Author Topic: Nintendo in 2010: Part 3 (The Future) (Read 11539 times)

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #120 on:** January 06, 2010, 12:34:45 AM »

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/nielsen-survey-says-most-psp-users-are-female-xbox-360-most-pla/

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Nielsen's survey claims the Xbox 360 is the most played console (ranked by share of total usage minutes), taking 23.1% of the measured playtime. Sony's PlayStation 2 netted second with 20.4% and the Nintendo Wii closed up the top three with 19% of the vote.

Oh snap. Girls spend more time on a real man's system than the Wii. They're buying them, just not playing them.

Ichirou · « **Reply #121 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:35:02 AM »

We need more posters like Nintendosbooger. He's like the Rush Limbaugh of Nintendo.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #122 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:53:41 AM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 12:10:40 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar

So either just start making an alt for gaf or just ... I dunno, deal.

What? You mean either except the status quo here or re-register on GAF under a new nick and hide among the masses like a roach? I'm not down with either, man. My days posting on GAF are done and this is my new home. I doubt the creators of this community wanted this place to be nothing more than a hub for Nintendo-hating lemmings; I'm to assume that it was originally designed to be a loosely moderated forum for all sorts of boisterous fans.

So you're on a quest for reform of what is generally a pretty laid back, dedicated troll forum? Well, good luck on that. Cornelius has gone borderline Green Shinobi on the project, so it looks like you're down one disciple for The Uppity Cause.

Also worth noting here is that there is a reason as to why the Wii is shat on more than any other platform around here. It's not a well liked platform, and no amount of preaching about its grand general appeal and sales dominance is going to change that. That, and it enrages Nintendo fans into sulfurous preaching benders.

By the way, you don't actually know who the "creators" of EB are, do you?

Ichirou · « **Reply #123 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:55:57 AM »

Shigeru Miyamoto and Hiroshi Yamauchi?

Ichirou · « **Reply #124 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:11:36 AM »

bork · « **Reply #125 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:25:04 AM »

xfe

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #126 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:07:28 AM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 12:10:40 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar

So either just start making an alt for gaf or just ... I dunno, deal.

What? You mean either except the status quo here or re-register on GAF under a new nick and hide among the masses like a roach? I'm not down with either, man. My days posting on GAF are done and this is my new home. I doubt the creators of this community wanted this place to be nothing more than a hub for Nintendo-hating lemmings; I'm to assume that it was originally designed to be a loosely moderated forum for all sorts of boisterous fans.

You don't like it? Kiss my ass you don't like it, I'm still here.

The Fake Shemp = Willco? Wow, I thought I smelled pussy in here.

But why make this your home when your tastes don't align with the majority of posters. I'm only here because... well most people know. It's a secret. But the internet is a wide and vast place, find greener pastures.

tiesto · « **Reply #127 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:11:08 AM »

Quote from: dcharlie on January 06, 2010, 12:01:14 AM

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Actually my game sounds awesome. I hope somebody makes it.

Barackonetta
Obamaramasa
President Evil: The Obamafella files

Little President's Story

Let's hope Obama is a secret character in the new NBA Jam game for Wii.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #128 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:44:19 AM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on January 06, 2010, 01:53:41 AM

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 12:10:40 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar

So either just start making an alt for gaf or just ... I dunno, deal.

What? You mean either except the status quo here or re-register on GAF under a new nick and hide among the masses like a roach? I'm not down with either, man. My days posting on GAF are done and this is my new home. I doubt the creators of this community wanted this place to be nothing more than a hub for Nintendo-hating lemmings; I'm to assume that it was originally designed to be a loosely moderated forum for all sorts of boisterous fans.

So you're on a quest for reform of what is generally a pretty laid back, dedicated troll forum? Well, good luck on that. Cornelius has gone borderline Green Shinobi on the project, so it looks like you're down one disciple for The Uppity Cause.

Also worth noting here is that there is a reason as to why the Wii is shat on more than any other platform around here. It's not a well liked platform, and no amount of preaching about its grand general appeal and sales dominance is going to change that. That, and it enrages Nintendo fans into sulfurous preaching benders.

By the way, you don't actually know who the "creators" of EB are, do you?

When duckman and emceegrammer are making statements like this, you should listen

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #129 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:08:45 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 12:10:40 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar

So either just start making an alt for gaf or just ... I dunno, deal.

except

"accept"

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #130 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:15:37 PM »

This board needs posters like Nintendobooger

Oblivion · « **Reply #131 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:19:15 PM »

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Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata confirmed to Japan's Asahi Shimbun daily today that the Wii Zelda sequel, first revealed at last year's E3, will be released this year.

EB fucking DESTROYED.

Miyamoto-sama

Purple Filth · « **Reply #132 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:28:45 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on January 06, 2010, 01:53:41 AM

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 12:10:40 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar

So either just start making an alt for gaf or just ... I dunno, deal.

What? You mean either except the status quo here or re-register on GAF under a new nick and hide among the masses like a roach? I'm not down with either, man. My days posting on GAF are done and this is my new home. I doubt the creators of this community wanted this place to be nothing more than a hub for Nintendo-hating lemmings; I'm to assume that it was originally designed to be a loosely moderated forum for all sorts of boisterous fans.

So you're on a quest for reform of what is generally a pretty laid back, dedicated troll forum? Well, good luck on that. Cornelius has gone borderline Green Shinobi on the project, so it looks like you're down one disciple for The Uppity Cause.

Also worth noting here is that there is a reason as to why the Wii is shat on more than any other platform around here. It's not a well liked platform, and no amount of preaching about its grand general appeal and sales dominance is going to change that. That, and it enrages Nintendo fans into sulfurous preaching benders.

By the way, you don't actually know who the "creators" of EB are, do you?

@bold: This is why the wii hating is hilarious

duckman2000 · « **Reply #133 on:** January 06, 2010, 02:29:21 PM »

Ganon is in the game? Spoilers

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #134 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:49:37 PM »

The future of Nintendo is making fat sacks of cash from selling games made in 2007 on hardware that would be acceptable tech in 2000.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #135 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:04:10 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on January 06, 2010, 05:49:37 PM

The future of Nintendo is making fat sacks of cash from selling games made in 2007 on hardware that would be acceptable tech in 2000.

The Wii mote and Nchuck would have been ahead of their time in 2000, and many experts have stated that the Wii hardware is superior to last gen machines, so the Wii's specs fall in line with the natural progression of console hardware advancement.

It terms of raw horsepower, is it weaker than the PS3 and Xbox 360? Absolutely. However, as a video game console, that does not make it technically inferior to the other two when you pause to consider the fact that some Wii games cannot be executed on the HD consoles. So the playing field, in that regard, is even.

The deciding factor, as always, will be determined by the software. The Wii has the most successful software at this point, some of which will make it to the record books. That said, the Wii's hardware can be perceived as being STRONGER than those of the other two on the basis of its compatibility with great, successful software.

Third · « **Reply #136 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:06:53 PM »

Yeah, the DS is also more powerful than the PSP. And the Ps3/X360 are more powerful than a PC.

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #137 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:31:34 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 06:04:10 PM

Quote from: T EXP on January 06, 2010, 05:49:37 PM
The future of Nintendo is making fat sacks of cash from selling games made in 2007 on hardware that would be acceptable tech in 2000.

The Wii mote and Nchuck would have been ahead of their time in 2000, and many experts have stated that the Wii hardware is superior to last gen machines, so the Wii's specs fall in line with the natural progression of console hardware advancement.

The Wii is on par with the PS2. It's a horrible nightmare to work with and a giant fucking kludge. It's one reason I'm glad at my new job. I don't have to work on it anymore. PS3/360 is so much nicer.

Bebpo · « **Reply #138 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:39:26 PM »

Quote from: M3wThr33 on January 06, 2010, 06:31:34 PM

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: T EXP on January 06, 2010, 05:49:37 PM
The future of Nintendo is making fat sacks of cash from selling games made in 2007 on hardware that would be acceptable tech in 2000.

The Wii mote and Nchuck would have been ahead of their time in 2000, and many experts have stated that the Wii hardware is superior to last gen machines, so the Wii's specs fall in line with the natural progression of console hardware advancement.

The Wii is on par with the PS2. It's a horrible nightmare to work with and a giant fucking kludge. It's one reason I'm glad at my new job. I don't have to work on it anymore. PS3/360 is so much nicer.

Yeah, I think most of us figured this out when every Wii game released looked worse than GC games and non-shovelware PS2 titles.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #139 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:43:57 PM »

Quote from: M3wThr33

The Wii is on par with the PS2. It's a horrible nightmare to work with and a giant fucking kludge. It's one reason I'm glad at my new job. I don't have to work on it anymore. PS3/360 is so much nicer.

What is it that you do, or did on the Wii? Programmer?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #140 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:53:53 PM »

nintendo's already hinting at trying to grab back some of the core gamer market they lost this time with their next stuff

they know the pet rock syndrome isn't going to last forever, and when it finally does crash it's going to crash pretty hard

they're really smart with iteration

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #141 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:28:54 PM »

I did gameplay programming for Pixar's Up. Not so bad for the Wii in that respect, aside from trying to put in a Wiimotion for cranking and that was a nightmare. (It was before MotionPlus)

On Spongebob's Truth or Square I added support for the Classic Controller and GameCube controller and... OH MY GOD, I wanted to kill myself. To add the TRCs for the menu and just have all the switching work and show the proper buttons and certain checks... *barf*
Mainly it was how on the GameCube controller ports we AREN'T allowed to detect controller disconnects because of how flaky the Wavebird can be. Shit like that. Also making sure the analog triggers felt right, disabling sound on the Wiimote when using the classic controller, and only let you control the Home Menu with those controllers if you actually called it up from that. The documentation was a nightmare. (And I had to deal with fixing In-game XMB issues on the PS3 for Up, so it wasn't new to me)

Seriously, if Nintendo wants to make their games better, they can start by making actual APIs and not requiring us to access low level shit and code around their apps to FAKE looking like it's all one cohesive system.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #142 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:49:26 PM »

Quote from: M3wThr33 on January 06, 2010, 07:28:54 PM

I did gameplay programming for Pixar's Up. Not so bad for the Wii in that respect, aside from trying to put in a Wiimotion for cranking and that was a nightmare. (It was before MotionPlus)

On Spongebob's Truth or Square I added support for the Classic Controller and GameCube controller and... OH MY GOD, I wanted to kill myself. To add the TRCs for the menu and just have all the switching work and show the proper buttons and certain checks... *barf*
Mainly it was how on the GameCube controller ports we AREN'T allowed to detect controller disconnects because of how flaky the Wavebird can be. Shit like that. Also making sure the analog triggers felt right, disabling sound on the Wiimote when using the classic controller, and only let you control the Home Menu with those controllers if you actually called it up from that. The documentation was a nightmare. (And I had to deal with fixing In-game XMB issues on the PS3 for Up, so it wasn't new to me)

Seriously, if Nintendo wants to make their games better, they can start by making actual APIs and not requiring us to access low level shit and code around their apps to FAKE looking like it's all one cohesive system.

Well, Nintendo manages to make polished and successful games with the same hardware that had troubled you, so perhaps the real issue isn't with the machine?

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #143 on:** January 06, 2010, 07:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 06, 2010, 06:53:53 PM

nintendo's already hinting at trying to grab back some of the core gamer market they lost this time with their next stuff

they know the pet rock syndrome isn't going to last forever, and when it finally does crash it's going to crash pretty hard

they're really smart with iteration

I think they know that the grandmas and soccer moms might move on even within the timespan of the Wii itself, which is why we're getting Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid. That isn't a whole hell of a lot but it is a sign that Nintendo wants to bring some more of their alienated base back.

Ichirou · « **Reply #144 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:01:10 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 06, 2010, 07:49:26 PM

Quote from: M3wThr33 on January 06, 2010, 07:28:54 PM
I did gameplay programming for Pixar's Up. Not so bad for the Wii in that respect, aside from trying to put in a Wiimotion for cranking and that was a nightmare. (It was before MotionPlus)

On Spongebob's Truth or Square I added support for the Classic Controller and GameCube controller and... OH MY GOD, I wanted to kill myself. To add the TRCs for the menu and just have all the switching work and show the proper buttons and certain checks... *barf*
Mainly it was how on the GameCube controller ports we AREN'T allowed to detect controller disconnects because of how flaky the Wavebird can be. Shit like that. Also making sure the analog triggers felt right, disabling sound on the Wiimote when using the classic controller, and only let you control the Home Menu with those controllers if you actually called it up from that. The documentation was a nightmare. (And I had to deal with fixing In-game XMB issues on the PS3 for Up, so it wasn't new to me)

Seriously, if Nintendo wants to make their games better, they can start by making actual APIs and not requiring us to access low level shit and code around their apps to FAKE looking like it's all one cohesive system.

Well, Nintendo manages to make polished and successful games with the same hardware that had troubled you, so perhaps the real issue isn't with the machine?

Wow, fuck you.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #145 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:03:43 PM »

Holy shit.

demi · « **Reply #146 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:03:52 PM »

That one went way over Booger's head

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #147 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:28:51 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 08:03:52 PM

That one went way over Booger's head

Oh no. He's right. Random stupid hardware ideas are totally polish.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #148 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:49:36 PM »

nintendo rolls their own tools and apis and hides them from third-parties; microsoft and sony share them out. and you expect devs to flock to nintendo why?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #149 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:50:47 PM »

Sounds like lazy developers go to systems to make shovelware, but real talented developers have to untap the true potential of the Wii

Oblivion · « **Reply #150 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:02:14 PM »

Wasn't the GC the second easiest-to-program-for console after the original Xbox?

Ichirou · « **Reply #151 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:04:24 PM »

That was the big selling point from Nintendo anyway.

Third · « **Reply #152 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:17:23 PM »

Isn't the Wii basically a Gamecube Turbo? Why should it be so hard to develop for the system? The devtools are almost 10 years old.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #153 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:18:15 PM »

I think Nintendo gets a little too much flak for doing whats profitable. If you want to compare internal development between the big three, only Sony has made any effort on their part to make core games consistently. I think what it comes down to as that the few new things Nintendo did last gen like Pikmin or Drill Dozer where either slightly successful or downright bombs, so they decided to study the market. They concluded accessible controls and nongames were what it would take to be relevant. And with surgical precision they made games that sold astronomically well. The newest one being Tomadachi Collection. My only real beef with them is that they aren't marketing some of the gamer games. Excitebots received zero promotion. Captain Rainbow and Disaster (while both probably mediocre) also didn't receive adequate marketing. They all bombed.

Ichirou · « **Reply #154 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:23:38 PM »

Is Tomodachi Collection getting an English version? My students love that non-game.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #155 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:25:37 PM »

Elefino!
I looke at a few trailer and it looked kinda Japanesy. So I guess NoA is considering how they would localise it.

Third · « **Reply #156 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:28:30 PM »

Captain Rainbow?

...

?

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #157 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:48:53 PM »

Yeah. GameCube was easier than PS2, but that's all relative. It doesn't help that the Wii is using the same old dev tools that the GameCube used, just heavily hacked, while the Sony and MS IDEs got heavily updated.

As far as I know, you can still only set ONE SINGLE Data breakpoint on the Wii at a time. I believe that may have finally been upgraded recently.

demi · « **Reply #158 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:51:11 PM »

Disaster is awesome

Purple Filth · « **Reply #159 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:17:16 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 09:51:11 PM

Disaster is awesome

is that game ever coming to america?

magus · « **Reply #160 on:** January 07, 2010, 05:54:12 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 09:23:38 PM

Is Tomodachi Collection getting an English version? My students love that non-game.

ok i have to ask,what is exactly this game and how the heck was it able to sell 2 freakin millions? is gaming health that bad?

Quote from: Purple Filth on January 06, 2010, 10:17:16 PM

Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 09:51:11 PM
Disaster is awesome

is that game ever coming to america?

no but demi is lying

tiesto · « **Reply #161 on:** January 07, 2010, 09:02:14 AM »

Quote from: magus on January 07, 2010, 05:54:12 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
Is Tomodachi Collection getting an English version? My students love that non-game.
ok i have to ask,what is exactly this game and how the heck was it able to sell 2 freakin millions? is gaming health that bad?
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 06, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 09:51:11 PM
Disaster is awesome

is that game ever coming to america?
no but demi is lying

I believe it's Animal Crossing with Miis... it'll be massive once it hits the US I'm sure. Which, wtf is Nintendo waiting for?

MoxManiac · « **Reply #162 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:41:03 AM »

Wii is the exclusive home of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom for some stupid reason, so I can't fault the system too much

M3wThr33 · « **Reply #163 on:** January 07, 2010, 03:30:59 PM »

Quote from: MoxManiac on January 07, 2010, 11:41:03 AM

Wii is the exclusive home of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom for some stupid reason, so I can't fault the system too much

You can fault them for stealing that and Monster Hunter. Imagine them in HD with REAL online and voice chat.

Nintendosbooger · « **Reply #164 on:** January 07, 2010, 03:41:35 PM »

Quote from: M3wThr33 on January 07, 2010, 03:30:59 PM

Quote from: MoxManiac on January 07, 2010, 11:41:03 AM
Wii is the exclusive home of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom for some stupid reason, so I can't fault the system too much
You can fault them for stealing that and Monster Hunter. Imagine them in HD with REAL online and voice chat.

REAL online and HD and VOICE Chat and all that $$$$$$$ that would have been flushed down the drain because no one would have bought it given their shitty install base in Japan!

demi · « **Reply #165 on:** January 07, 2010, 03:50:59 PM »

Quote from: magus on January 07, 2010, 05:54:12 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
Is Tomodachi Collection getting an English version? My students love that non-game.
ok i have to ask,what is exactly this game and how the heck was it able to sell 2 freakin millions? is gaming health that bad?
Quote from: Purple Filth on January 06, 2010, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: demi on January 06, 2010, 09:51:11 PM
Disaster is awesome

is that game ever coming to america?
no but demi is lying

Sorry Disaster doesnt have any grinding to do. Disaster is awesome.

bork · « **Reply #166 on:** January 07, 2010, 04:41:20 PM »

Quote from: Nintendosbooger on January 07, 2010, 03:41:35 PM

Quote from: M3wThr33 on January 07, 2010, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: MoxManiac on January 07, 2010, 11:41:03 AM
Wii is the exclusive home of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom for some stupid reason, so I can't fault the system too much
You can fault them for stealing that and Monster Hunter. Imagine them in HD with REAL online and voice chat.

REAL online and HD and VOICE Chat and all that $$$$$$$ that would have been flushed down the drain because no one would have bought it given their shitty install base in Japan!

They also make Monster Hunter for PC.

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Purple Filth · « **Reply #167 on:** January 07, 2010, 05:23:59 PM »

Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on January 07, 2010, 05:11:37 PM

There is a Monster Hunter for PC?

Yea MMO style.

Get your crew and wreak shit up

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Author Topic: Nintendo in 2010: Part 3 (The Future) (Read 11539 times)