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Re: The Outside Link Thread (All Your GAF, OA, SA, YouTube, etc. Links Go In Her
« Reply #2820 on: January 31, 2010, 03:02:15 PM »
I don't think I hate anything more than Final Fantasy. Not even the Holocaust or Avatar. The day Square-Enix stops making Final Fantasy games is the day I become so over-excited that I let demi pummel my asshole.

Because the worst part about Final Fantasy - unlike the Holocaust or Avatar - is that it will never end. There will always been another one, with the same demographic of intense geeks "frothing" for more. And it will be met with the same mixed reviews and complaints, with everyone always comparing it to the cartridge or PSX classics, but they'll take for all its faults because it satisfies some weird, carnal desire for "serios animu".

My disdain for the series is only rivaled by Triumph's hate for comic book movies.

I don't get why you care so much? I can't stand WWII games or super realistic military FPS games (and there's no end in sight to them either), but I don't go around complaining every second and try to berate everyone who plays the games to try and look cool or what have you. Granted most of the recent FF series and their spinoffs are pretty flawed (though I wouldn't go as far to say they are horrible games) but that's besides the point.
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I avoided Tim Rogers since his write up of Metal Gear Solid 2.  Once I saw his picture, it reminded me of those annoying androgynous twee fuckwits that blasted garbage music in my TAG seminar class.

I don't get worked up over Final Fantasy.  By now, the series is pure wankery which has reached Mega Man and Bomberman stages of milking.
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« Reply #2822 on: January 31, 2010, 03:26:39 PM »
I don't think I hate anything more than Final Fantasy. Not even the Holocaust or Avatar. The day Square-Enix stops making Final Fantasy games is the day I become so over-excited that I let demi pummel my asshole.

Because the worst part about Final Fantasy - unlike the Holocaust or Avatar - is that it will never end. There will always been another one, with the same demographic of intense geeks "frothing" for more. And it will be met with the same mixed reviews and complaints, with everyone always comparing it to the cartridge or PSX classics, but they'll take for all its faults because it satisfies some weird, carnal desire for "serios animu".

My disdain for the series is only rivaled by Triumph's hate for comic book movies.

I don't get why you care so much? I can't stand WWII games or super realistic military FPS games (and there's no end in sight to them either), but I don't go around complaining every second and try to berate everyone who plays the games to try and look cool or what have you. Granted most of the recent FF series and their spinoffs are pretty flawed (though I wouldn't go as far to say they are horrible games) but that's besides the point.

People who constantly berate stuff they claim they don't care about come off as self loathing.  I mean, in the context of getting into an argument because it could be stimulating I understand.  But otherwise I can't figure why anyone would develop their rhetoric to things they don't relate to unless its good ol fashioned deflection.
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« Reply #2823 on: January 31, 2010, 03:32:43 PM »
I don't think I hate anything more than Final Fantasy. Not even the Holocaust or Avatar. The day Square-Enix stops making Final Fantasy games is the day I become so over-excited that I let demi pummel my asshole.

Because the worst part about Final Fantasy - unlike the Holocaust or Avatar - is that it will never end. There will always been another one, with the same demographic of intense geeks "frothing" for more. And it will be met with the same mixed reviews and complaints, with everyone always comparing it to the cartridge or PSX classics, but they'll take for all its faults because it satisfies some weird, carnal desire for "serios animu".

My disdain for the series is only rivaled by Triumph's hate for comic book movies.

I don't get why you care so much? I can't stand WWII games or super realistic military FPS games (and there's no end in sight to them either), but I don't go around complaining every second and try to berate everyone who plays the games to try and look cool or what have you. Granted most of the recent FF series and their spinoffs are pretty flawed (though I wouldn't go as far to say they are horrible games) but that's besides the point.

People who constantly berate stuff they claim they don't care about come off as self loathing.  I mean, in the context of getting into an argument because it could be stimulating I understand.  But otherwise I can't figure why anyone would develop their rhetoric to things they don't relate to unless its good ol fashioned deflection.

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I don't get this internet phenomenon where any criticism of something is a sign of some kind of psychological problem or has some kind of harebrained agenda.
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I don't think it's really any sort of criticism, just complaining that the series keeps getting made. (a cash-cow keeps on getting exploited for more money? Big surprise there). There's nothing wrong with any sort of criticism, but constantly obsessing over why don't like something is a bit odd.

That said, I'm reading the abdn review of FF13, and it's quite improved from the Tim Rogers reviews I checked out a few years back. At least it discusses the game and its gameplay (in painstaking detail), instead of being vignettes of life living in Japan and pretending to have conversations with random gaming industry luminaries.
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What do you think about the pummeling your asshole part?

Sure, but by the time Final Fantasy stops getting made I'll hopefully be less than 200lbs. I don't even think you'd want to.

You'll be 0lbs since your bones would have already turned to dust.

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I'd be curious to see how they handle the titling of Final Fantasy 30.
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« Reply #2827 on: January 31, 2010, 04:09:45 PM »
I'd be curious to see how they handle the titling of Final Fantasy 30.
Didn't Uematsu once upon a time write porn music?  :hump :hump :hump :hump :hump :hump
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« Reply #2829 on: January 31, 2010, 04:16:19 PM »
I don't get why you care so much? I can't stand WWII games or super realistic military FPS games (and there's no end in sight to them either), but I don't go around complaining every second and try to berate everyone who plays the games to try and look cool or what have you. Granted most of the recent FF series and their spinoffs are pretty flawed (though I wouldn't go as far to say they are horrible games) but that's besides the point.

Two points. I hate a specific series, not an entire genre. That just shows ignorance on your behalf, but that's nothing new. Second, I'm not berating the series and everyone who plays them to look cool. I just hate the series. If that makes me cool by proxy, so be it - I've never been one to shy away from getting my props when due. What can I say, maybe I was just ahead of my time and everyone is finally catching up.

Also, nerd sidebar: I don't necessarily hate everyone who plays Final Fantasy, but I do concede that I hate the vast majority. Most of them are shut-in jerks who can't objectively look at a game to save their lives, and develop this rabid fascination with JRPGs that fuel their stigma amongst the nerd hierarchy. I can deal with the folks that recognize that they can't help themselves (Prole) or folks that indulge in their weeaboo desires, but also recognize the flaws inherent to their interests (distant).

At any rate, Final Fantasy sucks, demi can ravage my anoos once Square-Enix goes belly up, and Tim Rogers is a chode.

That is all.
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Oh no, no loopholes. You said if they stop making Final Fantasy.
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« Reply #2831 on: January 31, 2010, 04:34:40 PM »
I don't get why you care so much? I can't stand WWII games or super realistic military FPS games (and there's no end in sight to them either), but I don't go around complaining every second and try to berate everyone who plays the games to try and look cool or what have you. Granted most of the recent FF series and their spinoffs are pretty flawed (though I wouldn't go as far to say they are horrible games) but that's besides the point.

Two points. I hate a specific series, not an entire genre. That just shows ignorance on your behalf, but that's nothing new. Second, I'm not berating the series and everyone who plays them to look cool. I just hate the series. If that makes me cool by proxy, so be it - I've never been one to shy away from getting my props when due. What can I say, maybe I was just ahead of my time and everyone is finally catching up.

Also, nerd sidebar: I don't necessarily hate everyone who plays Final Fantasy, but I do concede that I hate the vast majority. Most of them are shut-in jerks who can't objectively look at a game to save their lives, and develop this rabid fascination with JRPGs that fuel their stigma amongst the nerd hierarchy. I can deal with the folks that recognize that they can't help themselves (Prole) or folks that indulge in their weeaboo desires, but also recognize the flaws inherent to their interests (distant).

At any rate, Final Fantasy sucks, demi can ravage my anoos once Square-Enix goes belly up, and Tim Rogers is a chode.

That is all.

Hmm, okay you say you hate a specific series and not the whole genre, but your bottom nerd sidebar seems to hint otherwise (as well as many of your comments toward Japanese developed RPG series in the past). Hence, why I was accusing you of that. And I'd like to hear where else I have shown "ignorance", please. (granted, it's always seemed that you've had it out for me a bit, Willco).

Not to mention, there are a TON of people out there who can't objectively look at a game to save their lives, regardless of genre. People all have their own personal likes/dislikes... why is that really a problem for you, unless they are paid critics or tastemakers who are pushing an agenda? I could care less if some kid from Bumblefuck, OH thinks FF8 is the most perfect game in existence and all other games suck in comparison. Or same whether or not someone loves listening to Ke$ha and watching Twilight movies.

BTW, does the nerd hierarchy truly exist? Because I'm guessing Joey Guido would think we both are nerds no matter what geek-oriented interests we pursue.

And also, I fully support everything you said in the last line (with the caveat that the FFs are all the ones after 9)  ;)
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Fuck yes the nerd hierarchy exists
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« Reply #2833 on: January 31, 2010, 04:47:06 PM »
Considering I've gone on record that I'd like a Skies of Arcadia sequel, and that you can probably find posts from me referencing purchases of Square-Enix, Atlus and Sega software, it'd be pretty difficult to peg me as someone who hates an entire genre.

So yeah, it's ignorant when you go, "I hate all first-person shooters! Argh!" versus "I hate a specific series!"

What is true is my opinion is that the industry and the genre, by and large, has fallen far behind. Square-Enix (and their rabid fans) have failed to recognize this. That's why all that's left is their core Japanese audience and a dwindling amount of Americans - because video games have moved the fuck on.

What's worse is that instead of expanding the target audience, the Japanese continue to focus the niche genre inwards to further isolate themselves from exposure. All the obnoxious wacky jappy qualities of JRPGs seemed to have been amplified, in a move reminiscent of the comic book industry; to hell with growth, let your diehard constituency revel in its own filth until the money well runs dry!

(Although this is up to debate, because some have stated that JRPGs were never truly popular in America.)

Yes, the nerd hierarchy exists and yes, Final Fantasy fans are placed somewhere above Dragonball Z fans, but somewhere below Pokemon fans in social acceptance.
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Definitely a much more insightful response in that post, Willco. Didn't know you actually liked some of the games, must've missed those posts, mah bad. And any fan of Skies of Arcadia is good people. But the FF series is pretty different between games, hence why people have such strong convictions of their favorite/least favorite games. I have to clear this up - I don't hate all FPSes though, since there are a number of FPS and FPS-spinoffs I truly loved. I'm just getting rather fatigued with the genre.

I don't think S-E has failed to recognize the Japanese industry has fallen far behind (though I would argue it's more of a "switched gears", as they focus mostly on handhelds nowadays while the west don't really care much about handhelds), they just don't really know what to do to mitigate it, and thus they end up alienating both audiences. Like, look at that game with a different lead character depending on the JP/West versions - Nier I think?. In fact, plenty of interviews with Wada talk about S-E wanting to break into Facebook gaming, put more money forth towards mobile gaming, etc. And naturally, the people who get pissed about this are the longtime S-E fans who want more new-IP RPGs out of them, not browser and iPhone stuff.

A lot of the core pieces of the Japanese RPG experience seem counterpoint to what is in vogue at the moment (which I argue is more realistic graphics/settings, online multiplayer, more action oriented, more simplified, much less abstract). So to push for mainstream sales in the US would require a whole modification of the genre and IMO not worth the financial risk. Hell, for me, it'll be a sad day when turn-based strategic gaming and convoluted systems go the way of the dodo. Eliminating some of the more wacky jappy elements would be a start (I could personally give or take it, it doesn't immediately turn me off like some people...) to mainstream US acceptance, since Lost Odyssey and Demon's Souls I think did decent here.

And no, with the exception of the FF games post 7 and a few random one-offs like Xenosaga and Star Ocean 3 (both :yuck :yuck), most Japanese-made RPGs fail to crack over 100,000 copies sold, in America. For the longest time, Europe got screwed out of many of the genre's classes, too. Hence why RPG devs want to cater to their diehard constituency instead of taking a risk on expanding their market. It seems to be working for Atlus, at the very least... They are still open (and have been really prolific in the last few years), while plenty of studios focusing on more mainstream-friendly titles have closed their doors.

It's the same thing that has happened with 2D fighting games, shmups, graphic adventure games, and lots of other genres that have been around for a while. Japanese RPGs are 25 years old, and still kicking in their homeland (DQ9 = most successful Japanese third party game ever in Japan). And I'm sure there are plenty of oldskool WRPG fans who lament the "simplification" of something like Mass Effect in a bid to gain sales, you don't need to look further to what happened with Fallout 3 to see this.

I've never found people to care about my taste in games, as far as social acceptance goes. More people know me as "that dance music kid" than a gamer. Saying you're a DJ (even a bedroom one, like in my case) will definitely get you more ass than saying you're the top ranked MW2 player on Live :P

Armitage: nearly every game is adolescent, poorly written and poorly acted. And there are still a ton of really creative ones on the market that are anything BUT "archaic". Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, TWEWY, Bowser's Inside Story, Avalon Code, Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume, just in the past 2 years alone.
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« Reply #2836 on: January 31, 2010, 05:59:35 PM »
they died when they became the kojima kompany

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386322

How far a great company has fallen :(

Lots of those are garbage. Nice nostalgia wankfest.
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Konami was great in the NES days, because most of the other third parties were absolute garbage. Not hard to stand above the pack when your competitors were SNK, Bandai and Hudsonsoft.  They've mostly been living off those days with sequels and few a breakout titles (DDR).



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http://www.liveleak.com/mp.swf?config=http://www.liveleak.com/flash_config.php?token=4b9_1264949825%26embed=1

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Is there supposed to be no sound.  I found this pretty sad though.  Looks like the teacher has been through a stroke.
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Konami was great in the NES days, because most of the other third parties were absolute garbage. Not hard to stand above the pack when your competitors were SNK, Bandai and Hudsonsoft.  They've mostly been living off those days with sequels and few a breakout titles (DDR).



Yeah but Konami barely exists anymore.  After wikipedia-ing their 2009 release list, it is absolutely abysmal and is their most barren year yet.
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they died when they became the kojima kompany

MGS4 is the first good Konami game since MGS3 (I haven't played Suikoden 5), they would be fucking irrelevant if it wasn't for that series.
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they died when they became the kojima kompany

MGS4 is the first good Konami game since MGS3 (I haven't played Suikoden 5), they would be fucking irrelevant if it wasn't for that series.

The "Rebirth" series on Wiiware is pretty cool, too. But other than that, yeah Konami has sucked lately. Why not make a sequel to JACKAL?
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NeoGAF is trying to out-GameFAQs GameFAQs. This should be fun.
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gamefaqs wins because the site works 99% of the time

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I use GFaqs when I need advice, etc. Even post on it.
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« Reply #2851 on: February 01, 2010, 05:29:00 AM »
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This is amazing :rofl

A lot of white people took this as permission to quote the refrain themselves.  I think his later bit on the one time white people are allowed to use the word was at least partially a response to that.

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Is there supposed to be no sound.  I found this pretty sad though.  Looks like the teacher has been through a stroke.

I also feel sorry for that guy.  I never want to teach in that type of school.  Geez.
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http://www.liveleak.com/mp.swf?config=http://www.liveleak.com/flash_config.php?token=4b9_1264949825%26embed=1

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This is amazing :rofl

A lot of white people took this as permission to quote the refrain themselves.  I think his later bit on the one time white people are allowed to use the word was at least partially a response to that.

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I would say the same thing about Gaga's crazy performance.  I don't particularly care for her crumby music, Rad Bromance included, but that was a hell of a spectacle.

[youtube=560,345]w8xEYU3vz4c[/youtube]

This video is messed up, but it's all I came up with in 5 minutes.
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« Reply #2856 on: February 01, 2010, 01:29:36 PM »


The bit in the middle about the wedding O_O

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« Reply #2857 on: February 01, 2010, 01:35:09 PM »
wtf :o
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« Reply #2858 on: February 01, 2010, 01:37:39 PM »
 :-\

15ft? That sounds fake, but if that's real fuuuck
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« Reply #2859 on: February 01, 2010, 01:38:49 PM »
Maybe you need to get yourself a dominatrix, Maurice.
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« Reply #2860 on: February 01, 2010, 01:39:24 PM »
I must admit I'm curious as to what a "queening stool" is.
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Post pix in the NSFW thread.  :hyper
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(Image removed from quote.)

The bit in the middle about the wedding O_O

Its only flesh :smug
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« Reply #2863 on: February 01, 2010, 02:03:47 PM »
Pictures of the wedding party:

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To this day, Hellraiser still freaks me out. Its my personal "Exorcist" in that I watched a portion of it when I was young.
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« Reply #2865 on: February 01, 2010, 02:09:53 PM »
I HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU.
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« Reply #2867 on: February 01, 2010, 02:33:01 PM »
Hellraiser wasn't "scary" but it definitely freaked me out. Great movie. Plus I wind up thinking about it whenever I'm cleaning out an old attic or something  :lol
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I HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU.

 :'(

Its the thought of Hell being full of meat hooks and pulling innards out and stuff in that quick captains log video in Event Horizon  :-\
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« Reply #2869 on: February 01, 2010, 02:50:17 PM »
I swear when I saw Event Horizon recently that there were also flashes of ANAL RAPE in that grainy captain's log video.
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« Reply #2870 on: February 01, 2010, 02:57:03 PM »
I swear when I saw Event Horizon recently that there were also flashes of ANAL RAPE in that grainy captain's log video.

I love that movie so much

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« Reply #2871 on: February 01, 2010, 03:17:38 PM »
I don't get the love for that flick. It's like, because it's the first sort of Lovecraft adaptation that's not ridiculously campy or embarrassing, it gets all this love in horror circles. It's a very, very flawed film. I dug the atmosphere, but what a waste in my opinion.
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« Reply #2872 on: February 01, 2010, 03:19:02 PM »
I don't get the love for that flick. It's like, because it's the first sort of Lovecraft adaptation that's not ridiculously campy or embarrassing, it gets all this love in horror circles. It's a very, very flawed film. I dug the atmosphere, but what a waste in my opinion.

I just liked it because the first time I saw it I was like 14 and I saw it at 2AM during a fit of insomnia. It's cheesy and stupid as fuck, but I love it. Didn't know it was based off of Lovecraft or that it had a cult following. Doesn't bother me.

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« Reply #2873 on: February 01, 2010, 03:22:09 PM »
You're a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

You like the Halloween remakes.

Uh what? :lol
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i saw it in theaters or on vhs when it was released.  i can't remember much

except the dude laughing at the screen.

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« Reply #2875 on: February 01, 2010, 03:23:45 PM »
what's the halloween sequel where Michael isn't really in it? My facts may be wrong but I remember it being very different from other Halloween flicks; saw it on AMC
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« Reply #2877 on: February 01, 2010, 03:35:30 PM »
I don't think a ten second search constitutes as thread hunting, but I can't have you sully my good name by saying that I enjoy the Halloween remakes. Even I have standards, sir.
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[youtube=560,345]CMr52bCXNdU[/youtube]

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