Author Topic: Official Thread of Flogging the Log: A Place for Better Random Talk (Read 559246 times)

Bebpo · « **Reply #1080 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:27:41 PM »

Yeah, it sucks, but that's why you do it until you've got money in the bank and then you say fuck it and find a better low-paying job that's fun. For instance, Pornography.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1081 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:30:36 PM »

^^^I was looking for that the other day! saved.

Got some good study time in today. Feelin' good about contracts. First time I've been able to say that all semester. It's a 40-50 question multiple choice exam that's worth 70%...that's fucking nuts.

Now I have to check out property and torts, which I haven't reviewed all semester. yay.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1082 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:43:36 PM »

jesus, slams on the floor above me and some dude screaming like a bum from Condemned $:-\$ I think I'll take a walk now.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1083 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:49:06 PM »

I guess he goes to law school, too?

Bebpo · « **Reply #1084 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:43:23 PM »

So I gotta some COFFEE (I can't drink coffee cause it gives me the runs, so when I do drink coffee once every few months it is like 100x more powerful) and have actually been writing and making awesome philosophical debating backed by legal and literary text.

So now I'm writing a bit on how we tell stories to pass down information to future generations and I am SO TEMPTED TO QUOTE MGS2 on how passing down information to future generations.

Quote

Colonel : But there are things not covered by genetic information.

Raiden : What do you mean?

Colonel : Human memories, ideas. Culture. History.

Rose : Genes don't contain any record of human history.

Colonel : Is it something that should not be passed on? Should that
information be left at the mercy of nature?

Rose : We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures,
symbols... from tablets to books...

Colonel : But not all the information was inherited by later generations. A
small percentage of the whole was selected and processed, then
passed on. Not unlike genes, really.

Rose : That's what history is, Jack.

Quote

Jack : Yeah. But genes aren't the only thing you pass on. There are too
many things that aren't written into our DNA. It's up to us to
teach that to our children.

Rose : What kind of things?

Jack : About the environment, our ideas, our culture... poetry...
compassion... sorrow... joy... We'll tell them everything...
together.

Quote

Snake : Life isn't just about passing on your genes. We can leave behind
much more than just DNA. Through speech, music, literature and
movies... what we've seen, heard, felt ...anger, joy and
sorrow... these are the things I will pass on. That's what I
live for.

We need to pass the torch, and let our children read our messy
and sad history by its light. We have all the magic of the
digital age to do that with. The human race will probably come to
an end some time, and new species may rule over this planet. Earth
may not be forever, but we still have the responsibility to leave
what traces of life we can. Building the future and keeping the
past alive are one and the same thing.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1085 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:46:35 PM »

ok, nm I'm over that

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #1086 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:51:54 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 05, 2009, 07:43:23 PM

So now I'm writing a bit on how we tell stories to pass down information to future generations and I am SO TEMPTED TO QUOTE MGS2

smh

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1087 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:04:25 PM »

Jesus Christ.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1088 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:07:41 PM »

Bebpo · « **Reply #1089 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:17:16 PM »

Kojima on Philosophy

But yeah I'm not going to quote Solid Snake on a grad school paper

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1090 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:20:15 PM »

You should probably delete that post before someone quotes it and it's on the internet forever.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1091 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:20:25 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 05, 2009, 07:43:23 PM

So I gotta some COFFEE (I can't drink coffee cause it gives me the runs, so when I do drink coffee once every few months it is like 100x more powerful) and have actually been writing and making awesome philosophical debating backed by legal and literary text.

So now I'm writing a bit on how we tell stories to pass down information to future generations and I am SO TEMPTED TO QUOTE MGS2 on how passing down information to future generations.

Quote
Colonel : But there are things not covered by genetic information.

Raiden    : What do you mean?

Colonel : Human memories, ideas. Culture. History.

Rose    : Genes don't contain any record of human history.

Colonel : Is it something that should not be passed on? Should that
   information be left at the mercy of nature?

Rose    : We've always kept records of our lives. Through words, pictures,
   symbols... from tablets to books...

Colonel : But not all the information was inherited by later generations. A
   small percentage of the whole was selected and processed, then
   passed on. Not unlike genes, really.

Rose    : That's what history is, Jack.

Quote
Jack    : Yeah. But genes aren't the only thing you pass on. There are too
   many things that aren't written into our DNA. It's up to us to
   teach that to our children.

Rose    : What kind of things?

Jack    : About the environment, our ideas, our culture... poetry...
   compassion... sorrow... joy... We'll tell them everything...
   together.

Quote
Snake : Life isn't just about passing on your genes. We can leave behind
   much more than just DNA. Through speech, music, literature and
   movies... what we've seen, heard, felt ...anger, joy and
   sorrow... these are the things I will pass on. That's what I
   live for.

   We need to pass the torch, and let our children read our messy
   and sad history by its light. We have all the magic of the
   digital age to do that with. The human race will probably come to
   an end some time, and new species may rule over this planet. Earth
   may not be forever, but we still have the responsibility to leave
   what traces of life we can. Building the future and keeping the
   past alive are one and the same thing.

Too late.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1092 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:22:18 PM »

I really like Kojima's talks in MGS1-3. They're far, faaaaaaaar too long-winded, but I like that he tries to introduce some actual philosophical thought into gaming.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1093 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:22:22 PM »

I've wrote 145 words for this essay in 3 hours. Fuck. :'(

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1094 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:24:40 PM »

i finished the first season of BSG today.

BSG

HD

Box sets

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1095 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:40:00 PM »

You got the UK version, right?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1096 on:** December 05, 2009, 09:47:57 PM »

yeeees

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1097 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:18:20 PM »

Is there anything more strange than taking a gigantic shit and having it smell exactly like the food you ate the night before. I mean, there's usually something lost in translation there but the sweetness of the garlics came right the fuck on through. I was all like

. I ate onion and garlic pizza last night.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1098 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:20:40 PM »

You should have tasted it to find out.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1099 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:22:11 PM »

Which makes me wonder if I should hire two hookers to do a 2 Chicks 1 Cup but have one of the chicks eat a fuckload of Garlic without the other knowing... just to see the look of pleasant surprise on the one receiving the brown punishment.

Himu · « **Reply #1100 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:24:06 PM »

What's so great about the UK version of BSG Blu ray? Is it cheaper?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1101 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:26:14 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 05, 2009, 10:24:06 PM

What's so great about the UK version of BSG Blu ray? Is it cheaper?

cheaper. doesnt have shitty packaging.

Himu · « **Reply #1102 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:28:46 PM »

you import from amazon uk or something? What was the price?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1103 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:32:46 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 05, 2009, 10:28:46 PM

you import from amazon uk or something? What was the price?

yes. amazon uk. price was $170. US release is like $200

for comparison. here's the US release packaging:

this is the UK release:

US release is such a terrible design. Having each season in different positions forcing you to rotate the case to get to them?

UK release is simple and clean. Open front door, grab season, pull out of sleeve and gg.

Himu · « **Reply #1104 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:33:47 PM »

...

I can't believe how bad the US one is..

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #1105 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:35:39 PM »

porcupine cancer

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1106 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:38:54 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 05, 2009, 10:33:47 PM

...

I can't believe how bad the US one is..

but hey it comes with a little toaster doll!!

Bebpo · « **Reply #1107 on:** December 05, 2009, 11:40:29 PM »

5 pages down, 20 to go! Not gonna sleep until it's done tonight. Though I'm doing the body first so 5/20 pages done on that. Then I just summarize it all twice in a 2.5 page intro and 2.5 page conclusion.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

not planning on sleeping at all

[close]

Bebpo · « **Reply #1108 on:** December 05, 2009, 11:44:04 PM »

Also I'm kind of impressed by this new age of internet where you can put in a sentence in google and find a quote about it from the free preview pages of some book on amazon and then you have a legitimate book with all the citing information & page number & useful quote!

Bebpo · « **Reply #1109 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:14:56 AM »

Is there a general limit on what's acceptable for length of a quote in a double-spaced paper? I found this great study on false rape accusations but I'm not sure how to pair it down any smaller without losing all the effectiveness and it takes up about 1/2 a page.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #1110 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:17:50 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 12:14:56 AM

Is there a general limit on what's acceptable for length of a quote in a double-spaced paper? I found this great study on false rape accusations but I'm not sure how to pair it down any smaller without losing all the effectiveness and it takes up about 1/2 a page.
[/quote

1/2 a page max when i wrote papers.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #1111 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:18:05 AM »

if you can justify using the whole thing, go for it. 'Specially if you're reaching for 15 in one night.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1112 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:30:56 AM »

It's a big reason why I'm still on the East Coast - the cost of living is ridiculous, and that state taxes the hell out of you. I have a Los Angeles office address and phone number, but I'm really based out of the D.C. metropolitan area. I only fly to Los Angeles when necessary.

bork · « **Reply #1113 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:33:16 AM »

I'd probably get the hell away from message boards if I were you, Bebpo.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1114 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:44:53 AM »

Yeah, a lot of the indie filmmakers locally are based out of D.C. for whatever reason. I know one guy who flew over there last summer to shoot a film and then flew back.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1115 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:50:54 AM »

There's a production base here (since the vast majority of non-fiction media is produced or in post-production here thanks to Discovery, Smithsonian and National Geographic), so talent and crew can be acquired in a hurry. There are a handful of decent schools/art centers that the creative people tend to revolve around. And you can usually get people to pay for your travel costs, which makes it easier to live here.

The two cheapest places to shoot in the states are Detroit and South Carolina, though.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1116 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:00:07 AM »

A half page quote from a study? I don't think your professor will be too impressed that you were unable to either paraphrase it or weave it into the structure of your own sentences.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #1117 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:11:43 AM »

Yeah, I'd just paraphrase it all with choice figures in quotations and a source cited at the end of the little summary. I would just always paste the whole quote to pad a paper back in high school.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1118 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:17:10 AM »

I got it down to:

Quote

“Charles P. McDowell…studied the 1,218 reports of rape that were made between 1980 and 1984 on Air Force bases throughout the world (McDowell, 1985). Of those, 460 were found to be "proven"…Another 212 of the total reports were found to be "disproved" as the alleged victim convincingly admitted the complaint was a "hoax" at some point during the initial investigation. The researchers then investigated the 546 remaining or "unresolved" rape allegations including having the accusers submit to a polygraph. Twenty-seven percent (27%) of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusation just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test…Combining this 27% with the initial 212 "disproved" cases, it was determined that approximately 45% of the total rape allegations were false”

But I think I'm just gonna say a large % of rape cases are based on false claims[1] and throw all that in a footnote at the bottom.

8 pages done now. 12 to go. Coffee is wearing off. Getting sleepy.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1119 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:38:23 AM »

Ok, this seriously ain't gonna happen tonight. It's 10:30pm and I'm about to fall asleep. I hate being old and lacking energy.

10 pages done today in about 6 hours with breaks. If I actually start in the morning tomorrow (instead of at 4:30pm like today), I could probably do the remaining 15 by night and then I'll just have to cut back on one of my outlining/studying days for editing a final version out of it and turning it in.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1120 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:40:32 AM »

sent of a few emails about applying for a summer NSERC research award. This kind of thing makes me nervous. :'( also I only got like 500 words done after a day of working on this essay. :'( :'( :'(

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1121 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:17:02 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 01:17:10 AM

I got it down to:
Quote
“Charles P. McDowell…studied the 1,218 reports of rape that were made between 1980 and 1984 on Air Force bases throughout the world (McDowell, 1985). Of those, 460 were found to be "proven"…Another 212 of the total reports were found to be "disproved" as the alleged victim convincingly admitted the complaint was a "hoax" at some point during the initial investigation. The researchers then investigated the 546 remaining or "unresolved" rape allegations including having the accusers submit to a polygraph. Twenty-seven percent (27%) of these complainants admitted they had fabricated their accusation just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test…Combining this 27% with the initial 212 "disproved" cases, it was determined that approximately 45% of the total rape allegations were false”

But I think I'm just gonna say a large % of rape cases are based on false claims[1] and throw all that in a footnote at the bottom.

This seems like an unrepresentative sample.

And, according to our friend google, the author is biased and, possibly, a loon. Charles P. McDowell is a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who claimed that false allegations are made against "horny devils at the peak of their sexuality." He created an unscientific "rape allegation checklist" in which a score of over 16 points meant a woman's rape charge is "probably false." How are some of the points awarded? Three points for having problems with her boyfriend or husband. One point for demanding medical treatment. One point for having financial problems.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1122 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:19:01 AM »

Bebpo · « **Reply #1123 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:31:05 AM »

Cool. If my paper was about rape charges I would have to severely rethink that.

Since I was just using it as an example of how lies can put people in prison. It doesn't really matter. I just needed a source to say, yes some people lie and falsely accuse others for serious crimes. So I'll just use the 8% statistic by the government instead. Unless of course you want to dispute that as being biased and too high as well and that no one has ever actually made a false accusation in the history of mankind.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1124 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:33:52 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 06, 2009, 02:31:05 AM

Unless of course you want to dispute that as being biased and too high as well and that no one has ever actually made a false accusation in the history of mankind.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1125 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:48:04 AM »

Ok I apologize. That was not merited.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #1126 on:** December 06, 2009, 03:53:54 AM »

I thought the cost of living in DC was pretty outrageous? My sister in law and her husband live in the city and they say it's really expensive.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #1127 on:** December 06, 2009, 09:13:29 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 05, 2009, 11:44:04 PM

Also I'm kind of impressed by this new age of internet where you can put in a sentence in google and find a quote about it from the free preview pages of some book on amazon and then you have a legitimate book with all the citing information & page number & useful quote!

JSTOR annihilated

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1128 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:08:00 AM »

Quote from: distantmantra on December 06, 2009, 03:53:54 AM

I thought the cost of living in DC was pretty outrageous? My sister in law and her husband live in the city and they say it's really expensive.

I live within striking distance, I don't live downtown.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #1129 on:** December 06, 2009, 11:49:45 AM »

Quote from: Willco on December 06, 2009, 12:50:54 AM

There's a production base here (since the vast majority of non-fiction media is produced or in post-production here thanks to Discovery, Smithsonian and National Geographic), so talent and crew can be acquired in a hurry. There are a handful of decent schools/art centers that the creative people tend to revolve around. And you can usually get people to pay for your travel costs, which makes it easier to live here.

The two cheapest places to shoot in the states are Detroit and South Carolina, though.

save for perhaps the corcoran, there isn't a single decent art school in dc nor any creativity in this city.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1130 on:** December 06, 2009, 01:04:10 PM »

O shit I got an email back from a prof. already saying we should meet about the NSERC thing. awesome! His research is in using computer vision on ultrasound images to do medical diagnoses.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1131 on:** December 06, 2009, 05:15:17 PM »

Guh? Not only is there the CDIA - Boston University in Georgetown, which employs actual industry folks that I personally know, but the AFI also offers workshops for aspiring filmmakers in Silver Spring in conjunction with the AFI Silver Theater and Cultural Arts center. Which, mind you, is the only real education they offer outside of their conservatory in California, which is drool-worthy.

Hell, the fact that the AFI is even based here negates that whole argument.

Not to mention that there are several schools that offer broadcasting and filmmaking degrees within the area, including The Art Institute in Virginia.

... And as stated, the area has the largest non-fiction production base in the entire country (that's not an opinion, that's a fact) and that includes Los Angeles. I find it abhorrent that you think that a city that is the home to the Smithsonian, a handful of film societies, the AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE, etc. has "no creativity".

I won't even mention things like the Kennedy Center, which is outside of film, because you're being ignorant.

I'm going to rip this part of the topic off and jettison it to the OT so we don't ruin the topic, though.

bork · « **Reply #1132 on:** December 06, 2009, 06:07:50 PM »

Finished with all my school shit. Was pretty much done a week ago, but had one final left that the teacher didn't put up early like in the other class I was taking. Now it's done...finished in 15-20 minutes.

Probably about time to start the job hunt process; only have one class left to take next quarter.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1133 on:** December 06, 2009, 06:34:20 PM »

Finished rough draft. yay, got 26 pages of blah that will be edited into 25 pages of ok tomorrow/tues. The worst part is going to be remembering how to blue book cite everything and getting all the boring information like publisher and stuff in the cite down in the footnotes. At least I have some model papers to refer to in terms of how you cite it all. I must have cited 30+ things by the end of that. On my draft I just threw the full cite in the paper after each quote and figure I'd fix it after. So either moving them all to the footnotes will make my paper shorter or make it longer (I've heard footnote margins can really increase the length of your paper). Either way I've got an extra page to spare and I could also write a tiny bit more if I'm coming up short. If it's longer well that's good because I can cut a ton out of my paper and make it a better paper.

Quote from: the lyte edge™ on December 06, 2009, 06:07:50 PM

Finished with all my school shit. Was pretty much done a week ago, but had one final left that the teacher didn't put up early like in the other class I was taking. Now it's done...finished in 15-20 minutes. Probably about time to start the job hunt process; only have one class left to take next quarter.

Awesome. Congrats! Now you have some free time to musou it up

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #1134 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:51:03 PM »

I missed the new Hall of Shame thread because I went to the movies.........to see Brothers :'(

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #1135 on:** December 06, 2009, 07:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on December 06, 2009, 07:56:06 PM

Hey, did I miss some really good drama?

The best. We were a cunt hair away from vag pics :'(

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1136 on:** December 06, 2009, 09:56:26 PM »

my mom bought a Wii today.

time to buy a usb hard drive hooooooooooooooooooooo

brawndolicious · « **Reply #1137 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:03:18 PM »

So basically what happened was that captainbiotch cybered with cyanista, he got caught by his estranged baby momma, she broke a bunch of shit, he hit her, went to jail, and now she was trying to screw up his online accounts? That's a pretty fucked up situation for the baby.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1138 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:29:46 PM »

I'm wondering what Cyanista has to say bout' all this

cool breeze · « **Reply #1139 on:** December 06, 2009, 10:45:40 PM »

I'm just now going through that thread. It's pretty awesome.

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