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Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3420 on: November 29, 2011, 10:01:58 PM »
maybe he likes to go outdoors or something. Who cares? No-one is ever going to be watching SmoothGroove on an IMAX screen.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3421 on: November 29, 2011, 10:05:11 PM »
I'm proud of the fact that people always think I'm at least 5 yrs younger than I really am.  Eye wrinkles are one of my biggest worries.  Everytime I see a hint of them when I smile too much, it scares the shit outta me. 

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3422 on: November 29, 2011, 10:18:37 PM »
So you smile less to look younger? hmmm
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Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3423 on: November 29, 2011, 10:22:18 PM »
So you smile less to look younger? hmmm

Yes, I've been considering that.  In fact a friend and I tried it last time but we both couldn't stop laughing when we thought of how stupid it was. 

Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3424 on: November 29, 2011, 10:22:41 PM »
I'm proud of the fact that people always think I'm at least 5 yrs younger than I really am.  Eye wrinkles are one of my biggest worries.  Everytime I see a hint of them when I smile too much, it scares the shit outta me.

I have eye wrinkles, they annoy me at times but not enough for me to cry about them.

How old are you?

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3425 on: November 29, 2011, 10:52:02 PM »
No eye wrinkles at 30.  A small benefit of being having a darker complexion.

Groogrux

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3426 on: November 30, 2011, 07:36:28 AM »
Do any of you guys think it could be chalked up to the fact that genetics are just a bitch?  I'm 26 and I've already got a head peppered with gray hairs, and you don't see me running to the stores to get a box of Just For Men.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3427 on: November 30, 2011, 01:11:36 PM »
does ANYONE care about eye wrinkles? jesus christ, smooth, you sound like a woman! time to foul some more fools on the court and get that testosterone JACK'D
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Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3428 on: November 30, 2011, 10:01:25 PM »
My bad, mang, for dirtying this thread with the effete BS.  Back to breaking PRs and beasting on the court!  Huuuah!

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3429 on: December 06, 2011, 05:27:16 AM »
This physio is awesome stuff. I'm basically pain-free again after a few weeks, and back exercising normally. Next project is fixing the fundamental problems with my posture that led to the impingement in the first place. Tedious but the payoff will be worth it, hopefully.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3430 on: December 09, 2011, 12:53:05 PM »
This physio is awesome stuff. I'm basically pain-free again after a few weeks, and back exercising normally. Next project is fixing the fundamental problems with my posture that led to the impingement in the first place. Tedious but the payoff will be worth it, hopefully.

People underestimate fysio so much. There's nothing greater than a man handling your back while you're lying there face down in extreme pain only so you afterwards feel like you're flying.

Also great for muscles that are stretched out too much.

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3431 on: December 11, 2011, 06:57:42 AM »
I just read Shaq's autobiography - ok, Martin Amis he is not but every single team he's ever been on is fascinating - and it turns out most of his injuries, including the one that ended his career, stemmed from one arthritic toe. The impact of that rippled up throughout his body, causing all kinds of problems. The reason for his sudden resurgence in Phoenix was pretty much that the Suns' trainers figured this out and were able to fix most of it. The big issue was that his glutes weren't firing properly, which is something all of us cubicle slaves and gamers need to consider. When muscles that big stop working, a lot of other smaller muscles end up picking up the slack, and of course they aren't big enough. So you always got to be prehabbin' that stuff. Lots of good stuff in Ferriss' 4 Hr Body on how to do that, some of which i've been experimenting with recently. Mostly though, kettlebells get the job done - turkish get-ups and swings are a very common prescription for fixing all these imbalance-related injuries.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3432 on: December 13, 2011, 10:11:33 PM »
Almost broke my knee cap and both my wrists yesterday.  I was 3ft in the air for a rebound and this clusmy 6' 3 250+ lbs idiot (obviously white) ran into me, trying to rip the ball from my hands but just ended sending me straight into the ground.  I landed right on my right knee cap which probably would have been fractured if I hadn't broke the fall with my hands and rolled into a somersault. 

Everyone at the gym was shocked.  The assailant apologized profusely but I would have kicked his ass if not for the size difference and my whole body in pain straight to the bone. 

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3433 on: December 13, 2011, 10:20:56 PM »
ooh, what a bitch move.

I want to see video of this, just for the somersault part :lol
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« Reply #3434 on: December 13, 2011, 10:36:10 PM »
It was pretty crazy.  People watching thought that the impact was gonna kill me. 

I had a friend who had a similar incident and he didn't even jump that high.  He unfortunately landed right on his elbow, which had a major fracture and cut off some of his nerves.  For almost 2 years, his left arm and shoulder were almost useless and his doc told him to get used to basically being one-armed.  Luckily, a better doctor took a chance and performed a successful operation which gave him normal function after several months of rehabilitation.  It was pretty sick seeing his left arm losing 50% or more of its size due to muscle atrophy. 

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3435 on: December 13, 2011, 10:48:20 PM »
It sounds like it could have been a TJ Ford-like injury, dude. Really glad you came through it ok!

My physio basically slammed the door shut on kettlebell work until I get this shoulder stronger. The more he works on it, the better an understanding of it we get. It's not actually an injury; just a muscular imbalance caused by the poor posture resulting from years of desk work (and sedentary leisure in general - reading mostly in my case). So until that muscular imbalance is corrected, any major exercise is going to just pull it further out of alignment. Only the specific rehab exercises he has mandated to strengthen the weak muscle (without further strengthening the over-strong shoulder muscle...) are going to help.

So I guess I have a lot of rehab, plus maybe lower body/core work (squats, running, sit-ups and such) in my future. It's pretty disappointing since I can actually workout fine without pain now, and the left side is no longer markedly weaker than the right. On the other hand, this will hopefully correct a lifetime of poor habits and set me up better for my declining years than a few weeks more training would do.
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« Reply #3436 on: December 13, 2011, 10:52:56 PM »
Thanks.  I should probably get some physio for my right shoulder.  It's pretty clear that the right shoulder joint is my bottleneck in many lifts even though my right arm is quite a bit stronger than the left. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3437 on: December 18, 2011, 05:08:42 PM »
Hey fitness-bores,

So, ever since Feb I've been on the (low) low-carb diet and off again, and so far I've lost around 30 pounds. I'm 10 pounds away of my target, and I've been more than ok with the ground rules and intend to continue on, but a few days ago I met a dear friend of mine from my medicine years (he completed his residency, and started a fellowship a few months ago). The Atkins diet came up, and we discussed it for a while. He pointed out some of the downsides, some were obvious, while others not so much to me. I asked him to email me a summary for myself, and to hear others' opinions on the matter.

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A lot if not most of the body metabolism is regulated by the balance of insulin, which is anabolic and the counterregulatory hormones (epinephrine, cortisol and glucagon) which are catabolic.  In the Atkins diet, there is a shift towards the catabolic side, as the lack of effective insulin levels will trigger a change in some of the metabolic pathways.  Glycogen stores will be used initially, then the body will utilize fat as the major energy source as well as ketone generation in the liver which is toxic to the body.
 
There have been studies done that show an increase in HDL cholesterol (the good cholesterol) and a decrease in the bad cholesterol LDL and improve insulin resistance ( helping in diabetes type 2), which also occur in a normal balanced diet.  Other studies show that other substances in the body are altered in levels.  However there are no studies that show any clinically significant results whether good or bad.
 
The major side effects to this diet is:
- the body is in a state of slight acidosis which can be tolerated with a good hydration, however the baseline bicarbonate level is reduced thus imparining its ability to correct other acidosis condition occurs in certain illnesses.
- The glycogen stores are depleted thus the body is less able to withstand fasting hypoglycemia.  Also, because there are high levels of epinephrine in this diet, the symptoms preceeding hypoglycemia that usually occur before it ( as a result of increase in epinephrine) as a warning may be less obvious.
- constipation which can be treated with fiber diet.
- kidney stones and hypercalcemia.
 
 
While this is a fast way to burn fat, it exhausts the body.  So, it should not be used as a long term diet.  If someone wanted to use it to lose excess weight and was obese or morbid obese I'd see that the benefit outways the risk and once he is within range of desired weight he should be back on a balanced diet.  Also, it should be monitored and in follow up with a doctor.
 
Call me if you want to ask about anything.

So, how serious are these downsides and how can it be mitigated? One of his suggestions was 20-30 grams of daily carb intake and maintaining body hydration to counter some of these effects.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3438 on: December 18, 2011, 08:36:29 PM »
20-30 grams of carbs a day is nothing...you'd get that even from eating nothing but bacon. And duh, drink water. Are you actually suffering any ill-effects though?
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3439 on: December 18, 2011, 08:47:07 PM »
but apart from that, congrats on sticking to the diet and losing 30lbs. Eagerly await the nude pics.

The Atkins diet is a bad way to go. I did it for a year and lost a bunch of weight but ended up feeling ill because I was paying no attention to food quality, only trying to avoid carbs like the plague. I eat a bunch of carbs (sweet potatoes, tomatoes, some potatoes, some rice) now and feel great. Now I focus on avoiding gluten, sugar and hydrogenated oils more than any concerns about macro nutrients.  Also, long-term ketosis is not a good idea. You can do it and it will take the weight off but most people do better with SOME carbs, especially if you exercise a lot.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3440 on: December 20, 2011, 02:55:47 PM »
make sure you hydrate.

i was on ketosis and drinking nothing but diet coke. bad idea. i went lifting for the first time in two months and felt ill- did'nt know what it was. just felt tired all day. the next morning i still felt fatigued. had sex with my girlfriend before i went to class and i felt like passing out walking to class. that night i got struck with fever/flu like symptoms. this lasted for about 4-5 days. i had never gotten that sick before. finally got better a week later.

make sure you drink water. so important.

Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3441 on: December 20, 2011, 08:09:12 PM »
Set a new PR on the dumbell snatch from the hang position with 105lbs on both sides.  I probably could have done more.  I didn't want to go too crazy since that was after I had already played an hr of basketball. 

Now I'm interested in snatching with the barbell but the form seems so much difficult.  Also, my gym probably won't pleased about dropping the weight straight to the ground, like Olympians do. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3442 on: December 20, 2011, 08:28:57 PM »
Hey fitness-bores,

So, ever since Feb I've been on the (low) low-carb diet and off again, and so far I've lost around 30 pounds. I'm 10 pounds away of my target, and I've been more than ok with the ground rules and intend to continue on, but a few days ago I met a dear friend of mine from my medicine years (he completed his residency, and started a fellowship a few months ago). The Atkins diet came up, and we discussed it for a while. He pointed out some of the downsides, some were obvious, while others not so much to me. I asked him to email me a summary for myself, and to hear others' opinions on the matter.



Didn't you use to have six-pack abs?  I remember seeing a pic of it a few years ago. 

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3443 on: December 28, 2011, 03:11:37 PM »
Just got an email from MDA and Mark put out a new e-book!  Primal Smoothies!  Here's the link for any that are interested in picking up this book or any of the others: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/download-primal-blueprint-ebooks/ and the password you need is PBFPBINTROPDFS
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3444 on: December 30, 2011, 12:26:25 AM »
Fitnessbore may call me crazy, but I just signed up to do this ten months from now.

Going to start training tomorrow.

http://toughmudder.com/
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Groogrux

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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3445 on: December 30, 2011, 09:23:10 AM »
When you do start training, are you going to be training by their program or something else?
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Re: FitnessBore - 2011 edition
« Reply #3446 on: January 02, 2012, 12:13:58 AM »
I'm doing one in Austin in November. Going to start training a year ago. ;)

make america proud  :american
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3447 on: January 03, 2012, 06:35:13 AM »
I'd been doing the leptin reset for the past two months so I wasn't working out as advocated by Dr Jack Kruse.

I came back to it this morning having read Convict Conditioning and deciding I was going to go with that for now.
The book advocates for starting from the beginning with the beginner exercises and reps rather than just jumping ahead to where you think you belong.

So I started with wall pushups and flat knee raises and jumped into the intermediate reps for both exercises using slow easy movements.  Two seconds down, one second hold, two seconds up.

As all of my previous exercising had been "just do some push ups and some squats, yo" I was basically just blasting through as quickly as possible.  Convict Conditioning says don't do that because you use momentum more than you use your strength.  I was surprised but not surprised to find that the exercises when done in this manner were more difficult than expected.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3448 on: January 04, 2012, 11:55:29 PM »
I'm so confused. For the past couple of months, my weight had been stuck at 157-158 lbs. Before this Monday I had not done any type of workout for the past 2 weeks and I also ate whatever I wanted and as much as I wanted during those two weeks. I just checked my weight a few mins ago and I've dropped to 154 lbs. I don't understand.

Edit: I don't really mind losing weight, but I haven't been trying to at all. I'd rather not drop under 150.
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Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3449 on: January 05, 2012, 12:26:35 AM »
Your mutant powers finally manifested, congrats!
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Beezy

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3450 on: January 05, 2012, 12:37:18 AM »
these are some lame ass powers

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3451 on: January 05, 2012, 01:05:55 AM »
Seriously, what does 3lbs tell you? You can gain or lose that much in a day from water weight. Maybe you lost some muscle from not working out, gained some fat from eating too much...but the amounts are so small that who cares? Do you feel any different? It's hard to imagine you would - I gave up looking at the scale a long time ago but I used to see those kind of changes all the time without looking or feeling significantly different.

And if you want to gain muscle, you know what you have to do: lift heavy, eat a lot.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3452 on: January 05, 2012, 01:19:24 AM »
I'll try to stay away from the scale then.

Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3453 on: January 05, 2012, 01:37:29 AM »
My feeling with weighing yourself is: either you go all out and collect all the data - i.e. weigh yourself every day at multiple times -  or you just don't worry about it and use the mirror and your own sense of how you look, feel and perform.

If you are super-anxious about your weight, going through a period of measuring constantly will probably help reassure you that those little bumps aren't very meaningful, then you can ease back on it unless you are actually trying to either gain muscle or lose fat.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3454 on: January 05, 2012, 11:54:34 AM »
jesus christ. I think I'm in Ketosis and I feel like shit.  I've never done this low a carb count for this long.  Every time I eat, my stomach flips.  It makes riding the trains a bit of a nightmare.  Thankfully this passes, but goddamn...
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3455 on: January 08, 2012, 07:51:26 PM »
yeah, ketosis is awful. i up the carbs on the workout days, but i'm not sure what a good rhythm is.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3456 on: January 08, 2012, 07:57:24 PM »
It actually passed the next day.  I had a crazy day and was nearly absolutely manic. My moods have stabilized a quite and the near constant nausea is gone.  I've also upped my carb and leafy green vegetable intake. 

Thankfully I'm just doing this while I get back into working out so it's not a long term thing.
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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3457 on: January 09, 2012, 04:02:11 PM »
Fitocracy is, like, the best fucking thing ever. EVER.
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Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3458 on: January 09, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »
I've been stuffing myself with carbs for the last couple of weeks.  Mostly stuff like white rice, fruits and juice but sometimes even bad carbs like pasta, pizza and ramen.  I haven't noticed the BF% going higher but I'm finally able to at least maintain weight while lifting more.  For awhile, I was getting leaner the more I lift but not getting much stronger.  6-pack abs are useless if you don't have beastly power to go with it.

Also, I've been switching my rountine a little bit.  Instead of focusing on regular two-legged squats, I've started doing more single leg squats.  Instead of cleans or dumbell snatches, I'm doing barbell snatches.  The barbell snatch is a killer lift that's fun to do but the form is really hard to get right.  Initially I was falling backwards even with just 25lb plates but now I'm better able to keep my balance by stomping harder on the hop. 

Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3459 on: January 09, 2012, 10:12:29 PM »
Thinking about getting compression shorts like these to help with faster recovery time.  Has anyone tried it?  Supposedly muscle compression is one of the best ways to decrease DOMS.


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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3460 on: January 09, 2012, 10:22:15 PM »
what's Fitocracy?

BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3461 on: January 09, 2012, 10:28:34 PM »
what's Fitocracy?

It's a fitness stat tracker site.

But it has experience points, quests and achievements.


:drool :drool :drool :drool
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3462 on: January 09, 2012, 10:34:27 PM »
I entered my email and got 'We will let you know as soon as Fitocracy is open to the public' :(

is there an ED group like thing?  this could be fun

BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3463 on: January 09, 2012, 10:43:20 PM »
I entered my email and got 'We will let you know as soon as Fitocracy is open to the public' :(

is there an ED group like thing?  this could be fun

PM me your email. I have a few invites.
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Cormacaroni

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3464 on: January 09, 2012, 11:09:10 PM »
Compression gear does help a bit with recovery, yeah. Not a patch on good food, a hot bath, sleep etc but why not. I find they get unwearably stinky pretty fast though, if you actually work out in them.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3465 on: January 09, 2012, 11:26:05 PM »
signed up under 'InfelicitousD'

does it give sugestions on what kinds of workouts I should be doing or am I on my own there?

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3466 on: January 09, 2012, 11:30:16 PM »
I entered my email and got 'We will let you know as soon as Fitocracy is open to the public' :(

is there an ED group like thing?  this could be fun

ED = erectile dysfunction ?

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3467 on: January 09, 2012, 11:32:05 PM »
yes :(

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3468 on: January 09, 2012, 11:35:58 PM »
working out might help with that...get the blood flowing, or something.

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3469 on: January 09, 2012, 11:40:39 PM »
so is there an EB group as well?

Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3470 on: January 10, 2012, 12:07:35 AM »
Compression gear does help a bit with recovery, yeah. Not a patch on good food, a hot bath, sleep etc but why not. I find they get unwearably stinky pretty fast though, if you actually work out in them.

I was thinking about just sleeping in them. 

BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3471 on: January 10, 2012, 12:10:40 AM »
Does seem like there`s a bore group, but it`s kinda dead.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3472 on: January 10, 2012, 06:54:22 AM »
bought a tape measure so i could accurately measure my body.

it ain't pretty.

I'm setting a fitness goal of trying to do one pull up this year.  It would be a huge deal to me if I could do it.
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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3473 on: January 10, 2012, 10:01:24 PM »
so I was thinking I did shitty on my workout today, makes me feel like it's pointless then bam 96 points, almost at level 1.  SHIT YA

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3474 on: January 10, 2012, 11:43:32 PM »
InfelicitousD

BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3475 on: January 10, 2012, 11:47:26 PM »
Giving props is so much better than liking.
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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3476 on: January 10, 2012, 11:53:27 PM »
I can do ANYTHING with this in the background.

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Groogrux

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3477 on: January 11, 2012, 07:31:47 AM »
Does seem like there`s a bore group, but it`s kinda dead.

Groups on Fitocracy aren't like groups on other sites.  There isn't much room for interaction outside of challenges, and I didn't think there would be any point in doing one challenge right after another.  Maybe as the site ages and figures out more about itself, they will open up new ways to interact with one another.

In the meantime, if you guys do want to do a challenge on there, just let me know.

[edit] Also, I made TB an admin on there, as I sometimes take breaks from the site for sickness and whatnot.  I don't know that it amounts to much more than a hill of beans, but there you go.
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Groogrux

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3478 on: January 11, 2012, 08:45:43 AM »
Now that I'm admin there are going to be BIG CHANGES

:lol
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Smooth Groove

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Re: FitnessBore - 2012 edition
« Reply #3479 on: January 11, 2012, 11:29:19 AM »
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/6_weeks_to_superhero_how_i_build_muscle_and_strip_off_fat_fast

Try this program.  I've done it before and it's really tough.

He recommends 4 days a week but it's almost impossible to recover fast enough in one day to do two days in a row again.  Try doing two complexes everytime you go and completing 6 circuits.  It should be more than ennough to help you continue gaining.