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Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1740 on: November 10, 2010, 08:49:03 PM »
Well said, Mups.

Also, don't eat from taco trucks :lol
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« Reply #1741 on: November 10, 2010, 08:57:39 PM »
agreed :'(

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« Reply #1742 on: November 10, 2010, 11:18:58 PM »
Thank you for all the advice. If eel great not eating a million things.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1743 on: November 11, 2010, 07:51:24 AM »
Why the fuck is am nintenho posting again in this thread?
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« Reply #1744 on: November 11, 2010, 09:14:50 AM »
Thank you for all the advice. If eel great not eating a million things.
it's amazing how good it feels when you realize you've been overeating.  it took me a really long time.

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« Reply #1745 on: November 11, 2010, 02:21:17 PM »
Did something this morning that I've not done in a while.  I got up early and went to the gym.  Most of the time I just go after work or right before it.  It felt pretty good to be up that early too. 

I decided to put more focus on my cardio, starting today.  I started out by going straight to the treadmill when I got there.  I suppose that I didn't stretch well enough before getting on though, so I could only stand about 18 minutes before having to take a break. 

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Mups, I appreciated the advice you gave me.  I can't say that I'm avoiding the machines all-together.  But I am being less focused on them.  I don't know your feelings about the Smith machine, but I don't think it's such a bad deal.  It really helped me with my benches today.  I don't view it as a machine as much as I do a safer way to use those kinds of weights without a spotter.

I was able to jump on a bike after doing some weights and using the Roman chair for some situps.  (I really like that thing, BTW.)  I only lasted 8 minutes on the bike because I was still slightly sore from the treadmill.  I didn't hurt myself or anything, but I was just stupid from not stretching properly before I got in there to begin with.

I felt so good when I got home that the wife and I played Just Dance 2 for the Wii and burned a few extra calories!

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« Reply #1746 on: November 11, 2010, 02:24:43 PM »
Don't be mad for the double post.  But I had another question to ask:

Does anyone here use any weight-loss supplements?  I know it's kind of a contraversial topic, and I'm sure I'll be frowned upon by the fitness gods.  I've tried Adipex in the past and didn't really care for it.  I've also used Stackers but realized they were just caffeine in a capsule.  Right now I'm taking Zantrex, but I'm not sure how I feel about it.  It says that it is a fat burner, but the only time I notice it doing anything is when it's giving me an energy boost, like the Stackers did.

Ideas?
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« Reply #1747 on: November 11, 2010, 02:48:04 PM »
ok I'm on my phone right now so i can't elaborate much and hopefully cormac will jump in before i get home but the smith machines are terrible dude.  you're not accomplishing much if anything on them except wasting your time.  they limit your range of motion so terribly that they're barely effective.  ill come back with more info later. but do a quick Google if you have time.

also, no experience with supplements outside of creatine and fish oil

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1748 on: November 12, 2010, 02:10:21 PM »
Has anyone here tried Martin Berkham's Lean Gains approach?

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« Reply #1749 on: November 12, 2010, 02:16:58 PM »
oh shit, forgot to get back to andrwfields.  anyways, here you go man...

http://www.bing.com/search?FORM=IEFM1&q=smith+machine+why+is+it+bad

That should be enough.  Seriously.  They're terrible and can actually hurt you on certain exercises because of the limited range of motion.  Not to mention, it basically comes down to wasting your time.  The physical benefit from these machines is little to none.  It's an ego boost for people who are either too scared to get on real machines or who would rather be able to throw out big numbers.  Avoid if you're serious about making the most out of your workout.

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You do not work your stabilizers and muscles in a real range of motion over all 3 planes of motion. Machines are bad....unless you want sub par athletic performance and increased risk of injury due to muscle imbalances and weaknesses. People do squats on a smith because they can't do them free form...so instead of working on their weakness, they make the exercise easier. Short cuts in fitness...will lead to short cuts in sub-par results.
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« Reply #1750 on: November 18, 2010, 04:53:51 PM »
I just got myself a new gym, I bought it for a very good price from my sisters husband who moved out of the country, about $250.
I have just finished unpacking it and putting all the parts together, haven't tried it yet.

The one to the left is used for training the legs, I believe. The one to the right is a bench press which also allows you to adjust the angle at which the back support is set at, attached to it is also some sort of device to train the legs as well. I also have 2 dumbbells, a lifting bar and about 150 kg in weights.
I think this will be enough for me to train all the different body parts, I am just not sure if I remember all the different exercises that I can do with what I have.
Is there any website that lists the different exercises and their variations categorically by muscle group? preferably with some sort of animations or videos?
I will also be happy with taking exercise recommendations from you guys who check this thread frequently.
I also forgot to mention that I am a hard gainer, so should I eat 3 huge meals a day? or shall I make them 5 smaller once instead? Is it ok to have protein shakes with breakfast?
Yeah, I also forgot to mention my goal, I just want to a gain a couple of kilos by summer so I don't look like a coat hanger when I am wearing my t-shirts. Thanks in advance.

Edit: just found this:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/
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« Reply #1751 on: November 23, 2010, 02:16:52 AM »
I've been working out pretty hard in the last 3 months.  I've kinda let myself go in the last 2 years.  I'm 5'10 with a wide frame so at my normal weight of 175 to 180, I looked quite lean.  But I've been at 200 for most of the last two years and got bloated up to 210 right before I began the workout routine.  Part of the weight gain was due to spraining an ankle during basketball which made me stopped exercising for a long time.  The other reason is that my metabolism has just slowed down with age.  I used to have a really high metabolism so I could hit 3000 to 3500 calories of junk without getting fat but now the carbs and fats pile on really quickly.   :(

Anyways, I decided that I was going to have work much harder than before to get into shape.  I wanted to make one last good attempt at dunking on a regulation hoop before my joints get too old.  Another goal was to gain more upper body strength.  People on the court often comment that I'm really strong but most of the strength are just from my back and lower body.  My bench has always been pretty weak at about 10 reps at 135 with a lot of strain.  My deadlift and squat were pretty good though as I have a naturally wide back and thick legs. 

My plan has gone relatively well, I'm down to about 195.  My waist is actually about the same as it was at 180 so I've gained quite a bit of muscle. 

After three months, here are my approximate numbers at 3 x 10 reps with 60 second rest, previous best in brackets:


Flat Bench 175 (135)

Military Bench 100 (65)

EZ bar curl 80 (50)

Deadlift 255 (215)

Squat 265 (265)  Not much improvement in squat because my left knee joint gets inflamed whenever I push it too hard. 




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« Reply #1752 on: November 23, 2010, 08:46:08 PM »
Oh snap! The Doctor is back!

Try chinup/pull ups for upper body strength.  You can also get a weight belt to add more resistance.
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« Reply #1753 on: November 23, 2010, 09:07:56 PM »
3x10 reps is a weird scheme to base a whole strength and conditioning regime on. It's too many reps for strength, but too much rest for conditioning. I'd do something like that occasionally, for sure, but not all the time. Is that how you typically work out, or is that just what you're using as a benchmark?
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1754 on: November 23, 2010, 09:26:36 PM »
Went online to the GNC store just to take a closer look at some of their products last night around 11pm.  When I got there I noticed they were having one of their 1-day sales, and yesterday's sale was on their vitamin packs.  I got the GNC Mega Men Sport pack. 

I know a few people that take these, and they say the benefits are amazing.  Not to mention the fact that it's got a multivitamin in there to help me out for generalized health.  The guy from the GNC store that I went to last week told me that I should be at least taking a multivitamin with fish oil.  He said they were necessary for the body anyway and I would need them if I wanted to have good results with a themogenic (weight loss supplement).
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1755 on: November 23, 2010, 09:53:51 PM »
You don't need multivitamins if you eat real food. Fish oil is good but you know...eat real fish.
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« Reply #1756 on: November 23, 2010, 10:08:43 PM »
I hate fish so I take fish oil and it really helps with recovery.  I took some vitamins for a while but I didn't see any difference.  But my problem is generally getting too many calories since I love to eat so it shouldn't come as a surprise.  By the way, GNC guys are generally full of shit and if they think you don't know what you're talking about they'll BS you and try to sell you all sorts of shit.  I just do my research online and go buy what I need.  And I usually ignore whatever advice they give me "take this, man.  it's amazing"  no thanks.  It's not that I don't think a lot of the shit they recommend works in some fashion.  But I'm sure it has downsides and I can get whatever it's got naturally elsewhere. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1757 on: November 23, 2010, 10:33:09 PM »
You don't need multivitamins if you eat real food. Fish oil is good but you know...eat real fish.

For someone like me to get the proper vitamins that they need, I would need access to a supermarket with a decent variety of fresh foods (organic would probably help out a lot as well).  What I have in my town is a Save-A-Lot.  Their fruits and veggies section consists of salad packs, tomatoes, cucumbers, and some sliced-up peppers.  They don't sell fresh fish.  All of their stuff is sent in to them.  It's not to be said that all of the vitamins and nutrients a body needs couldn't be found there, but they'd have to sort through so much other shit to get it first.

I work with a nutritionist at the hospital, and she was the one that told me to take a multivitamin.  She said the only other option was driving to the next town and shopping at their groceries.  The next closest town is a 30 minute drive + a 15 minute drive to get to the store itself.  This was the reason I didn't get a gym membership there either.

Poor people is as poor people can do.

I hate fish so I take fish oil and it really helps with recovery.  I took some vitamins for a while but I didn't see any difference.  But my problem is generally getting too many calories since I love to eat so it shouldn't come as a surprise.  By the way, GNC guys are generally full of shit and if they think you don't know what you're talking about they'll BS you and try to sell you all sorts of shit.  I just do my research online and go buy what I need.  And I usually ignore whatever advice they give me "take this, man.  it's amazing"  no thanks.  It's not that I don't think a lot of the shit they recommend works in some fashion.  But I'm sure it has downsides and I can get whatever it's got naturally elsewhere. 

Yeah, I figured out a long time ago that the GNC guys were doing what every other salesperson is trying to do (sell their shit, and pretend it's all good).  I came in looking for the multivitamins, he suggested the fish oil and the thermogenics.  I told him I already had Flaxseed oil, and he tried to make it out like flaxseed wasn't good for you.  When I pointed out that the stuff being put in the capsule was the same as the fish oil, just from a different source, he shut down on that point.  He really wanted me to buy their fish oil. 

I got to looking at the thermogenic that he wanted me to buy today.  All it is is stuff that is already in the multivitamin that I'm going to be taking, and 100mg of caffeine!  Fuck that.  I'll drink a cup or two of black coffee before I go to the gym.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1758 on: November 23, 2010, 10:50:02 PM »
Well, you will make poor progress, if any. If a 45 minute drive to get good food for you and your family is too much, I don't really know what to say.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1759 on: November 23, 2010, 11:03:56 PM »
You don't need multivitamins if you eat real food. Fish oil is good but you know...eat real fish.

For someone like me to get the proper vitamins that they need, I would need access to a supermarket with a decent variety of fresh foods (organic would probably help out a lot as well).  What I have in my town is a Save-A-Lot.  Their fruits and veggies section consists of salad packs, tomatoes, cucumbers, and some sliced-up peppers.  They don't sell fresh fish.  All of their stuff is sent in to them.  It's not to be said that all of the vitamins and nutrients a body needs couldn't be found there, but they'd have to sort through so much other shit to get it first.

I work with a nutritionist at the hospital, and she was the one that told me to take a multivitamin.  She said the only other option was driving to the next town and shopping at their groceries.  The next closest town is a 30 minute drive + a 15 minute drive to get to the store itself.  This was the reason I didn't get a gym membership there either.

Poor people is as poor people can do.
You should try to get a balanced diet if you can but I wouldn't spring for the organics, it doesn't actually have more nutrients.  Obviously vitamin deficiencies lead to a lot of problems but is there any specific reason for that nutritionist to think you needed more vitamins?  When it comes to people in GNC or whatever, don't trust anything they say.  They just want to you to spend money and believe it or not, a vitamin manufacturer doesn't need FDA approval for any of the promises they put on the label.  It's a bullshit industry..

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1760 on: November 24, 2010, 12:57:02 AM »
I only take Carlson's fish oil as a supplement.  More for Omega 6/Omega 3 balance, since I dine out quite a bit.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1761 on: November 28, 2010, 07:33:51 PM »
Deep snow trekking is some hell of a work-out

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« Reply #1762 on: December 01, 2010, 01:48:31 PM »
Signed up for the Rock n Roll Seattle Half Marathon the other day. It's not until June, but it's good incentive to keep running in the winter.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1763 on: December 02, 2010, 09:40:32 AM »
Got really out of shape.

Haven't done anything these last 4 months, i lost a lot of what i had built...only thing i do regularly is play football, but all that does is keep my cardio in check.

So lazy....i feel ashamed right now. Now i actually feel fat, i think i'm in worse shape than i was before i started working out...

Anyway, gonna be taking this seriously from today on. Gonna be posting pics of the transformation. A lot has been written in this thread, and i gotta thank Cormac for all the great info.

I'll detail the workouts in the future, my goal is to reach around May with a figure i'm proud of... Anyway, this is me as of last week i guess:




 :-\ :'( :-\ :'( :-\

First steps: Back to a diet where carbs come 90% of the time from Veggies...

And going back to the gym, which i'm about to do right now!


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« Reply #1764 on: December 02, 2010, 09:47:28 AM »
I took a straight month or so off.  I didn't lose much from what I can tell.  My max 5x5 is about 5 lbs less than what it was when I stopped.  I just feel less solid.  I got back on it Monday.  I tried getting back on it a few times over the last month but nothing stuck so I'm starting over again completely and I started slow doing just a few exercises and I'm going to keep putting them back on over the next week until I'm back on my routine completely.  Fucking holidays makes it hard.

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« Reply #1765 on: December 02, 2010, 08:32:14 PM »
This dude went from powerlifting to body weight training exercises with impressive results.  The changes in body composition are ridiculous.

[youtube=560,345]SxR242I-KEg[/youtube]


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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1766 on: December 02, 2010, 09:07:15 PM »
holy shit, a 300lb guy doing L-pullups, that's crazy. I know a Crossfit guy who can do those, plus muscle-ups etc at about 250lbs. Built like a truck, ex-linebacker at Arizona. His DL is around 550lbs too. The guy is an absolute machine but even then, he can't really compete with normal-sized Crossfitters who are almost as strong but smoke him at the conditioning-based stuff. I suspect this guy is similar.
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« Reply #1767 on: December 03, 2010, 12:13:01 AM »
Wrika - good luck, and have fun. Doesn't look like you have that far to go though! And props for going back and reading the thread. I'm a dick about it, I know, but it's kinda the first test. If you can't be bothered to read what people have already written, there is no way you're actually gonna implement their advice anyway.

I'm being very slack myself but the diet is so dialled in at this point that I'm still losing weight, although probably no-one but myself would notice. It's pissing my workout partner off no end, 'cause he continues to eat shit and try to run it off when I'm not around :lol
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1768 on: December 08, 2010, 12:04:50 AM »
3x10 reps is a weird scheme to base a whole strength and conditioning regime on. It's too many reps for strength, but too much rest for conditioning. I'd do something like that occasionally, for sure, but not all the time. Is that how you typically work out, or is that just what you're using as a benchmark?

It's just a test to approximate my maximum lift since max is supposedly around 1.33 times what your 10 rep set is.  I hardly ever lift with someone spotting so that's what I gotta do to see where I'm at.
 
Usually, I have no fixed sets/reps.  I like to mix things up so that my body never gets adjusted to any routine. 

Lately, I've been moving into a cutting phase instead of bulking up.  All the muscle weight I've gained in the upper body actually seems to have a detrimental effect on my vertical leap.  For awhile, doing heavier squats seem to offset the balance but then the vertical started to go downwards again.  I can barely grab rim now from a standstill. 

From now on, I think I'm sticking with lower reps and heavier weights so that I will keep increasing power without gaining weight.  The other goal is to lower the fat percentage.  I've managed to lose 5-7 lbs since the last post but unfortunately muscle mass seems to be lost at a higher rate than fat with cardio + less calories. 

Is there any way to minimize the muscle loss while I'm cutting?

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1769 on: December 08, 2010, 03:25:08 AM »
Keep lifting heavy! As long as you keep eating enough to lift heavy, but not excessively, you'll see nice body comp changes even if your weight doesn't plummet.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1770 on: December 09, 2010, 01:11:18 AM »
Have y'all seen this guy? 

He doesn't look that impressive but his performance numbers are well in excess of NFL and NBA players that are in his size range.  Just ridiculous. 

[youtube=560,345]H1-DkxxFxyo[/youtube]

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« Reply #1771 on: December 16, 2010, 04:20:26 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24943851&postcount=16393

Holy crap this guy is an idiot.  And his follow up response isn't any better.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1772 on: December 16, 2010, 06:49:38 PM »
Not sure what he expects after a week of doing a few push-ups, yeah.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1773 on: December 16, 2010, 06:54:42 PM »
CrushDance has always been "special"
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« Reply #1774 on: December 16, 2010, 08:08:52 PM »
What's frustrating about people like that is that they want to write 2,000 words a day moaning about their unique and special physical problems, needs and desires but can't process a single sentence that is all they really need to know to achieve all their basic goals. They're delighted to get 400 responses to their whining, so they string everyone along, keeping the drama going as much as possible. Protesting their innocence to the stars! I'm doing all the right things! It doesn't work! I'm doomed! You're all liars!

...and then eventually the truth comes out - they 'can't live without pizza' or they don't work out like they said they were because of weather, work, money blah blah blah. I know this will always be the case, because barring serious illness, there really are only two problems: diet and exercise. The solutions are simple, but they're hard. They're not difficult PROBLEMS; they're difficult PROCESSES. Talking really achieves very little for this type of person. The real talking comes later, once you've gotten out of the 'unhealthy' zone and you want to take your fitness more seriously, to achieve athletic or aesthetic goals etc. Talking to someone like CrushDance should be just 'Read the OP. Read the OP. Read the OP'
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1775 on: December 16, 2010, 08:16:17 PM »
If that dude is working out as hard as he says, he should be seeing some big results even though he's not doing it optimally.  He might not be gaining muscle but he should have lost a ton of fat. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1776 on: December 16, 2010, 08:23:22 PM »
Well, we don't know the time frame. But starting from 260lbs, the weight should be coming off REAL fast. Our bodies don't want to be that big.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1777 on: December 17, 2010, 02:04:53 AM »
Just curious as to what you guys do when you've got the "crud" (as they call it in the south) a.k.a. a cold, congestion, runny nose, ect?

I wanted to go to the gym today, but after getting through work, my body just wasn't feeling it.  I honestly don't think it would have done much good if I was stopping to hack up a lung every 30 seconds on the elliptical anyway...

Do you guys still try to do some sort of exercise?  Just maintain a healthy diet?  Or do whatever it takes to get back to 100% then go hard back at it?
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1778 on: December 17, 2010, 06:35:12 AM »
My rule of thumb is - above the neck, fine, go work out, it'll probably make you feel better. If it goes below the neck and into the lungs and gut, sit it out.

If you're having aerobic problems, then (prepare to gasp at the elegant simplicity of this!): DON'T DO AEROBIC EXERCISE! i.e. lift some heavy things instead.
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« Reply #1779 on: December 17, 2010, 06:57:31 AM »
btw, you might be surprised at how rarely you get sick if you just eat and exercise right. I've missed 2 days of work in the past 3-4 years, during which time I've had to share my living space with a miniature plague carrier, not to mention riding the Tokyo subway most days. I'm always the last one to get sick in our house, but the fastest to recover. We weren't meant to be sickly fat weaklings! Our bodies WANT to be healthy. You might just have to suck it up and fight through some crappy days in order to get there.
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« Reply #1780 on: December 17, 2010, 10:17:39 AM »
Most of the time, working out while sick actually makes me feel better.  But there have been a couple of times where I knew it wasn't worth it.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1781 on: December 17, 2010, 10:36:01 AM »
There are illnesses only a breakfast burrito can cure  ::)

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« Reply #1782 on: December 17, 2010, 10:38:15 AM »
you're so mean!!!

 :)  In all seriousness, I at least know what I'm doing wrong and accept it and its consequences.  I have taken a step to eating out once a week.  I've been making everything at home and watching my portions.  I've been losing about 2 pounds a week for a while this way.  My gains aren't as huge as when I was gorging on fast food, but that's the price I gotta pay i guess.  Still making about 6 rep gains when I deload for the mid and low range.  On the high range, I'm making gains of about 10 reps still.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1783 on: December 17, 2010, 01:26:02 PM »
Anyone here done a 5/3/1 protocol? 

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« Reply #1784 on: December 25, 2010, 01:40:47 PM »
So did you guys feel about this year in terms of fitness?

I hit some good PRs on all my major lift, except cleans.  I need to see a trainer to fix my form, honestly.  I still want to shed some more fat and improve body composition, so I'm looking to dial in my diet a bit more.

But for the New Year, I want to add some skill based stuff--gymnastics and some kettlebell movements.

What about you guys?

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1785 on: December 25, 2010, 03:14:55 PM »
Shit.  I fell off the wagon awhile ago.  My ass is getting back on tomorrow.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1786 on: December 25, 2010, 03:40:27 PM »
I had a bad week of cheating or w/e, but I've been staying on my weight wathcers diet and actually started running/walking raps around the local gymnasium and it's fun and it feels great to be better, but my sex drive has driven way the fuck up and that really sucks.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1787 on: December 25, 2010, 09:22:14 PM »
i'm down to 175ish and eating 1500 cal/day, but my weight loss has kinda stopped. i get about 45 mins of intense cardio and 30 mins of weights 5 days/week. am i in "starvation mode" here -- should i up my calories? kinda wondering why my weight loss has plateau'd since october.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1788 on: December 25, 2010, 09:36:24 PM »
btw, you might be surprised at how rarely you get sick if you just eat and exercise right. I've missed 2 days of work in the past 3-4 years, during which time I've had to share my living space with a miniature plague carrier, not to mention riding the Tokyo subway most days. I'm always the last one to get sick in our house, but the fastest to recover. We weren't meant to be sickly fat weaklings! Our bodies WANT to be healthy. You might just have to suck it up and fight through some crappy days in order to get there.

This. And being complacent and inactive is a recipe for constant issues as far as general fatigue (due to sleeping problems) and general sickness. Funny how taxing your body in such a way really fortifies it for those things.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1789 on: December 25, 2010, 11:35:28 PM »
i'm down to 175ish and eating 1500 cal/day, but my weight loss has kinda stopped. i get about 45 mins of intense cardio and 30 mins of weights 5 days/week. am i in "starvation mode" here -- should i up my calories? kinda wondering why my weight loss has plateau'd since october.

Well, it definitely gets tougher to lose the weight the closer you get to your ideal. 'more calories' is not the right answer though. If I had to guess it would be 'more of the right calories, less of the wrong calories' but I don't know enough about your diet to really guess. Sho Nuff tells me 'shit burgers' are a regular feature of your lunchtimes so I'm guessing there is still work to be done there.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1790 on: December 25, 2010, 11:37:45 PM »
nah, when we go red robin, i get the lettuce-wrapped chicken "burger" with no mayo and a side salad instead of fries. (geez! even tvc gets a boca burger there.) my diet is solid, with the worst thing being the occasional 100 or so calories of popchips. chicken/tofu for lunches and dinners, by and large, supplemented by protein shakes and fiberful dried fruit/veggie bars.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1791 on: December 25, 2010, 11:44:23 PM »
tofu is horrid subhuman food, avoid avoid avoid.

Chicken is fine but what's on the side? What do you drink? And dried fruit is something you should only have sparingly, even if it's not the kind that comes with added sugar. Fruit in general is only recommended for people who have already lost the weight.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1792 on: December 25, 2010, 11:53:45 PM »
also, there is no such thing as '45 mins of intense cardio' - if you did that 5 times a week, you'd be dead. 'Intense cardio' is measured in seconds, not minutes. Trotting on a treadmill or on a bike is very far from the max intensity you are capable of.

You can tell yourself you are doing great in every way, man, but the scale will not lie to you. You can do the math - you say your exercise is sorted out, and your diet is solid - but your weight loss has stalled for 3 months. Doesn't add up. 
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1793 on: December 26, 2010, 11:40:01 AM »
hm,, alright. i'll turn the diet tracker back on and make sure the protein stays high. i've cut out cheese/nuts in general because they seem to cause issues, but that coulda been due to overexamination of minor weight spikes.

i drink water and diet soda. nothing else, really. is tofu actually bad for me? i like it!
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1794 on: December 26, 2010, 09:38:43 PM »
Well, you like cheeseburgers too. Doesn't mean it's good for you.

Tofu is made from beans, making it instantly suspect, and they do horrible things to it including bleaching. It's a 'last gasp' protein source for vegans and such, no self-respecting omnivore should touch it. Then again, if you're drinking diet soda you obviously don't care much about food additives and such.

If you're eating the right stuff, there should be no need to track calories and macronutrients. Your appetite will do everything for you. Your hormones are actually very efficient if you can just un-derange them for a while.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1795 on: December 27, 2010, 10:29:24 AM »
I'm pretty hppy with what I accomplished this year.  My weight has been spiking like a motherfucker, but that's my fault and I'm not surprised.  I keep getting off my diet so I decided to make sustainable changes, like starting to not eat out.  I've eaten out 3 times in the last 4 weeks.  Been dropping about 2 pounds a week and I'm still eatin the stuff I like, but just eating at home.  That does wonders.  I'm lifting about 100 lbs more on each lift than I did a year ago (when I was still desperately trying to figure this weightlifting stuff out).  Thanks, Cormac!  And that's with crapping out about 3 or 4 months this year.  All in all, I'm happy.  Even though I've gained weight, I don't look the way I did before.  My arms are solid, even my gut is solid instead of a bowl of jelly.  My sex drive and energy are way up and so is my confidence. 

Next year I'm getting my punching bag again and I'm going to add that in after weights for my cardio and for general training.  I've missed it and now it's time to condition a little.  I've given up on most general cardio while I weight lift.  I know it can be done, and I know it's just my lazy ass not wanting to.  But riding a bike and or going for a jog cuts too much into my gains and kills my energy for that day, not to mention extends my exercise time period by too much.  But I've felt good going for a game of basketball or something after I lift so I can do it, I just need to find the right activity.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1796 on: December 27, 2010, 10:33:26 AM »
Would I be better off just dropping diet soda from my diet completely? I really like carbonated drinks they feel good to my throat, but selzter water is too expensive here.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1797 on: December 27, 2010, 10:52:24 AM »
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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1798 on: December 27, 2010, 02:37:46 PM »
Anyone here done a 5/3/1 protocol? 

I've looked into it but the fact that I don't usually have a lifting partner limits my output on the heavy week.  It's still a good schedule to get into and will give good results in a short time since it focuses on the best compound lifts.  I've actually seen better gains now that I go light every 4th week, but I'm still just getting started (1 year now with heavy weights) after being a lazy desk jockey for 5 years without touching weights, so I'd see decent gains straining on the toilet, much less doing deadlifts.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2010 edition
« Reply #1799 on: December 27, 2010, 07:21:47 PM »
5/3/1 is an advanced protocol, I seriously doubt anyone here needs to look into it other than T EXP (if he's still around).
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