Battlefield Bad Company 2

[GilloD]

Korean games tend to be massive shutouts that make me thing everyone is just gaming the system. It's a slaughter everytime I play- We either win in a total victory, or we get fucked in about 4 minutes. I usually swap to thje winning team and enjoy the streak, haha

[Stoney Mason]

Is it possible to talk to people who aren't in your squad?  Can you tell your whole team to stop sucking and defend the flag?

There is only squad chat. (Or maybe party chat depending on how big your party is). You can use the back button to issue commands on objectives or to ask for ammo or a lift from vehicles or such but practically no one pays attention to that stuff unless you are playing with people you know.

[Beezy]

Eh, I don't do that. I don't usually mind being on losing teams either, but we were playing Rush and literally the entire team was running away from the two M-Com stations we were supposed to defend. I sat and watch people sniping from cover as the enemy was setting charges.

sounds like MW2

[GilloD]

Is it possible to talk to people who aren't in your squad?  Can you tell your whole team to stop sucking and defend the flag?

There is only squad chat. (Or maybe party chat depending on how big your party is). You can use the back button to issue commands on objectives or to ask for ammo or a lift from vehicles or such but practically no one pays attention to that stuff unless you are playing with people you know.

Whaaa? Maybe on console. On PC it's Vocie only for squad but you can team and everyone chat, too

[GilloD]

I can't tolerate being on a bad team in a non death match context. To see people playing dumb and getting our team slaughtered sends me right to the quit option. I don't mind losing a relatively close game especially if we are playing the "right" way but if people are just playing incredibly stupid, I'm outta there.

edit: And just to clarify I don't want to come off like I'm a god. I'm a completely average to slightly below average player skill wise. But I know how to play the game conceptually at least fairly decently. It's painful when you play with people who don't really understand the concepts of the game. I can tolerate poor skill. I can't tolerate people ignoring vehicles, ignoring bases, all day sniping, etc. Those are the things that drive me to bounce from game to game until I find a decent squad.

Agreed. I cant believe what I see people doing sometimes. I can understand not being into advanced tactics like squad play and whatever, but RUNNING AWAY from the BING BLINKING objective? That's. 101.

[GilloD]

I keep having that issues where I drop to like .25 fps. I played for 40 minutes and had it happen 6 times.

[The Fake Shemp]

Whaaa? Maybe on console. On PC it's Vocie only for squad but you can team and everyone chat, too

On consoles, if you're in a squad, then you can only talk to those in your squad. If you're not in a squad, you can talk to anyone else not in a squad. I would like to get six to eight people in a room and try two squads at one point. That'd be beast.

[AdmiralViscen]

We got a group of 6 one time, it was pretty awesome.

[fistfulofmetal]

recon is pretty boss for the motion mine. throwing into a contested location and raking up the motion mine assists is rad

[drew]

does this game account for cold bore versus regular sniper shots?

[brawndolicious]

I doubt you'd ever shoot anything far enough to notice anyways.  Unless they exaggerate the effect like they did for bullet drop but what exactly does firing a cold barrel do vs a recently fired one?

[Stoney Mason]

Hadn't played in about a week so I'm playing tonight.

It still baffles my mind that I have trouble getting into games... 

"Connection to the Game Server has been lost. Please check your network connection and try again."

[brawndolicious]

Do you ever get internet problems with other games?  I think I stopped having any problems like a week or two ago.

[AdmiralViscen]

I play in a trio and we have problems with this game and no other. We spent 45 minutes tonight trying to play a coherent match and just said fuck it.

[drew]

i thought that was common sense and i thought itd be cool if the game had that in it

excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me

[Stoney Mason]

Anyone playing?  I'm getting sick of randoms.  I just had to leave a conquest game where literally 10 people were all waiting for the attack chopper to spawn instead of capturing points. 

Had a pretty funny game today where we took all their bases and then raped them at their spawn. It was brutal.

[Stoney Mason]

Long haired asshole should have been playing instead of waiting. 

I don't mind one dude waiting. It's when half your team is waiting and the other half is sniping.

I can't play tonight but we should try to get a bore squad going tomorrow or the next few days. I haven't played with anyone on here since the beta. When the DLC for MW 2 comes out next week I'm going to switch out for the next month and then play that  (and probably alternate back and forth on a month by month basis) so I'd like to get a few bore games going before that happens.

I'd be down to play anytime tommorrow as I'm just going to be chilling.

[originalz]

Had such an amazing match earlier.  Were doing rush on the islands as attackers, doing pretty decently, down to the last part of the map and we destroy one of the objectives without too much difficulty.  They decide to go into super-defensive mode or something and kept taking us out, anytime we planted something our team would be wiped out and the charge would be disarmed.  We're down to like a couple of tickets left, and decide to go all or nothing.  Rush off of the fence, I launch a tube at a sniper's next and take him out, we blow the shit out of everything in the area and plant the charge.  Run back, get pinned by fire but attack enough to kill the people on us.  We only had 1 life left before it was over, so we couldn't afford to get killed at all.  Somehow managed to hold an enemy squad at bay while staying alive just long enough before we retreat with enough time for the charge to go off.  Managed to win it somehow.

Times like that made me wish the game switched to global chat after the match was over.  The other team must have been pissed as hell!  I was just laughing my ass off.

[Stoney Mason]

About to hop on and play some BC 2 in a little bit at 3:30 EST in case anyone is interested in playing.

[Stoney Mason]

Sweet.


Me and The Business had some good games. I'll be on later in the evening again (probably about 9 PM EST) if anybody wants to squad up then.

[Stoney Mason]

Played a bunch of games with Flame of Callandor. He said if anybody plays BC2 on here just add his GamerTag: JohGalt


Man when you go on win Streaks on this game you go on win streaks. You literally have to play with a squad of people if you want to win in this game.

My personal statistics aren't so hot but my win loss is not too shabby.

Wins: 134
Losses: 58
Win/Loss Ratio: 2.31

[The Sceneman]

seems like everyone in the world is playing this game, so Im'a pick it up shortly. Never played a Battlefield game, is it n00b friendly? I expect to get pwned to start with but how long does it take to pick up the flow of the game?

[Stoney Mason]

seems like everyone in the world is playing this game, so Im'a pick it up shortly. Never played a Battlefield game, is it n00b friendly? I expect to get pwned to start with but how long does it take to pick up the flow of the game?

It's not exactly hard but its not exactly noob friendly either because of the squad system. I guarantee if you try to learn the game with randoms you will have a horrible time and hate it. Just play with the people on here or GAF to learn the ropes and it shouldn't be too bad. There was some little video that someone posted that is marginally helpful.

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[The Sceneman]

awesome, yeah I got a couple of RL friends who are picking it up soon so I'll be playing with them, but playing with EBers is always sweet 

[fistfulofmetal]

ugh. got to rank 24. now i see i have to get Sixty-Five Thousand Points until rank 25 :\

[Stoney Mason]

Also don't forgot to download the two map variations for BC 2 tomorrow.

Arica Harbor Conquest Mode - US Command launches a break through action directly at the Russian base. Collateral damage is of no consequence. Capture and secure tactical positions in Conquest Mode across the vast Arica Harbor map.

Laguna Presa Rush Mode - The valley and surrounding mountains possess a strategic value in the battle for South America, and an infantry assault supported by light armor vehicles is likely by both armies as US forces defend the nearby Dam.

They are free as long as you have the VIP code.

[fistfulofmetal]

what about steam users. i never got a vip code

[Stoney Mason]

what about steam users. i never got a vip code

Is there even a place to enter a VIP code at on the PC version? If not then I would think you would be fine.

[drew]

why are the multi games so long, i can barely bring myself to play an entire game of tdm, i wont even touch rush

[The Fake Shemp]

Disposable White Guy and I were in an empty server, so we lined up four tanks in a row and jumped them with ATVs. It was awesome, I wish we could have recorded it.

[Stoney Mason]

why are the multi games so long, i can barely bring myself to play an entire game of tdm, i wont even touch rush

People like the longer length of a game and the maps are bigger. That's part of the battlefield experience. It takes a longer time to win so a better team can establish superiority over a weaker team.

Conquest seems like a perfect length imo.

I admit Rush can drag on which is why I tend not to play it. I haven't played squad rush but that is supposed to be a faster version of rush.

[Stoney Mason]

lulz. I booted up Bad Company 2 this morning to download the "map pack" and it said I already had it. So it was something that shipped with the game and got unlocked at a later date. 

Man companies nowadays are hilarious with their gimmicks.

[The Fake Shemp]

That's because there aren't any new maps, they just added one Rush map to Conquest and vice versa.

[Stoney Mason]

That's because there aren't any new maps, they just added one Rush map to Conquest and vice versa.

Well that's what I mean. It's on the disc. Its nothing that you even download. It was always there. They just locked them up and unlocked them at a later date. It's like shipping a game with 8 maps on disc and only giving you 6 but then unlocking the rest at a later date. It's not really a "map pack". Its just giving you what you already paid for.

[The Fake Shemp]

I'd be upset if they were locked maps, but they weren't locked. They were just added into different gameplay modes, thus making Rush and Conquest a little bit fresh. That'd be like being upset that IW added Rust to a different gameplay mode - like Ground War or something.

[Stoney Mason]

I'd be upset if they were locked maps, but they weren't locked. They were just added into different gameplay modes, thus making Rush and Conquest a little bit fresh. That'd be like being upset that IW added Rust to a different gameplay mode - like Ground War or something.

I'm not upset or anything. There is nothing to get upset about. It's just sort of a marketing gimmick which is why I found it funny. I was more noting the difference. When they originally said "map pack" I thought well okay these are new maps. And then I found out later they would be variations on the old maps but I still figured you would have to download them since there was probably extensive geometry changes. But they were on the disc all along (at least on the console versions).

I'm more noting the difference betweeen a "map pack" and just unlocking something on the disc you already bought. They used the term "map pack" as specifically a part of their marketing. Nothing wrong with it. Its just sort of a stretch of the term.

[Stoney Mason]

I got my ass kicked on that new Conquest variation. It's a really different sort of feel for that map. I never play Rush so it was completely new to me since I hadn't played it there. And I think it doesn't have any vehicles which almost makes it unusual. Its really sniper heavy even though its an urban environment. I like it, but it will take some time getting use to it for me at least. 

[drew]

[G The Resurrected]

Is there any word on the Dr Pepper DLC?  I went to the grocery store looking for special marked packages and didn't see any. 

Still delayed, and Dr Pepper has already ended production of the bottles that contained the codes. So whats out there is out there. Try Walmart and Target they might still have codes left. You'll need 5 codes from what I understand.

[ManaByte]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=241306

"We don't ever want to charge for our maps and insisted to EA that this attitude was crucial when it came to keeping our community happy and playing together," DICE senior producer Patrick Bach told Xbox World 360 magazine.

Bach commented that DICE had "generous" amounts of DLC planned for Battlefield: Bad Company 2's future.

He added: "We're owned by EA but we're still very much DICE."

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Wonder if a lot of the "generous DLC" is already on the disc, like this last "map pack".

[Disposable White Guy]

Anybody else having issues staying connected since the release of the new map pack?  It takes me considerably longer to connect to a game, and when I get into the new maps, I get dropped halfway through which is annoying when I've unlocked something.  I'd chalk it up to a weak connection, but it consistently happens on the new map in Rush during the Last Stand event and the new Conquest map when either team has a low number of tickets.

[G The Resurrected]

ON 360 my girl and I were having a lot of troubles with connecting. Never had issues before the new map pack.

[Stoney Mason]

I haven't had any problems getting connected in the last few days but I'll still get occasionally dropped from games. I just think their online stuff is a bit dodgy and that manifests itself in different ways.   

[Kestastrophe]

I still have unplayable lag frequently in the evenings  :'(. The worst is when you stop pushing the left analog stick and your character keeps moving for a solid second or two after. Unplayable

I have a feeling its their Pentium II servers 

[brawndolicious]

I had no problems between a coupe weeks after launch and before this map pack but now I have problems again   It's the normal lop-sided teams thing, occasional trouble connecting, and now (worse of all) it won't count on my stats whenever I kill someone with the M1 Thompson for medals and shit.  My OCD is unpleased.

[Stoney Mason]

Just a heads up for anybody who was in the same situation I was. Basically ea.com accounts suck. So even though I own Battlefield 2, 1943, Battlefield Heroes, and Bad Company 1, none of that was registering under Veteran Status and I couldn't get the weapon that was owed to me. The M1 Garand.

So I found this support line link

support.ea.com/chat

and they were able to help me. Not all of the above was able to register properly but I got enough of it to register with their help to at least unlock the weapon and I was able to switch my gamertag to a different ea.com account which is something you can't do without their help.

[Stoney Mason]

Is the Garand even worth it?

Once I unlocked it I just played around with it for a little bit. Basically its more accurate than the G3 but does less damage and has a lower rate of fire. And it's not a full automatic. So for most people probably not. I actually kind of like it though and the iron sight is fairly easy for me to use.

It usually takes around 3 center mass impacts to kill enemy troops. The M1 is a good weapon in terms of power and accuracy but is lacking in rate of fire due to its semi-automatic operation, and lacks any attachable gunsights. Its smallish 8-round clip is also a liability in a target-rich environment, and necessitates a viable sidearm. The Garand is much more effective in Hardcore Mode, as it is usually takes one or two shots to kill a target, greatly increasing it much better economy of fire than in Hardcore. It is recommended to be used as mainly either a novelty weapon or a medium to long range battle rifle due to its high power and long range. The M14 EBR is generaly recommended over the Garand considering they both have identical stats (contrary to ingame menus) but the M14 sports a slightly larger 10 round magazine over the 8 round of the Garand; However, the Garand boasts superior iron sights, making aiming considerably easier.

http://battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/M1_Garand

[Kestastrophe]

They fucking ruined this game. On top of the horrendous lag that I've had since the game launched, the last two days I haven't been able to find a game with more than 8 people in it total. As others have complained, the team's have been uneven, sometimes even 5 on 2, etc. Its unbelievable that they haven't fixed it yet 

[brawndolicious]

TBF, it's probably only a couple people who made whatever the decisions that caused the server gayness. heinous gayness.

[fistfulofmetal]

i think i'm only a few more knife kills away from the knife platinum star!

[naff]

So the onlines bein touchy lately? That's def not good  I want to pick this game up to play with a couple friends one of whom pretty much only plays modern warfare, which bores me but Battlefield sounds pretty cool and he's keen. There's still good numbers of people playing though right? So they'll patch any problems up pretty snappy.

[The Fake Shemp]

Battlefield always has a good amount of people playing. Hell, I still see people playing the original Bad Company. Its community doesn't overlap completely with Modern Warfare, so you never have a problem playing with folks.

I haven't had any issues as of late, but I know Disposable White Guy has had some. Shrug.

[huckleberry]

*edit*

I am an idot.

[Stoney Mason]

The lag thing is weird. Sometimes its great. Sometimes its really bad. Obviously its a weird situation since they are using dedicated servers and the whole point of that decision was to improve the lag situation but its very hit or miss on that front.

The team balance thing getting out of whack I've noticed is worse, the later I play I night. For some reason when the community numbers are lower the problem seems to get worse as people won't be brought into the games I'm playing and if its unbalanced it will stay that way. If I play during the really busy part of the day that specific problem doesn't show up but then the lag problem will.

[huckleberry]

The balance thing really sucks sometimes....only sometimes though.  I have a horrible k/d ratio due to sucking so bad with the recon and medic classes and it doesn't help to join a game with a bunch of douche snipers who just sit back and try to pad stats instead of actually going for objectives.  I really like this game though.

[fistfulofmetal]

shoving a knife into a dudes back and seeing the Platinum star pop up is crazy satisfying. But now I don't any more stars for it

[Disposable White Guy]

I've narrowed down my problems to when I'm looking for a squad.  Apparently more than a handful of people are having the same issue, but there's no official word on this being the problem or a fix for it.

[Kestastrophe]

Good to know. I was defaulting to join a squad before, but I will definitely watch that when I am having latency problems.

[fistfulofmetal]

had a few disgusting rounds just now in White Pass


first obligatory c4 kill. threw two and ran way.


first knife kill of the game. many followed


been using the revolver recently. it's pretty beast


after gunning down someone I saw this guy run up. knifed him moments after he killed my teammate. luckily a medic spawned on me and revived the dude


a building next to B where people like to camp and spam m203's. ran in and knifed this guy and his sniper friend who was "covering" him


this one is funny. i ran in a building at C and knifed the two snipers camping. then i threw a motion mine and saw a dude running in the front door. i jumped out of the window and ran back in. i was able to knife the enemy medic right before he was able to revive one of the snipers. 


the end result. add a butt load of dogtags to my collection.