Nintendo Wii has better third party games than the GC (Numbers)

[Nintendosbooger]

Below are the metacritic scores of the top 10 Gamecube and Wii third-party console exclusives. When adding up the score, you’ll notice that the Wii comes well ahead of the GC in terms of quality third party video game.

I’ve omitted and added a number of games, including Resident Evil 4 for the Gamecube (which wasn’t a third party GC exclusive in the previous generation, as it arrived on the PS2) and PGA Tour 10 Wii ( which was so fundamentally different from the other versions, that I consider it a Wii exclusive on the strength of its unique features).

Anyway, here are the games and their metacritic scores:

GC
Resident Evil – 91
Super Monkey Ball 2 – 87
Super Monkey Ball 1 - 87
Tales of Symphonia – 86
MGS: Twin Snakes – 85
Resident Evil Zero – 83
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles – 80
Pacman Vs. - 78
Battalion Wars - 76
Baten Kaitos Origins - 75

Avg Score: 82.8


Wii
World of Goo – 94
Resident Evil 4: Wii – 91
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 - 88
Zack & Wiki – 87
Little King’s Story – 87
LostWinds: Winter of Melodias – 86
Boom Blox Bash Party – 86
Boom Blox – 85
No More Heroes – 83
Dead Space Extraction – 82

Avg Score: 86.9

That's pretty damn impressive considering the Wii is still in its infancy and the gaming press is biased against the system.

EDIT: Removed VJ from the GC list. I forgot it came out for the PS2. Added BW.
EDIT 2: Removed Ikaruga from the GC list. Added BK: 0

[Third]

You placed RE4 on the wrong system.

[Flannel Boy]

Wii: Better third Party Exclusives than the GameCube!

Malek: talking to more girls than Arvie!

That's pretty damn impressive considering the Wii is still in its infancy

I think you're confusing the conole with the console's fanbase. 

[Nintendosbooger]

You placed RE4 on the wrong system.

I didn't. RE4 came out for the Playstation 2, as well, so it wasn't really a third party console exclusive. RE4 Wii, however, was a game completely tailored for the Wii, much in the same way PGA Tour 10 was, and hasn't seen multiple consoles this generation, so, essentially, it's a Wii third party exclusive.

[dark1x]

You placed RE4 on the wrong system.

I didn't. RE4 came out for the Playstation 2, as well, so it wasn't really a third party console exclusive. RE4 Wii, however, was a game completely tailored for the Wii, much in the same way PGA Tour 10 was, and hasn't seen multiple consoles this generation, so, essentially, it's a Wii third party exclusive.

It is NOT completely tailored for the Wii.  The Wii additions are simply bolted on.  It's not even a particularly well thought out control scheme.  It was a port, plain and simple.  Counting it as a Wii game and not a GC game is bullocks.

Including it basically negates your whole topic as well as it demonstrates that you are taking a harder stance against the Gamecube in favor of the Wii.

[Third]

No it isn't. It's still the same game.

And...

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/cube/eternaldarkness?q=eternal%20darkness

Eternal Darkness - 92

For the Gamecube.

Gamecube>>>>Wii

[demi]

Suddenly waggle means its a brand new game

[MCD]

impressive post as usual nintendosbooger, keep up the good work.

[duckman2000]

So who is going to start the daily PS3 and 360 threads?

[Don Flamenco]

um, the Wii edition is the PS2 version with waggle added in.    

This is low, even for a NB thread. Averages of game rankings scores with games selectively added/removed...epic troll is epic.

[Third]

nvm

[Flannel Boy]

Is there a reason you omitted Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader. It is shitty, but according to your god, metacritic, it averaged a 90.

[demi]

How is Wii in its infancy? It's been out for almost 4 years.

[Nintendosbooger]

No it isn't. It's still the same game.

And...

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/cube/eternaldarkness?q=eternal%20darkness

Eternal Darkness - 92

For the Gamecube.

Gamecube>>>>Wii

ED doesn't count as SK was second party at the time. I'm talking third party games here.

[tiesto]

Meh, I liked Skies of Arcadia Legends, Baten Kaitos: Origins, and Tales of Symphonia a helluva lot more than most Wii 3rd party games.

[Nintendosbooger]

Is there a reason you omitted Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader. It is shitty, but according to your god, metacritic, it averaged a 90.

Factor 5 was SECOND party. Learn to read.

[Flannel Boy]

The game was published by LucasArts.

[demi]

What's a second party?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_development_parties

[duckman2000]

WTF is "second party," anyway? Third party under contractual obligation? Sounds like a third party with a first party publisher to me.

[Third]

The only thing this thread confirms is the shitty third party situation for both Nintendo consoles.

[magus]

can i mention little king story and how much awesome it is for the 13569th time?  

[Nintendosbooger]

Suddenly waggle means its a brand new game

I never said that.

RE4 was multiplatform last gen; however, RE4, with motion control, is exclusive to the Wii this generation. The added "waggle" functionality doesn't make it a NEW game per say but it's damn near close and critics have proclaimed that it's more than just a port. In the event that it is released for the PS3/Xbox360, with motion controls, then it can be considered a multiplatform title this gen.

[Flannel Boy]

The 25th ranked wii game on metacritic is Super Paper Mario, at an average score of 85.
The 25th ranked GC game on metacritic is Tiger Woods PGA, at an average score of 90.

Numbers don't lie.

The 50th ranked wii game on metacritic is Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 4: Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective, sounds awesome, at an average score of 81.
The 50th ranked GC game on metacritic is Super Monkey Ball, at an average score of 87.

Wait? WTF am I doing?

[Don Flamenco]

The 25th ranked wii game on metacritic is Super Paper Mario, at an average score of 85.
The 25th ranked GC game on metacritic is Tiger Woods PGA, at an average score of 90.

Numbers don't lie.

The 50th ranked wii game on metacritic is Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 4: Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective, sounds awesome, at an average score of 81.
The 50th ranked GC game on metacritic is Super Monkey Ball, at an average score of 87.

Wait? WTF am I doing?

Yes, but you haven't adjusted for second party companies, exclusivity, and one other category I'm forgetting...oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged agenda.  That last one really changes things around.

[Nintendosbooger]

Even if we were to add Rogue Leader, which I'm not for reasons stated above, it won't make much of a difference. The Wii is still ahead of the GC in avg score.

[bork]

Suddenly waggle means its a brand new game

I never said that.

RE4 was multiplatform last gen; however, RE4, with motion control, is exclusive to the Wii this generation. The added "waggle" functionality doesn't make it a NEW game per say but it's damn near close and critics have proclaimed that it's more than just a port. In the event that it is released for the PS3/Xbox360, with motion controls, then it can be considered a multiplatform title this gen.

No it isn't.  It's the same game, but you have the option to use the Wii controller for aiming and shooting much like you would a mouse on a PC.  What critics have "proclaimed that it's more than just a port?"  Or rather, which Nintendo fan site said this crap?  It's a port.  I would say it's the overall best version of RE4, but I also have never played the PC version (with all its patches available).

[Howard Alan Treesong]

So the Wii is ahead of the GC, except when it isn't? Which is always, according to the numbers? Got it. P.S. Numbers don't lie.

[Nintendosbooger]

The 25th ranked wii game on metacritic is Super Paper Mario, at an average score of 85.
The 25th ranked GC game on metacritic is Tiger Woods PGA, at an average score of 90.

Numbers don't lie.

The 50th ranked wii game on metacritic is Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 4: Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective, sounds awesome, at an average score of 81.
The 50th ranked GC game on metacritic is Super Monkey Ball, at an average score of 87.

Wait? WTF am I doing?

You can't do it that way, you dumb fuck. The GC list would be top heavy with all the first party Nintendo releases during the full length of the GC lifespan, pushing more of the other decent games down. The Wii hasn't been around as long. That method would only work when comparing their libraries in TOTALITY at the end of the Wii's lifecycle. My method works better.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

The 25th ranked wii game on metacritic is Super Paper Mario, at an average score of 85.
The 25th ranked GC game on metacritic is Tiger Woods PGA, at an average score of 90.

Numbers don't lie.

The 50th ranked wii game on metacritic is Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Episode 4: Dangeresque 3: The Criminal Projective, sounds awesome, at an average score of 81.
The 50th ranked GC game on metacritic is Super Monkey Ball, at an average score of 87.

Wait? WTF am I doing?

You can't do it that way, you dumb fuck. The GC list would be top heavy with all the first party Nintendo releases during the full length of the GC lifespan, pushing more of the other decent games down. The Wii hasn't been around as long. That method would only work when comparing their libraries in TOTALITY at the end of the Wii's lifecycle. My method works better.

truly, you're methodis impressive

[Robo]

Leper this imbecile already.

[bork]

I like that the top three Wii titles are all multiplatform. 

Nintendobooger, it's time for this shit to stop.  Keep your crap in one single thread.

[Third]

The Wii has almost three times the userbase of the Gamecube, and yet the Wii is doing worse support wise.
Wow, pretty terrible.

[Nintendosbooger]

Suddenly waggle means its a brand new game

I never said that.

RE4 was multiplatform last gen; however, RE4, with motion control, is exclusive to the Wii this generation. The added "waggle" functionality doesn't make it a NEW game per say but it's damn near close and critics have proclaimed that it's more than just a port. In the event that it is released for the PS3/Xbox360, with motion controls, then it can be considered a multiplatform title this gen.

No it isn't.  It's the same game, but you have the option to use the Wii controller for aiming and shooting much like you would a mouse on a PC.  What critics have "proclaimed that it's more than just a port?"  Or rather, which Nintendo fan site said this crap?  It's a port.  I would say it's the overall best version of RE4, but I also have never played the PC version (with all its patches available).

Not fansites. Magazines, big sites claiming that the Wii functionality adds a new dimension to the game.

[bork]

I like that you can't name any of them.  Not that it matters, because that is bullshit.

[Phoenix Dark]

Resident Evil 4: Wii – 91

[Nintendosbooger]

No More Heroes is being released for the 360/PS3. Or since those ports aren't out yet it doesn't count?

They come out at the end of February, I believe, so it's still a Wii exclusive at this point. It won't change the avg score much once NMH2 is released exclusively for the Wii (which will blow the first installment away).

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Suddenly waggle means its a brand new game

I never said that.

RE4 was multiplatform last gen; however, RE4, with motion control, is exclusive to the Wii this generation. The added "waggle" functionality doesn't make it a NEW game per say but it's damn near close and critics have proclaimed that it's more than just a port. In the event that it is released for the PS3/Xbox360, with motion controls, then it can be considered a multiplatform title this gen.

No it isn't.  It's the same game, but you have the option to use the Wii controller for aiming and shooting much like you would a mouse on a PC.  What critics have "proclaimed that it's more than just a port?"  Or rather, which Nintendo fan site said this crap?  It's a port.  I would say it's the overall best version of RE4, but I also have never played the PC version (with all its patches available).

Not fansites. Magazines, big sites claiming that the Wii functionality adds a new dimension to the game.

Apparently that "new dimension" was the MINUS WORLD - minus 5, to be exact. Numbers = reality.

[Nintendosbooger]

I like that you can't name any of them.  Not that it matters, because that is bullshit.

I don't have the quotes saved or fucking bookmarked, but I'll try to find them later.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I like that you can't name any of them.  Not that it matters, because that is bullshit.

I don't have the quotes saved or fucking bookmarked, but I'll try to find them later.

Run a filter on (Wii Score < GameCube Score), and those bookmarks will filter up to the top.

Not only do numbers not lie, they make great sorting algorithms.

[Nintendosbooger]

Apparently that "new dimension" was the MINUS WORLD - minus 5, to be exact. Numbers = reality.

There are reasons behind every score. If I recall correctly, it got a lower score as a result of the graphics, which wasn't up to the gaming media's HD standards. Plus, as stated in the OP, Wii games have a harder obstacle to overcome as a result of the gaming media's bias against the Wii itself, but even taking that into account, its games edge out those of the GC among these reviewers, which is an amazing feat.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Apparently that "new dimension" was the MINUS WORLD - minus 5, to be exact. Numbers = reality.

There are reasons behind every score. If I recall correctly, it got a lower score as a result of the graphics, which wasn't up to the gaming media's HD standards. Plus, as stated in the OP, Wii games have a harder obstacle to overcome as a result of the gaming media's bias against the Wii itself, but even taking that into account, its games edge out those of the GC among these reviewers, which is an amazing feat.

So we both agree that games on the Wii are handicapped from the start? Good to know.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

8-bit fanwank!

Mega Man 9 Wii: 83
Mega Man 9 Xbox 360: 82
Mega Man 9 PS3: 77

I guess Wii owners liked it more because it looked like the graphics they're used to.

[Nintendosbooger]

Had the MP Trilogy and Pikmin been released with HD graphics, they would have scored A LOT higher. That is fact. Mega Man 9 is a very rare incident (you wouldn't be able to name 10 examples EXACTLY like that), but my theory is that since it was an 8-bit game, graphics never was a factor (as it really shouldn't be) in the scores.

[demi]

Had Pikmin and Trilogy been released in HD I might actually like them... more

[Nintendosbooger]

Had Pikmin and Trilogy been released in HD I might actually like them... more

That is precisely my point. Precisely! Re-release the game with motion controls and significantly improved graphics, and you'll see the Wii version score higher than the original.

[demi]

Well then I guess Nintendo shouldn't have bottlenecked the industry

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I think this is like those Gross Box Office Receipts Adjusted for Inflation movie ticket comparisons. Since the Wii has low-res SD graphics all games automatically get a point multipler of 1.3 (this constant is derived from the inverse log of the pixel fill diference between 480p and 720p, a.k.a. "reviewer's tilt")

[Great Rumbler]

What is this metacritic? Real fanthings use GameRankings.

[pilonv1]

this is amazing

[T234]

Soul Calibur(DC) is better than any game on any Nintendo platform since the SNES.

It fucks Nintendooosbooger in the face and ass nightly whilst screaming "NINTHINGS AND ROCKSTAR ROBBED ME! I SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, NOT THE OVERWROUGHT DRIVEL THAT 'NEW GAMES JOURNALISM' JACKS OFF TO EVERY NIGHT!"

[Nintendosbooger]

Soul Calibur(DC) is better than any game on any Nintendo platform since the SNES.

It fucks Nintendooosbooger in the face and ass nightly whilst screaming "NINTHINGS AND ROCKSTAR ROBBED ME! I SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, NOT THE OVERWROUGHT DRIVEL THAT 'NEW GAMES JOURNALISM' JACKS OFF TO EVERY NIGHT!"

The fuck are you talking about? No one brought up Soul Calibur or the DC until your dumb ass came rumbling into this thread. You're probably a Sega fan piece of shit still butthurt that the company is now spreading its legs for other console manufacturers. Who mentions the Dreamcast these days, anyway?

[T234]

Soul Calibur(DC) is better than any game on any Nintendo platform since the SNES.

It fucks Nintendooosbooger in the face and ass nightly whilst screaming "NINTHINGS AND ROCKSTAR ROBBED ME! I SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, NOT THE OVERWROUGHT DRIVEL THAT 'NEW GAMES JOURNALISM' JACKS OFF TO EVERY NIGHT!"

The fuck are you talking about? No one brought up Soul Calibur or the DC until your dumb ass came rumbling into this thread. You're probably a Sega fan piece of shit still butthurt that the company is now spreading its legs for other console manufacturers. Who mentions the Dreamcast these days, anyway?

[youtube=560,345]uijnGTq4wgI[/youtube]

[Crushed]

NMH2 is released exclusively for the Wii (which will blow the first installment away).

please remove - timed exclusivity only. The other hilarious thing is that there are NO WAGGLE CONTROLS in NMH2.

I think the message is clear : we will complete out contractual obligation for a timed exclusive follow up but this series is now a next gen affair.

uh, previews have said that nmh2 uses the same control scheme, complete with waggle.

[Crushed]

delete evilbore, it's been ruined forever now

[Saint Cornelius]

Nintendosbooger

Nintendobooger, it's time for this shit to stop.  Keep your crap in one single thread.

Srsly you need to stop with the sub GAf moderation style. If there's something in the ToS about how people can only make one Nintendo related thread per 24 hours, you'd have a point, but as it stands you're just a crybaby. The server isn't going to implode from all of Nintendosboogers' posts.

[Crushed]

uh, previews have said that nmh2 uses the same control scheme, complete with waggle.

really? i'd seriously heard that they had totally removed waggle.

Suda said that he saw Monster Hunter 3's popularity so he added in a Classic Controller scheme for 2.

[Nintendosbooger]

You're probably a Sega fan piece of shit still butthurt that the company is now spreading its legs for other console manufacturers

There's a company , can't remember which one, who've been importing Sega's blue mascot thingy into a ton of their games to help boost sales... which company is that again?

I can almost hear the begging... "PLEASE let us use your character, we've run out of creativity "

Is this a joke? Nintendo is the only reason Sega is still afloat. Look at the sales of those Mario/Sonic olympic threads. That's all Nintendo. Sega's upcoming Mario Kart ripoff will undoubtedly end up in the bargain bin along with Bionic Commando.

[Saint Cornelius]

Is this a joke? Nintendo is the only reason Sega is still afloat. Look at the sales of those Mario/Sonic olympic threads. That's all Nintendo. Sega's upcoming Mario Kart ripoff will undoubtedly end up in the bargain bin along with Bionic Commando.

Hey hey hey, now wait a second pal :livid

[iconoclast]

You're probably a Sega fan piece of shit still butthurt that the company is now spreading its legs for other console manufacturers

There's a company , can't remember which one, who've been importing Sega's blue mascot thingy into a ton of their games to help boost sales... which company is that again?

I can almost hear the begging... "PLEASE let us use your character, we've run out of creativity "

Is this a joke? Nintendo is the only reason Sega is still afloat. Look at the sales of those Mario/Sonic olympic threads. That's all Nintendo. Sega's upcoming Mario Kart ripoff will undoubtedly end up in the bargain bin along with Bionic Commando.

why'd you edit Crystal Bearers out?

[demi]

Because it's a Squeenix game... those dont bargain bin