Author Topic: Borecast 30: Year-End Wrap-Up, Digital Distribution, GOTY (Read 13653 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **on:** December 22, 2009, 10:58:02 PM »

Robert joins Doug and Kevin once again for our year-end wrap-up, with obligatory underrated/overrated/games of the year picks, and a lengthy discussion about the ups and downs of digital distribution!

direct download: http://media.libsyn.com/media/borecast/Borecast30.mp3

(15:00) Our underrated/overlooked picks of the year

(36:00) Our games of the year picks

(54:00) Our overrated/stupidest games of the year picks

(1:12:00) Digital Distribution & DLC - games that improved via DLC, DD criticisms and benefits

Listen at the end for one last chance to enter our L4D Christmas giveaway!

We'll talk to you again in 2010!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1 on:** December 22, 2009, 10:58:43 PM »

Thank you guys for a great year's worth of listening <3

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #2 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:05:03 PM »

thanks for listening

sometimes it's a drag (like today, when it took four tries and over a half-hour to upload), but most of the time it's fun

Akala · « **Reply #3 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:15:32 PM »

yeah, good jon on the cast guys. I don't listen to all of them, but it's the only one I listen to!

that's a compliment!

muckhole · « **Reply #4 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:41:44 PM »

Yes indeed, great shows. Very much appreciated.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #5 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:44:56 PM »

Yes. Please keep doing these. It makes my lunch breaks at work tolerable and much more enjoyable.

You might have actually gained a few listeners unwillingly, as I listen to the 'casts on my iPod in the car most of the time and my passengers have to listen as well.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #6 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:55:06 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383018

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:55:57 PM »

thanks, guys! we've had fun making them. it's been a learning experience for me, fo sho

Purple Filth · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:54:46 AM »

Im betting that UC2 is in the 3 part of this list.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:55:25 AM »

it's actually not, kevin and i liked it a lot

Purple Filth · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:14:59 AM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on December 23, 2009, 12:55:25 AM

it's actually not, kevin and i liked it a lot

interesting, i thought the rabid fans would piss you guys off like they always do.

will be listening soon though

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #11 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:22:41 AM »

they piss us off, and we mock the fans in the intro segment, but not the game itsel

E-DuB · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:24:55 AM »

Seriously, Kevin and Doug thank you for the work you have put into this podcast. If anyone deserves a congratulatory dumpster fuck, it's you guys

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TEEEPO · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2009, 03:59:12 AM »

it's the only podcast i listen to on a regular basis outside of this american life nowadays. thanks!

demi · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2009, 04:34:21 AM »

Havent listened to a single one but I read the show notes every time if that counts

Reb · « **Reply #15 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:11:06 AM »

Stopped listening, too long.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2009, 08:54:55 AM »

Yeoman's work, guys. Thanks for a great year.

tehjaybo · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:00:09 PM »

Downloading now. <3 Borecast!

drew · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:15:31 PM »

i fell asleep listening to this (presumably around the goty discussions where the third guy was talking about his boring overlooked games that nobody else but him will ever play) and left my new hdtv on all night

thanks borecast!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:15:13 PM »

Quote from: demi on December 23, 2009, 04:34:21 AM

Havent listened to a single one but I read the show notes every time if that counts

that counts

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2009, 01:22:25 PM »

Frag's sonybot intro was epic.

I finally finished the previous episode and I thought that was great. Frag, have you played End War at all? I heard Tom Chick praising the game for its "simplistic elegance" so I picked up the 360 version and I was shocked to see that the voice controls actually work perfectly and are alot of fun. I've only put in a few hours so far, but it seems like the most playable console RTS that I've tried.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2009, 02:34:18 PM »

Quote from: Drewsy on December 23, 2009, 12:15:31 PM

i fell asleep listening to this (presumably around the goty discussions where the third guy was talking about his boring overlooked games that nobody else but him will ever play) and left my new hdtv on all night

thanks borecast!

well, hopefully you'll be able to recoup a little bit of your money:

http://www.windycitizen.com/chicago/weird/2009/12/11/found-on-craigslist-chicago-lcd-tv-sale-w-gay-porn-image-burned-into-screen

cool breeze · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2009, 02:38:20 PM »

Quote from: Kestastrophe on December 23, 2009, 01:22:25 PM

Frag's sonybot intro was epic.

I finally finished the previous episode and I thought that was great. Frag, have you played End War at all? I heard Tom Chick praising the game for its "simplistic elegance" so I picked up the 360 version and I was shocked to see that the voice controls actually work perfectly and are alot of fun. I've only put in a few hours so far, but it seems like the most playable console RTS that I've tried.

I only tried the demo of End War, and yeah, the voice controls work incredibly well even with my whiny lisp voice. The game itself seemed incredibly basic, even more so than Halo Wars. It was nice that it mostly focused on attacking instead of base management, which I think other console RTS games try to do and fail at. Pikmin is still the best console RTS I've played that doesn't feel like it's trying hard to work on the limited controls.

demi · « **Reply #23 on:** December 23, 2009, 02:39:11 PM »

Pikmin is an RTS? News to me, its the best Nintendo game in the past 10 years

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #24 on:** December 24, 2009, 12:47:59 PM »

Reminder - there's still time (until 10 p.m. tonight) to enter our L4D1 giveaway!

border · « **Reply #25 on:** December 24, 2009, 03:15:17 PM »

I can't believe you guys crapped all over Plants Versus Zombies. It's a $10 game and while it probably isn't as deep other tower defense, PopCap has never been about making games that are as full-featured as their peers. They created a fun project with a charming premise, addictive gameplay, and tons of cool extra modes. Nobody is considering it as a GOTY contender and it seems as though most "Year end wrap ups" have forgotten it entirely......even calling it overrated seems a bit much. If you dislike PvZ, you can still thank PopCap for generating a lot of new interest in the genre -- it was my first tower defense game and I'm gonna give Defense Grid a try since Frag mentioned it.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #26 on:** December 24, 2009, 04:11:33 PM »

I like P vs. Z! Frag's gotta right to his opinion, though.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #27 on:** December 27, 2009, 11:34:37 PM »

Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on December 27, 2009, 06:42:11 AM

Reading the manual on the toilet

If I had my way, every game designer would have a copy of the Civ4 manual chained to their toilet so they could read Soren Johnson's design notes at the end of the manual frequently and without distraction. Seriously, even though it is game-specific, it is one of the best pieces on game design ever published.

As for Plants vs. Zombies, my biggest (but not only) problem with it is all about the strict adherence to the lanes, which in turn I feel strips the genre of an essential spatial puzzling/reasoning element. They try to compensate for that by adding in time management aspects (clicking on sunshine, coins, etc.) but I didn't find that they went too mixed very well together. It's definitely the complaint of a genre enthusiast and while I think the game is overrated as a tower defense game, someone who hasn't played much of them probably won't care. I don't think the tower defense genre is complex enough for a casual gaming product that you have to strip out those elements in order to make a good game for your intended audience.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #28 on:** January 08, 2010, 05:30:31 PM »

So... new Borecast next week?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #29 on:** January 08, 2010, 07:15:23 PM »

I'm not sure, actually. Prole's just getting back from his vacation today, depends on if he's too tired to record this weekend. Might have to push it back another week.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #30 on:** January 08, 2010, 07:27:10 PM »

Now that I have my iphone, I can catch up on these faster.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #31 on:** January 08, 2010, 09:01:47 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 08, 2010, 07:15:23 PM

I'm not sure, actually. Prole's just getting back from his vacation today, depends on if he's too tired to record this weekend. Might have to push it back another week.

Nooooo

Do a one-man 'cast Eel, I will seriously suck your dick if you did. I need my fix.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #32 on:** January 08, 2010, 09:19:53 PM »

First Borecast groupie?

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #33 on:** January 08, 2010, 10:02:03 PM »

I hope to move up to "Borecast Roadie" someday!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #34 on:** January 09, 2010, 01:36:32 PM »

Quote from: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 08, 2010, 09:01:47 PM

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 08, 2010, 07:15:23 PM
I'm not sure, actually. Prole's just getting back from his vacation today, depends on if he's too tired to record this weekend. Might have to push it back another week.

Nooooo

Do a one-man 'cast Eel, I will seriously suck your dick if you did. I need my fix.

i'd just bore everyone to tears

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #35 on:** January 09, 2010, 02:08:33 PM »

my week back from vacay is gonna be hell, but i might be able to record something wednesday night

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #36 on:** January 09, 2010, 02:10:43 PM »

we can just do it next weekend

i wouldn't be able to get it edited and ready before then, anyway

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #37 on:** January 09, 2010, 05:45:42 PM »

Quote from: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on January 08, 2010, 10:02:03 PM

I hope to move up to "Borecast Roadie" someday!

I downloaded and burned a few discs with all of their episodes. Since I drive around and the radio plays the same dozen songs every two hours, it's a nice fix. That or listen to Tik Tok for the 80,000th time

$:-\$

I also use it to fall asleep.

The Borecast is pretty good because the people on the show aren't using it as a tool for more work. Shit like the 1up show or Giant Bombcast (never listened to it but if it's like all the other gaming podcasts, I don't need to) are aggravating and terrible because everyone is a tryhard ninny who is angling for a PR position with EA. That or Kevin Smith using his shitcast as a marketing tool to hype his next movie.

Reb · « **Reply #38 on:** January 09, 2010, 06:07:53 PM »

SModcast is brilliant!

He plugs his movies way less than Prole hypes MS products.
Prole's Zune plug a few episodes ago was way over the top.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #39 on:** January 09, 2010, 06:25:14 PM »

nah, he just likes the zune, he was telling me about it over IM days before we ever recorded

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #40 on:** January 09, 2010, 07:26:15 PM »

after i bashed windows me? come on!

border · « **Reply #41 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:05:55 PM »

BORECAST Drinking Game

Drink whenever:

Doug plugs Microsoft
Doug plugs the Republic of Gamers laptop
Kevin hiss-cackles like Dick Dastardly's dog Muttley
A disparaging comment is made about the Wii or PSP

I defy anyone to stay conscious for an entire episode.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #42 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:07:26 PM »

Quote from: border on January 09, 2010, 09:05:55 PM

BORECAST Drinking Game

Drink whenever:

Doug plugs Microsoft
Doug plugs the Republic of Gamers laptop
Kevin hiss-cackles like Dick Dastardly's dog Muttley
A disparaging comment is made about the Wii or PSP

I defy anyone to stay conscious for an entire episode.

It's hard enough without the alcohol.

I kid!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #43 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:07:57 PM »

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #44 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:43:34 PM »

Ouch!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #45 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:47:29 PM »

Quote from: Harry Lime on January 09, 2010, 09:07:26 PM

Quote from: border on January 09, 2010, 09:05:55 PM
BORECAST Drinking Game

Drink whenever:

Doug plugs Microsoft
Doug plugs the Republic of Gamers laptop
Kevin hiss-cackles like Dick Dastardly's dog Muttley
A disparaging comment is made about the Wii or PSP

I defy anyone to stay conscious for an entire episode.

It's hard enough without the alcohol.

I kid!

annihilated :'(

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #46 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:48:44 PM »

border is right, I do like to use Borecast episodes to fall asleep. Nothing personal, it is some weird quirk I have.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #47 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:50:03 PM »

It's Eel's soothing southern drawl.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #48 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:54:58 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on January 09, 2010, 09:48:44 PM

border is right, I do like to use Borecast episodes to fall asleep. Nothing personal, it is some weird quirk I have.

Trying to induce some sex dreams?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #49 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:55:36 PM »

as long as you listen, you could use our croaking as an audio-delivered ipecac or iraqi torture method -- it's all good to me! we've never claimed to be special, or that we're doing this for anything other than a little narcissism mixed with a desire to put something back into the internet community we take from, even if it's a little lame or unprofessional. it's useful for me to work on my speaking and presentation skills, plus i am totally a whore for the sound of my own voice, so hey: I GOT MINE

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** January 09, 2010, 09:56:41 PM »

and yes, eel is totally relaxing to talk to, as well, especially when he talks about his special "southern comfort" during the pre-show fluff period

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #51 on:** January 09, 2010, 10:00:04 PM »

Malek: You should try it sometime.

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on January 09, 2010, 09:50:03 PM

It's Eel's soothing southern drawl.

Probably. That and the music choices he makes.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #52 on:** January 09, 2010, 10:08:57 PM »

that's not the first time i've heard that muttley crack

i blame it on smoking, and having television as a babysitter

i just get tickled when we record, doug catches me off-guard a lot

i'd imagine i silence out 25% of my laughing just so i don't sound like a gibbering mongoloid (more than usual, i mean)

deciding on bump music is my least favorite part, probably why it's all over the place genre-wise

border · « **Reply #53 on:** January 10, 2010, 11:56:34 PM »

I listen to any and all podcasts while going to sleep -- the main problem is that you eventually drift off and have to try and find your place the next day. Plus if there's a loud section later in the show it will wake you up. I hope that someday somebody makes an MP3 player or iPod accessory that can detect when you enter REM sleep, so that it will shut down when it knows you are no longer conscious.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #54 on:** January 11, 2010, 12:26:29 AM »

The Borecast: It Cures Insomnia

brob · « **Reply #55 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:03:04 PM »

Fuck you Eel for dragging me from my lurking ways. Where my fix at?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #56 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:21:38 PM »

my vacation and sickness have delayed recording until tomorrow night. blame me!

next ep is new year's resolutions and genre literature discussions, plus some what we are playing bullshit as usual. i will probably say "oh wow" a lot.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #57 on:** January 18, 2010, 10:15:21 PM »

I miss you guys. Hurry up. I need something to listen to while I'm on lunch break.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #58 on:** January 19, 2010, 01:17:54 AM »

just finished recording!

Oblivion · « **Reply #59 on:** January 19, 2010, 01:26:56 AM »

Frag, I think.

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