Author Topic: JRPGs on the 360 (Read 5812 times)

chronovore · « **on:** September 25, 2009, 07:20:54 AM »

My brother-in-law is Japanese, and has a 360. I want to encourage him to enjoy it, but he has made the grave error of buying Last Remnant, which has robbed him of his will to power on the device. I want to buy him a game, but a quick glance at metacritic is not inspiring. Is there a good JRPG available, or is it all crap?

demi · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2009, 07:26:48 AM »

WTF is grave error about TLR? It's the best one on the system. In fact they're all good except Eternal Sonata.

edit: Woo almost caught myself. Except Eternal Sonata -AND- Star Ocean 4

MCD · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2009, 07:32:13 AM »

Is he a story guy or gameplay?

Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia have both and LO is exclusive, might wanna grab that.

MCD · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2009, 07:35:00 AM »

End of Eternity is coming out soon in Japan and it looks cool but then it's by Tri-shit.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2009, 07:48:16 AM »

I highly recommend Lost Odyssey. Probably the best all round jrpg on 360. Good balance of old school battle system and deep story

Bildi · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:09:01 AM »

Yeah, I really enjoyed Lost Odyssey. Eternal Sonata was OK for cheap if you just want 20-30 hours at most. I just ordered TLR.

Third · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:16:22 AM »

Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey are the best X360 jrpg's. The rest is pretty underhwelming.

Mistwalker should kill off Blue Dragon and make a new LO game.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:09:07 AM »

Lost Odyssey is good but loses steam, and it has those annoying kids.

Tales of Vesperia is pretty solid all the way throughout. Although it does have an annoying kid... not as bad as LO, tho. Why do jrpgs have to have annoying fucking kids? Ugh, jrpgs always have the dumbest fucking cliches.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:15:18 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 10:09:07 AM

Lost Odyssey is good but loses steam, and it has those annoying kids.

Tales of Vesperia is pretty solid all the way throughout. Although it does have an annoying kid... not as bad as LO, tho. Why do jrpgs have to have annoying fucking kids? Ugh, jrpgs always have the dumbest fucking cliches.

I always hate the kid characters too.

Bildi · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:18:35 AM »

'cept Cooke. Cause she's the tops.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:22:05 AM »

Quote from: Bildi on September 25, 2009, 10:18:35 AM

'cept Cooke. Cause she's the tops.

really no exceptions. The adults in the party are too self-absorbed, so they never slap the kid and tell them to shut up.

Bildi · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:27:28 AM »

I'd take a 1000 blubbering Cooke's over just one Tidus anyday.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:39:02 AM »

Now that I think about it, the last jrpg that I had like no complaints about and actually liked the whole cast of characters was probably Tales of the Abyss. Jerk Luke ruled.

SantaC · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2009, 10:59:35 AM »

Quote from: MCD on September 25, 2009, 07:32:13 AM

Is he a story guy or gameplay?

Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia have both and LO is exclusive, might wanna grab that.

only get ToV. LO is garbage beyond garbage.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2009, 11:07:27 AM »

Quote from: SantaC on September 25, 2009, 10:59:35 AM

Quote from: MCD on September 25, 2009, 07:32:13 AM
Is he a story guy or gameplay?

Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia have both and LO is exclusive, might wanna grab that.

only get ToV. LO is garbage beyond garbage.

Hey, isn't there a batman thread for you to troll or something?

Kosma- Blue Dragon is fun but pretty simplistic. It's very pretty to look at, though.

treythemovie · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:01:12 PM »

Tales of Vesperia is the best on the 360 so far, despite sharing the same metacritic score with the worst (Eternal Sonata).

Speaking of which, I wonder when the next 360 JRPG will be announced. Or perhaps I should say if the next 360 JRPG will be announced. I have this rational fear that Microsoft will stop pushing for JRPGs and so Japanese publishers will just stop porting/publishing them on the 360. That would suck not only because the western JRPG fanbase has gravitated to the 360 but also because it would likely mean even less HD RPGs then the slim pickings we already are getting.

Hell, are there even any 360 JRPGs upcoming other than FFXIII, tri-ace's new game and, ugh, Magna Carta

tiesto · « **Reply #16 on:** September 25, 2009, 03:48:16 PM »

Yeah, it looks like your best hope for RPGs is for them to go multiplat... I don't really see any exclusives coming to the 360 any time soon, and I think MS has given up on Japan - no new Mistwalker or RPG announcements at TGS, nothing new announced in the genre since SO4. 360 might see some Idea Factory shovelware on occasion tho

Tales of Vesperia's PS3 sales are the final nail in the 360 RPG coffin.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:26:29 PM »

There's really not ANY new jrpgs of note coming out anytime soon other than FFXIII, unless I'm missing something...

drew · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:30:00 PM »

tell him to give away his 360 to an american that deserves it

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:31:50 PM »

Well, I guess I forgot about the DQ games coming out, but that's what they get for putting them on crappy non-consoles.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #20 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 05:26:29 PM

There's really not ANY new jrpgs of note coming out anytime soon other than FFXIII, unless I'm missing something...

End of Eternity.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #21 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:38:19 PM »

Make him play Fallout 3 like a real man.

drew · « **Reply #22 on:** September 25, 2009, 05:39:12 PM »

also make him register as an american citizen, also like a real man

The Sceneman · « **Reply #23 on:** September 25, 2009, 06:37:33 PM »

hey, groos back. 'sup

The Sceneman · « **Reply #24 on:** September 25, 2009, 06:39:10 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 05:26:29 PM

There's really not ANY new jrpgs of note coming out anytime soon other than FFXIII, unless I'm missing something...

theres a few coming out for psp...

Bebpo · « **Reply #25 on:** September 25, 2009, 06:48:06 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 05:26:29 PM

There's really not ANY new jrpgs of note coming out anytime soon other than FFXIII, unless I'm missing something...

End of Eternity/Resonance of Fates
If you want to count Wii there's Tales of Graces

that's about it though.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #26 on:** September 25, 2009, 07:19:04 PM »

Oh yeah, I remember thinking that Resonance of Fate looked like it had potential. But it's not coming out till late next year.

SantaC · « **Reply #27 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:38:48 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 11:07:27 AM

Quote from: SantaC on September 25, 2009, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: MCD on September 25, 2009, 07:32:13 AM
Is he a story guy or gameplay?

Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia have both and LO is exclusive, might wanna grab that.

only get ToV. LO is garbage beyond garbage.

Hey, isn't there a batman thread for you to troll or something?

Kosma- Blue Dragon is fun but pretty simplistic. It's very pretty to look at, though.

but LO is really bad

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** September 25, 2009, 09:45:37 PM »

What the FUCK would you know what's bad? You hate Batman, you hate LO, what DO you like you swedish piece of shit?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #29 on:** September 26, 2009, 01:14:42 AM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 07:19:04 PM

Oh yeah, I remember thinking that Resonance of Fate looked like it had potential. But it's not coming out till late next year.

What? The new trailer from TGS says 2009 for Japan.

treythemovie · « **Reply #30 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:29:47 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on September 26, 2009, 01:14:42 AM

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 25, 2009, 07:19:04 PM
Oh yeah, I remember thinking that Resonance of Fate looked like it had potential. But it's not coming out till late next year.

What? The new trailer from TGS says 2009 for Japan.

Yeah it seems they are claiming a late 2009 for Japan. Still that doesn't change the fact that we're not getting it til late 2010

$:-\$

chronovore · « **Reply #31 on:** September 26, 2009, 03:48:49 AM »

Looks like I'll try LO or Vesperia for him, and see how he reacts. I'm at a loss, because I'm not even sure what he likes. He played a lot of Metal Gear on PS2 and PSP, and as for RPGs I think I've seen him enjoy DQ like most Japanese males, and Final Fantasy Tactics which is basically our only point of gaming interest overlap. I loved FF:T on PS1. Other than that, like a lot of people here he gets motion sickness almost immediately when playing an FPS, or even a third-person shooter like Gears.

SantaC · « **Reply #32 on:** September 27, 2009, 09:12:26 PM »

Quote from: demi on September 25, 2009, 09:45:37 PM

What the FUCK would you know what's bad? You hate Batman, you hate LO, what DO you like you swedish piece of shit?

lol are you mad Nick Frost?

chronovore · « **Reply #33 on:** September 28, 2009, 05:55:12 AM »

Quote from: demi on September 25, 2009, 07:26:48 AM

WTF is grave error about TLR? It's the best one on the system. In fact they're all good except Eternal Sonata.

edit: Woo almost caught myself. Except Eternal Sonata -AND- Star Ocean 4

Hey, for some reason I didn't catch this question on first read. HE considers it a chore to play and is uninspired. Personally JRPGs aren't my thing, so I've got no opinion on it one way or the other.

chronovore · « **Reply #34 on:** September 28, 2009, 06:57:50 AM »

Dude, your avatar is perfect for that statement.

What I actually need is a JRPG that follows the tropes of the genre but doesn't suck. I don't even know what the positive aspects are, but I knew there are people here who would, so...

demi · « **Reply #35 on:** September 28, 2009, 07:52:25 AM »

Mangina Carta 2 is out next month here. Maybe he likes horse nipples

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #36 on:** September 28, 2009, 03:43:21 PM »

How bad is the loading on LO? I heard it was pretty heavy. I'm in a JRPG mood for the first time in years, but I can't tolerate JRPGs that take like 15 seconds to load every battle.

treythemovie · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:06:03 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on September 28, 2009, 06:57:50 AM

Dude, your avatar is perfect for that statement.

What I actually need is a JRPG that follows the tropes of the genre but doesn't suck. I don't even know what the positive aspects are, but I knew there are people here who would, so...

Blue Dragon and Tales of Vesperia probably fit that description the closest of all the 360 JRPGs. My recomendation would be Vesperia.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #38 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:10:44 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on September 28, 2009, 03:43:21 PM

How bad is the loading on LO? I heard it was pretty heavy. I'm in a JRPG mood for the first time in years, but I can't tolerate JRPGs that take like 15 seconds to load every battle.

If it's installed to your hd, the loading is barely noticeable. I don't know why people wouldn't install games to the hd, to be honest.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #39 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:14:04 PM »

Excellent. Thanks.

tiesto · « **Reply #40 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:22:05 PM »

I played through LO before disc-installation was made available $:-\$

treythemovie · « **Reply #41 on:** September 28, 2009, 04:38:31 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on September 28, 2009, 04:10:44 PM

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on September 28, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
How bad is the loading on LO? I heard it was pretty heavy. I'm in a JRPG mood for the first time in years, but I can't tolerate JRPGs that take like 15 seconds to load every battle.

If it's installed to your hd, the loading is barely noticeable. I don't know why people wouldn't install games to the hd, to be honest.

Well to be fair there are some games that get fucked up when you install them (I dont' believe Last Remnant is one of them though). I wish there was a list somewhere that had all the various HD install problems with games.

chronovore · « **Reply #42 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:09:06 AM »

Good grief, I almost impulse-ordered The Last Remnant at play-asia because it's Happy Meal-priced at 878 yen right now. I thought to check this thread to jog my memory if it was one of the good ones, only to see my own damned post about it being the one that my bro-in-law hates. That would have been pretty bad.

I also note Japan Amazon has complete crap prices on Guitar Hero games (I need to replace my controller), and Play-Asia must not have realized they horribly overordered DJ Hero. Or maybe they didn't, this time.

demi · « **Reply #43 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:17:25 AM »

So your brother in law has bad taste. How does that relate to you?

tiesto · « **Reply #44 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:48:30 AM »

I saw the PC version of Last Remnant at GS yesterday, totally forgot they made a PC ver of it. I will be getting a new laptop for Xmas so was wondering... is the PC version worth double dipping on, I have the 360 game sitting on my shelf from last year, still in shrinkwrap

demi · « **Reply #45 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:50:10 AM »

PC version is gimped for noobs. Noobified.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #46 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:23:13 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on December 06, 2009, 10:48:30 AM

I saw the PC version of Last Remnant at GS yesterday, totally forgot they made a PC ver of it. I will be getting a new laptop for Xmas so was wondering... is the PC version worth double dipping on, I have the 360 game sitting on my shelf from last year, still in shrinkwrap

Here's the changes for the PC version:

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* Enhanced graphical settings, such as increased LOD.
o Graphics settings are customisable to meet the capabilities of the player's PC.
* New commands and new skills.
* A Turbo Mode that increases battle speed.
* Linking additional enemies together does not increase your Battle Rank further than having fought them separately.
* Battle Rank is now visible from inside the Main Menu.
* Items are now color-coded indicating their rarity, and categorised according to type.
* Leader limits are no longer imposed, allowing full parties of nothing but (Unique) Leaders.
* Arts can now be disabled, allowing the player to limit what arts a character uses in battle.
* All Xbox 360 downloadable content is available, but requires specific ingame items to be unlocked.
* Characters involved in quests are now specially marked on the minimap.
* A "New Game Plus" option is now available upon finishing the game.
o The following are carried over to the new game: components, formations, gold, magazines, maps, Mr. Digg's status, and items that unlock arts for Rush.
* Hard mode in which monsters are particularly more difficult than on Normal mode.
* An Auto-Save function, making the game automatically save after each battle and each region change.
* A warning message is now displayed if game progress is saved between subsequent boss fights.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #47 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:48:19 PM »

The PC version plays like buttah, and lets you pimp out your party full of generals.

hyp · « **Reply #48 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:39:49 PM »

whats the verdict on star ocean 4? i have it queued up, wondering if i should even bother.

iconoclast · « **Reply #49 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:53:12 PM »

the *only* good thing about star ocean 4 is the combat, and that's only if you're playing a melee character. it's a bad game and it's the second worst rpg on the 360, barely edging out eternal sonata.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:12:27 PM »

the worst rpg is by far and away infinite undiscovery, followed by mass effect

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #51 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:28:02 PM »

Quote from: hyp on December 06, 2009, 01:39:49 PM

whats the verdict on star ocean 4? i have it queued up, wondering if i should even bother.

It's terrible.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #52 on:** December 06, 2009, 03:40:16 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 06, 2009, 02:12:27 PM

the worst rpg is by far and away infinite undiscovery, followed by mass effect

Dude, Eternal Sonata is worse than either by a fair country mile. Mass Effect actually isn't terrible, you just hate on it because there's no panty patrol action.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #53 on:** December 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM »

no, i hate on it because it has shitty shooting for combat, horrid class balance, dumb party ai, a terrible ui, dune buggy boogaloo, and terrible itemization.

story/plot/characters are for figgurts in ANY game

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2009, 06:23:05 PM »

But the music.

THE MUSIC!

Bebpo · « **Reply #55 on:** December 06, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM

no, i hate on it because it has shitty shooting for combat, horrid class balance, dumb party ai, a terrible ui, dune buggy boogaloo, and terrible itemization.

story/plot/characters are for figgurts in ANY game

u do not like playing as space marine with gun, space marine with gun, or space marine with gun?

chronovore · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:01:11 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 06, 2009, 07:17:25 AM

So your brother in law has bad taste. How does that relate to you?

Strictly speaking, it's not. Not blood related, at least.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #57 on:** December 06, 2009, 08:13:01 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 06:35:44 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
no, i hate on it because it has shitty shooting for combat, horrid class balance, dumb party ai, a terrible ui, dune buggy boogaloo, and terrible itemization.

story/plot/characters are for figgurts in ANY game

u do not like playing as space marine with gun, space marine with gun, or space marine with gun?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2009, 08:47:47 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on December 06, 2009, 08:13:01 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Professor Prole on December 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
no, i hate on it because it has shitty shooting for combat, horrid class balance, dumb party ai, a terrible ui, dune buggy boogaloo, and terrible itemization.

story/plot/characters are for figgurts in ANY game

u do not like playing as space marine with gun, space marine with gun, or space marine with gun?

I'd rather play as a space marine with a gun than a twelve year old girl and a Polish composer.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #59 on:** December 07, 2009, 01:27:25 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 06:35:44 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
no, i hate on it because it has shitty shooting for combat, horrid class balance, dumb party ai, a terrible ui, dune buggy boogaloo, and terrible itemization.

story/plot/characters are for figgurts in ANY game

u do not like playing as space marine with gun, space marine with gun, or space marine with gun?

class BALANCE, sir! i do not mind playing as a space marine with a gun any more than i mind playing as a spiky-haired doe-eyed figgurt, but when you let me choose my character's class, make sure that they are ALL equally viable, not JUST the psychic powerz class because the biotics special efects look effin' stupid yet are apparently necessary to really enjoy the game. :'(

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Author Topic: JRPGs on the 360 (Read 5812 times)