides two FFA ones - Overkill and Double Kill with 1 Spartan Laser blast. I doubt I will ever get those.

chronovore · « **Reply #326 on:** September 29, 2009, 06:58:34 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on September 22, 2009, 08:32:30 PM

I took a friend to TRU to get his copy on our lunch break. This dorky cashier gets on the microphone:

"Can I get an associate up front for a halo figurine!"

I lost it and I could tell my friend was a little embarrassed too.

Could have been worse; they could have said "HALO DOLL"...

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #327 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:29:59 PM »

I had the single handedly most epic Halo 3 Team Slayer match of all-time.

It was 5-on-5, and two of my teammates quit before the game even really started. The other two quit like a minute or two in. So it was me against five guys.

And I beat them.

I wish I could've recorded the profanities they were yelling in the lobby afterwards.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #328 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:33:36 PM »

Get the game off Bungie.net, show the buttfuckery to all

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #329 on:** September 29, 2009, 11:43:38 PM »

How long does it take to update stats, it's still showing that my last game was 7 PM?

chronovore · « **Reply #330 on:** September 30, 2009, 03:15:35 AM »

Oh, jeez, I will actually boot Halo 3 to download and watch that.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #331 on:** September 30, 2009, 11:32:13 AM »

Matchmaking games usually go up within 2 or 3 minutes of the match. Firefight leaderboards only seem to update every few hours (but your individual match is available right away still). I don't know if the big boost in players is bogging things down though.

drew · « **Reply #332 on:** September 30, 2009, 01:19:49 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on September 30, 2009, 03:15:35 AM

Oh, jeez, I will actually boot Halo 3 to download and watch that.

they really should have implemented first person view for all the players in a match when watching in the theater

whats the fun in watching everything as a third person cam?

tehjaybo · « **Reply #333 on:** September 30, 2009, 01:44:31 PM »

Firefight tonight, PM if interested. Need dem cheevs.

drew · « **Reply #334 on:** September 30, 2009, 02:21:42 PM »

http://opa-ages.com/forums/topic/33792-the-official-halo-3-odst-thread/page__view__findpost__p__710567

demi is playing firefight with oaers instead of with evilbore bros

i believe two emoticons are appropriate here

twerd · « **Reply #335 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:17:07 AM »

firefight

rest of game $:-\$

pilonv1 · « **Reply #336 on:** October 02, 2009, 01:23:52 AM »

i would play firefight with demi but im in a different time zone

TEEEPO · « **Reply #337 on:** October 02, 2009, 02:47:33 AM »

this game is a drag

duckman2000 · « **Reply #338 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:20:08 PM »

Couldn't resist at $40 shipped. Resale market

Bocsius · « **Reply #339 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:35:47 PM »

$40 is probably about right. If you already had the DLC, $25 would be about right.

Seriously, Microsoft should refund the spacebucks to the saps that bought the DLC and ODST. Ripoff total.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #340 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:38:40 PM »

Seemed like a more reasonable price. Still iffy about it, given that I've never been much into Halo MP, but at worst I should be able to get some of it back.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #341 on:** October 06, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »

I don't see how this isn't worth $60. I paid $60 for Killzone and got to the end in less than 4 hours.

and wtf @ the map complaint. I bought an iPod two years ago and now it's smaller and has a camera! send me a new one apple!

I got 16 and 20 months of play out of the first two map packs for my $10. By the time the third map pack came around earlier this year, it was well known that you would get it for free with ODST if you could just wait. Some of my friends did wait, I chose not too, so I got 6 months of play out of those for my $10.

If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #342 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:18:09 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on October 06, 2009, 12:53:03 PM

I don't see how this isn't worth $60. I paid $60 for Killzone and got to the end in less than 4 hours.

If I cleared the campaign in 4 hours and didn't like the MP, I'd probably feel pretty ripped off too. Two wrongs don't make a right, does it? I don't like Halo MP, never have, so for me $40 is a hell of a lot more reasonable than $60 for a campaign nugget.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #343 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:19:53 PM »

I didn't feel ripped off. It just wasn't my taste. And I did play multiplayer for 10 hours or so.

Killzone 2 objectively had less content at the same price point as ODST. Which style of gameplay you prefer is a separate issue.

In any case I should have quoted Bocsius. I don't get why a campaign longer than KZ2 or CoD and almost as long as Halo 3 is only worth $25 without the maps. CoD4 GOTY edition launched at $60 with no new content but 3 maps that were available for download anyway. And it's still $50 today.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #344 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:25:00 PM »

For the record, I'm baffled by the less than 4 hours to complete the KZ2 campaign. You must have been disturbingly good at it.

Whatever, though. The short campaigns are starting to get on my nerves, no matter the game. COD4 was at the very least perfectly paced, so hopefully this one is too.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #345 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »

If I still had the game I would take a picture. It was 3:48 or something like that. That was with some time spent struggling with the last boss. I think I did it on the middle difficulty, not the hardest. But my 5.5 hour ODST runthrough was with three other players so that should balance out.

drew · « **Reply #346 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:37:16 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:25:00 PM

COD4 was at the very least perfectly paced, so hopefully this one is too.

that is absolutely the last thing this game is

demi · « **Reply #347 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:38:39 PM »

Just need one more firefight to have 1000, but I came home to find my sister had deebo'd my fucking game. I am pissed.

Bocsius · « **Reply #348 on:** October 06, 2009, 01:59:48 PM »

The campaign is only as long as it is because you spend a significant amount of time backtracking over the hub world to get to the next mission. Actual in-level game time is close to 3 hours, and those levels are mediocre at best. With or without the maps, it's not worth $60. If you have the DLC already, it's worth nowhere near close to 60 bucks. And the thing is Bungie never wanted to sell it for $60, so there's no real point in defending the price. I can't compare it to other games in the genre, because I don't like other games in the genre. I like Halo, and this Halo is ho-hum.

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If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.

I think the point was missed. This is less content for more money, and far less if you have the DLC already. I suppose if you never played Halo 3, it's probably spot on! Those 8 people are loving life right now.

drew · « **Reply #349 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:00:06 PM »

Quote from: demi on October 06, 2009, 01:38:39 PM

Just need one more firefight to have 1000, but I came home to find my sister had deebo'd my fucking game. I am pissed.

you have a sister?

themoreyouknow.jpg

ps what does deebo'd mean?

demi · « **Reply #350 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:04:08 PM »

that's my bike

drew · « **Reply #351 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:04:37 PM »

wait

what

FatalT · « **Reply #352 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:36:41 PM »

Quote from: drew on October 06, 2009, 03:04:37 PM

wait

what

You never seen the movie Friday?

drew · « **Reply #353 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:39:15 PM »

tehjaybo · « **Reply #354 on:** October 06, 2009, 03:58:01 PM »

I've never seen Friday and even I knew that.

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It's because I had a black friend once.

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #355 on:** October 08, 2009, 08:53:00 PM »

Just made it to the part where i have to face two hunters and shut it off. pretty average so far.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #356 on:** October 08, 2009, 10:39:29 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on October 06, 2009, 01:59:48 PM

The campaign is only as long as it is because you spend a significant amount of time backtracking over the hub world to get to the next mission. Actual in-level game time is close to 3 hours, and those levels are mediocre at best. With or without the maps, it's not worth $60. If you have the DLC already, it's worth nowhere near close to 60 bucks. And the thing is Bungie never wanted to sell it for $60, so there's no real point in defending the price. I can't compare it to other games in the genre, because I don't like other games in the genre. I like Halo, and this Halo is ho-hum.

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If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.

I think the point was missed. This is less content for more money, and far less if you have the DLC already. I suppose if you never played Halo 3, it's probably spot on! Those 8 people are loving life right now.

Halo 3 - 6 hour campaign with 11 maps
ODST - what you call a 3 hour campaign with 33 maps, plus a beta

CoD4: GOTY edition - $60 for the exact same game with 3 maps that are already DLC. Now $50. no co op, no horde
KZ2: 4-5 hour campaign with like 8-9 maps. no co op, no horde

I did no exploration of the overworld, I just ran from checkpoint to checkpoint. That wasn't time consuming at all. Took a bit over 2 hours to go back and find all the audio logs.

Bocsius · « **Reply #357 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:59:38 AM »

You're not really making any points here.

First of all, the COD4 vs. ODST comparison. Completely invalid. GOTY is a repackaging of the game selling to new users for the game. There is no reason for existing COD4 users to run out and buy it. Conversely, ODST is an expansion on Halo 3. The fact that it includes the maps from the original game plus the maps that are already free plus the additional DLC is of little consequence. The intent is to sell (most of) this crap to people that already own it!

You get a short, forgetful campaign, you get a new multiplayer mode (without matchmaking, which is a complaint for some and would be for me if I cared to play it but since it's an extension of the campaign, I'd rather not), and a bunch of maps that the majority of which you already own.

The value just isn't there unless, as stated before, you never bought Halo 3, in which case the value might actually be a steal. Once again, good job to those 8 unique people that bought ODST and skipped 3.

Anyway, the point is moot. Something like 2.5 million people have bought ODST according to USA Today, so the train's left the station and has made Microsoft a lot of coin.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #358 on:** October 09, 2009, 02:00:52 AM »

The lack of matchmaking in Firefight seems pretty daft.

Bocsius · « **Reply #359 on:** October 09, 2009, 02:06:49 AM »

Have you received your copy yet?

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