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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2040 on:** March 09, 2011, 01:36:09 AM »

lacto-ovo, vegan..?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2041 on:** March 09, 2011, 01:40:33 AM »

by sheer coincidence I just got done reading Tim Ferriss' '4 Hour Body' which has a lengthy section on fitness and vegetarianism. He goes into some crazy detail, some of it quite surprising. I'd recommend taking a look at that (it's a best-seller so should be available in libraries and such if you don't want to buy).

Mupepe · « **Reply #2042 on:** March 09, 2011, 10:16:35 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 08, 2011, 09:08:38 PM

oh, you absolutely can, it's just going to take more time and you have to be more careful with diet and recovery. You have to use finesse rather than brute force, basically. Good job!

Yeah, last time I tried losing weight and still lifting weights I just ended up getting sick and feeling like shit. This time I did research and counted my protein (and carbs and fats) and I've been making great gains and this morning I weighed myself and i'm 2 lbs down from Saturday. I know I shouldn't have but I couldn't resist because my pants felt extra loose this morning. Great feeling.

Quote from: andrwfields on March 08, 2011, 09:53:52 PM

Awesome work bro!

I went on vacation this weekend. Still recovering from all the bad shit I did to myself...

thanks! I got advice from some guys doing Dave Palumbo's diet and most of them take the entire weekend off because it's a really rough diet (i'll post it below). I don't want to take the entire weekend off because my willpower isn't THAT great yet so I decided to take a meal off Saturday and a meal off Sunday while still staying within my caloric macros. Even though I usually feel like hell immediately after eating bad I still found I have the stupid urge to do it. I don't have the urge to ever eat bread or anything, but I get cravings for whole items like a burrito or buffalo chicken. And I indulge myself once a week

By the way here is Dave Palumbo's diet...

1st meal: 6 whole eggs
2nd meal: whey protein shake with 2 tbsp of peanut butter
3rd meal: 8 oz chicken breast with 1/2 cup of almonds
4th meal: 8 oz salmon with asparagus and macadamia oil
5th meal: whey protein shake with 2 tbsp of pb
6th meal: 6 whole eggs

You'll lose crazy weight and get crazy protein but holy fuck that's too many eggs for me. some guys on bodybuilding.com have been on it for months and lost like 50 lbs for a cut.

Quote from: DrMiletski on March 08, 2011, 10:12:01 PM

Bitches gimme diet advice. I like climbin' and I do lots of weights, but I went vegetarian about 2 years ago and I rely on whey protein (and pithy vegetarian sources of protein, including dairy). WTF should I do? tell me

http://vegetarianbodybuilder.com/187.html

There's some good info there.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2043 on:** March 09, 2011, 07:14:03 PM »

Jeez, I had 5 eggs yesterday and I thought maybe I was overdoing it

Still, there is only like 6 grams of protein in an egg. If you're looking to get all your protein from them, you'll be eating a fuck of a lot of them.

This is one reason why it's tough to be vegetarian and thrive (as opposed to just survive, which we can do on more or less anything we can chew). You really have to think hard about where that protein is coming from.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2044 on:** March 09, 2011, 09:38:15 PM »

I ate bacon and eggs twice yesterday, just couldn't be bothered cooking anything serious in the evening. I'm giving serious thought to a month of eating nothing else. Maybe i'll do that for Lent

Oblivion · « **Reply #2045 on:** March 09, 2011, 10:20:57 PM »

So I've been going to the gym for the past week or so, and it may be in my mind, but at the very least, my arms feel harder and stronger.

So a few questions:

1. When benchpressing, how many sets should I (as a beginner) start off with?
2. How long should the entire workout be per day?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2046 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:07:27 AM »

1. A THOUSAND

2. ALL DAY

RAAAAARRRR

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2047 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:10:00 AM »

Seriously, beginners are typically well-served by something like 3 sets of 5 reps, adding weight gradually. Basic linear progression. Do as many sets as you feel you need with just the bar or minimal weight in order to get comfortable with form (there is a surprising amount to learn). But don't do lots of sets with a middling amount of weight. Aim to do a couple of sets at a challenging weight, and you will get stronger fast.

Oblivion · « **Reply #2048 on:** March 10, 2011, 12:41:47 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 10, 2011, 12:10:00 AM

Seriously, beginners are typically well-served by something like 3 sets of 5 reps, adding weight gradually. Basic linear progression. Do as many sets as you feel you need with just the bar or minimal weight in order to get comfortable with form (there is a surprising amount to learn). But don't do lots of sets with a middling amount of weight. Aim to do a couple of sets at a challenging weight, and you will get stronger fast.

Noice. Sounds good.

I would also like to mention that I'm not just excercising to build up strength. I want to actually gain some mass, since I'm super skinny and have been for pretty much forever. You got any advice on gaining mass in a reasonable amount of time, Cormac? Diets, particular workouts, etc?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2049 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:30:29 AM »

well, it depends how scientific you want to get, and how much experience you have. I personally have no interest in getting any bigger. I've done so in the past and haven't really enjoyed it. But if you are a beginner, just keep it simple: squat, deadlift, press, nothing else. 'Rest hard'. Eat a ton.

Starting Strength is a great place to start, but there are plenty of ways to skin this particular cat.
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

Next of course, you'll be wanting to get big without getting fat, and that's where it gets tricky! You'll need to settle for somewhat slower gains, most likely, and be a lot more careful about what you eat.

Boogie · « **Reply #2050 on:** March 10, 2011, 04:12:40 PM »

I love me some eggs, but a diet of 12 eggs a day?! Holy shit

Mupepe · « **Reply #2051 on:** March 10, 2011, 04:19:39 PM »

yeah my appetite for eggs is ruined. bleh. i gag when I do eat them now. I've been ditching the yolks when i do them hard boiled and i've been trying to find a better way to eat them scrambled but they come out gross either way now. The texture, flavor and everything for eggs is ruined. Probably for forever.

Groogrux · « **Reply #2052 on:** March 11, 2011, 10:33:27 AM »

I still love eggs. I would - and do - eat them every day.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2053 on:** March 11, 2011, 10:43:52 AM »

eat 12 a day for a week, mang! That's how long I was able to keep it up. Also, fry them in a tbsp of olive oil. no amount of seasoning will make them bearable. Ugh. I had to cut it down to 3 this morning. I couldn't do it.

Groogrux · « **Reply #2054 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:23:00 AM »

I'm a third of the way through reading the Primal Blueprint. All the stuff Mark Sisson is saying makes sense. I've been going through the MDA site tonight just reading one success story after another. The amazing thing with it is how many of these people are my size and lose it so freakin' fast! I'm not making that my goal, because I don't want to disappoint myself if it doesn't happen, but I am aiming for it in the long-run.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2055 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:13:54 AM »

Yeah, it's pretty much gold. He may be proven wrong on a few details here and there, but it's not for lack of research. It's for lack of proper studies done.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2056 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:01:15 AM »

I've been relying on granola bars (1 per day) the past two weeks for my snack-fix but after looking part the calorie count per serving and reading the dietary ingredients I realized that I was basically eating candy bars this whole time; 5+ g of sugar per bar, low fibers, low proteins, high carbs. Not mention that it's made out of processed ingredients and artificially flavored. I think I'd get the same benefits if I was eating a snack-size snicker bar. Bleh $:-\$

So, I need to replace it asap with something that has the same amount of calories (150-200) but from ingredients that are much more beneficial. Any suggestions?

Edit: Also, thought's on 6' Subway subs? (turkey breasts?)

I know there are far better alternatives but for a poor single guy who can't cook shit it looks very appealing, that is if the their nutritional guide (PDF) is to be believed.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2057 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:11:54 AM »

snack? who snacks

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2058 on:** March 14, 2011, 06:24:52 AM »

I starve between meals, and I'm no good at spreading my three meals into 4 or 5 smaller ones :'(

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2059 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:27:29 AM »

then you're eating the wrong things for the meals

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2060 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:35:04 AM »

Proteins, fibers, low carbs, and no fat to speak of. Basically eggs, chicken, turkey breasts or fish (boiled or oven baked), whole wheat bread, and lots of leafy greens. What am I doing wrong?

Mupepe · « **Reply #2061 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:25:28 AM »

I wouldn't say you're doing it wrong. I would say you need to suck it up for a while and you will adapt. I was the same way for a while (long while). My wife is the same way right now but she's coming around. We used to finish eating and I'd be full/satisfied and yet, a woman who is literally half my size was saying she was still hungry. It's a mental thing more than anything IMO. Suck it up for a week and you'll see that it's not as big of a deal after a while.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2062 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:33:51 PM »

He is doing it wrong - no FAT. Of course he's starving. Whole wheat bread is also right out. You cannot be eating 'low carb' if you are eating bread, come on.

Go to fitday.com and write up a couple of day's worth of your food, with weights or portions, and I'll tell you what you're doing wrong. Otherwise i'm just taking wild stabs in the dark.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2063 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:56:55 PM »

oops, didn't notice no fat. gotta get fats in. i put a tsp of olive oil with my tuna. macadamia oil with my asparagus. eat some fatty meats every once in a while.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2064 on:** March 14, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »

I see.

Re: whole wheat bread - I eat it in low portions, like the equivalent of 2-3 slices of wheat bread per day, I thought that was reasonably "low" lol.

Overall, I knew I was something wrong.

I'll go to fitday and see if I can accurately write a day's worth of food.

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I'm gonna lie a little to make myself good since now I'm scared of Cormac reaching out of the screen and bitch-slapping me :'(.

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Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2065 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:30:14 PM »

Ugh, well this is an eye opener. I should have started logging my diet day one.

This is my daily diet on good day, ie a day starting with all-brawn flakes, usually my days start with an apple and a glass of skimmed milk if I'm running late, but I'm going with this one as I feel much better when I go with this version. Other changes I sometimes do is replacing the slices of bread with a cup of steamed/cooked white rice, low on oil and salt, so that daily portion of carbs is always there unlike the brawn flakes. Now, I'm not an expert but this doesn't look too "low carb" to me, amirite?

So gentlemen, let me have it, please be gentle $:-\$

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2066 on:** March 14, 2011, 09:37:02 PM »

Also, can someone explain the conversion rate of a non fluid oz? I was getting crazy numbers before realizing that a cup != 8 oz.

I swear, you Americans and your backwards unit system.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2067 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:34:41 PM »

the gap between people's perceptions and the reality regarding diet is always hilarious

38% of your calories are from carbs. 22% from fat. You need to reverse that, at minimum, if you want to lose weight. Stop eating garbage like bran flakes. Cut out fruit. Cut out bread totally. Don't eat 'low fat' ANYTHING, including cheese and other dairy. You should really just cut out dairy totally. Eat the skin on the chicken if it's a healthy free range animal, if not, discard.

And the total number of calories is far too low. 1,000 a day for someone what, 200lbs, 6'2''? You'll be miserable and unable to sustain it. Which will lead to uncontrolled snacking.

Try this template for a few days and see what happens. I'm keeping this as simple as possible in light of the 'I can't cook' argument:

Breakfast - bacon or sausage and eggs
Lunch - chicken salad
Dinner - meat and vegetables (non-starchy - broccoli, spinach, cauliflower)

Drink water. Nothing else. If you can only cook 1 or 2 of the above meals to your satisfaction, just eat the same thing again. That'll be all the motivation you need to learn how to cook something else.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2068 on:** March 14, 2011, 10:45:30 PM »

That doesn't sound bad at all and very manageable, as long as store bought proteins (like packaged sausage for instance) is permissible. Can I ask for portions if it's not too much trouble? like how many eggs, sausages, grams meat, and chicken breasts in that template should be reasonable?

Prioritizing fat over carbs is blowing my mind, so it's all so new to me lol.

Can I bow again? I'm gonna bow again.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2069 on:** March 14, 2011, 11:05:02 PM »

You shouldn't need portions after a while. Eat what you want. You won't gorge yourself non-stop at every meal - it's almost impossible if you're eating good foods. Our bodies are capable of regulating themselves quite well if we don't fuck up the signalling by eating weird stuff.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2070 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:16:01 AM »

ever since i stopped eating shit I've stopped getting so full it hurts. you'll feel satisfied as opposed to full

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2071 on:** March 15, 2011, 11:08:09 AM »

there ya go.

I mean, at first, eat 5 times a day if you want, so long as it's the right stuff. Go ahead, it won't kill you or make you any fatter than you already are. Psychologically, you may need to convince yourself that you are getting enough, even though your stomach will be telling you that. It won't take long to correct though.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2072 on:** March 15, 2011, 01:58:26 PM »

Impressive. Are you currently in the military or just training for fun?

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2073 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:34:10 PM »

How anal should I be about how I cook my food? so far all my proteins are boiled and vegetables sauteed. Should I ease up a bit?

Mupepe · « **Reply #2074 on:** March 15, 2011, 04:46:09 PM »

You can ease up. just don't go crazy and use good oils (not vegetable oil or canola oil). boiled proteins? bleh.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2075 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:14:11 AM »

You won't last long if it doesn't taste good, unless you are seriously motivated (i.e. for athletic goals or something).

Groogrux · « **Reply #2076 on:** March 20, 2011, 03:11:33 PM »

I finally got around to giving the weighted backpacking a try. I went for 2 hours with ~ 50lbs in my backpack. It wasn't bad at all. I felt like I was on the moon after I took it off though...

Bebpo · « **Reply #2077 on:** March 20, 2011, 09:19:00 PM »

Man, I love working out. I hadn't worked out for about 3 weeks with the bar exam and then having the flu for 2 1/2 weeks, and so I just started up again a few days ago and already I'm feeling sooo much happy with life. Working out puts me in a good mood on a daily basis, makes me happy because I feel healthier, and helps my self-esteem because I love looking in shape.

exercise

Skidmark · « **Reply #2078 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:09:25 PM »

Has anybody here tried GOMAD?
http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/
I have been giving it a try the last couple of days. Any thoughts?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2079 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:13:49 PM »

I hear it's tough to keep it up for weeks and weeks, but it certainly works from what I can tell. I didn't stick to it when I did Starting Strength but I ate a ton of food and drank a load of milk for sure. it got uncomfortable and I bailed out before I got too fat (i had a 'can't cross this line' cut-off point before going in and got there shockingly fast). It just depends how fast you need to get big/strong, really. If you do it without the lifting, you'll just become obese. I don't think it's a great move for health AT ALL, but it is a useful strategy if it fits your goals.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2080 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:18:17 PM »

Welp, over the weekend I learned my lesson. Should definitely be supplementing fiber with the amount of protein I've been eating

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2081 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:21:23 PM »

Really? what do you need the fiber for?

Mupepe · « **Reply #2082 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:32:05 PM »

shitting. there's not very much green in my diet (the one I posted before). a lot of people that are on it apparently supplement fiber with it. some people are okay with the amount they get from the diet, but others aren't. I'm not. :'(

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2083 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:33:29 PM »

sure it isn't something else? i.e. too many diuretics like coffee?

Mupepe · « **Reply #2084 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:34:52 PM »

i don't drink anything besides water. =\

and as soon as I started taking the fiber saturday I finally felt movement. I hadn't felt anything since early last week. And this morning, dear lord it finally happened.

Skidmark · « **Reply #2085 on:** March 21, 2011, 05:43:46 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 21, 2011, 05:13:49 PM

I hear it's tough to keep it up for weeks and weeks, but it certainly works from what I can tell. I didn't stick to it when I did Starting Strength but I ate a ton of food and drank a load of milk for sure. it got uncomfortable and I bailed out before I got too fat (i had a 'can't cross this line' cut-off point before going in and got there shockingly fast). It just depends how fast you need to get big/strong, really. If you do it without the lifting, you'll just become obese. I don't think it's a great move for health AT ALL, but it is a useful strategy if it fits your goals.

Yeah, its not very easy, but i try to drink as much as I can after every meal.
I also work out, I have some gym equipment at home. I workout about an hour a day, 5 times a week.
But I am not really sticking to SS exercises. I am doing the normal stuff that I used to do with my friends at the gym a couple of years ago. basically do 2 muscle groups per workout, 2 or 3 different exercises for each muscle. 8 x 3 for each exercise. Does this work as well or do I have to stick to Squats, dead lifts 5x5 and so on?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2086 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:15:49 PM »

It's gonna be tough to stress the system enough with isolation exercises to grow. You really would need to spend a lot longer working on every body part unless you want to grow asymmetrically for some reason. Why work out 5 days a week when you can work out for 3 and get better results? Besides, squats and deadlifts are fun. They require more technique and demand more from you. If you enjoy the challenge and want the most bang for buck, that's definitely the way to go.

Skidmark · « **Reply #2087 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:25:09 PM »

Good advice, its just that I am new to them and I currently don't have a friend to help me out. I will invest a couple of hours tomorrow after class to check out how they are done properly on youtube and so on. Is doing SS more than 3 times a week a good or a bad idea?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2088 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:37:04 PM »

bad - you will get weaker instead of stronger. You need the milk etc to recover from the huge stress of each workout. You need sleep as well. If you are incredibly dedicated and do nothing else, you could benefit from doing more. But if you are new to weightlifting and it's just a hobby, anything more than 3 will crush you and you won't be able to recover in time for the next workout. Don't make the mistake of trying to do more because the first few workouts are easy. It will ramp up with frightening speed until you are warming up with your old maxes. And don't do anything else either, if you want good results. No running, no Crossfit, no supplementary exercises.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2089 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:39:44 PM »

Breast milk?

Skidmark · « **Reply #2090 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:44:54 PM »

Good that I have asked the question early on, I do a lot of running too. I guess I will just stick with the regular SS program. Thanks!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2091 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:48:35 PM »

Enjoy pigging out!

If I did it again, I would try to keep as lean as possible. Ramp up good fat intake rather than just 'whatever is nearest'. Stay gluten-free and low carb.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #2092 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:42:38 PM »

So, uh, not interested in working out yet. Just wanted to form good eating habits before I attempt that. What do y'alls grocery lists look like? I've been trying to stay away from bread/cheese/sweets for the past week and its been kinda hard thinking of a variety of beneficial staples to replace the old ones. I've been doing a lot of eggs in the morning, salads and meat in the afternoon. But its getting kinda repetitive and I don't want the new diet to become monotonous and unappealing.

I have some asparagus in my fridge actually, what's a good way to prepare it i.e. tasty.

Edit: Oh what is the consensus on peanut butter? I imagine its pure oils and fats and calories. How about condiments like ketchup. Do I need to omit them entirely? Is mustard okay?

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #2093 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:47:21 PM »

Cormacaroni pwned

Groogrux · « **Reply #2094 on:** March 23, 2011, 02:29:59 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 22, 2011, 10:47:21 PM

Cormacaroni pwned

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Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 22, 2011, 10:42:38 PM

So, uh, not interested in working out yet. Just wanted to form good eating habits before I attempt that. What do y'alls grocery lists look like? I've been trying to stay away from bread/cheese/sweets for the past week and its been kinda hard thinking of a variety of beneficial staples to replace the old ones. I've been doing a lot of eggs in the morning, salads and meat in the afternoon. But its getting kinda repetitive and I don't want the new diet to become monotonous and unappealing.

I have some asparagus in my fridge actually, what's a good way to prepare it i.e. tasty.

Edit: Oh what is the consensus on peanut butter? I imagine its pure oils and fats and calories. How about condiments like ketchup. Do I need to omit them entirely? Is mustard okay?

I stock my kitchen with a lot of fresh veggies like peppers, celery, carrots, onions, and mushrooms. I usually keep some frozen berries in the freezer and some fresh bananas hanging. As for meat, I go with pretty much anything as long as it's not too fatty. Eggs and bacon are big staples for breakfast for me. Also, I like to get bags of frozen veggies like stir-fry veggies and frozen broccoli for quick fixes. I also usually have a gallon of milk and some low-fat yogurt in the fridge.

Peanut butter is... okay. Almond butter is better. If you have to get peanut butter, get something that is "natural" or "organic" because they'll make it without hydrogenated oils. Ketchup is full of sugar and salt, use sparingly. I've never had an issue against mustard, but I don't use it that often.

If you want a snack, almonds are the best. You can get satisfaction from a small handful, and they're good for you.

Bread sucks. You don't need it.

If you want to use cheese, go with yellow cheeses. Stay away from Kraft sliced American bullshit. Get at least a decent cheese that tastes good.

Hope this helps. I'm sure Cormac will come in with some good ideas.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2095 on:** March 23, 2011, 06:38:15 AM »

"Recommended by pseudo-athletes"

No shit!

Mupepe · « **Reply #2096 on:** March 23, 2011, 10:22:13 AM »

I cook asparagus by putting it on a baking pan, drizzling a bit of olive oil on it and mincing up some garlic and tossing it on there too. you can also add some salt and whatnot too if you'd like. Then bake it at 400 for about 10 minutes. it'll come out crunchy.

as far as peanut butter goes, as long as it's not the sweetened variety (just peanuts and salt) then it's fine. That's assuming you're not eating half a jar in a sitting because it is extremely fatty. But used in moderation there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Just make combinations of different greens and meats and look up recipes that don't require you adding extra fats/processed shit to your food. If you search for paleo recipes on google you'll find a ton of good recipes and just get like 10 or so and mix it up.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #2097 on:** March 23, 2011, 10:30:26 AM »

I'm just waiting for the upcoming event (two weeks from now) to pass then I'm gonna lax and ease up on my current diet, because it literally is making me sick. I can't look at eggs, greens and veggies without gagging.

I'm seriously thinking about subscribing to one of those fancy diet-center services where they deliver me three calorie-checked meals a day, especially since I'm only interested in maintaining/losing a few more pounds instead of building mass. Yes, I lied, I'm not that poor.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2098 on:** March 23, 2011, 10:46:07 AM »

bleh. i gag everytime I eat eggs now. everything else has gotten more delicious with my diet (plain tuna, baked chicken, vegetables, etc) but eggs taste worse and worse everytime I eat it. But it's a helluva lot of protein

Skidmark · « **Reply #2099 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:29:22 PM »

Ok, so I got a friend to help me do the 5x5 workouts yesterday and it went really good. I felt my body getting warm and stressed after each and every rep, felt great. Today however, I started to feel some pain in my left shoulder, its not bad or sharp at all and its not deep in the muscle, its at the top of my shoulder close to where the bone is, almost on the surface. It feels almost like a bug bite were it just hurts when I press on it. no cracking sound, I can move my arm without feeling any pain, I can do push ups without any pain. Has this got anything to do with my workout? or could it be just that I haven't placed the bar properly on my back when doing squats?

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