Author Topic: Dragon Age Origins Awakening (Read 13158 times)

Stoney Mason · « **on:** February 01, 2010, 02:55:36 PM »

Might as well create a new thread instead of keep bumping that old one for the main game.

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The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2010, 03:12:32 PM »

I'm just going to wait for the inevitable GOTY edition on this one.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2010, 03:26:14 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 01, 2010, 03:12:32 PM

I'm just going to wait for the inevitable GOTY edition on this one.

It was easily my favorite game of 2009 but I think I'll do the same. I've played it twice though, and revisiting the game with all of the add-ons/DLC + best mods after a year or so of refinement should make for a pleasant experience.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2010, 03:37:06 PM »

You enjoyed Dragon Age: The Search for More DLC more than Spreadsheet Mech Warriors 2009?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2010, 03:59:08 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 01, 2010, 03:12:32 PM

I'm just going to wait for the inevitable GOTY edition on this one.

Same.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:08:26 PM »

I'll take the hit. I enjoyed Dragon Age so much that I don't think I could tolerate waiting to play this one even though I think the price tag is excessive.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:14:45 PM »

Why? Even you admit the price is excessive. Plus, isn't there even more DLC planned? This seems like such a ploy to milk this thing dry that I'd rather wait it out for an affordable option.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:14:57 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 01, 2010, 03:12:32 PM

I'm just going to wait for the inevitable GOTY edition on this one.

Thirded.

On the other hand, I look forward to consumer whoring myself out for the ME2 DLC.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:17:49 PM »

I'm not looking forward to that even! My feelings are different. I felt like Mass Effect 2 was a complete game, and that any DLC is just milking the fanbase dry for extra stuff. Dragon Age felt so fragmented that even after finishing it that I felt like I was being sold the first part of a game that will be delivered via DLC. And then the expansion was announced. Ho, buddy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:19:33 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 01, 2010, 04:14:45 PM

Why? Even you admit the price is excessive. Plus, isn't there even more DLC planned? This seems like such a ploy to milk this thing dry that I'd rather wait it out for an affordable option.

Oh I'm not saying the price isn't a gouge but I just like the game so much I don't overly mind in this case. And I know me. Once the game is out I will want to play it. I won't have the willpower to not do so.

If I had played it on the console it would be a different story since I could just gamefly it, but I played it on the PC so its either buy it or wait and I'm not that strong...

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:21:20 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 01, 2010, 04:17:49 PM

I'm not looking forward to that even! My feelings are different. I felt like Mass Effect 2 was a complete game, and that any DLC is just milking the fanbase dry for extra stuff. Dragon Age felt so fragmented that even after finishing it that I felt like I was being sold the first part of a game that will be delivered via DLC. And then the expansion was announced. Ho, buddy.

Yeah, I finished Dragon Age and it was just like, "uh. nothing happened." That also seems to be the plot of the expansion. "You killed the Arch-demon ... but nothing happened! Find out why!" No, fuck you!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:21:40 PM »

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:23:13 PM »

Dragon Age also had the ending where each of your party members tells you about their Personal Quest they will be going on now that the Arch-demon is defeated, and Perhaps You Can Join Them One Day [INSERT CREDIT CARD TO CONTINUE]

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:26:52 PM »

I also thought the game was pretty formulaic, even for BioWare. And the story stretched my suspension of disbelief a little much. I understand the necessity of having to solve problems to acquire teammates, but did every, single region have to be embroiled in a bitter power struggle for the crown or some kind of horrible incident with mages that threatened their very existence? Coincidentally at the worst possible time to do so?

I just wanted to visit one region where everyone was like, "Yeah, things are pretty quiet here. But we could really use this if we are to help you, go on this quest."

Instead it was like, "END OF THE WORLD? BAH. HELP US GET A KING AND/OR KILL A MAGE!"

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:46:49 PM »

wtf is a Burget King

Is that Polish knockoff?

demi · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:47:35 PM »

Yeah DAO is garbage. Shame that they are revisiting this drek after their FINALLY triumphant return (though to say they returned would be giving too much praise)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2010, 04:59:26 PM »

I never understand this you liked X, Y, Z thing so I can pigeon hole a person's taste or views.

I liked MW 2, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect 2. All for different reasons. All for different reasons regarding the story. What does one game have to do with the other outside of a person's personal preference?

demi · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:03:28 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on February 01, 2010, 04:59:26 PM

I never understand this you liked X, Y, Z thing so I can pigeon hole a person's taste or views.

I liked MW 2, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect 2. All for different reasons. All for different reasons regarding the story. What does one game have to do with the other outside of a person's personal preference?

hurr durr they arent made by bioware

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:06:53 PM »

Quote from: Kosma on February 01, 2010, 05:02:49 PM

You're right. Its just that Willco was able to see beyond the ridiculous plot in MW2 and enjoy it.

I don't agree with Wilco on Dragon Age but at least Dragon Age and Mass Effect are in the same genre.

If we are going to compare like to like then let's compare MW 2 to other shooters where I would argue the plot is no more ridiculous than any other and right in line or above the norm for that genre. But that's a separate debate for some other day and thread.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:07:12 PM »

Quote from: Kosma on February 01, 2010, 05:02:49 PM

You're right. Its just that Willco was able to see beyond the ridiculous plot in MW2 and enjoy it.

This is probably the worst argument I've read on the forum.

Stoney Mason hit the nail on the head. Kosma's lame argument is amplified by the fact that the story and presentation matter most in a RPG over all other genres, save for perhaps point-and-click adventures.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:12:56 PM »

Other games with ridiculous plots that I have enjoyed that Kosma can ridicule: Mario Kart, Street Fighter IV, Peggle, etc.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:18:17 PM »

Yeah, but you also think Roman Polanski should be allowed to rape minors because he directed Chinatown. Does the same rule apply to BioWare? Do they get to write a lame story for every good one they script?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:20:54 PM »

Hey, I didn't invent the Kosma Rule. I'm just asking if it applies here.

demi · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:21:14 PM »

Nope, yours is definitely worse

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:22:13 PM »

How can demi say he likes Bayonetta but dislike Dragon Age, considering Bayonetta's outlandish characters and story? What a ruse!

... back to the topic at hand, how much DLC is planned after Awakening, Stoney?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #25 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:25:38 PM »

Ah, the 'ole Kosma Defense. Well played.

I can say with much certainty that if I wanted to be raped by a BioWare script, it sure as hell wouldn't be Dragon Age.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #26 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:33:58 PM »

I said I had fun playing it. That doesn't mean it is perfect. It was a good rental. I will pick up the GOTY edition in due time.

You just jumped the gun with your defensiveness of a property that isn't very well-written. Patel is the one that really hates it.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:34:49 PM »

Yes, but Patel dresses up like a Mog and probably owns vending machine panties.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:36:24 PM »

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #29 on:** February 01, 2010, 05:40:06 PM »

Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on February 01, 2010, 05:34:49 PM

Yes, but Patel dresses up like a Mog and probably owns vending machine panties.

REAL TALK:
1) I haven't worn the moogle suit in over 8 years! Next year, I can finally celebrate a decade of being Furry-Free.^TM
2) The only panties I ever bought from a vending machine were
a) accidental - it was a blind box prize! I had no idea there were panties inside of that opaque gachapon!
b) clean and unworn

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:03:09 PM »

Dude, I'm pretty sure that I caught Furry Disease just from sleeping with a girl in high school who one day married a guy who just WENT to a furry convention and didn't dress up. So there's no hope for you, no matter how many years go by.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:06:40 PM »

well, furryism is like alcoholism - you're never cured, just cured-for-now

I know I'll never be completely free of the curse ... can't watch the Disney Afternoon ... can't take my children to petting zoos ... but with time and caution, I can move on

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:11:48 PM »

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Third · « **Reply #33 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:25:39 PM »

Wow, this game looks so bad compared to ME2.

Damian79 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 01, 2010, 06:43:36 PM »

IMO its a better game than ME2. ME2 didnt have much in the way of customisation and was dull as hell.

Bildi · « **Reply #35 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:02:03 PM »

Dragon Age certainly gets more enjoyable as you level up a bit, like most RPGs I guess. I'm still only near the start and level 7, but it's starting to get more engaging now.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #36 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:29:53 PM »

Castle LEGO

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #37 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:43:54 PM »

yeah I played as a dual-wielding rogue which was apparently bugged to the point that the Dexterity stat did not affect damage and the off-hand weapon did not contribute to damage. So if I hate Dragon Age the fact that Bioware programmed the game so my PC was 1/4 as effective as I should have been the whole game probably had something to do with it

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:54:27 PM »

right ... it was bugged at launch so that never happened and it continued to calculate only based on Strength

good jon Bioware

game was patched, should be fine now

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:55:13 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 01, 2010, 07:52:09 PM

Is that kind of bug common? And you had taken Lethality, right? I'm playing an archer Rogue right now. I have about 23 dexterity and 12 strength. As I understand it, right now my damage is based on strength, but as soon as I take Lethality my damage calculations will switch over to dexterity, and so my damage output should increase tremendously. Do I have it right?

If you're playing now I believe the rogue issues have been patched along with some other patch fixes in general if you have the latest stuff.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:55:55 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 01, 2010, 07:29:53 PM

Castle LEGO

(Image removed from quote.)

fuck your space lego, here's the REAL awesome Lego

PIRATE SHIP, the greatest Lego set

Bildi · « **Reply #41 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:16:21 PM »

Sorry, space LEGO > *LEGO. Except maybe TECHNIC which is also awesome.

GilloD · « **Reply #42 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:22:23 PM »

The first DLC was hilarious. That guy is like "YOUR DEAD MENTOR MADE ME A PROMISE. DO YOU WANT TO LET HIS MEMORY BE SULLIED? IF NOT INSERT CREDIT CARD NOW OR HIS SOUL IS DAMNED TO HELL"

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #43 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:28:35 PM »

Quote from: GilloD on February 01, 2010, 08:22:23 PM

The first DLC was hilarious. That guy is like "YOUR DEAD MENTOR MADE ME A PROMISE. DO YOU WANT TO LET HIS MEMORY BE SULLIED? IF NOT INSERT CREDIT CARD NOW OR HIS SOUL IS DAMNED TO HELL"

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #44 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:44:49 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 01, 2010, 08:36:33 PM

The more I read about this, the more it seems like Bioware is going with absolutely the most despicable usage of DLC for this one.

DLC shouldn't be available on launch day. Anything available on launch day should be packaged with the game itself. DLC should be something that they start on after the main game is finished. Fuck this shit.

It's not Bioware or more accurately its not just Bioware. It's clearly something that EA is mandating as a company focus because its company wide for them.

They've never had the best practice when it comes to DLC. They mainly use it now as pre-order insurance in most of their games to try to induce you to pre-order or not buy the game used. It all comes down to the game. It's worse in some and better in others. Dragon Age was a particularly egregious case because of the way a game character essentially comes up to you as a salesman. Even that doesn't personally bother me. The real issue was the storage chest which is something that fundamentally should come with the game rather than be something you pay for. Characters, or little quests, or items bother me less.

I don't necessarily agree with the idea that all DLC must be developed after the game is released but certain core features should be there. That shouldn't be a hostage to DLC.

demi · « **Reply #45 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:50:00 PM »

I like the part where you can have [character] leave your party and take your pre-order armor/weapon and you never get it back

cool breeze · « **Reply #46 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:53:06 PM »

The reason EA has the fucked up DLC situation is to add incentive to buy day one, or it would be more accurate to say they don't want people to buy it used from Gamestop or Ebay without seeing any profit.

The Dragon Age guy in the base camp was just complete garbage. No excuse.

Actually, any content I don't get with my purchase is horseshit, collectors edition and per-order bonuses included. Give away some stupid plastic toy or lanyard to people who care about that shit. Anything that is for the game should be in the base package for no cost.

ManaByte · « **Reply #47 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:00:18 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 01, 2010, 08:36:33 PM

The more I read about this, the more it seems like Bioware is going with absolutely the most despicable usage of DLC for this one.

DLC shouldn't be available on launch day. Anything available on launch day should be packaged with the game itself. DLC should be something that they start on after the main game is finished. Fuck this shit.

As people have said, it's an EA thing. They started it last year with NBA Live 09 with the DNA stuff that was free to first time purchasers, or $15 to anyone else.

The Madden 10 Online Franchise was the same. The game came with a code for it, but if you bought it used the feature cost you $10.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #48 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:10:45 PM »

While DLC might be an EA initiative, BioWare doesn't get a free pass - especially since the company just released a RPG with similar DLC infrastructure but without the same problems. As I said before, in addition to the ridiculous execution of DLC - both in-game and at launch - was that the end game was constructed in a way that pretty much telegraphed that it would be continued in DLC. I mean, Patel really hit the nail on the head a page ago.

"Well, I guess we haven't seen the last of that character."

I mean, did anyone complete the game and didn't feel like there would be Morrigan DLC or DLC to explore Ostagar? Really?

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #49 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:25:56 PM »

Dragon Age Origins Awakening?

Doesn't it sound like the timeline is going in reverse? What's next, Dragon Age Origins Awakening: The Beginning, the Bit Before the Awakening?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2010, 09:33:26 PM »

i am going to refer to the original dragon age origins correctly as "dragon age: enslumbering"

Ichirou · « **Reply #51 on:** February 01, 2010, 11:55:52 PM »

Christ, this thread convinced me to cancel my Dragon Ages order. This shit sounds awful.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #52 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:00:30 AM »

It's actually not a bad game, dude. Although Patel will say differently.

Ichirou · « **Reply #53 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:03:47 AM »

I'm going to wait for some kind of complete edition, just the idea of having to a character come up to you in-game and tell you "Hey dode, pay me some MS points so you can have an adventure" is incredibly annoying.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #54 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:04:10 AM »

He doesn't actually come up to you, but he does hang around the campfire

I think he also honestly asks for your credit card in the PC version

Ichirou · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:06:04 AM »

"I require the numerals upon thy master's card 'fore I may inform you of your adventure, m'lord!"

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #56 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:09:10 AM »

Yeah, it was poorly executed and not repeated with Mass Effect 2. They built something into the Mass Effect 2 called the Cerberus Network, which is a DLC hub that exists in the main menu. Basically, you can download stuff from there and when you load your save file, it appears in the main game. The first DLC is free, which includes a little side mission and a completely new character.

Dragon Age attempted something similar, but also had DLC you had to pay for at launch (in addition to the free party member). It was a disaster. Then a month later they announced a $40 expansion. Totally lame.

demi · « **Reply #57 on:** February 02, 2010, 12:26:31 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 01, 2010, 11:55:52 PM

Christ, this thread convinced me to cancel my Dragon Ages order. This shit sounds awful.

Told ya. Get dat Erect 2

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #58 on:** February 02, 2010, 02:11:31 AM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 02, 2010, 01:59:17 AM

When does the DLC guy show up in camp? I just went to my camp for the first time. Right now it's just my party members and that dwarf and his distinguished mentally-challenged son.

The very first time as far as I remember. Just look around the camp. You have to go up and talk to him.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #59 on:** February 02, 2010, 03:27:45 PM »

DA it's still a longer and more tactical game than Mass Effect, with or without the dlc - especially on the PC.

The story or script isn't much better in ME either. It's just more cinematic.

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