Author Topic: BARRY WHEELER: THE VIDEOGAME (guest starring Alan Wake) discussion (Read 42514 times)

Third · « **Reply #480 on:** June 01, 2010, 11:05:32 AM »

I also finished one chapter every two days. Finishing more than one chapter at a time is really too much.
Games can't entertain me for longer than two hours. I really get bored by a game when I play it for longer than two hours. $:-\$

And I really can't wait for the sequel. I hope MS will fund a whole trilogy.

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Hoping that Barry dies a slow and painful death during the first scene of the next game.

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #481 on:** June 01, 2010, 12:07:08 PM »

I finished this up yesterday.

Overall I enjoyed it. Mainly because I think their execution on theme and story and horror was well done and I'm a massive horror fan in general. If I was less of a fan of the genre I think I would probably like the game a good deal less in much the same way that I was never much of a Max Payne fan.

Like I said the best thing about the game is the atmosphere and tone. When you are out walking in the woods and you are not sure of what is going to happen next, the game works really well. When they set up some of the scripted little set pieces the game also works extremely well.

Where the game is less enjoyable is when it sort of focuses on the combat too much. There are times where I wish it was more adventure game rather than action game simply because the combat isn't varied very much. I mean they try to pace it differently and set it up differently but essentially it all feels the same and ther isn't much variety to the tactics. You've seen everything the game has to offer combat wise by Chapter 2 but you still keep on doing the same stuff to the same enemies for the entire game.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the game shouldn't have combat. It should. I just think the game as a whole would function better with a slightly lesser balance on combat and raise the puzzle solving, environment exploring aspect of the game more.

On the whole though I enjoyed it and was compelled to finish it which doesn't always happen for me. There is sort of an artsy and at times adult element going on here that I like. I think Microsoft is in sort of an interesting/weird spot here. This game definitely is not a "blockbuster" in the sales sense of the word. The game really has more niche appeal than anything. It's not something I can see the mainstream of consumers who buy games really liking too much. So I'm curious to see whether they fund the next game. I think one of the things MS drops the ball on in comparison to Sony is that they really feel every game they make (publish) has to be a sales blockbuster. If it isn't they quickly tend to cut it. I think that is a bit short sighted. I think a console needs a wider portfolio of games than just the big hits.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #482 on:** June 01, 2010, 12:16:19 PM »

I'm looking forward to the DLC. Hopefully there's some Barry fanfic.

Barry Wheeler.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #483 on:** June 01, 2010, 02:49:44 PM »

Oh man now I see why you guys love Barry, just completed Chapter 4.

Third · « **Reply #484 on:** June 01, 2010, 03:04:41 PM »

So, am I the only one who hates Barry? $:-\$

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #485 on:** June 01, 2010, 03:21:03 PM »

You honestly didn't laugh when he's chilling in the car with the cut out in the backseat?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #486 on:** June 01, 2010, 05:29:52 PM »

went back to deadly premonition, and its tragic how much better dp seems after alan wake

dp has actual characters and a plot that isn't an "homage" to the worst of the genre, and is so wonderfully insane i'm willing to endure its terrible camera and controls to find out what happens next -- which in a survival/adventure game, is absolutely essential

the second chapter (of dp) cutscene where they find the body of the raincoat killer's second victim was leaps more impactful and "artistic" than any moment in alan wake's graphically superior suite of canned moments

alan wake was a pretty romp and very polished in the gameplay bits -- can't say the same for the terrible cutscenes -- but it was glued together with a sort of anti-vision -- a facile mashup of cliches, focus group input, audience overthink, and generally narrow perspective on the genre. dp may be ugly as sin and control like a neurological disorder, but DAMN if it isn't an original, engaging, and really well-considered horror-esque experience. francis york morgan is probably the best protagonist in any game ever.

demi · « **Reply #487 on:** June 01, 2010, 08:06:03 PM »

So basically Alan Wake and DP are both good games, cool

cool breeze · « **Reply #488 on:** June 01, 2010, 08:42:45 PM »

I think false expectations led to disappointments, if anything. The story and writing was the same hokey stuff from Max Payne and I went into it knowing it was a linear shooter type game. The only thing I didn't expect was the poor pacing and just how much combat was a focus, otherwise, it met my moderate expectations. Granted, I didn't see the brightfall (those live action prequel videos) until after I finished and it does have a very different tone from the actual game.

"Logic is such a liar." -- actual line from the Max Payne games

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #489 on:** June 01, 2010, 09:02:57 PM »

They really should've just cut out the combat total. Or done more with the town instead of the woods.

Ichirou · « **Reply #490 on:** June 01, 2010, 09:03:57 PM »

The writing in the Max Payne games read as what it was - a European guy unsuccessfully trying to ape Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler. I imagine Alan Wake's writing reads as what it is - that same European guy trying to ape Stephen King.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #491 on:** June 01, 2010, 09:30:05 PM »

What does Bright Falls have to do with the game anyways besides sharing some characters? Is it just showing how one gets consumed by the darkness?

demi · « **Reply #492 on:** June 01, 2010, 09:59:34 PM »

Quote from: Methodis the Incorrigible! on June 01, 2010, 09:30:05 PM

What does Bright Falls have to do with the game anyways besides sharing some characters? Is it just showing how one gets consumed by the darkness?

It just sets up the premise

demi · « **Reply #493 on:** June 01, 2010, 10:06:50 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 01, 2010, 09:30:23 PM

Quote from: demi on June 01, 2010, 08:06:03 PM
So basically Alan Wake and DP are both good games, cool

Thanks for the copy, demi.

daddy gets what daddy wants

Ichirou · « **Reply #494 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:27:07 AM »

Japafags

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #495 on:** June 02, 2010, 10:17:59 AM »

the characters are intentionally insane, and the plotting is definitely a cut above alan wake

think david lynch fanfic versus dean koontz fanfic

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #496 on:** June 02, 2010, 12:14:44 PM »

Yeah, the people who said Alan Wake is Twin Peaks the video game are some of the dumbest things ever. The only thing it shares is just Alan Wake stealing plot devices blatantly.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #497 on:** June 02, 2010, 12:14:54 PM »

Also how scary is DP?

demi · « **Reply #498 on:** June 02, 2010, 03:35:42 PM »

Uh, I've never seen Alan Wake tossed as Twin Peaks game. Maybe initially, but the final result is nothing but.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #499 on:** June 02, 2010, 03:59:29 PM »

Just beat it, worst fucking ending ever.

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Way to be a selfish tool Alan

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #500 on:** June 02, 2010, 06:59:35 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 02, 2010, 02:06:41 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on June 02, 2010, 10:17:59 AM
the characters are intentionally insane, and the plotting is definitely a cut above alan wake

think david lynch fanfic versus dean koontz fanfic

One of the reasons I love Alan Wake is the guy's constant narration of his actions. I find it hilariously awful.

It reminds me of Dexter lol

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #501 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:17:59 PM »

The Twin Peaks connection never really came through outside of the notion that it is a TV show. The major and consistent and clear influence all the way throughout clearly was Stephen King.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #502 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:25:37 PM »

Uhhhh....

demi · « **Reply #503 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:27:25 PM »

Nope, still dont see it

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #504 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:29:42 PM »

I was going to mention her but decided not to because one crazy lady in and of itself doesn't really point to a wholesale notion of Twin Peaks. Crazy old weird lady in town is equally as common in a Stephen King novel.

I definitely heard Twin Peaks referenced a lot in relation to Alan Wake before the game came out. Sometimes from Remedy I think and sometimes from journalists. What I'm saying is that for the most part it really doesn't exist too much in the actual game. At least for the signature weirdness Twin Peaks is known for. In that sense DP is much more clearly and directly referencing Twin Peaks.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #505 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:40:43 PM »

It seemed like a weird blend of Twin Peaks and Stephen King/Dean Koontz pulp to me (I've read my fair share of both). There was obviously someone on the writing staff that had read The Dark Half.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #506 on:** June 02, 2010, 08:40:47 PM »

She's called Lamp Lady, in twin Peaks she's called Log Lady. They both hold a lamp like that. They both share the major plot device to their story.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #507 on:** June 02, 2010, 10:38:21 PM »

Quote from: Methodis the Incorrigible! on June 02, 2010, 08:40:47 PM

She's called Lamp Lady, in twin Peaks she's called Log Lady. They both hold a lamp like that. They both share the major plot device to their story.

I'm still not quite sure I understand. There are many lamps in this world and logs as well and people hold both of them frequently

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #508 on:** June 02, 2010, 11:50:59 PM »

They've announced a third chapter DLC for this btw.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/03/alan-wake-dlc-pack-3-hitting-later-this-year/

Hopefully these are real chapter length DLC rather than just 20 minute DLC fluff.

And hopefully they aren't like the last chapter in the game proper which was the worst chapter imo.

maxy · « **Reply #509 on:** June 05, 2010, 02:29:49 AM »

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #510 on:** June 05, 2010, 05:20:19 PM »

Ignore that third DLC post. Apparently it was just a misunderstanding.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/06/05/remedy-calls-third-dlc-pack-for-alan-wake-a-misunderstanding/#more-98860

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #511 on:** June 05, 2010, 06:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on June 02, 2010, 10:38:21 PM

Quote from: Methodis the Incorrigible! on June 02, 2010, 08:40:47 PM
She's called Lamp Lady, in twin Peaks she's called Log Lady. They both hold a lamp like that. They both share the major plot device to their story.

I'm still not quite sure I understand. There are many lamps in this world and logs as well and people hold both of them frequently

There's a achievement after the most popular catch phrase in Twin Peaks...

maxy · « **Reply #512 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:44:36 AM »

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maxy · « **Reply #513 on:** June 18, 2010, 06:19:47 AM »

DLC pricing

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Remedy's imperiled author sim, Alan Wake, will be extended in two downloadable episodes later this year, with the first set to launch on July 27th. Entitled "The Signal," the first add-on is available free to players who purchased the game new. We met up with Remedy's Head of Franchise Development, Oskari Hakkinen, and ascertained that the episode -- which should last around 90 minutes -- will cost 560 MS Points ($7) on the Xbox Live Marketplace to those who purchased the game sans shrinkwrap.

The second downloadable episode, "The Writer," will also cost 560 MS points ($7). According to Hakkinen, the $10 price seen within Alan Wake's DLC menu was meant to be a placeholder.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/17/alan-wake-dlc-episodes-priced-at-7-each/

MCD · « **Reply #514 on:** June 29, 2010, 03:21:36 AM »

shit game.

demi · « **Reply #515 on:** July 04, 2010, 11:24:29 PM »

Hey I never hated it you fuck puppet

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #516 on:** July 06, 2010, 02:02:20 PM »

When are we getting the DLC, i'm actually scratching to play more of this game (i'm mostly a xbox 360 gamer again now)

The Sceneman · « **Reply #517 on:** July 06, 2010, 08:05:34 PM »

July 27th. Ive been meaning to run through it again on Nightmare for the collectibles, but Ive been playing nothing but RDR and Puzzle Quest

demi · « **Reply #518 on:** July 06, 2010, 11:37:29 PM »

Barry Wheeler: Plump Fuckpuppet of New York

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #519 on:** July 08, 2010, 02:31:54 PM »

Quote from: a slime appears on June 02, 2010, 08:19:14 AM

That's a lot of words for "I like wacky jappy horror more!"

SMH

You will shut your face now

DP >>>>>>>>> Alan Wake

MCD · « **Reply #520 on:** July 10, 2010, 12:20:34 AM »

scary games are garbage, glad alan wake isn't one.

and btw, nightmare is no more harder than hard.

MCD · « **Reply #521 on:** July 10, 2010, 12:30:28 PM »

perhaps with more enemy designs like a dog or something this can be achieved in alan wake, the enemies here are basically shooting or flashlight practice.

instead of the tornado, maybe something like RE3's Nemesis that chases you on numerous occasions.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #522 on:** July 12, 2010, 02:18:42 PM »

Wow that final boss was uhh....not entirely challenging

demi · « **Reply #523 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:16:45 PM »

DLC achievements are on xbox.com

The Sceneman · « **Reply #524 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:50:05 PM »

any more collectibles?

MCD · « **Reply #525 on:** July 13, 2010, 12:54:13 AM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on July 12, 2010, 10:50:05 PM

any more collectibles?

wouldn't be alan wake without them.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #526 on:** July 13, 2010, 06:02:21 PM »

lol, like 4 new kinds of collectibles judging from the cheevs. I'll wait for a guide before I run through the DLC. An extra 250 points, cool. This game dishes out gamerscore like candy!

Free DLC

I'd better finish my Nightmare run and mop up the main 1000 soon.

maxy · « **Reply #527 on:** July 26, 2010, 11:51:56 AM »

Spoilers inside...obviously

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-alan-wake-the-signal/17-2962/

Brad is playing
...under 400 MB download
...for $7 it's extremely impressive dlc
...pretty long,lots of new stuff
...harder than the game...he never played the game on Nightmare though

SantaC · « **Reply #528 on:** July 27, 2010, 04:11:55 AM »

the game is too repetitive and isnt scary at all. After killing the same shadow dudes for 5-6 hours I was pretty bored. That forest is pretty damn empty.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #529 on:** July 27, 2010, 11:08:43 AM »

Yes it's out right now!

I LOVE THIS GAME

The Sceneman · « **Reply #530 on:** July 27, 2010, 05:23:29 PM »

Im gonna wait until someone does a collectible guide before I play this DLC.

Still have to get aorund to finishing my Nightmare/all collectibles run

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #531 on:** July 27, 2010, 05:39:35 PM »

It's awesome. Especially if you love Barry. Barry brings his A game.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #532 on:** July 27, 2010, 05:40:47 PM »

I didnt *love* Barry, but hes pretty sweet, especially later in the game where he gets his xmas lights

You get to play as him in this expansion?

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #533 on:** July 27, 2010, 05:56:22 PM »

I havent got to play as him so far, but he shows up in his christmas lights a million times throughout and throws some one liners.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #534 on:** July 27, 2010, 06:08:28 PM »

haha, sweet! I'll DL it when I get home. Ive got the code to get the DLC for free

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #535 on:** July 27, 2010, 06:11:08 PM »

Yeah you dont get to play with him. Think of the DLC as a "best of" of the first game, it's all the same locations and enemies (except one new enemy) and the story is confusing, but it's worth the free dl for barry.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #536 on:** July 27, 2010, 06:12:45 PM »

and the gamerscore

cool breeze · « **Reply #537 on:** July 28, 2010, 01:55:59 PM »

The signal DLC is awesome. So far I'm liking it more than the main Alan Wake game.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #538 on:** July 28, 2010, 02:13:19 PM »

How the fuck is that even possible when it's snippets of the main game put together?

The Sceneman · « **Reply #539 on:** July 28, 2010, 04:50:37 PM »

becuase the snippets are more well put together?!!?

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Author Topic: BARRY WHEELER: THE VIDEOGAME (guest starring Alan Wake) discussion (Read 42514 times)