Author Topic: NSMB wii looks pretty boss (Read 11947 times)

Oblivion · « **Reply #60 on:** October 21, 2009, 09:53:36 PM »

The little bit of music I've heard in the game doesn't seem as bad. It sounds like they got a different composer.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #61 on:** October 21, 2009, 10:47:01 PM »

Pretty sure it's that same woman.

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I couldn't disagree more about SMB3. Actually, one of the big reasons I don't like World nearly as much is because both the music and style felt like a huge downgrade (despite being on more powerful hardware). I don't want to SMB3 was "dark" or anything like, but SMW felt like a kids cartoon compared to it. Things like World 7 and how it was like a jazzy industrial theme with throwbacks to the underground areas in SMB1 were amazing. And World 8 was just crazy. It's like your in hell, fighting off tanks to a heavy marching theme. SMB3 was so incredible. SMW is amazing too, don't get me wrong, but SMB3 is on another level. Yoshi's Island might be on that level.

Maybe it's my age, I don't know. I identify Mario as a series in general more with the tropical theme of World because that's how I grew up playing him, for the most part. World was my favorite SNES game by far. And I don't know, I would rather listen to the overarching tropical theme music from World, especially the Athletic version, than I would listen to the regular music from Bros. 3.

Plus, the credits music in World, omg

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #62 on:** October 21, 2009, 11:48:06 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #63 on:** October 21, 2009, 11:50:35 PM »

I didn't even play World until years after it came out, so I always identify more with Super Mario Bros. 2 and the first two levels of Super Mario Bros. 1.

tiesto · « **Reply #64 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:31:37 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on October 21, 2009, 11:48:06 PM

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #65 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:36:30 AM »

Is there a particular reason you linked to Pokemon music?

Oh, and fuck bitches:
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Oblivion · « **Reply #66 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:43:08 AM »

SMW's castle music >>>>>>>>>>>>> SMB3's castle music.

Both games have kickass ending music, however.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #67 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:45:15 AM »

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Don Flamenco · « **Reply #68 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:50:33 AM »

NSMB DS' music is pretty bad, but it's the voices going "BAH!" on all the offbeats and breaks in the music that drives me up the wall.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #69 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:57:51 AM »

And even though Super Mario Bros. 2 is my least favorite Mario platformer, it might have some of the most tits music of the series.
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Mario music

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #70 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:08:05 AM »

I linked to pokemon music because the songs sound way similar.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #71 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:10:01 AM »

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #72 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:11:58 AM »

how can you post galaxy music and NOT post this :'(
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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #73 on:** October 22, 2009, 01:15:07 AM »

I can't post ALL of the awesome SMG songs!!

And I was sticking with ones that use more simple tunes.

Hollywood · « **Reply #74 on:** October 22, 2009, 02:52:31 AM »

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AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #75 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:13:58 AM »

The world map in NSMB also sucked, so I'm glad they're bringing that back.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #76 on:** October 23, 2009, 02:30:28 PM »

I'm not trying to be all Nintendo-faggy, but is online really important for a game like this? I guess it'd be nice to have the option, but I think it kinda defeats the purpose of the way the multiplayer is supposed to be experienced.

Akala · « **Reply #77 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:02:52 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 23, 2009, 02:30:28 PM

I'm not trying to be all Nintendo-faggy, but is online really important for a game like this? I guess it'd be nice to have the option, but I think it kinda defeats the purpose of the way the multiplayer is supposed to be experienced.

Fighting game (especially Virtua Fighter) fans have used this excuse for years.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #78 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:07:09 PM »

Why the fuck wouldn't I want online in every single game with co op?

cool breeze · « **Reply #79 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:07:20 PM »

It's important. That same room experience people talk about is usually just a bullshit excuse for why they didn't put in online. Truth is that after grades k-12, it becomes more difficult for people to find three other adult humans (as in not man-babies) to sit down and play a video game like this with. Nintendo still believes it's the future world of 1999 and manages to stay on par with the Dreamcast. When/if they do decide to bring more things online, then they will start saying something about how it's a breakthrough that you can play Mario across the internet. I'm also not saying that local play is bad. Littlebigplanet has a similar play structure and supported both online and local; online was smooth most of the time but on the rare occasion when I could try local, it obviously was at its best. Options are nice, and in the year 2009, these things should be expected in games.

Robo · « **Reply #80 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:10:10 PM »

Quote from: Akala on October 23, 2009, 03:02:52 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on October 23, 2009, 02:30:28 PM
I'm not trying to be all Nintendo-faggy, but is online really important for a game like this? I guess it'd be nice to have the option, but I think it kinda defeats the purpose of the way the multiplayer is supposed to be experienced.

Fighting game (especially Virtua Fighter) fans have used this excuse for years.

There's completely different reasoning behind online regarding fighting games. It has very little to do with same room experience.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #81 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:13:27 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 23, 2009, 02:30:28 PM

I'm not trying to be all Nintendo-faggy, but is online really important for a game like this? I guess it'd be nice to have the option, but I think it kinda defeats the purpose of the way the multiplayer is supposed to be experienced.

They are free to make whatever game they want to make and allocate whatever resources they want to make to include whatever features they want. Clearly Nintendo doesn't put a lot of effort into online and it certainly hasn't hurt them in the marketplace so there is something to be said about being dedicated to the focus they have chosen.

But including online multiplayer doesn't defeat the purpose of anything if your mode already has local co-op. All it does is allow people who don't hang with grown men who want to come over to your house or apartment and play a Mario game to enjoy the game.

Its 2009. Not 1999.

archie4208 · « **Reply #82 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:22:46 PM »

Don't be so hard on Nintendo, guys. NSMB Wii uses ALL of the system's processing power. Online play is not feasible.

Oblivion · « **Reply #83 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:24:01 PM »

I know it's ONM, but...

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What's the soundtrack like?
I love it. It's a mixture of remixed New Super Mario Bros DS tracks, some old-school SMB and SMB3 tracks and some new stuff. The new track for the first underwater stage is one of the best tracks I've heard in a modern Mario game. It's right up there with some of the Galaxy stuff. Loved it.

Makes me very pleased. GotY confirmed again.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #84 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:24:34 PM »

Meh, I'm just not into online gaming period I guess. But yeah I agree with you guys, the option should be there.

Oblivion · « **Reply #85 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:25:44 PM »

HOLY SHIT

Quote from: Edge Magazine

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #86 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:26:27 PM »

Edge also liked NSMB DS better. We all KNOW that's not the case.

Himu · « **Reply #87 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:28:20 PM »

NSMB ds sucked

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #88 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:30:30 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 23, 2009, 03:24:34 PM

Meh, I'm just not into online gaming period I guess. But yeah I agree with you guys, the option should be there.

The problem is that many of us simply are adults and unless you are playing with your kids or something the local co-op experience is useless to me. And even more uselsss if I need 3 other people to play with.

When Nintendo doesn't include online features in their games (or shoddy online features) its because they are catering to a market that doesn't care about that. Which is fine. That's just not me. Which is why I generally game on other systems.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #89 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:32:35 PM »

It didn't suck so much as that it was fairly forgettable due to some pretty obvious flaws. Everything I've read about this game seems to indicate that they've fixed a lot of those issues.

Akala · « **Reply #90 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:42:01 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on October 23, 2009, 03:10:10 PM

There's completely different reasoning behind online regarding fighting games. It has very little to do with same room experience.

Somewhat. While the clear reasoning against online in most (serious) fighters was that games would be unplayable at a high level, there is always some 'will kill the scene' and 'same room experience' junk in the periphery. Maybe it's kind of wrong to lump them in all together (as the lag excuse is way more valid than all of the others), but hey. IIRC this was the primary argument when VF5 Online was announced for the 360, along with the doubt Sega could get it running well, and the undercurrent of pissed off PS3 fans shitting all over it. While we still aren't at the point where it totally matches what you get (input/lag wise) playing someone locally, I have to appreciate the option.

SF4 wouldn't have held my interest nearly as long as it did if there wasn't an online mode. I'd rather suffer through many busted laggy games to get at least a few good ones.

In any case, a game like SMB has no excuse to not be online, save laziness.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #91 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:47:25 PM »

The lag argument is always a bit silly to me especially when the online that has been implemented in fighting games currently is shitty no matter what. The vast bulk of people who play online fighting games aren't tournament level and the same goes with fps shooting games. All action games are better locally when it comes to latency but most people still want an online version in there.

There will always be a difference between a good online Street Fighter player and a live street fighter player. As long as we know that I've never seen the issue.

cool breeze · « **Reply #92 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:49:09 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on October 23, 2009, 03:33:12 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2009, 03:30:30 PM
The problem is that many of us simply are adults and unless you are playing with your kids or something the local co-op experience is useless to me. And even more uselsss if I need 3 other people to play with.

It's as if they're intentionally making it harder for us to play them. Maybe that's the signal Nintendo is trying to send after all; we shouldn't be playing Mario period.

I don't know about that. I kinda get the feeling that they want parents to play with their kids or something like that. The super guide function is probably there so pa doesn't get angry and pull a switch on his boy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #93 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:53:43 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on October 23, 2009, 03:49:09 PM

I don't know about that. I kinda get the feeling that they want parents to play with their kids or something like that. The super guide function is probably there so pa doesn't get angry and pull a switch on his boy.

I don't think its any secret they are targeting either a family or young kids.

Robo · « **Reply #94 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:55:27 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2009, 03:47:25 PM

The lag argument is always a bit silly to me especially when the online that has been implemented in fighting games currently is shitty no matter what. The vast bulk of people who play online fighting games aren't tournament level and the same goes with fps shooting games. All action games are better locally when it comes to latency but most people still want an online version in there.

The people who were doing the most arguing against it were just inflating their heads. It was only ever going to be a problem with a select niche of really hardcore gamers and that never excused the lack of the option for everyone else. Lag does severely fuck up the game, but nothing's changed for the people who really need to take issue with it. They've always played locally.

twerd · « **Reply #95 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:56:03 PM »

mario games target families and younger people?!?!?!

Oblivion · « **Reply #96 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:56:59 PM »

Hmm, seems Edge gave the DS version an 8.

twerd · « **Reply #97 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:58:04 PM »

the big news is that they gave uncharted 2 a 9 so sony fans can finally shut the fuck up about edge.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #98 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:58:10 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on October 23, 2009, 03:55:27 PM

The people who were doing the most arguing against it were just inflating their heads. It was only ever going to be a problem with a select niche of really hardcore gamers and that never excused the lack of the option for everyone else. Lag does severely fuck up the game, but nothing's changed for the people who really need to take issue with it. They've always played locally.

Agreed. Although from what I've seen, I think the fighting games have done an especially bad job with their online net code and general functionality even compared to other genres.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #99 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:00:18 PM »

Quote from: twerd on October 23, 2009, 03:58:04 PM

the big news is that they gave uncharted 2 a 9 so sony fans can finally shut the fuck up about edge.

Nope. It's GAF.

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seem pretty good scores this month, but what did Uncharted 2 have to do to earn a 10? I can't think of how they could have improved it.

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So they kept their no 10 to a PS3 game streak alive?

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I really don't agree with Edge's scores

They gave MGS4 an 8, and Halo 3 a 10/10? Halo 3 is perfection? I really don't see how that happens... MGS4 was one of the best games I have ever played for this console generation (Uncharted 2 took number one...), I liked Halo 3, but no way does it deserve a fucking 10.

Robo · « **Reply #100 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:03:14 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2009, 03:58:10 PM

Quote from: RoboJ on October 23, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
The people who were doing the most arguing against it were just inflating their heads. It was only ever going to be a problem with a select niche of really hardcore gamers and that never excused the lack of the option for everyone else. Lag does severely fuck up the game, but nothing's changed for the people who really need to take issue with it. They've always played locally.

Agreed. Although from what I've seen, I think the fighting games have done an especially bad job with their online net code and general functionality even compared to other genres.

I assume its due to a fundamental inability to compensate for lag in any way, but I really don't know what the deal is there.

Robo · « **Reply #101 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:04:07 PM »

I kinda doubt they put much time into SFIV's online. It's half-assed at best. KOF's is totally inexcusable.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #102 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:06:52 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on October 23, 2009, 04:04:07 PM

I kinda doubt they put much time into SFIV's online. It's half-assed at best. KOF's is totally inexcusable.

It's a general stereotype but I still don't think the Japanese do online very well for the most part when it comes to general functionality and performance Western gamers are use to. There are exceptions of course. But I thought the online for SF 4 was mostly shit.

Quote from: Jinfash on October 23, 2009, 04:04:44 PM

It's not, but what I was trying to say is exactly what swaggaz said; I don't think they want to game with your adult friends over online, nor even give you the option, they want to force you to play with your wife and kids.

That may be true. I just wish they were honest about that proposition when they speak to it instead of saying weird stuff like the system is all tapped out. They don't care about online for lots of reasons. It costs. It diverts resources. It's probably meaningless to a large portion of the Wii audience, etc.

iconoclast · « **Reply #103 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:21:22 PM »

SF4's netcode is superb on 4 and 5 bars and still decent on 3 bars. Marvel and SF2HDR still have great netcode (SF2 falls apart around 90-100ms; haven't played enough Marvel to comment on that) and BlazBlue of course has godly netcode. VF5 set the standard for console fighters, and all of those games have improved upon it IMO. Tekken 6 should have the best netcode (for 3D at least) considering how popular it's going to be, but I think there's a pretty decent chance that Namco is gonna blow it.

Wait, what was this thread about again?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #104 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:23:22 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on October 23, 2009, 03:25:44 PM

HOLY SHIT

Quote from: Edge Magazine
7

So, it's as good as Brutal Legend and better than Borderlands? Sounds like a pretty awesome game to me.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #105 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM »

what did edge give borderlands?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #106 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:43:12 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM

what did edge give borderlands?

6

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #107 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:45:46 PM »

Why I oughta...

Robo · « **Reply #108 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:17:42 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on October 23, 2009, 06:15:28 PM

Just create an Edge hate thread and be done with it.

Was that directed at FoC? ...

Third · « **Reply #109 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:30:40 PM »

A 7 is a reasonable score from what I've seen so far of the game...

SantaC · « **Reply #110 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:56:45 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM

what did edge give borderlands?

it is just a typical generic american game which is overrated by the american media.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #111 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:59:26 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on October 23, 2009, 06:56:45 PM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
what did edge give borderlands?

it is just a typical generic american game which is overrated by the american media.

I'm not exactly a fan of Gearbox, but I really don't think you can label this game "generic." I don't know if it's great or not since I haven't played it, but I know enough about it to know that it's something a bit special.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #112 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:00:30 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on October 23, 2009, 06:56:45 PM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
what did edge give borderlands?

it is just a typical generic american game which is overrated by the american media.

OXM UK gave it an 8.0 and Computer & Video Games UK gave it an 8.5.

SantaC · « **Reply #113 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:10:52 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 23, 2009, 06:59:26 PM

Quote from: SantaC on October 23, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
what did edge give borderlands?

it is just a typical generic american game which is overrated by the american media.

I'm not exactly a fan of Gearbox, but I really don't think you can label this game "generic." I don't know if it's great or not since I haven't played it, but I know enough about it to know that it's something a bit special.

If this is the same gearbox that failed with Counter-Strike Condition Zero and made that horrible Halo 1 to PC version, then yes these guys are horrible.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #114 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:13:16 PM »

You're not going to goad me into defending the company, but your "generic American game" verdict seems completely off. No surprise there.

SantaC · « **Reply #115 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:15:47 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 23, 2009, 07:13:16 PM

You're not going to goad me into defending the company, but your "generic American game" verdict seems completely off. No surprise there.

Att du ens orkar hänga seriöst på det här stället alltså $:-\$

demi · « **Reply #116 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:16:30 PM »

LMAO SantaC PM'd me

Hey guess what, you're still a LOSER

duckman2000 · « **Reply #117 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:16:37 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on October 23, 2009, 07:15:47 PM

Quote from: duckman2000 on October 23, 2009, 07:13:16 PM
You're not going to goad me into defending the company, but your "generic American game" verdict seems completely off. No surprise there.

Att du ens orkar hänga seriöst på det här stället alltså $:-\$

Tricket är kanske att inte ta det så seriöst?

SantaC · « **Reply #118 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:38:04 PM »

Quote from: demi on October 23, 2009, 07:16:30 PM

LMAO SantaC PM'd me

Hey guess what, you're still a LOSER

I am just tired of your BS. You're the reason I dislike this forum. Or else it would be kinda good.

Third · « **Reply #119 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:42:23 PM »

Google translate is my friend

SantaC owned by Duckman.

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