FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[TakingBackSunday]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

[Am_I_Anonymous]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

I'm 6 and 188 and i am not at all chubby. Muscle mass breh.

And no way at 6'0 158 can you be chubby unless you have like a 30' inseam.

[Kara]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

IIRC those charts adjust for frame. You have a lean frame, I have a fucking Space Marine barrel chest.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

IIRC those charts adjust for frame. You have a lean frame, I have a fucking Space Marine barrel chest.

I don't care what your frame is....158 at 6'0 is almost impossible to be chubby.  Unless you're all torso and even then I'd be skeptical. Post Nudes (for Demi to inspect)

[TakingBackSunday]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

I'm 6 and 188 and i am not at all chubby. Muscle mass breh.

And no way at 6'0 158 can you be chubby unless you have like a 30' inseam.

I've never gotten my inseam properly measured, but 30 feels semi loose on me.  I'm rocking a 32x30 right now and it felt good when I bought them but now they're a little loose.

[TakingBackSunday]

I do seem to be mostly torso

[Am_I_Anonymous]

170 for 6'2 is skinny?

I'm 6'0 and 158 and I feel tubby as shit

I'm 6 and 188 and i am not at all chubby. Muscle mass breh.

And no way at 6'0 158 can you be chubby unless you have like a 30' inseam.

I've never gotten my inseam properly measured, but 30 feels semi loose on me.  I'm rocking a 32x30 right now and it felt good when I bought them but now they're a little loose.

So you're mostly build from hips up then? Yeah I guess it's possible to have a gut, but it can't be a big one or anything.

[TakingBackSunday]

I have a small one.  Working on it doe

been playing basketball and running pretty much every day.  take two days off a week particular if my legs just can't take it anymore

gotta start doing leg strengthening exercises.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I have a small one.  Working on it doe

been playing basketball and running pretty much every day.  take two days off a week particular if my legs just can't take it anymore

gotta start doing leg strengthening exercises.

Try eating a banana then doing a mile in the morning or when you get home from work.

[TakingBackSunday]

I do exactly that after work, have been doing that the last three weeks.  One mile + 30 ish minutes of basketball drills.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I do exactly that after work, have been doing that the last three weeks.  One mile + 30 ish minutes of basketball drills.

Hit that potassium bro, it'll help in more ways than one.

[Mupepe]

Potassium supplements used to give me boners. Whatevs

[Madrun Badrun]

You should stop buying the supplements with the flexing beefcakes on the bottle then. 

[Kara]

Potassium supplements used to give me boners. Whatevs

I have a chronic potassium deficiency problem because of nutrient gruel + empty calories to not fall into starvation tier and the supplements I found really don't have that much K in them. Do you have any recs?

[Mr. Gundam]

There is no shame in doing 10 minute miles. Your time will improve as your run more.

[Kara]

After not being able to work out much over the last month and a half, I finally got back in the gym this week and realized I've lost pounds on all my lifts and gained pounds elsewhere.

Part of it was probably drinking more or less every night. I've decided to go sober for awhile (with the option for 2-3 drinks on Saturday nights provided I'm not doing it alone). Hopefully that will help the extra pounds drop off.

Shit's so many empty calories, I'm glad I use it as a meal substitute instead of in addition to a meal. I had 3 beers last night and it was ~900 calories.

Unrelated: I'm sure she won't read it, but I couldn't help throwing shade on my ex on social media RE: weight loss today after noticing my progress. (She complained about the #struggle of it whereas I'm on my way to a Sally Struthers infomercial while still partying.)

[TakingBackSunday]

Do the LA Marathon!  My company made the app for it

edit: jesus christ what kind of beer are you drinking thats 300+ calories

[toku]

After not being able to work out much over the last month and a half, I finally got back in the gym this week and realized I've lost pounds on all my lifts and gained pounds elsewhere.

Part of it was probably drinking more or less every night. I've decided to go sober for awhile (with the option for 2-3 drinks on Saturday nights provided I'm not doing it alone). Hopefully that will help the extra pounds drop off.

Shit's so many empty calories, I'm glad I use it as a meal substitute instead of in addition to a meal. I had 3 beers last night and it was ~900 calories.

Unrelated: I'm sure she won't read it, but I couldn't help throwing shade on my ex on social media RE: weight loss today after noticing my progress. (She complained about the #struggle of it whereas I'm on my way to a Sally Struthers infomercial while still partying.)

Replacing booze with food is how I know you're a mad man.

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[Mupepe]

Potassium supplements used to give me boners. Whatevs

I have a chronic potassium deficiency problem because of nutrient gruel + empty calories to not fall into starvation tier and the supplements I found really don't have that much K in them. Do you have any recs?

Skip single supplements. I found them mostly a waste of time outside of a few like fish oil. Get a good multi like orange triad or opti men. Absorption of a vitamin depends heavily on the correct balance of vitamins. Thats why single vitamin supplements usually dont do shit.

[Mupepe]

But as always the best answer is to eat more real food dude. Supplements will only get you so far.

[Kara]

Thanks sup info, Mup.

There's actually a nutrient gruel that's high in K that I try and consume but

(1) it's fucking FOUL tasting and I have to mix it with another tastier gruel to stand drinking it (i.e. I can't drink it on the run, so it's pretty much only a dinner food as breakfast is the meal I get my iron at)
(2) it's fucking expensive (by my standards) and the Pic 'N' Save only has it available irregularly (I think resellers buy up the inventory)

I think the deficiency is bad enough that getting spinach on a Subway sammich or something 2-3 times a week won't even help.

@BN: I haven't jogged in 2.5 months (thanks tax season) and started smoking again during that time period on top of that... pretty sure the marathon would just be more L taking in a year where I actually became the letter L on an episode of Sesame Street due to taking so many Ls.

I was drinking Torpedo Extra IPA (not my choice), BTW and it looks like I picked the wrong ounce container on MyFitnessPal. Corrected for 12 ounce bottles, 3 of those was ~650 calories. Still a lot, that's over 30% of my calorie max for the day, but not so anymore.

@toku It's because I'm a sad man, not a mad one. And also I don't want to develop a benzo dependency to go to sleep so I have to find something else to get me to beddy-bye a few nights a week. absinthe

[Kara]

BREHS.

I felt like I was losing sight of the prize. Doing stupid things like eating 2 real meals a day, et cetera.

So I bought myself a nice coat in an ambitious size to keep me focused (via talisman).

Well it arrived today and it mostly fits me already. (Need to lose a bit more waist still, but I can wear it like a slob and it ain't no thang.)

Not sure what I'm going to do about the sleeves doe, if I don't bulk up my arms they need to be hella tailored.

Anyway, go me.

[Mupepe]

Do some pullups to get them arms big. Some bench press for the tris too.

[Himu]

Been looking into a martial art for a few months. I'm finally in the position and have the stability to stick with one. I've decided to go out my comfort zone. I've only ever done Kung fu in my life. But the Kung fu places I want to attend are 40 minutes to an hour away. So I decided, you know, I really like the mma I'm seeing on The Ultimate Fighter, why not that? Problem is that I don't like the look of BJJ. I find it lacks the grace I like from martial arts, and I'm not doing this for self defense. So I looked into mma gyms because I figured that would let me learn how to grapple (useful) while also concentrating on my favorite part of mma: strikes. Bzzzt! I'm seeing McDojo after McDojo after looking into that. So ive decided "fuck it, I'm just going to learn how to box and then do judo later."

http://www.slavaboxing.com/classes.shtm

There's a boxing class on teaching the basics of sweet science in a few days. It's a six week course and costs 170 bucks. I think I'm going to do it.

[Mupepe]

Boxing is a lot of fun. And awesome useful too considering most people only think of striking as fighting and on top or that they're horrible at it.

I do think you're putting a lot of emphasis on "grace" of martial arts considering that doesn't mean anything in how much fun it is. Do you plan on having people watch or posting YouTube vids? Go for what you find interesting and what is fun. But to each their own. Real boxing doesn't have any grace either though especially at the amateur level.

[Himu]

I guess what I mean is. I respect bjj highly, but I also come from the camp that martial arts should be like dancing too. I don't know. I'm willing to try it, and i love watching it. But I'm not sure if it's for me because I LIKE the choreography of traditional martial arts. And bjj isn't about choreography. It's about mano y mano pure adrenaline, like an actual fight. i like bjj, but it's not something I'd describe as beautiful. But Kung fu is, karate kata is even though that's also not something I'd want to do. I just enjoy the dance of martial arts I guess, and when i watch bjj training vids I'm not seeing the dance, but an actual fight. Even though I picked boxing, I find the Form of boxing to be beautiful, and I don't really have any intention to use it in a real fight.  Does that make sense?

The gracefulness and beauty of human physicality has always attracted me to the MAs.

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Whew. I'd like to do that but looking into karate, karate takes the dance too far. While grace is important to me, I'd still like to actually spar sometimes. In karate I've only seen kata and these things where the master says GO and they lightly tap each other for points. I don't know how karate got to be so big. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong videos but I have yet to see an actual karate sparring match where they're not stopped every five seconds.

But when you watch this, you can still see a dance between two people. But it's a different kind and it is actually something more of a live contest between two individuals.



See what I mean? I'd love to see vids of bjj where it's beautiful. I realize it sometimes can be, and it's a big reason I'm a big fan is womens mma, because they're smaller and can do crazier things like wrap themselves around their opponents body as if they're a snake, but those moments of bjj come few and far between.

Maybe I'm wrong on all this. I don't know.

[Himu]

I'm not saying beauty is everything, but I guess I'm being vapid in that Im trying to find something that I think looks aesthetically pleasing?

[Mupepe]

I'd disagree himu but to each their own. Karate can be badass and is the real deal. Too bad most places are black belt factories. Its a lot harder to find something good. And watching two bjj-only fighters who know their shit is,very exciting and nothing like the stuff in ufc

[TakingBackSunday]

goddamn fucking shin splints 

I've had to start icing my knees and shins pretty much after every basketball session and running night.  These suck dick

[Madrun Badrun]

I can do 5 pull ups now.  Ya I'm shit hot.  Also a friend noticed that I've put on muscle.  Super shit hot. 

[TakingBackSunday]

late to this -- did you put in a pull up bar in your house?  I've been considering that lately but I don't know where to put it, and I worry I'ma fuck up my wall if I get one of the wall ones instead of the doorway ones

[Mupepe]

Door way ones are fine if you dont get a cheap one. But you can make your own that are much better for 10-15 bucks that anchor in your wall studs. Plenty of instructions around the web

Congrats arvie!

[Madrun Badrun]

late to this -- did you put in a pull up bar in your house?  I've been considering that lately but I don't know where to put it, and I worry I'ma fuck up my wall if I get one of the wall ones instead of the doorway ones

No I got a dip station because the last time I got a door one the screws kind of fucked up the door frame, which I don't want to do in an apartment.  Also dips are nice.

[Mupepe]

Dips are nice. Shows us the tris!!

[Himu]

Finally found a boxing place that looks good.

https://m.

I'm going to be so gassed.

[Boogie]

I guess what I mean is. I respect bjj highly, but I also come from the camp that martial arts should be like dancing too. I don't know. I'm willing to try it, and i love watching it. But I'm not sure if it's for me because I LIKE the choreography of traditional martial arts. And bjj isn't about choreography. It's about mano y mano pure adrenaline, like an actual fight. i like bjj, but it's not something I'd describe as beautiful. But Kung fu is, karate kata is even though that's also not something I'd want to do. I just enjoy the dance of martial arts I guess, and when i watch bjj training vids I'm not seeing the dance, but an actual fight. Even though I picked boxing, I find the Form of boxing to be beautiful, and I don't really have any intention to use it in a real fight.  Does that make sense?

BJJ isn't as intuitive to watch as striking arts, but I would disagree about the lack of "beauty" in the technique.  When you are rolling, or watching a match, and there's flow from transition to transition as each competitor counters one another, it's more what I would call a "dance" than anything I've experienced in my time in striking arts.

[Boogie]

Dips are nice. Shows us the tris!!

Ya.  Pics or gtfo!!!

[Himu]

I guess what I mean is. I respect bjj highly, but I also come from the camp that martial arts should be like dancing too. I don't know. I'm willing to try it, and i love watching it. But I'm not sure if it's for me because I LIKE the choreography of traditional martial arts. And bjj isn't about choreography. It's about mano y mano pure adrenaline, like an actual fight. i like bjj, but it's not something I'd describe as beautiful. But Kung fu is, karate kata is even though that's also not something I'd want to do. I just enjoy the dance of martial arts I guess, and when i watch bjj training vids I'm not seeing the dance, but an actual fight. Even though I picked boxing, I find the Form of boxing to be beautiful, and I don't really have any intention to use it in a real fight.  Does that make sense?

BJJ isn't as intuitive to watch as striking arts, but I would disagree about the lack of "beauty" in the technique.  When you are rolling, or watching a match, and there's flow from transition to transition as each competitor counters one another, it's more what I would call a "dance" than anything I've experienced in my time in striking arts.

I can agree with that, and I trust your judgement. I'll give it a shot some time. I still really like watching bjj but it doesn't look like something I'd enjoy doing, but it's good to keep an open mind. If the muay thing checks out and I'm decent at it down the line I'll check out judo or bjj.

[Boogie]

There's nothing wrong with grappling just not being your thing.

It's not for everyone, and women especially seem to be less comfortable/interested in BJJ, compared with striking arts.  For obvious reasons.  The entire art exists with someone (usually a guy, because of the demographics of the sport) in your personal space, in physical contact with you at all times.  Many women aren't comfortable with that.

[TakingBackSunday]

Down to 155, my goal weight!!!!

Now to bulk up dat muscle 

[Himu]

I've got a dowager's hump. Likely from work and the fact my desk set up at home isn't optimal not comfortable. Ughhhh.

Here's some exercises that normalizes the neck if you've got one, and prevents it too. I know there's lots of people here who have desk day jobs. This is also the fitness thread where multiple practice martial arts or do exercises that may result in a hump.

https://m.

[Kara]

Note to self, chronic smoking wrecks your cardio capabilities.

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[Boogie]

WISE FROM YO GRAVE!!!

In honour of this Super Gay day, I'mma post some progress pics.

I haven't been training with a specific goal in mind over the past six months, except for a general desire to get leaner, and just go like a madman, and eat cleaner.

My workout routine hasn't changed too much in that time.  Still generally:

1 day lifting heavy.  Everything:  Deadlifts, bench, pull ups, shoulder press, squats.
1 day hockey.
1-2 days Jiu-jitsu
1-2 days circuits/quasi-crossfitty stuff.
1 day - 3 mile run.

To start the year off, I was stubbornly in the 192-198 lbs range.

Then all of a sudden, in May my weight dropped to 188 lbs  (the week of a jiu-jitsu competition), and since then my daily average weight has dropped to 185lbs for the past two months.  I think it was just little tweaks to my diet, being *just* that much more disciplined, and cheating less on the weekends.  Today I even hit 180.6 lbs on the scale, a number I'm sure I haven't seen on the scale since late 2008. 

Anyhow, the goods:

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Eat your fucking heart out, Biz, wherever you are!   

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Even at 181lbs, can't get those damn front abs to show up, WTF?!   

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[Kara]

[Mupepe]

Jesus!!! Jesus!!!!!

Amazing, boogie.

I injured my knee pretty bad last year and so squats and deads have been out of the picture. I've still been lifting what I can but leg day was non existent with rehab and set backs so I stopped really giving a fuck about my diet. I gained a good amount of fat back but I've made strength gains! I'm finally going to be squatting again next week so ILL BE BACK BITCHES

[Huff]

Looking hawt boogie

I've finally gotten back into lifting. Have been hesitant since multiple shoulder dislocations and surgery a couple years ago. Hopefully I'll be able to post some before/afters in a couple months of sticking with it.

I forgot how much I enjoyed it.

[chronovore]

[Samson Manhug]

Boogie, great progress. Since you're only doing sometimes two days a week of lifting don't be surprised if you don't have a bodybuilder physique. Your week is still very intense fitness wise and I'm sure you're reaping the rewards of the martial arts, sports, and running in other ways.

They key to training is specificity and since you're doing a lot of different things one day a week you're going to progress in those areas as much as 1/7th as fast as someone who just lifts (or just trains jiu jitsu, etc.)

But don't let that discourage you. Keep doing what's fun for you. You're in the top 1% of fitness in North America for sure. Really impressive. If you are really concerned about that last 5% of body fat my advice would be to tweak your diet even more—especially the amount and timing of your carbs. Congrats on the beach body!

[El Babua]

Awesome stuff Boogie. You'll be back Mups.

Also, might as well update:

Pain and damage in my lower back/hip area improved significantly over the past year.

Got my squat up to the mid 200's and my deadlift PR to 315. Last cycle was 310x3. Between 175- 180 bw

Thing is I hurt it again last week squatting. Just felt like I tweaked something in between sets, felt wrong so I went home. Got worse the next two days, but now I feel close to normal again. Gonna be safe and go light for my lower body lifts the next couple of weeks.

[Boogie]

Thanks guys. 

I injured my knee pretty bad last year and so squats and deads have been out of the picture. I've still been lifting what I can but leg day was non existent with rehab and set backs so I stopped really giving a fuck about my diet. I gained a good amount of fat back but I've made strength gains! I'm finally going to be squatting again next week so ILL BE BACK BITCHES

That sucks, Mups. 

I've felt really fortunate to have been nearly completely injury-free for the past 3 years.

They key to training is specificity and since you're doing a lot of different things one day a week you're going to progress in those areas as much as 1/7th as fast as someone who just lifts (or just trains jiu jitsu, etc.)

But don't let that discourage you. Keep doing what's fun for you. You're in the top 1% of fitness in North America for sure. Really impressive. If you are really concerned about that last 5% of body fat my advice would be to tweak your diet even more—especially the amount and timing of your carbs. Congrats on the beach body!

Yeah, I've pretty much accepted the nature and limits of my "jack of all trades" regimen.   I'm quite satisfied with my physique, I'm not really "concerned" about getting even leaner, I just had thought the drop from 195 to 183ish would have finally made that damned six pack show up. 

And yeah, the only thing left for improvement on the aesthetic front is probably to get really obsessive/disciplined on the diet.

[Boogie]

Also, going back a bit, this thread is really weird to read through with all of Biz's posts gone. 

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.canadianprotein.com/  this is a great cheep place

been putting on more muscle and losing weight again. 

[Kara]

I keep trying to build my cycling endurance so that I can ride a century or something this fall but all I end up doing is increasing my average speed with minimal endurance gains. 

My current road bike is an entry model / not specialized (har har) so I was hoping to have a better feel for what kind of rider I was so as to make a more niche acquisition for this goal of mine. Not going to happen.

Have a crippling speed addiction brehs.

[Tasty]

1500 yards today. 30 laps. 

I looked it up and on May 15th I was saying how happy I was that I swam 2000 yards over 3-4 days. That really puts my progress into perspective.

I swam 12 laps in a row but I'm not really counting it (towards my plan) since there were this clueless teen couple in the lane with me, forcing me to stop (and breath) at several points. I mean, they seemed nice, but when I say "I'll swim on the right side, k?" and they say "Yes, of course," and then the girl is swimming on the right side (slowly) in front of me it's like...  They left halfway through my set but the latter half is easier than the former half.

Then I tried circle swimming with them which mostly worked but I had to look ahead every other stroke with ruined my form. Ah well, I'm planning on staying on Week 4 next week too, gonna be a bit before I can do 12 in a row consistently well.

Week 5 is 20 laps in a row. Gonna be rough brehs.

[Kara]

It's really frustrating when you're trying to be a fitness tryhard and some dorks get in your way. The amount of clueless joggers and couples riding slowly side by side have made my local bikepath super struggle. Fucking sucks. I just end up riding the road most of the time now which my balls don't really care for because the roads are shit here, my frame isn't carbon, and my bike is about 2-3 generations out of date when it comes to ride smoothness.

[Tasty]

It's really frustrating when you're trying to be a fitness tryhard and some dorks get in your way. The amount of clueless joggers and couples riding slowly side by side have made my local bikepath super struggle. Fucking sucks.

It's the first time this has happened to me on a weekday. Weekends are free game since half the pool is open to families or whatever, but 7pm on a weekday? I could tell they were doing something, possibly trying to improve the girl's form, but their behavior was so sloppy. They certainly weren't exericising, as they'd hang at the ends after every half lap for several minutes, alternating all the types of stroke and even using a kickboard once.

The other lanes consisted of a beginner's group (taking up two lanes), and four lanes with two old people each going back and forth at 1 yard a minute.

Then at like 7:35 everybody cleared out, right as I was finishing up. 

At least on a bike you can have the satisfaction of leaving them in the dust. If you're in a lane with a clueless berk you're pretty much screwed until they leave or another lane opens up.

[Kara]

You can leave them in the dust, but because you're the bigger, faster object you have the responsibility to not hit them and it's really a drag to spend your workout more worried about not crashing into people who don't pay attention, wear headphones because their workout isn't HARDCORE and they have to entertain themselves, or don't know how to yield the right of way than improving your technique or getting that last bit of performance out of yourself.

Glad I don't really have to share a pool all of a sudden.

[Madrun Badrun]

My protein came after one day and free shipping!  Must be based out of T.O.

Gonna finally be able to afford to get the right amount of protein in without a shit tone of carbs and fat. 

[Tasty]

This morning Misfit dropped the price on their fitness trackers.



The aluminum Shine (which I use) is now $70 (instead of $100.) Though, for a while now you could get it for $58-95 on Amazon depending on which color you want.



The plastic Flash is $30 (instead of $50.) It's rated for 30m of water resistance, while the Shine is rated for 50m (which is why I chose the Shine.)



They also just announced the Flash Link for $20, which is literally just a Flash without a wrist band in the box.



That's one of the great things about the Shine and Flash, they can be worn on the wrist or clipped to your shirt, shoe, waistband, etc. Or even just stored in your pocket.



If you were wondering, the Shine and Flash are small, waterproof activity trackers with no screens. They run for 3 months at a time on a watch battery, and sync to the Misfit iOS or Android app via Bluetooth. You can manually tag various types of activity such as swimming, cycling, etc., and the device will automatically track steps, general physical activity, and sleep (with a graph showing when you're in light or heavy sleep.) You double tap the face of the device (Shine) or "click" it (Flash) to get a series of 1 to 12 lights on the face showing your progress for the day (for example, 6 lights means you're at 50%.) It can also display the time.

I've had my Shine for two months and I don't have anything other than glowing things to say about it.

/shill

[Boogie]

New low for me!   180.8 on the scales post-workout today!

I wonder if I can see 179.9 tomorrow.   Probably too much of a stretch.