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Van Cruncheon

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3360 on: November 14, 2011, 11:56:44 PM »
Press or bench press?

oops, bench press

and i'm sure you musclebombers are unimpressed, but for me, it was a nice arbitrary milestone i was happy to hit so FUCK YA HATAZ

Nuthing but respeck, old man.  Those numbers make you stronger than most NBA 1st rounders.  Now go and try to get your MP to the same level. 

mp? anyhow, thanks for the props. i feel like a wuss when i go to the gym and see these stringy lookin' motherfuckers poppin' off benches of 215+ like it's nothing. my trainer looks like he's made of rope and balsa wood but it's CRAZY what he can bench
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3361 on: November 15, 2011, 08:17:37 PM »
MP=military press

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3362 on: November 15, 2011, 08:28:26 PM »
Btw, it's not surprising to see skinny guys lift a lot despite their weights, especially on the bench press which is easily the most popular lift in American gyms.  Part of lifting more is getting your neural system to adjust to the heavier weights.  My workout partner has increased his max bench by 50lbs in 3 months despite staying at virtually the same weight. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3363 on: November 15, 2011, 08:38:59 PM »
185 for your height (6ft?) is not that skinny though. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3364 on: November 15, 2011, 09:35:06 PM »
Press or bench press?

oops, bench press

and i'm sure you musclebombers are unimpressed, but for me, it was a nice arbitrary milestone i was happy to hit so FUCK YA HATAZ

Nah.  That's impressive.  I'm stuck at 165.  Upper body stuff kills me. 

Van Cruncheon

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3365 on: November 16, 2011, 12:05:54 AM »
i'm aiming to get to 175, losing 10 more lbs would be perfect. man, they don't come off easy, though. i don't wanns be skinny and ropey, it's not a good look no homo (yes homo)
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3366 on: November 16, 2011, 12:16:23 AM »
Van Chruncheon, have you tried leangains.com?  I don't follow everything he suggests but working out after 12-14 hours of fasting with nothing but a BCAA drink did help me get leaner. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3367 on: November 16, 2011, 01:55:10 AM »
BCAA?

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« Reply #3368 on: November 16, 2011, 12:54:42 PM »
BCAA?

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:drool i like this diet plan
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3369 on: November 16, 2011, 12:55:31 PM »
i'll give it a shot. fasting works well for me with my crazy work schedule.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3370 on: November 16, 2011, 02:12:09 PM »
My flat bench press has always been terrible. For whatever reason my incline press is better than my bench.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3371 on: November 16, 2011, 07:58:46 PM »
The reason you can be skinny and have a big bench is mostly that benching doesn't provide the right kind of growth stimulus, btw. It's too specific and not powerful enough to generate general growth. It's useful as part of a compound lifting program but yeah, most everyone skips the squats and deadlifts these days so they remain skinny and understrong generally. I think a lot of people get better due to practice as much as due to actual strength gains.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3372 on: November 16, 2011, 09:55:14 PM »
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3373 on: November 16, 2011, 09:59:44 PM »
My flat bench press has always been terrible. For whatever reason my incline press is better than my bench.

Same here.  It got to the point where I mostly do dips and incline DB presses.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3374 on: November 16, 2011, 10:12:42 PM »
well, i do plenty of squats and deadlifts, so no probs there
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3375 on: November 16, 2011, 10:15:39 PM »
:lol @ "understrong"

At what point does someone become strong or even overstrong?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eesi0OqJwnI/Tg3oCp_njAI/AAAAAAAAAFI/-ZhnSbmLsJE/s1600/extreme_bodybuilder_02.jpg

I have no clue how people that big wipe themselves, like, geometrically.

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« Reply #3376 on: November 16, 2011, 10:34:39 PM »
:lol @ "understrong"

At what point does someone become strong or even overstrong?

ah, that's just a catchphrase of Mark Rippetoe's. He basically thinks almost everyone is 'understrong' of course. He has attempted to quantify it in the past (there is a pdf table of his 'ratings' for various weight classes/genders/experience levels in terms of squat/deadlift/press etc poundage) but it's such a weird thing to try to pin down, he has ended up rescinding it.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3377 on: November 16, 2011, 10:35:38 PM »
well, i do plenty of squats and deadlifts, so no probs there

ah, but your problem is not being too skinny
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3378 on: November 16, 2011, 10:41:27 PM »
true dat
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3379 on: November 17, 2011, 12:23:54 AM »
Glad to hear you have adequate girth.  How about your length?

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« Reply #3380 on: November 17, 2011, 12:41:21 AM »
I think I may have found a really good sports physio, hooray. I've been plagued by shoulder probs for about a year now (the reason I shifted to kettlebells, initially) and nobody has been able to tell me what the problem is prior to this guy. One 30 min session and some rehab exercises have worked wonders already. Going back for another session next week.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3381 on: November 17, 2011, 01:12:49 AM »
How did you screw your shoulder?

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« Reply #3382 on: November 17, 2011, 01:33:57 AM »
no idea. Probably an accumulation of stuff. I suspect kipping pull-ups are partly to blame - i don't do those anymore.

I can work around it for a lot of things but the killer is that i can't squat heavy - it gives me a searing pain from my shoulder to my elbow. Really hoping this'll fix it.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3383 on: November 17, 2011, 09:45:29 PM »
That really blows.  I know how that feels since I just messed up my shoulder two months ago.  Even now, I can't do a low bar squat without pain. 

Btw, Cormac, have you tried doing a KB or DB snatch with your posture locked in a half-squat position?  My friend says it puts more focus on the core.  I tried it today but it was much harder than a regular snatch.   

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3384 on: November 17, 2011, 10:23:22 PM »
i suppose it depends how you typically do a snatch. I do them straight-legged so the legs are locked already.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3385 on: November 17, 2011, 10:33:53 PM »
If you want a crazy core exercise with KBs, try these!



As Steve Cotter says, you'll never do crunches again!

You can do them with a barbell or DBs as well of course. Just be careful to tighten the core as much as you can and breathe right (listen to the way Steve breathes out sharply at intervals on the way down - this is crucial to avoid falling too fast and losing control, as I quickly discovered...)
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3386 on: November 17, 2011, 10:37:36 PM »
yep
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« Reply #3387 on: November 17, 2011, 10:39:57 PM »
Steve has the same body type as me actually (he is more ripped of course), not sure if it's natural or the result of similar training. Our bellies are flat but there is not a lot of tapering off from our shoulders/chests, which are not inflated like a lot of globo-gym types who bench a lot.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3388 on: November 18, 2011, 12:24:41 AM »
That looks like a crazy exercise.  I wonder if the heavier dumbells at the gym are large enough to lock my feet under them.  If not, I guess my workout partner could just hold my feet. 

Isn't the tapering look also due to a wide back?  People say that I have a V shape but I never bench more than once per week. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3389 on: November 18, 2011, 12:33:47 AM »
Since there's no NBA season, freerunning has become my favorite sport. 

How do people train for it? 






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« Reply #3390 on: November 18, 2011, 12:50:51 AM »
Lots of gymnastics in their background, i bet. But there are dedicated parkour schools now, right? If you can find one, go take a few classes and tell us - i'd be fascinated to know. I bet it would help your basketball game too - agility, explosiveness, body awareness...
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3391 on: November 18, 2011, 02:22:12 AM »
I haven't heard of any parkour schools in the LA area but I didn't even know they exist 'till you told me.  I'm definitely interested in joining one if it's closeby. 

Once I get proficient enough, I'm gonna do double backflips off the wall everytime I score a basket. 

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« Reply #3392 on: November 18, 2011, 02:36:00 AM »
I remember this video:



website says it's "California's first and only training facility solely dedicated to the growth and spread of running and parkour."  Seems like it's actually in LA.

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« Reply #3393 on: November 18, 2011, 09:21:24 AM »
Lots of gymnastics in their background, i bet. But there are dedicated parkour schools now, right? If you can find one, go take a few classes and tell us - i'd be fascinated to know. I bet it would help your basketball game too - agility, explosiveness, body awareness...
There some meetups around my way.  Nothing too formal, though.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3394 on: November 18, 2011, 11:02:50 AM »
My flat bench press has always been terrible. For whatever reason my incline press is better than my bench.

Same here.  It got to the point where I mostly do dips and incline DB presses.

I still do bench it's just frustrating and more uncomfortable for me than other exercises. I've had my form checked dozens of times by trainers and friends but I think the issue has more to do with my arm length and chest than anything else. If I come down and try to barely contact right at my nipple line or slightly below, even with a solid bridge and shoulders back my elbows are WAY below the bench itself. I have monkey ass arms. Wingspan of 6'5 and I'm only 5'11.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3395 on: November 18, 2011, 09:33:40 PM »
Deadlifts are your lift then, especially if your legs are short ;)

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3396 on: November 19, 2011, 01:06:20 AM »
Don't really have short legs but can pull ridiculous amounts of weight dling. I'm more limited by grip strength than the pulling motion.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3397 on: November 20, 2011, 08:21:46 PM »
I really fell hard off of the paleo/low carbohydrate wagon in the past couple of months.  I gained 15 pounds, feel like ass for almost all of the day, takes forever to get out of bed in the morning, etc.  I forgot how it felt to be a fat ass (back when I was near Willco fat).

Time to start all over again tomorrow.  I'm going to fast for a day and then hit the ground running.
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« Reply #3398 on: November 22, 2011, 11:21:05 AM »
I'm proud of myself today.  I went to the gym and RIPPED IT UP!!!!

Squatted 290lbs and deadlifted 210lbs.  The old man that's been talking with me about how I lift has really helped me lift more.  Who would have thought that changing your grip could improve so much?
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« Reply #3399 on: November 22, 2011, 09:45:17 PM »
I'm proud of myself today.  I went to the gym and RIPPED IT UP!!!!

Squatted 290lbs and deadlifted 210lbs.  The old man that's been talking with me about how I lift has really helped me lift more.  Who would have thought that changing your grip could improve so much?

good job! I take it he taught you the hook grip? For me, by far the strongest grip is hook grip with left hand palm facing forward, right hand palm facing back. I'm sure you can double that DL figure inside 6 months if you keep at it, and listen to what this old guy says (the one at your gym, not me!)
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3400 on: November 22, 2011, 10:16:33 PM »
i don't work out so i don't pop in here much

but i continue to lose weight doing the leptin reset / paleo / primal plan which essentially forbids you from working out. :\  i'm about 3 weeks into it (out of a projected 8) and things are still going fairly well

weight loss has slowed but 6 inches of my waistline in 4 months was pretty crazy and totally not sustainable.  currently wearing pants a full 8 inches smaller than when I moved to NYC in 08.

Shit is bananas. 

i'm still a social drinker which is my only vice at this point.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3401 on: November 22, 2011, 11:01:35 PM »
I'm proud of myself today.  I went to the gym and RIPPED IT UP!!!!

Squatted 290lbs and deadlifted 210lbs.  The old man that's been talking with me about how I lift has really helped me lift more.  Who would have thought that changing your grip could improve so much?

Proud of you, bro.   It's kinda weird how much more your squat is than your deadlift though.  Usually it's the other way around.  Even when someone can squat more than DL, it's usually not a 80lbs difference. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3402 on: November 22, 2011, 11:14:25 PM »
I have a feeling this is gonna be Andrew in one year.


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« Reply #3403 on: November 23, 2011, 12:30:34 AM »
Cormac - Yeah, it's the hook grip, but reversed cause I'm a lefty

Smooth - I'd say my deadlift will pick up once I become more accustomed to it.  As for the video, the thing I'm most impressed with that guy over is the box jump out of the water.  That shit was insane.
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« Reply #3404 on: November 23, 2011, 12:58:50 AM »
Andy - you got me thinking a bit with your post about learning the proper technique. Something Steve Cotter (the kettlebell dude) preaches a lot is that 'Strength is a skill'. This seems like a contradiction in terms but it yields quite a lot if you think about it. What I take from it is that you need to learn how to APPLY strength. Some muscles may be strong, others may not. Tendons may be strong, or they may be weak. The CNS may be fully recruited or it may not. The joints may be holding you back, or they may not. These sudden jumps in poundage come when you figure out something that was holding you back (or train it): in this case, how to apply the grip strength you already had. Without that technique, your strength was effectively useless to you in terms of training the deadlift, since you couldn't lift anything heavier than your grip strength would allow. Thus, it was basically useless for training your legs and back. Raw strength (which many big guys possess) is often useless unless you know how to apply it in a practical situation. So...strength is a skill. Unless you learn the technique, you'll never get stronger past a certain point.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3405 on: November 23, 2011, 01:03:58 AM »
What can I do to improve a shoulder joint?  Despite being stronger on the right side, my right shoulder joint usually gives up on the 5th set of a bench press.  I hurt it when playing tackle football in 8th grade.  I was dumb enough to tackle the biggest, fastest guy in our class who looked 4 years older. 

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« Reply #3406 on: November 23, 2011, 10:35:29 AM »
depends what's wrong with it, doesn't it? The sports physio guy I've been going to seems to have figured out my issue and is giving me rehab exercises that seem to be helping it but your case might obviously be totally different.
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« Reply #3407 on: November 24, 2011, 01:41:50 AM »
I'm pretty sure it's the acromioclavicular joint.  It just feels like a bruise after 80% of my bench routine.  Then it goes away after a couple of days.  For some reason, it doesn't bother me much while doing the military press which should be more stressful on the shoulders. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3408 on: November 25, 2011, 06:47:46 AM »
After yesterday, I'm just going to strike out anything progressive that I did over the last... week or two...
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« Reply #3409 on: November 25, 2011, 08:35:41 AM »
After yesterday, I'm just going to strike out anything progressive that I did over the last... week or two...
Seriously :lol

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« Reply #3410 on: November 26, 2011, 06:40:24 AM »
So I have two 10 lb. dumb bells that I've been curling with. It's reached the point where I can do around 50 without too much trouble. I know that you're supposed to get heavier weights after you've gotten accustomed to smaller ones, but at the moment I don't have that option. So I'm wondering, should I just increase the number of reps? Again, that probably sounds like a no-brainer, but I was wondering if it wouldn't be as helpful cause of diminishing returns and such?

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« Reply #3411 on: November 26, 2011, 07:27:29 AM »
Diminishing returns are still better than zero returns, which is all you get when you are doing the same reps/weight that you can already do.

But really, start doing other exercises if you can't get more weight. Pull-ups are the obvious upgrade to curls.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3412 on: November 26, 2011, 07:30:06 PM »


 :o I'm just 450 points away from being in legitimate 2nd place!
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3413 on: November 26, 2011, 07:35:37 PM »
Are you shirtless in that small thumbnail Andy? PM me the bigger pic.
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« Reply #3414 on: November 26, 2011, 07:44:25 PM »


Too lazy to PM
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« Reply #3415 on: November 26, 2011, 07:53:47 PM »
yeeeeeeeeeee my man
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« Reply #3416 on: November 28, 2011, 09:07:29 PM »
http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-ideal-weight-20111128,0,4530121.story

Avg weight and reported 'ideal weight' both up 20lbs from 10 years ago, jesus fucking christ.

Bear this in mind next time someone tells you online that they only need to lose '5-10lbs'. I always double that mentally now.
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« Reply #3417 on: November 28, 2011, 10:15:29 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #3418 on: November 29, 2011, 12:34:24 AM »
Is there a correlation between eye wrinkles (Crow's Feet) and low bodyfat %?  I'm leery of getting any leaner because one of my balling friends is cut like a NBA player but has deep wrinkles at just 25 years old.   He said he's always been super lean and his track running in College probably got it even lower. 

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« Reply #3419 on: November 29, 2011, 08:33:54 PM »
I'm serious.  I started thinking that after watching The Immortals.  Even with the blurry 3D and Hollywood makeup, Cavill also had very visible eye wrinkles which made him look older than 28.