Author Topic: FORZA 3 DRIVING GAME OF THE FOREVER CONFIRMED!!! (Read 20001 times)

ferrarimanf355 · « **on:** September 22, 2009, 01:39:30 PM »

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forzamotorsport3/video/6228749

Over 30 Ferraris, including the 250TR and the 458 Italia in the first batch of DLC.

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:44:59 PM »

wow sweet... dlc. why are you jumping for joy at what should be on the disc period?

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:46:27 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 22, 2009, 01:44:59 PM

wow sweet... dlc. why are you jumping for joy at what should be on the disc period?

The 458 Italia was revealed at a point where Turn 10 couldn't get it on the disc without a delay.

Third · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:56:51 PM »

DLC

And the GT5 Ferrari clip makes the Forza 3 one look very amateurish.

archie4208 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:58:01 PM »

GT5 and Forza 3 are both awful. Trackmania 2 is the true racing champ.

Third · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:58:59 PM »

Nah, TM2 is too unrealistic.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2009, 01:59:52 PM »

but DAYTONA

Bebpo · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2009, 02:00:02 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on September 22, 2009, 01:58:01 PM

GT5 and Forza 3 are both awful. Trackmania 2 is the true racing champ.

nah, PGR4

I played about 2 hours of Forza 2 and it was very much Borza. Same for GT5:P; Sims this gen are so dull :\

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2009, 09:18:59 PM »

I'll probably be getting Need for Speed Shift over both Borza and Gran Borismo. Shift will have automatic tuning for those that don't want to mess around with that kinda stuff.

The thing I really hated about GT on the PS2 was that it was too focused on the tuning elements. I don't give a crap about tuning. I just wanna drive.

They called it "The Real Driving Simulator" not the "The Real Tuning Simulator".

Bebpo · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:00:48 PM »

Too much tuning
Too much of a start slowww and repeat tracks for hours to advance curve
Too much BORING EMPTY TRACKS; my main issue with Forza & GT lately. I used to love GT when it was all about crazy city tracks with jumps and drives through fantasy forests or Italian seasides. I want interesting locations to drive around in racing games. This strong focus on ACTUAL RACE TRACKS which I guess appeases real racing fans just means incredibly dull scenery. I don't even like The Ring much in PGR. Also I play racing games to indulge in my love for graphics. Yet I don't car about the graphics on the car. I just want to see amazing tracks. But Forza/GT focus all their polys and effects on the damn cars

Bildi · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:39:23 PM »

I played a fair bit of Forza 1 but found Forza 2 insanely dull. I'm hoping Forza 3 does something to rectify this with some exciting tracks. The graphics looking far, far, far better are good start at least.

drew · « **Reply #11 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:44:22 PM »

announcing dlc before the game is even out?

this is the definition of bullshit

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #12 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:46:55 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2009, 10:00:48 PM

Too much tuning
Too much of a start slowww and repeat tracks for hours to advance curve
Too much BORING EMPTY TRACKS; my main issue with Forza & GT lately. I used to love GT when it was all about crazy city tracks with jumps and drives through fantasy forests or Italian seasides. I want interesting locations to drive around in racing games. This strong focus on ACTUAL RACE TRACKS which I guess appeases real racing fans just means incredibly dull scenery. I don't even like The Ring much in PGR. Also I play racing games to indulge in my love for graphics. Yet I don't car about the graphics on the car. I just want to see amazing tracks. But Forza/GT focus all their polys and effects on the damn cars

FWIW, Forza 3 seems to have paid more attention to track detail than GT5.

cool breeze · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2009, 11:33:02 PM »

Quote from: Third on September 22, 2009, 01:56:51 PM

DLC

And the GT5 Ferrari clip makes the Forza 3 one look very amateurish.

yeah, the GT5 one looks incredible.

The one thing the GT series has over Forza is much better presentation and style. How much that matters when Forza has lead in terms of gameplay for the past two games is negligible.

originalz · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2009, 11:37:39 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 22, 2009, 10:00:48 PM

Too much tuning
Too much of a start slowww and repeat tracks for hours to advance curve
Too much BORING EMPTY TRACKS; my main issue with Forza & GT lately. I used to love GT when it was all about crazy city tracks with jumps and drives through fantasy forests or Italian seasides. I want interesting locations to drive around in racing games. This strong focus on ACTUAL RACE TRACKS which I guess appeases real racing fans just means incredibly dull scenery. I don't even like The Ring much in PGR. Also I play racing games to indulge in my love for graphics. Yet I don't car about the graphics on the car. I just want to see amazing tracks. But Forza/GT focus all their polys and effects on the damn cars

I don't think sim racers are for you. I enjoy a good arcade racer too, but the appeal of sims are the cars themselves. You can take any car and tune it to hell so it fits your driving style perfectly. You get the chance to race awesome supercars, with the appeal of it handling very close to the real life counterpart. The cars look beautiful, the tracks exist just so you have something to drive them on. Real-life tracks give you the full experience, and they're challenging enough anyway, having them replace the scenery with unnecessary fluff and distractions adds nothing to it, you shouldn't even be paying attention to what's going on on the sides of the road.

I can understand why people would dislike sim racers, but complaining that the cars look too beautiful instead of the tracks is kind of ignorant, along with questioning the idea of tuning and mastering a certain track before advancing. That's the whole appeal of the genre, if you want to play something that's easier to get into and looks pretty, play Grid or PGR.

Not to say that there's no reason to not have beautiful racing locales, but Forza 3 isn't slacking too much with that...

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

pilonv1 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 24, 2009, 07:46:27 AM »

I AM GETTING THE DEMO

pilonv1 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:43:44 AM »

this is fuck awesome

Third · « **Reply #17 on:** September 24, 2009, 09:48:34 AM »

Top Gear trolling Forza.

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it’s interesting to compare it with Forza’s tribute. While Polyphony’s is artistic, zooms right in on tiny details like the individual bulbs on the tail lights, Forza’s is all about action and drama, and lacks the subtletly of the Gran Turismo effort. But that’s Forza for you – a good game but an arcade game, where GT5 will be more a simulation.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24

lol

originalz · « **Reply #18 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:24:10 AM »

Bah, GT may have more overall polish, but Forza just plays better. Going back to GT after a Forza session is pretty tough, haha. Forza is definitely a sim, but you can adjust the playing style so that someone who doesn't like sims can get into the game.

cool breeze · « **Reply #19 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:58:15 AM »

yeah, I'm amazed that people would think GT games are more sims than Forza games. Forza games certainly aren't the best if you want a true sim, but Gran Turismo games are about playing the Gran Turismo brand of driving, which happens to be some off world that has freaky physics. Forza games have cars that handle like cars, and it was true for Forza 1 and 2, and I'm gonna play the Forza 3 demo now, but unless they went backwards, I'm sure it will be the same. Only thing GT games really have over Forza is presentation. At least now Forza looks good.

Quote from: mojovonio on September 24, 2009, 10:52:15 AM

Hey, you know whats batter than all these games combined? Walking ad NOT driving cause there's too much fucking traffic.

Infamous, Assassin's Creed, Saboteur >>>>> Forz-ugh and Gran Borismo

cool breeze · « **Reply #20 on:** September 24, 2009, 07:39:53 AM »

ok, Forza 3 is freaking great. Totally buying this.

I was playing GT5p yesterday and it's night and day how much better Forza 3 plays. But GT5p still kinda looks better, especially the cockpit view. The cockpit view in Forza 3 is actually usable opposed to games like PGR or Shift.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #21 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:44:22 AM »

Quote from: Third on September 24, 2009, 09:48:34 AM

Top Gear trolling Forza.

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it’s interesting to compare it with Forza’s tribute. While Polyphony’s is artistic, zooms right in on tiny details like the individual bulbs on the tail lights, Forza’s is all about action and drama, and lacks the subtletly of the Gran Turismo effort. But that’s Forza for you – a good game but an arcade game, where GT5 will be more a simulation.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24

lol

That's as distinguished mentally-challenged as this article: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Road and Track, an actually legitimate racing source, gave the edge to Forza a few years ago:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:58:20 AM »

Playing the demo now.

Pretty awesome. The only problems are the load times are not so hot and the dashboards are surprisingly poor. Day one nonetheless (I CAN ROLL MY CAR, YESSSSSS)

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #23 on:** September 24, 2009, 07:01:23 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 24, 2009, 08:44:22 AM

Quote from: Third on September 24, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
Top Gear trolling Forza.

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it’s interesting to compare it with Forza’s tribute. While Polyphony’s is artistic, zooms right in on tiny details like the individual bulbs on the tail lights, Forza’s is all about action and drama, and lacks the subtletly of the Gran Turismo effort. But that’s Forza for you – a good game but an arcade game, where GT5 will be more a simulation.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24

lol

That's as distinguished mentally-challenged as this article: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Road and Track, an actually legitimate racing source, gave the edge to Forza a few years ago:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Oh god. The comments.

My favourite:

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Obviously, Microsoft is the reason why we have a lot of "immature fanboys" around. I don't think it was like this at all when it was just Sony, SEGA, and Nintendo slugging it out for videogaming supremacy.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #24 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:03:02 AM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on September 24, 2009, 07:01:23 AM

Quote from: Smooth Groove on September 24, 2009, 08:44:22 AM
Quote from: Third on September 24, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
Top Gear trolling Forza.

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it’s interesting to compare it with Forza’s tribute. While Polyphony’s is artistic, zooms right in on tiny details like the individual bulbs on the tail lights, Forza’s is all about action and drama, and lacks the subtletly of the Gran Turismo effort. But that’s Forza for you – a good game but an arcade game, where GT5 will be more a simulation.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24

lol

That's as distinguished mentally-challenged as this article: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Road and Track, an actually legitimate racing source, gave the edge to Forza a few years ago:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/5282.html

Oh god. The comments. My favourite:
Quote
Obviously, Microsoft is the reason why we have a lot of "immature fanboys" around. I don't think it was like this at all when it was just Sony, SEGA, and Nintendo slugging it out for videogaming supremacy.

Yep, it was just peace, love, and games before nasty, old Microsoft came along and ruined EVERYTHING.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #25 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:25:11 AM »

I think the main advantage is that you can play Forza 3, while GT5 is just a figment of Sony's imagination.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:24:57 PM »

Top Gear Test track was announced for GT5, and weren't there a bunch of videos for GT TV?

anyway it's just the top gear website, doubt the guys on the show had anything to do with it.

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on September 24, 2009, 08:25:11 AM

I think the main advantage is that you can play Forza 3, while GT5 is just a figment of Sony's imagination.

This is waiting.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:29:53 PM »

from gaf

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Pull up the leaderboard and start the race from the leaderboard. BAM no ai opponents and you can do as many laps as you want.

unlimted laps with no AI. awesome demo

cool breeze · « **Reply #28 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »

Jeremy reviewed GT4 in the past, and there was a segment where he compared his lap time on laguna seca in real life to the GT4 one; I forgot what the result was. James May pretty much trashes video games when given the chance, so yeah.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:35:19 PM »

Oops, just noticed that I messed up at C&P just now.

This is the actual Road and Track comparison article:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=2458&page_number=1

Bildi · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:35:30 PM »

There's a Forza 3 demo? Cool, I hope I like it.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #31 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:41:02 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on September 24, 2009, 08:30:00 PM

Jeremy reviewed GT4 in the past, and there was a segment where he compared his lap time on laguna seca in real life to the GT4 one; I forgot what the result was. James May pretty much trashes video games when given the chance, so yeah.

I think his lap time was much higher since you could do things in the game that you couldn't do in real life.

originalz · « **Reply #32 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:44:23 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on September 24, 2009, 08:03:02 AM

Yep, it was just peace, love, and games before nasty, old Microsoft came along and ruined EVERYTHING.

Hahahaha, people these days have no idea how nasty the console wars used to be! Nowadays, it's all so civil, they'll make slight references to things that they do better than the competition, how boring! Back in the day, it was the norm to imply that the fans of the competing system were braindead idiots!

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Bildi · « **Reply #33 on:** September 24, 2009, 09:14:05 PM »

Jeremy Clarkson is a dpad tapper rendering any Top Gear opinion on the games irrelevant.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #34 on:** September 24, 2009, 10:54:01 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on September 24, 2009, 08:41:02 PM

Quote from: swaggaz on September 24, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
Jeremy reviewed GT4 in the past, and there was a segment where he compared his lap time on laguna seca in real life to the GT4 one; I forgot what the result was. James May pretty much trashes video games when given the chance, so yeah.
I think his lap time was much higher since you could do things in the game that you couldn't do in real life.

His game lap was like 1:40 and his real world time was about 2:00. He says that the reason is that in reality, you feel a bunch of lateral, negative, and positive G's and you pussy out and brake too soon and everything. He said that the time wasn't impossible if you were a professional race driver with no fear.

The point of that segment was I guess more about how racing sims feel versus how accurate they control.

BTW, how did polyphony even get the top gear test track? Were they the first to think to just ask BBC for it or did they actually pay for exclusivity?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #35 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:06:36 AM »

Did anyone try the demo? I can't believe MS is still time locking their demos.

There's no way I'm paying them $40 just to download a demo.

MCD · « **Reply #36 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:08:10 AM »

you pay $1000 annually for your pc.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:27:29 AM »

lol who pays full price for live? losers do thats who

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #38 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:32:25 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on September 25, 2009, 12:27:29 AM

lol who pays full price for live? losers do thats who

Sorry can't reply, too busy playing the Forza 3 demo

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #39 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:40:07 AM »

Quote from: MCD on September 25, 2009, 12:08:10 AM

you pay $1000 annually for your pc.

That gets me more than free demos and voice-chat though.

Besides, PC upgradilitis is not an addiction that can be easily quit.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 25, 2009, 12:40:43 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on September 25, 2009, 12:32:25 AM

Quote from: pilonv1 on September 25, 2009, 12:27:29 AM
lol who pays full price for live? losers do thats who

Sorry can't reply, too busy playing the Forza 3 demo

i would be but it's 1:45pm and I'm at work.

will be doing ENDLESS LAPS tonight in the California

MCD · « **Reply #41 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:01:26 AM »

SMOOTH U MUST SUPPORT THE XFAG CLAN NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT

drew · « **Reply #42 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:32:23 AM »

is it just me or is the camera farther back?

i think its just me.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #43 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:34:57 AM »

Quote from: MCD on September 25, 2009, 01:01:26 AM

SMOOTH U MUST SUPPORT THE XFAG CLAN NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT

WTF do you think I am? A gaffoty gaffer?

SMH @ spending money just to show loyalty to a big corporation.

MCD · « **Reply #44 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:36:52 AM »

disgusting.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #45 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:44:09 AM »

It is pretty disgusting how little MS has appreciated my efforts.

I don't know how much Duckman gets paid but at the least, he's constantly getting highly desired demos and betas.

Bebpo · « **Reply #46 on:** September 25, 2009, 01:58:38 AM »

It looks nicer than GT5 (and cleaner) and they've made it more accessible to non-simmies, but is that the only track in the demo? It's ridiculously short and more of a cocktease than a real track.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #47 on:** September 25, 2009, 02:56:33 AM »

http://www.destructoid.com/tgs-09-forza-motorsport-3-vs-gran-turismo-5-149770.phtml

Visuals:
Winner: Forza Motorsport 3
While both games look great on the track, Forza's demo featured a polish that Gran Turismo 5's lacked.

Control:
Winner: Forza Motorsport 3
Solely judging from the two on-floor demos, both of which used adjustable racing seats and steering wheel rigs, Forza 3's control won the race.

Game play:
Winner: Forza Motorsport 3

Forza's gameplay was more enjoyable and approachable. It may be a bit more simple than that of GT5, but it still provides ample challenge for white knuckle racing.

Overall:
I'm a big Gran Turismo fan, so it was a bit of a surprise to me that the Forza Motorsport 3 demo did more for me.

Interesting comparison from the same site that railed against Sony fanboys. Teh biased?

Kinda surprised to see Forza win in the control area since it looks like the Forza setups were just using the ol' crappy official 360 wheels. I didn't see the GT setups but I"d be really surprised if they were using anything other than top-end Logitech wheels.

MCD · « **Reply #48 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:02:44 AM »

I'm just leaving the demo on to listen to the menu music while drinking cappuccino.

slick.

cool breeze · « **Reply #49 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:03:39 AM »

Just from my own experience, Forza 3 trounces GT5(p) in all of those except visuals. GT5(p...including the p because it's hard to imagine that GT5 will be a step back) still looks more realistic than Forza 3, but Forza 3 is actually a good looking game now, so whatever.

Bebpo · « **Reply #50 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:34:04 AM »

Are there more tracks in the demo though? It's hard to judge the graphics with such a little track beyond "hey it has a nice skybox". The IQ is awesome, but I want more tracks with more geometry and interesting layouts. The first GT5p demo in the mountains was a much more interesting track to drive even if the IQ was shit.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:57:25 AM »

If you go to leaderboard you can pick the track and race as many laps as you want with no AI. thats as close you will get, otherwise wait for the final game

Bildi · « **Reply #52 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:06:19 AM »

I just spent about half an hour with the demo.

Forza 1 = pretty good
Forza 2 = dull, lifeless and boring
Forza 3 =

What a turnaround.

Third · « **Reply #53 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:07:34 AM »

PLayed the game. Game doesn't look better than Forza 3.

Can't wait for GT5.

cool breeze · « **Reply #54 on:** October 09, 2009, 12:46:38 AM »

Judging from reviews and impressions, this does sound like the best console "sim" racer ever.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #55 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:17:09 AM »

How do you play with two discs? Serious question

pilonv1 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:18:42 AM »

same way you did it with Gran Turismo 2

cool breeze · « **Reply #57 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:22:03 AM »

you can play the game using the first disk only. Second disk contains 100 more cars and 3 more tracks. If you have a hard drive, there is an in-game option in disk 1 that lets you install disk 2 to the 360. A better comparison would be Rock Band content working in Rock Band 2.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #58 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:32:38 AM »

So if someone wants to drive one car and the other person another, if both cars are on seperate discs you're screwed?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #59 on:** October 09, 2009, 01:51:46 AM »

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/10/03/forza-3s-second-disk-examined/

I guess it's not too big of an issue if you can pick and choose. Altogether, it's about 2 GB of content on disk 2.

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Author Topic: FORZA 3 DRIVING GAME OF THE FOREVER CONFIRMED!!! (Read 20001 times)