Author Topic: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta) (Read 142557 times)

drew · « **Reply #1140 on:** January 10, 2010, 07:29:33 PM »

yeah i think im ready to start playing this again, the trick is to use a light quick touch especially with the right trigger and tortures, or else youll injure yourself eventually

demi · « **Reply #1141 on:** January 10, 2010, 07:33:30 PM »

I broke 2000 doing one of those Gigaton mashers from beating a boss, not that 2000 halos means shit to me

archie4208 · « **Reply #1142 on:** January 10, 2010, 08:03:02 PM »

Quote from: Third on January 10, 2010, 07:24:38 PM

Whoa, you sure are some dedicated gamers. I beat it on normal and thought it was pretty hard. No chance in hell I'd replay this on a higher difficulty level. I'm not a machochist.

It really isn't that hard. The sword/claws combo is borderline broken and there are some pretty simple combos (aka PK(ch)P) that destroy most enemies. There is an abundance of checkpoints too, moreso than any other game like this. If I had to do the Space Harrier shit every time before I fought Jeanne I wouldn't bother.

demi · « **Reply #1143 on:** January 10, 2010, 08:15:05 PM »

You really shouldnt be dying or using items at all... tsk tsk

archie4208 · « **Reply #1144 on:** January 10, 2010, 08:19:24 PM »

I only used the items when you had to use the canons to fight Fortiudo or whatever in Chapter 15, and that was out of impatience.

demi · « **Reply #1145 on:** January 10, 2010, 08:23:04 PM »

I had trouble with that, but the cannon shoots faster if you mash the buttons, like in the Fantasy Zone level. You can disrupt his laser attack, too.

Ichirou · « **Reply #1146 on:** January 10, 2010, 10:22:50 PM »

How the heck do you kill something by jumping on it? That's one of the achievements, and I can't figure out how to do it.

demi · « **Reply #1147 on:** January 10, 2010, 10:26:32 PM »

Equip Kilgore on feet, go to Prologue and jump on stuff

Congrats

Ichirou · « **Reply #1148 on:** January 10, 2010, 11:02:37 PM »

lol, I've never used Kilgore. That explains it. I kept trying to get it with Odette.

Thanks!

demi · « **Reply #1149 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:23:21 AM »

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/01/bayonetta-style/

Another awkward wonder hates Bayonetta's style

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/01/bayonetta-and-the-glamorous-mundane/

Kohler, surprisingly loves it

Ichirou · « **Reply #1150 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:33:01 AM »

Wow, what an idiot. His main reason for disliking Bayonetta is that the art styles and the main character's fashion choices clash?

Maybe he should go back to critiquing Project Runway and America's Top Model and leave Bayonetta to the real gamers.

archie4208 · « **Reply #1151 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:35:22 AM »

derp derp I'm to much of a sensitive baby to ignore the best playing action game of all time. I honestly stopped giving a shit about Bayonetta's over the top sluttiness about 30 minutes into the game.

demi · « **Reply #1152 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:36:46 AM »

His achievements only have him past the prologue... I sent him a message (he's on my list) saying he should put more time into it. At least finish the game before saying its shit... really irks me when people do that.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #1153 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:39:55 AM »

I read that this morning and it honestly made me a bit upset. What a tard. Also Ichi, you can use the whip and shotguns to jump kill enemies. Jump, grab them and then jump off them. It's how I got my achievement, it's also how you beat two of the Alfhiems.

Ichirou · « **Reply #1154 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:45:59 AM »

I haven't even bothered with the Alfheims yet, just trying to finish the game on hard right now.

demi · « **Reply #1155 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:47:32 AM »

Most of the alfheims are doable even on Hard, I had to notch to Normal for a couple - namely the one where you have to defeat the Golem using only Witch Time

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1156 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:51:21 AM »

arghghghg I want this game so bad. Got no game money for a couple of weeks :'(

demi · « **Reply #1157 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:52:37 AM »

tbh, Scenester, I would rent it if you are hard on money. I think you could run through it on a weekend if you wanted. Even 1000 isnt hard, if you are used to difficult games / reflexes.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1158 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:00:56 AM »

really? I was kinda expecting like an extreme amount of time for the achievements after DMC4, sweet I'll look at renting it. I think a bro is picking it up so I might just borrow it of him when hes done, but then theres a waiting period... I'll see how my finances look in a week. Mass Effect 2 does have priority though.

demi · « **Reply #1159 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:02:39 AM »

Nah DMC4 is definitely harder bceause you have to get S-ranks, Bayonetta doesnt give a shit

Ichirou · « **Reply #1160 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:11:36 AM »

Just got both achievements with Khulshedra and Kilgore equipped. I'd gotten too used to using Shuraba and Odette.

Thanks, guys. Going to see if I can finish up the game on hard today and then start working on the Alfheims.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1161 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:13:06 AM »

Man, this is so Viewtiful Joe at times. Which is a good thing.

Ichirou · « **Reply #1162 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:27:39 AM »

Quote from: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:36:46 AM

His achievements only have him past the prologue... I sent him a message (he's on my list) saying he should put more time into it. At least finish the game before saying its shit... really irks me when people do that.

Only past the fucking prologue? The guy is reviewing the game after playing probably an hour of it? That's just embarrassing and pathetic.

Obviously he has no understanding of the mechanics of the gameplay or anything else that would qualify him to review it. It'd be like Ebert critiquing a movie he only saw the opening thirty minutes of. And this guy's getting paid for this? Pathetic.

demi · « **Reply #1163 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:34:48 AM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on January 11, 2010, 01:13:06 AM

Man, this is so Viewtiful Joe at times. Which is a good thing.

You can buy the Red Hot Kick too (called Afterburner Kick in the game)

drew · « **Reply #1164 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:51:02 AM »

i dont understand something about the alfheims, the only way to do them on normal after you beat the game is to start a new game, but how would the peices of witch heart and cracked magic orbs transfer over to my new game+ file on hard?

demi · « **Reply #1165 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:59:20 AM »

i'm not sure i understand the question... you can do alfheims on any difficulty, and it will add to your current heart / pearl. any previous spots / alfheims you do will reward you with an angel bullet.

to replay a level on a different difficulty you go to the submenu (LB)

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1166 on:** January 11, 2010, 02:02:59 AM »

just killed fortitudo. easy fight but awesome.

bayonetta

Ichirou · « **Reply #1167 on:** January 11, 2010, 02:05:54 AM »

Yeah, drew, you don't have to make a new save file to play the game on hard. You just use the RB to bring up the sub-menu and switch the difficulty on all the levels you've already cleared on normal. You can choose to do the Alfheims in any order. I'm just holding off 'cause I want to do them all once I clear hard and have enough Halos stored up so that I can get the Moon of Maaha Kaala.

demi · « **Reply #1168 on:** January 11, 2010, 02:06:54 AM »

Just do the halo farm trick on Iustria (plant), even without trying you can get over 200k halos

Ichirou · « **Reply #1169 on:** January 11, 2010, 08:25:43 AM »

Absolutely none, it's just there so you can equip them on both hands and feet at the same time.

archie4208 · « **Reply #1170 on:** January 11, 2010, 09:57:18 AM »

Bayonetta debuted 5th in the UK sales charts.

It was beat out by "Just Dance" on the Wii. :'(

Ichirou · « **Reply #1171 on:** January 11, 2010, 10:22:50 AM »

Anybody know how it's doing in the US, saleswise? I saw the US advertising on Youtube. It actually looks pretty cool. Plus, all the reviews have been great. I don't know if that will translate into sales, though. I hope so, I'd love to see another Bayonetta game a couple of years from now. Maybe one that takes place in Inferno this time!

archie4208 · « **Reply #1172 on:** January 11, 2010, 10:23:58 AM »

It will probably sell enough to feed Kamiya for another game, and frankly that is all we can hope for. A game like this is going to have very limited appeal.

Ichirou · « **Reply #1173 on:** January 11, 2010, 10:26:10 AM »

In a just world, this thing would've sold like a million copies in Japan already.

iconoclast · « **Reply #1174 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:50:22 PM »

Chapter 6 Pure Platinum ruined because Cereza decides to trip and fall during the fucking ESCORT MISSION! WHO DESIGNED THIS TRASH

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1175 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:55:24 PM »

i saw an advert while in a bar in hawaii

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1176 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:55:53 PM »

also how much do i hate grace and glory? so much

spamming rt like a fiend does not excitement make

demi · « **Reply #1177 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:59:19 PM »

Grace and Glory just relax and pepper them with bullets.

One (usually) will only come up to you, then do a downward claw swipe, which is easy to RT and activate witch time.

The AI is as smart as DMC4's, as long as the other isnt in camera focus, it wont attack.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1178 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:10:28 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 10:22:50 AM

Anybody know how it's doing in the US, saleswise? I saw the US advertising on Youtube. It actually looks pretty cool. Plus, all the reviews have been great. I don't know if that will translate into sales, though.

Judging by the gamer dudes on my favorite non-gaming specific forum, people either don't know much about it, or are reluctant to buy it because of what they do know about it, which essentially extends to jappy wacky cheeseburger DMC. I posted a clip I found that showed off a couple of the torture attacks and the basic gameplay, and that didn't help much.

archie4208 · « **Reply #1179 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:24:24 PM »

Yeah I think it will probably do 200-300k at most in Europe and the US. Apparently it did 300k in Japan so half a million for a game like this isn't that bad.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1180 on:** January 11, 2010, 01:31:02 PM »

It charted alright in the UK, though (6th and 14th), beating out Darksiders which is supposedly selling well. Not great placements, but maybe good word of mouth will boost it a bit.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #1181 on:** January 11, 2010, 06:54:09 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:59:19 PM

Grace and Glory just relax and pepper them with bullets.

One (usually) will only come up to you, then do a downward claw swipe, which is easy to RT and activate witch time.

The AI is as smart as DMC4's, as long as the other isnt in camera focus, it wont attack.

demi

Beezy · « **Reply #1182 on:** January 11, 2010, 08:34:41 PM »

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1183 on:** January 12, 2010, 01:38:38 AM »

the more I think about it, the more this game seems like social commentary about how japanese women don't shave

Beezy · « **Reply #1184 on:** January 12, 2010, 01:49:38 AM »

you're reaching

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1185 on:** January 12, 2010, 01:53:12 AM »

not at all. The hair empowers Bayonetta, a dominant female character to overcome her oppressors wait what

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1186 on:** January 12, 2010, 02:08:41 AM »

Just got to some electro and fire boss dudes, how far in is that? Trying to figure out if I should just go ahead and buy it, or if I'll have to complete it in the rental period.

Beezy · « **Reply #1187 on:** January 12, 2010, 02:49:22 AM »

When you parry with the Moon of Mana Khalaa, how do you go into witch time? I did it by accident a few times today and it helped a lot against Gracious and Glorious. I can't fucking stand them on hard.

Quote from: duckman2000 on January 12, 2010, 02:08:41 AM

Just got to some electro and fire boss dudes, how far in is that? Trying to figure out if I should just go ahead and buy it, or if I'll have to complete it in the rental period.

Not far. What chapter was that?

demi · « **Reply #1188 on:** January 12, 2010, 03:13:43 AM »

There's two types of parrys with the moon. The first one is a general bounce-back. The second, you have to get them like... immediately before you get hit. You'll know it worked when this bright orb appears and she slices back, and WT activates.

Much easier to practice on the prologue to see the difference.

Duckman is probably talking about Chapter 5 where you first meet Grace and Glory. That's not far at all. There's 18 chapters in the game (Prolog + 16 chaps + Epilogue)

Beezy · « **Reply #1189 on:** January 12, 2010, 03:21:43 AM »

Quote from: demi on January 12, 2010, 03:13:43 AM

The second, you have to get them like... immediately before you get hit.

Ah, so it's like the bat thing. The regular bounce back parry is much easier to do than I thought it would be. I love that it reflects back projectiles too.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #1190 on:** January 12, 2010, 03:50:50 AM »

Got a bit further in, fought that chick again, and now I'm chasing after some kid. The frequency of cutscenes is starting to wear on me.

Ichirou · « **Reply #1191 on:** January 12, 2010, 07:58:41 AM »

I just tried the Durgas trick on the boss in Chapter 7, got 1.5 million halos without even trying. Fucking awesome.

iconoclast · « **Reply #1192 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:01:54 AM »

Whoever thought the Angel Arms (and their related missions) implementation was acceptable needs to find a new profession. They are clearly not fit for game design.

iconoclast · « **Reply #1193 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:29:48 AM »

Not sure what keeps damaging me too... Pretty sure every chapter I've Pure Platinum'd so far I've had <85 damage by the end. Wassupwitdat? I'm still getting my PP trophy though so I don't really care.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #1194 on:** January 12, 2010, 11:11:13 PM »

Second game I ever 1000/1000

Bayonetta

Platintum Games

Sega

Best fucking game ever.

dark1x · « **Reply #1195 on:** January 13, 2010, 10:20:57 AM »

Finished it for the first time last night and thought it was surprisingly good. It has its share of flaws (annoying technical hiccups and frequent nonsense in the form of cutscenes), but it's way better than I expected it to be. I was never a huge Devil May Cry fan and almost wrote this off as a result, but really, it's so much more fun.

drew · « **Reply #1196 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:42:33 AM »

if you dont understand the story you must have caught the stupid

dark1x · « **Reply #1197 on:** January 13, 2010, 12:23:48 PM »

Quote from: drew on January 13, 2010, 11:42:33 AM

if you dont understand the story you must have caught the stupid

So you're saying you ENJOYED the story?

demi · « **Reply #1198 on:** January 13, 2010, 01:23:09 PM »

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #1199 on:** January 13, 2010, 11:21:42 PM »

So I beat the secret boss.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

That was really really fucking hard. Easily the hardest boss in th entire game plus the fight is in Non Stop Climax mode. FUCK HARD. I put on the Climax Bracelet because fighting him any other way is masochism. I almost beat him once with out getting hit, had half his health bar left and he does his near instant kill attack. Normally you can just turn into the panther and run away but it's like he warped to me. FUCKING INSTANT TRANSMISSION. I barely beat him many tries later. You get the final LP "Rodin" for beating him.

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Author Topic: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta) (Read 142557 times)