FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[Rman]

Some Dannon strawberry yogurt.

I try their Light and Fit yogurt, but sometimes that stuff gives me the shits.

Dude, go full fat Greek Yogurt, top with blueberries and you'll be in heaven.  Low fat, watery yogurt is garbage.  Don't worry about the fat content, since full fat yogurt is low in carbs and has no sugar, other than the natural milk sugars.  

[cool breeze]

I actually like 2% more than full fat greek yogurt.  fat free taste like regular plain yogurst.

[duckman2000]

It's actually a bit difficult to find full fat Greek yogurt around here. It's either 2% or fat free, with the only exception being Fage Total, which is rarely in stock in stores (and also costs twice as much as other brands).

[Mupepe]

mmmm  just bought a yogurt for me to eat in a couple of hours.  mmmmmmmmm

[Mr. Gundam]

It's actually a bit difficult to find full fat Greek yogurt around here. It's either 2% or fat free, with the only exception being Fage Total, which is rarely in stock in stores (and also costs twice as much as other brands).

Whole Foods and Trader Joes both have it.

[Rman]

We get big containers of fish oil pills at Costco. Not sure who makes them.

Kirkland, I believe.

Kirkland is just Costco's store brand (and the name of the city they're based out of), someone else makes it for them.

Oh, ok.  I didn't know that.  The Costco store brand is very popular amongst xfitters.

[Cormacaroni]

It was on ABC news (I think, could have been some other news show)

http://www.alternet.org/health/145916/fish_oil_supplements_--_want_pcbs_with_that

Basically, eat real (fatty) fish

spoiler (click to show/hide)

But watch out for mercury in the most commonly available good, fatty fish. lulz

[close]

This is why you want pharmaceutical grade fish oil.

[BlueTsunami]

any of guys building muscle mass? what do eat before/after your workout?

Its more important that you provide your body with a steady stream of protein, carbs and calories throughout the day. I don't believe there's any beneficial effects of protein intake before or after a workout (as in faster protein processing). Now eating fruit for quick energy burst and drinking water for hydration isn't a bad idea.

[Cormacaroni]

Some Dannon strawberry yogurt.

I try their Light and Fit yogurt, but sometimes that stuff gives me the shits.

Dude, go full fat Greek Yogurt, top with blueberries and you'll be in heaven.  Low fat, watery yogurt is garbage.  Don't worry about the fat content, since full fat yogurt is low in carbs and has no sugar, other than the natural milk sugars.  

How many times has this come up now? I'm losing track!

[BlueTsunami]

Man, I wonder what havoc a dollop of Greek Yogurt would have on the internals of a lactose intolerant person? Would it even effect them? I've seen something as benign as 1% Milk cause a lactose intolerant person to become a real life koffing. I'm happy I haven't regressed into my parents and sisters state of lactose intolerance, love my whole milk.

[Rman]

Not much.  The fermentation process nullifies much of the digestive issues even in lactose intolerant persons.

Some Dannon strawberry yogurt.

I try their Light and Fit yogurt, but sometimes that stuff gives me the shits.

Dude, go full fat Greek Yogurt, top with blueberries and you'll be in heaven.  Low fat, watery yogurt is garbage.  Don't worry about the fat content, since full fat yogurt is low in carbs and has no sugar, other than the natural milk sugars.  

How many times has this come up now? I'm losing track!

We should just make a thread. LOL.

[BlueTsunami]

Not much.  The fermentation process nullifies much of the digestive issues even in lactose intolerant persons.

Ahhh, figured as much. I need to get into healthy things I can quickly grab, instead of replacing all of it with a can of coke.

[archie4208]

Only one store in my entire town sells Greek Yogurt, and it is the fat free kind. :'(

[Kestastrophe]

any of guys building muscle mass? what do eat before/after your workout?

Since I lift in the mornings, I eat eggs before working out, and I always have a protein shake with whole milk immediately afterwards. And I eat every three hours

[duckman2000]

Not much.  The fermentation process nullifies much of the digestive issues even in lactose intolerant persons.

Some Dannon strawberry yogurt.

I try their Light and Fit yogurt, but sometimes that stuff gives me the shits.

Dude, go full fat Greek Yogurt, top with blueberries and you'll be in heaven.  Low fat, watery yogurt is garbage.  Don't worry about the fat content, since full fat yogurt is low in carbs and has no sugar, other than the natural milk sugars.  

How many times has this come up now? I'm losing track!

We should just make a thread. LOL.

A nutrition thread might not be a bad idea, really. Not sure if it's needed in a small forum like this, and I like talking about food, but a little FAQ might be useful.

[Cormacaroni]

Not much.  The fermentation process nullifies much of the digestive issues even in lactose intolerant persons.

Ahhh, figured as much. I need to get into healthy things I can quickly grab, instead of replacing all of it with a can of coke.

Aside: Rippotoe was once asked by a lactose intolerant kid if he could substitute yoghurt for the recommended gallon of milk a day. The answer was "Gallon of yoghurt"

The weird thing is, I feel like I could do that most days Michael from Burn Notice has nothing on me.

[cool breeze]

This is why you want pharmaceutical grade fish oil.

Is there a common brand or do you have any recommendations? also, what exactly is the difference?

Whole Foods and Trader Joes both have it.

yeah, Trader Joes has full fat Fage for ~$1.80.  They also have the Trader Joe brand greek yogurt that come in big tubs and you get more value, but I don't think it taste as good as fage.

[BlueTsunami]

Not much.  The fermentation process nullifies much of the digestive issues even in lactose intolerant persons.

Ahhh, figured as much. I need to get into healthy things I can quickly grab, instead of replacing all of it with a can of coke.

Aside: Rippotoe was once asked by a lactose intolerant kid if he could substitute yoghurt for the recommended gallon of milk a day. The answer was "Gallon of yoghurt"

The weird thing is, I feel like I could do that most days Michael from Burn Notice has nothing on me.

And I'm a believer in the powers of Milk and training. When I was hitting the weights hard, my gym buddies were wondering why I was making gains fairly quickly.... unsurprisingly I was the only one that was constantly drinking 1/3 Gallon of milk nearly everyday. Not the full gallon but still. That or genes, I don't know.

[Oblivion]

Is it a better idea to do a lot of pushups all at once, or to do smaller sets (say 20 pushups 5 times a day) throughout the day?

[Cormacaroni]

This is why you want pharmaceutical grade fish oil.

Is there a common brand or do you have any recommendations? also, what exactly is the difference?

Whole Foods and Trader Joes both have it.

yeah, Trader Joes has full fat Fage for ~$1.80.  They also have the Trader Joe brand greek yogurt that come in big tubs and you get more value, but I don't think it taste as good as fage.

http://www.ascentahealth.com/products/human/nutrasea-hp-200-ml#details

For example. The mercury scare I think is overrated - I've read that you get as much exposure to mercury walking around outside in a typical big city. Also, the mercury shouldn't be present in the oil - it'll be in the flesh of the fish.

[Cormacaroni]

Is it a better idea to do a lot of pushups all at once, or to do smaller sets (say 20 pushups 5 times a day) throughout the day?

Yes.

(serious answer)

[Oblivion]

Is it a better idea to do a lot of pushups all at once, or to do smaller sets (say 20 pushups 5 times a day) throughout the day?

Yes.

(serious answer)

 

[BlueTsunami]

Is it a better idea to do a lot of pushups all at once, or to do smaller sets (say 20 pushups 5 times a day) throughout the day?

Yes.

(serious answer)

 

[duckman2000]

The mercury scare I think is overrated - I've read that you get as much exposure to mercury walking around outside in a typical big city. Also, the mercury shouldn't be present in the oil - it'll be in the flesh of the fish.

The point is sort of that you don't want that exposure plus the exposure from fish. That's a little bit like saying that smoking is alright since you get exposed to all that arsenic from just living near industry anyway. I personally don't care all that much since there is a limit on how much of this crap an adult can absorb through regular diet anyway, but I'm more cautious about what I feed the kid. Wouldn't stop me from giving her mackerel, but I keep track of where it's caught.

[duckman2000]

So I tried a decline dumbbell press thing, and I slid right off the stupid bench. Not my first work-out related accident, but certainly the stupidest. Oh well, it made the kid's day.

[Mupepe]

Duckman

I was scared I would do that when getting up.

I bought a new fish oil supplement.  It has more per capsule so I don't have to take as many damn pills and it is pharmaceutical grade.  My gym had it pretty cheap too.  A 4 months supply for twenty bucks

Then they also got me to try a creatine supplement.  It was 7 bucks so if I don't get good results I won't mind too much. 

So I don't know if anyone here has ever tried it.  I know basics but I'm not too familiar.  This is what I figured I'd do...

About an hour before my workout I'll take about 2 grams of the powder with some milk.  Then immediately after my workout I'll take about 3 grams with my meal and 30 grams of sugar in my juice.

How about creatine loading?  Should I do it?  Some people say it's not necessary and others say you need to in order to see results.  So I have no idea.  Any advice would be welcomed.

[cool breeze]

This is why you want pharmaceutical grade fish oil.

Is there a common brand or do you have any recommendations? also, what exactly is the difference?

Whole Foods and Trader Joes both have it.

yeah, Trader Joes has full fat Fage for ~$1.80.  They also have the Trader Joe brand greek yogurt that come in big tubs and you get more value, but I don't think it taste as good as fage.

http://www.ascentahealth.com/products/human/nutrasea-hp-200-ml#details

For example. The mercury scare I think is overrated - I've read that you get as much exposure to mercury walking around outside in a typical big city. Also, the mercury shouldn't be present in the oil - it'll be in the flesh of the fish.

thanks

I found a store near here that carries it.  I'll probably get the one that also has vitamin d instead of the high potency one you linked to.  Two birds, one stone, etc etc.

[Oblivion]

Is it a better idea to do a lot of pushups all at once, or to do smaller sets (say 20 pushups 5 times a day) throughout the day?

Yes.

(serious answer)

 

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Do what? 100 at once or in smaller sets? He wasn't clear.

[Cormacaroni]

jesus, try exercising your brain sometime. Do both!

And if you can do a set of 100, as i've mentioned several times in this thread already, it's time to move on to something more challenging.

[duckman2000]

Or add something to it, like dumbbell rows. If you can do 100 of those with 50lb dumbbells, you may want to just go live in the jungle for a while.

[Oblivion]

jesus, try exercising your brain sometime.

Hrmph. 

And if you can do a set of 100, as i've mentioned several times in this thread already, it's time to move on to something more challenging.

I've only posted in this thread like 3 or 4 times, and considering that it's 20 pages, forgive me if I've missed you mentioning it before. AIGHT?!

[Cormacaroni]

it wouldn't be 20 pgs if it wasn't for everybody asking the same questions over and over

ok, you get a pass this time. Now drop down and give me 50!

[The Fake Shemp]

Cormac, I did some measurements today. Thought you'd might be interested.

I carved 2% off my BMI since January 17th. I didn't think that was a lot, but I was told it was progress. Now I shaved off two inches from my hips, three inches from my waist and two inches from my chest (against measurements taken 01/17) - but I gained an inch on my bicep, an inch on my thigh and an inch on my calf. That was kind of deflating. All in all, I've lost 20 lbs. since January 17th.

My goal is 299 lbs. by June 7th (my brother's birthday).

I also had steak and eggs today, and I thought of you. (I lifted weights today - beat my previous record, so it was well earned).

[cool breeze]

Liquid fish oil taste is just rancid tasting stuff

It's like the funk of ten-thousand fish in your mouth at the same time, then there is an aftertaste of apple.

[Mupepe]

Mine comes in capsules and I don't taste anything

Will: the added size could be contributed to muscle growth pushing your fat out further. It seems to be in line with the workouts you have been doing

Yesterday was my first day of taking creatine. My chest and arms are definitely swollen. My mother in law even asked about it today. I also apparently did not drink enough water yesterday. I kept waking up all night and having to get water. I was dehydrated as fuck and had a headache this morning. I gotta be careful. They say I should drink around two gallons each day of water.

[Cormacaroni]

...or not take creatine. What is the point of it again?

[Mupepe]

That it was 7 bucks so I figured why not!  That's really about it. If it doesn't do anything ill just stop taking it. No biggie.

[Cormacaroni]

Good job, Willco!

Those big biceps are going to be problem, like duckman's butt. Better get back on the eliptical til that icky muscle melts away!

[Cormacaroni]

That it was 7 bucks so I figured why not!  That's really about it. If it doesn't do anything ill just stop taking it. No biggie.

I applaud this spirit of scientific investigation.

[The Fake Shemp]

Good job, Willco!

Those big biceps are going to be problem, like duckman's butt. Better get back on the eliptical til that icky muscle melts away!

Are you being facetious?

[Mupepe]

 

[Cormacaroni]

Good job, Willco!

Those big biceps are going to be problem, like duckman's butt. Better get back on the eliptical til that icky muscle melts away!

Are you being facetious?

[The Fake Shemp]

I can't really tell. I would imagine that any significant mass gain would be viewed as a bad thing on my legs. Maybe not arms, but I would hope my legs would shrink.

[BlueTsunami]

Went trekking in the wooded trails around my apartment for two hours in my Vibrams and man, that shit was a workout in itself. A good amount of muscle groups in my legs felt like they been pushed rather hard. Slowly breaking them in and getting used to the outside barefoot walking before I run.

[Cormacaroni]

I can't really tell. I would imagine that any significant mass gain would be viewed as a bad thing on my legs. Maybe not arms, but I would hope my legs would shrink.

It might, if you keep gaining an inch every month. But that's pretty unlikely, since you're not doing anything to promote huge muscle growth. More likely you'll just keep losing fat and they'll shrink, as will the rest of you. I don't know anything much about this level of fat loss though.

[The Fake Shemp]

Hey I lift weights! I do the machines once a week, and work with my 20 lb. dumbbells every other day! On Sunday, I do a fake-me-out deadlifts and hammer curls and chest presses and stuff! Also, I bought a new dumbbell set with removable plate and I did bicep curls with a 35 lb. dumbbell (which is new for me).

I try! I mean, I'm no you, but I am trying.

In terms of my lower body, I've been doing squats, but I don't know if that builds muscle.

It was just weird that I lost three inches on my thigh and calf, and then gained an inch on both a month and a half later. Y'know?

[Cormacaroni]

You need to understand that in context, Willco. Gaining an inch of muscle on your biceps is a pretty huge amount of muscle - Arnie said you need to gain 10lbs in bodyweight for each inch you want to add to your biceps. You are lifting weights, yes, but you are not lifting weights on that scale. Few people are. That's why I say it's unlikely to continue.

[duckman2000]

Good job, Willco!

Those big biceps are going to be problem, like duckman's butt. Better get back on the eliptical til that icky muscle melts away!

I'm alright with it now, my new pants make it work!

[Mupepe]

Pics plz

[Mupepe]

So day 2 of creatine.  I thought yesterday was an anomaly, but all my shits are bright green.  They feel really great though!  Also, no more headache since I've been drinking enough water now.  I went and got a two gallon jug that I have sitting next to me at work and I've actually put myself on a water drinking schedule.

Now the bad part, I've gained about 4 pounds in water weight.  My pants feel quite a bit tighter!  I can feel it all in my stomach too.  It doesn't really make me look fat because of the way my body holds water weight.  I just look bloated (can't even tell with a shirt on).  But man, I fucking feel it.  Tonight will be my weight lifting night again and I'll finally get to see if I get any difference. 

Oh and as far as recovery, usually I'm still a bit sore at this point.  I feel fucking great.  No soreness.  None.  Whatsoever.  I was sore yesterday, but it's completely gone today.

[WrikaWrek]

I got a friend of mine going at the same gym as me now, so it's easier now. Today i ran 2.5 km in 15 min, it was cool.

[Mupepe]

Soooo... tonight was pretty fucking great.

I hit the gym and I felt damn fantastic.  I got some great results.  I breezed through my bench press.  My deadlift is now at 165 and it felt incredible.  Squat was pretty amazing.  I just felt good.  I just felt like I breezed through all of it.  I've been having a lot of good days recently. 

[Cormacaroni]

Squat, deadlift and press is a proven recipe for feeling great, man

I bet you're sleeping like a log too. It's almost impossible not to.

[Rman]

Squat, deadlift, bench press and power clean were the four big ones our coach made us do when I played football. Shit works. I haven't done a deadlift or clean since high school though.

Your coach knew his stuff.  I'd add a standing overhead press and maybe some dips and pull ups and you're all set.

[Green Shinobi]

Oh yeah, dips, overhead press and a few others were in there, but those were the big four.

When I think about what better shape I was then (10 years ago now), I feel like one of those RPG characters who's lost all of his power in between saving the world and the start of the sequel.

[Green Shinobi]

http://boringoldraphael.tumblr.com/post/151808014/rule-number-one-is-dont-be-a-dick

I'm not giving anyone tips, you fucking cunt. I haven't lifted seriously in years, and there are others who are far more qualified to do that. I'm wasting time casually shooting the shit on a message board. I don't expect to be attacked for making posts that serve only to back up what other posters have already said in this thread.

What the fuck is your problem, seriously?

[Kestastrophe]

I feel like one of those RPG characters who's lost all of his power in between saving the world and the start of the sequel.

Interesting article on artificial vs natural sweeteners:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704706304575107560929031460.html

The Corn Refiners Association has been running television ads that try to counter the perception that the syrup is inferior. On its Web site, www.sweetsurprise.com, the association says high fructose corn syrup "is simply a kind of corn sugar. It has the same number of calories as sugar and is handled similarly by the body."

fud?

[Cormacaroni]

Saying it is the same as sugar is hardly a ringing endorsement, dude. Refined sugar is about as bad as it gets, nutritionally-speaking.

[Mupepe]

Squat, deadlift and press is a proven recipe for feeling great, man

I bet you're sleeping like a log too. It's almost impossible not to.

Oh yes.  I sleep great!  Thanks for all your advice, man!  I made more progress in the last month than I did in two months on my own. 

I also figured that due to my work schedule and whatnot, it will be really hard to meet my protein requirement everyday.  So I've bought a bottle of whey protein.  On days that I won't be making it I'll go ahead and supplement with the protein after my workout.  I'd rather get it with real foods, but I figure getting it from the protein shake is better than not getting it at all.

[duckman2000]

Thanks for the insight, GS.  Any other tips from your time in freshman football?

http://boringoldraphael.tumblr.com/post/151808014/rule-number-one-is-dont-be-a-dick

I'm not giving anyone tips, you fucking cunt. I haven't lifted seriously in years, and there are others who are far more qualified to do that. I'm wasting time casually shooting the shit on a message board. I don't expect to be attacked for making posts that serve only to back up what other posters have already said in this thread.

What the fuck is your problem, seriously?

Am I missing something here?