Author Topic: Real talk: Was the Dreamcast really THAT good? (Read 9577 times)

Christopher · « **on:** December 14, 2006, 02:00:47 PM »

Yes it was.

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:01:01 PM »

COSMIC SMASH

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:04:13 PM »

Dreamcast started off strong, and I was sad to see Sega, well, pull a Sega at the first sign of adversity. OH NO COMPETITION PACK IT UP BOYS.

SegaNet was ahead of its time. Phantasy Star Online, NFL2K1 and all the other titles I played online made for a great experience. Skies of Arcadia made the DC purchase worth it alone. Not to mention other great titles like Soul Calibur, Power Stone, the great arcade ports (MvC2!), etc.

Christopher · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:05:26 PM »

so true...

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:06:07 PM »

I really need to buy Skies of Arcadia Legends.

Himu · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:06:25 PM »

It still has games being made for it today.

How much better is Legends over the original?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:07:42 PM »

Virtua Tennis and Soul Calibur are possibly the only universally loved games amongst my friends in my entire life. Not one person didn't like those games. Dreamcast lived a short but sweet life. Well, it lived for about four good years in my house because of those two games alone.

Christopher · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:07:54 PM »

Well I only started with Legends I never got around to it on DC, and it was still a fantastic game. THAT is how a Zelda should be in terms of characters Himuro, such fantastic characters and settings.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:08:32 PM »

I've never played any version of Skies of Arcadia.

Bacon · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:08:42 PM »

It was pretty good. You forgot the Shenmue box btw. Shenmue is my favorite DC game.

I own Legends for GC.

demi · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:12:12 PM »

Hell yeah, Dreamcast rocked

I had all these games for it:

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:12:18 PM »

Skies of Arcadia is an amazing game. My friend let me borrow his DC in 2002 and I loved it. <3

I've always wanted to check out Legends, but I don't know. I just never have. I'll give it a try someday, but for some reason playing Dreamcast games on non-DC consoles just feels like an injustice.

Shenmue II Xbox really dulled that experience for me I think. It just didn't have that same magic.

What makes me sad about Dreamcast the most is that I wasn't there when it needed me. I was a Playstation cigarillo then and I completely hated Sega for what they did with the Saturn at the time and I was too busy playing Final fantasy Fucking IX and prepping for the ps2 to give DC a chance. And here I am playing these wonderful games years after they came out, still amazed, and I kinda hit my head against the wall.

It really sucked back then, not being able to afford more than one game system. If I had the money I would have gotten a DC in a heart beat.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:12:45 PM »

I really loved Shenmue when it came out. The graphics were HOLY SHIT OMG and the freedom was really cool.

I couldn't finish Shenmue II though. I think the tedium of the series got to me only by the second installment.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:13:26 PM »

Himuro, you killed Sega.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #14 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:13:55 PM »

My mom saw me play Shenmue and

'd. She was like, "Your father is dead and all you do is play with kittens and buy toys, what an ungrateful son!"

demi · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:14:12 PM »

Yeah, Himuro's pretty hypocritical.

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:16:26 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:13:26 PM

Himuro, you killed Sega.

Shut up.

You know, I was going to get a Saturn instead of Playstation back in the day. I got a psx in 1997, and by that time the Saturn was basically or almost dead. I really wanted to support Sega, but then here was this awesome new machine called the Playstation and it had this game called Final Fantasy VII with omg graphix! I'm a traitor. And then in fucking 1998, right after I got a playstation Sega releases a new system in Japan?! Fuck that. That pisses me off so much I had a vendetta against Sega for the longest.

I don't get what you mean by tedium Cajole. The sequal is far less tedious than the original, in fact, I could throw you some tips. When I replayed Shenmue II the first time I got about 100,000 Hong Kong dollars. That was enough to last me the whole game, so you don't have to go to work or anything.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #17 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:20:43 PM »

Well, I got an import or burned version from my friend...I don't even remember. The load times were utterly horrendous. I don't know if that was because the disc was fucked up or because that's how the game really was. What I remember quitting on was a QTE event that I apparently sucked at and I kept falling and every fucking time it would have to load again. I just stopped playing then. Maybe I should rent the Xbox version one day, but I doubt I will.

And Himuro, I guess I was the opposite of you back then. I was anti-Sony. I still say the N64 was better than the PSX, but that's because I'm not a RPG fan at all. I refused to buy a PS2 for a while only because it killed Dreamcast. $:-\$

I'm glad I'm not distinguished mentally-challenged anymore.

Bacon · « **Reply #18 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:21:02 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 14, 2006, 02:12:12 PM

Hell yeah, Dreamcast rocked

I had all these games for it:

(Image removed from quote.)

lol yeah. I had access to an FTP with EVERY DC game. I still bought stuff like Shenmue though. I stole Fire Pro D.

Himu · « **Reply #19 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:21:55 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

And Himuro, I guess I was the opposite of you back then. I was anti-Sony. I still say the N64 was better than the PSX, but that's because I'm not a RPG fan at all. I refused to buy a PS2 for a while only because it killed Dreamcast. $:-\$

I'm glad I'm not distinguished mentally-challenged anymore.

Exactly. This is why I want to have all the consoles I can, because when I was a fucking console distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I was missing out on great shit and I was hating on them for inane reasons.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #20 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:22:14 PM »

Best game was Chu Chu rocket.

I want wii version now.

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:24:56 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

What I remember quitting on was a QTE event that I apparently sucked at and I kept falling and every fucking time it would have to load again. I just stopped playing then. Maybe I should rent the Xbox version one day, but I doubt I will.

Yeah thee's this part where you have to walk like 6+ floors of WOODEN PLANKS and it's non stop QTE. My trick there was that I would save when I reached a floor and if I fell I'd reload.

Christopher · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:26:06 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 14, 2006, 02:21:55 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

And Himuro, I guess I was the opposite of you back then. I was anti-Sony. I still say the N64 was better than the PSX, but that's because I'm not a RPG fan at all. I refused to buy a PS2 for a while only because it killed Dreamcast. $:-\$

I'm glad I'm not distinguished mentally-challenged anymore.

Exactly. This is why I want to have all the consoles I can, because when I was a fucking console distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I was missing out on great shit and I was hating on them for inane reasons.

much like you hate the PSX3 because "graphics aren't everything" you know there is a such thing as *gasp* good graphics AND good gameplay, you need to ease off that N-Cock dude.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:27:22 PM »

Quote from: Christopher on December 14, 2006, 02:26:06 PM

much like you hate the PSX3 because "graphics aren't everything" you know there is a such thing as *gasp* good graphics AND good gameplay, you need to ease off that N-Cock dude.

Huh? I follow systems that have the games and ps3 really doesn't have games that interest me, and it's direction interests me even less.

Did I ever say I wasn't going to get a ps3? No. I will get one eventually, but for the price of 500-600 dollars, ps3 just isn't worth that value duder. And rofl @ "N-cock" when I want a 360 baddddddddd.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #24 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:27:31 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 14, 2006, 02:21:55 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

And Himuro, I guess I was the opposite of you back then. I was anti-Sony. I still say the N64 was better than the PSX, but that's because I'm not a RPG fan at all. I refused to buy a PS2 for a while only because it killed Dreamcast. $:-\$

I'm glad I'm not distinguished mentally-challenged anymore.

Exactly. This is why I want to have all the consoles I can, because when I was a fucking console distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I was missing out on great shit and I was hating on them for inane reasons.

I've actually been able to state for a few years now that the PS2 was the best console, but I never felt like spending the money on it and I was happy enough with my Gamecube. Now that I'm playing games a lot again I needed a PS2.

Oh shit, I never thought of that, Himuro. It's still utterly distinguished mentally-challenged though.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #25 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:30:08 PM »

RPG and fighters really aren't that important to me, if there's one good enough, I'll get the console of choice to get my fix - so the N64 won the PSX/N64/Saturn era in my opinion. PSX had a way more diverse library with far better AA games to play, but the N64 had so many great AAA titles that I really just loved that console. PS2 handed GameCube its butt on a platter, though and the Xbox started strong and died way too quick to make way for the 360.

Wobedraggled · « **Reply #26 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:30:30 PM »

Dreamcast fucking ROCKED.

Part of my sony hate stems from them putting that final nail in the Sega coffin.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:30:52 PM »

Agreed, Willco.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:31:41 PM »

I rememebr thinking about the possibilities of the VMU and my little 13 year old head almost exploded.

"you mean you can play your dreamcast games on the go. just like gameboy!!"

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:32:02 PM »

VMU - talk about a gimmick.

Himu · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:32:51 PM »

bubububt YOU CAN PLAY WITH SONIC ADVENTURE 2 CHAOS

Christopher · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:34:08 PM »

fuck the gay choas, the action stages where were it was at.

Sonic Adventure One

what a fun game to play at that time, aweomse stuff

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:34:43 PM »

My friend and I tried playing Virtua Tennis by looking at the VMUs once. What a fucking joke.

And Chris, Sonic Adventure was probably my least played game I got for Christmas that year. NFL2k, NBA2k and Soul Calibur all rocked my face off.

I was so spoiled.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:35:04 PM »

Sonic Adventure blew. I'll never understand the love. You can beat the entire game by pressing the control stick forward.

It was a pretty tech demo, though.

Christopher · « **Reply #34 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:36:33 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:34:43 PM

My friend and I tried playing Virtua Tennis by looking at the VMUs once. What a fucking joke.

And Chris, Sonic Adventure was probably my least played game I got for Christmas that year. NFL2k, NBA2k and Soul Calibur all rocked my face off.

I was so spoiled.

Quote from: Willco on December 14, 2006, 02:35:04 PM

Sonic Adventure blew. I'll never understand the love. You can beat the entire game by pressing the control stick forward.

It was a pretty tech demo, though.

TSC TSC PAPANGUS

I thought it was fun $:-\$

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #35 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:37:15 PM »

PRESS FORWARD

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #36 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:37:43 PM »

HIT THE BOXES

oops wrong game

Himu · « **Reply #37 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:40:05 PM »

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #38 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:42:29 PM »

Jet Grind Radio is one of the most overrated DC games ever.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #39 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:43:57 PM »

Quote from: Willco on December 14, 2006, 02:42:29 PM

Jet Grind Radio is one of the most overrated DC games ever.

Once again, agreed. I really tried hard to like it, too.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #40 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:44:27 PM »

omg teh cel shades

Himu · « **Reply #41 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:44:31 PM »

Nope.

Hellll no.

Nope.

Wtf Willco? I'm trying to absorb what you just posted. Nope. I'm still not feeling it.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #42 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:45:25 PM »

The music sucked.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #43 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:45:57 PM »

Gameplay was wonked too.

Not a fun game.

C-, would not play again.

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:46:32 PM »

Do you like arcade gameplay and timers? I don't know. For someone who loves point systems, timers, and awesome and inventive settings, music, premises Jet Set Radio comes up on top. There are few as creative as Jet Set imo.

It was short, I can beat in like one sitting. But the replay value is omg.

Cyanista · « **Reply #45 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:46:42 PM »

Dreamcast has been my favorite console to date.

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:47:39 PM »

Cyanista what's your avatar from?

Christopher · « **Reply #47 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:47:51 PM »

Do you not remember THE whale...blah I am easily amuzed

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #48 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:47:58 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 14, 2006, 02:46:32 PM

Do you like arcade gameplay and timers? I don't know. For someone who loves point systems, timers, and awesome and inventive settings, music, premises Jet Set Radio comes up on top. There are few as creative as Jet Set imo.

It was short, I can beat in like one sitting. But the replay value is omg.

What a japafag. $:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #49 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:49:29 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:47:58 PM

Quote from: Himuro on December 14, 2006, 02:46:32 PM
Do you like arcade gameplay and timers? I don't know. For someone who loves point systems, timers, and awesome and inventive settings, music, premises Jet Set Radio comes up on top. There are few as creative as Jet Set imo.

It was short, I can beat in like one sitting. But the replay value is omg.

What a japafag. $:-\$

Cut me some slack Cajole. The game reminds me of the Warriors. If the game was in an American setting it'd just as awesome.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #50 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:51:55 PM »

Quote from: Christopher on December 14, 2006, 02:47:51 PM

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Do you not remember THE whale...blah I am easily amuzed

Yeah, the hardest part of that level was pressing the following combo to defeat the whale:

^
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Cyanista · « **Reply #51 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:52:45 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on December 14, 2006, 02:47:39 PM

Cyanista what's your avatar from?

No one lives forever. <3 Cate

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #52 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:52:58 PM »

I really have to check out The Warriors.

Willco

Himu · « **Reply #53 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:58:38 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2006, 02:52:58 PM

I really have to check out The Warriors.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #54 on:** December 14, 2006, 02:59:29 PM »

I meant the game.

Himu · « **Reply #55 on:** December 14, 2006, 03:00:48 PM »

Highly underrated. $:-\$

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #56 on:** December 14, 2006, 04:27:48 PM »

Although I love to make fun of Sega, it's really just a byproduct of two things:

1) It's just so damn EASY when they keep doing incredibly stupid shit
2) The irrational Sega love over at OA makes it easy to rile that crowd up

...I will admit to being a Sega fanboy in the early stages of my videogame life. We're talking Master System and Genny, here. In retrospect I can admit that overall the SNES was superior, but MAN did I love my Genny back in the day.

Since the first couple years of the Genesis, though, Sega has pretty much consistently done EVERYTHING wrong, except for the Dreamcast launch and first year or two. But by that point no one gave a shit anymore. Sega will never recover from going 3rd party, and it's a damn shame. Honestly, though, they deserve to die for Shenmue alone. Christ that game is fucking awful.

Cyanista · « **Reply #57 on:** December 14, 2006, 04:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Willco on December 14, 2006, 02:42:29 PM

Jet Grind Radio is one of the most overrated DC games ever.

You are like that guy who says the opposite of everything that's true.

Tigerriot · « **Reply #58 on:** December 14, 2006, 04:44:41 PM »

The Dreamcast overall was not that great IMO, but it did have about 20-30 games that were very good and well worth owning.

I still own mine.

My personal favorites where Virtua Tennis, Crazy Taxi, Powerstone 1/2, Jet Grind Radio, F355 Ferrari, Sega Rally 2, Bass Fighing, Sega Marine Fishing, and Chu Chu Rocket.

Himu · « **Reply #59 on:** December 14, 2006, 04:45:50 PM »

Quote from: Tigerriot on December 14, 2006, 04:44:41 PM

The Dreamcast overall was not that great IMO, but it did have about 20-30 games that were very good and well worth owning.

......

Considering the amount of time DC was out, that SHOULD be great. Most consoles that were out the amount of time DC was usually have only 10-15 worthwhile games, and that's MAXIMUM.

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Author Topic: Real talk: Was the Dreamcast really THAT good? (Read 9577 times)