Author Topic: Consensus on Shutter Island: Uneven, but packed with genre thrills (Read 4011 times)

Great Rumbler · « **on:** February 15, 2010, 10:04:56 AM »

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1198124-shutter_island/

Quote from: Hollywood & Fine

Like a lunatic's trip to Wonderland, it builds suspense with only brief respites, reaching a climax that is truly shattering. Hang on tight.

Quote from: Urban Cinefile

Martin Scorsese's sure hand directs this thriller with the precision of a brain surgeon and the grace of an artist

Quote from: CHUD

The work of a master at his height. This is Scorsese flexing his muscles and cracking his knuckles and making a movie that's intense and thrilling and engrossing and beautiful and dense.

Quote from: Hitfix

Scorsese's in Cape Fear mode here, making his own version of the sort of thing that rocked his world when he was younger... [a] horror film, but with a haunted house that travels on two legs.

Quote from: Dread Central

Shutter Island sets a tone straight out of the gate with dark, shadowy imagery, a muted color palette, and a splash of noir-esque style peppered across the top.

Eric P · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2010, 10:07:20 AM »

i managed to forget about this

cool.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2010, 10:27:05 AM »

This isn't the first thriller Scorcese has done, though.

Still, looking forward to it.

Raban · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2010, 10:28:26 AM »

bud · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:19:29 AM »

i'm excited 'cause it's scorese (and dicaprio) but for some reason, the trailer reminded me of gothika.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:30:11 AM »

Quote from: bud on February 15, 2010, 11:19:29 AM

gothika.

Diunx · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2010, 12:29:25 PM »

Fuck yeah!!!!

Mupepe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:04:11 PM »

I've grown to loathe the trailer and at this point the movie in a way. I'm still going to see it. But the wife and I see about two movies a week and we have been since the trailer regularly since... October of last year? STOP PLEASE GOD STOP SHOWING IT :'(

I'll still be there day 1.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:10:51 PM »

Yeah, I feel kind of the same way. It was great the first few times, but it feels like I've seen a hundred times or more now! Just release the movie already!!

EvilBoris · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2010, 04:39:29 PM »

scorcese slumming it.

will wait for invention of hugo cabret and silence

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2010, 01:43:21 PM »

It's settled in around the mid 60's, but I'm still stoked to see it on Saturday.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2010, 02:00:25 PM »

Better than Avatar confirmed.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #12 on:** February 18, 2010, 02:46:21 PM »

I might go and catch the matinee on Friday before work.

VERY PUMPED.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:29:49 AM »

saw it

pretty good, would give it a B+ or A-

excellent film, very well structured, several amazing shots

just short of "classic" but still well worth seeing

Robo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:40:19 AM »

I think my wording is vague enough, but just in case.

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I also thought it was pretty good. Well executed, well acted, well shot, yadda yadda yadda, but entirely hinged on the twist. A friend of mine that had read the book came along and was not particularly enthralled sitting through the movie knowing the outcome, which I suppose is acceptable as a valid complaint considering what most of the movie amounts to after the big reveal. Still, entertaining as a bitch the first time through.

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Raban · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2010, 04:18:55 AM »

I hadn't read the book but imo the movie's first half was much better than the latter half. It barely seemed like a Scorsese film in the first act, then it just kind of became predictable past the halfway mark. Still an excellent, excellent movie.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2010, 05:24:07 PM »

very good film, just saw it. I thought the ending actually wasnt ambiguous enough, a lot of things were very clear cut in the resolution, where I thought they should have left things a bit more open so the viewer could determine what they believed the truth was. Thats just my opinion anyway, with a story like that not everyone is going to be happy.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2010, 05:40:25 PM »

Going to go see it tonight.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2010, 06:28:21 PM »

It was pretty good.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2010, 06:43:52 PM »

Just came back from it. Wow, awesome movie but the ending was definitely a little heavy handed (it doesn't feel like there's any room for interpretation). Had other issues with it too (wished it went in another direction in general) but as far as cinematography, stylistically and visually, such an awesome movie in that regard.

I also don't get the complaints on Dicaprio's acting, there was never a moment where I disliked it.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2010, 07:04:10 PM »

It was an enjoyable movie, but pretty predictable. Uh...don't really have much else to add that hasn't already been said, it was nice to see Ben Kingsley in a good movie again.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2010, 11:21:51 PM »

Just got out. Movie was awesome, but I couldn't help but think how much better it would have been if the film was black and white. Especially with that score, camerawork and dialogue.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2010, 11:57:28 PM »

Wow everyone is saying it rocks.

Shakes says it slightly edges out The Departed. What say ye, Willco!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:13:10 AM »

Been reading some theories on the reason for Teddy's wife appearing in his dreams and I agree with some of the assessments

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That it was his sane mind trying to keep him from playing out this scenario the islands staff put out for him. Though I'm not sure if was to keep him from finding out the truth or to keep him from being lobotomized. I'm of the group that believes he was sane at the end and made a conscious choice to live the rest of his life without the weight of seeing his children drowned and killing his wife.

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Ichirou · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:14:39 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 20, 2010, 11:57:28 PM

Wow everyone is saying it rocks.

Shakes says it slightly edges out The Departed. What say ye, Willco!

Shake

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:17:02 AM »

I thought it was a lot better than The Departed, but I always thought that was Marty's most overrated film of all-time. The Aviator was Marty's best flick from the last decade.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2010, 12:22:29 AM »

Also, just for context, I've been watching a lot of 1950s flicks, so part of my enthusiasm for Shutter Island is somewhat related to that. Like I said, make the whole picture monochrome and slap on some artificial print anomalies, and you'd never know it was filmed this decade.

Raban · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:29:17 AM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2010, 12:17:02 AM

I thought it was a lot better than The Departed, but I always thought that was Marty's most overrated film of all-time. The Aviator was Marty's best flick from the last decade.

Finally I hear some respect for this film.

Ichirou · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:30:18 AM »

The Aviator had an absolutely shit screenplay. I mean, I own it on DVD and I enjoyed it and all, but it's one of Scorsese's weakest pictures in recent memory. Even Gangs of New York was better.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:48:16 AM »

I watched The Aviator again recently and it was awesome. I need to see Gangs again to see if it's as bad as I remember.

Ichirou · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:56:51 AM »

Aviator had great direction, great performances, great everything except the script.

Gangs of New York was miscast (Cameron Diaz really doesn't belong in period pictures) and was fucked with by Harvey Weinstein...I would really love to see that early cut that existed before Harvey Scissorhands got his meaty paws on it. I still feel there's a really great picture in there somewhere, just like I felt about Kingdom of Heaven before the director's cut came out.

ManaByte · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:57:43 AM »

Aviator is still great. And the cinematography makes the BluRay a must. I love how the purposely changed the color throughout the movie to match the technicolor of the era which the movie is taking place in at that point.

Ichirou · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:04:54 AM »

I find it funny that The Aviator was obviously Scorsese's attempt at macking a slick Oscar picture so he could finally get an Academy Award, and when that didn't work he decided to make a remake of a fun, cheesy Asian b-movie and that's what finally won him an Oscar.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:33:56 AM »

Gangs is pretty mediocre, The Aviator is a terrific picture all around. Marty should have won his Oscar for that. Going to have to respectfully disagree with the screenplay as well - it's a terrific biopic.

But you know who agrees with you, Ichirou? am nintenho.

Ichirou · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:36:06 AM »

Shake agrees with me, and I'm alright with that.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:38:19 AM »

So you've got the guy that put The Departed and Borat on a Green Shinobi-like pedestal... and am nintenho.

I hope you can sleep well at night!

ManaByte · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:41:24 AM »

The end of The Departed actually made me laugh.

Aviator was so much better. And rewatchable too.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:44:16 AM »

Yeah, the bit in the elevator is so ridiculous that it unravels the entire film. It was nothing more than a decent genre flick at that point, so I never understood the hype - even from Shake (all trolling aside).

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:45:01 AM »

Well, I do love The Departed, too.

Ichirou · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:46:04 AM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2010, 02:38:19 AM

So you've got the guy that put The Departed and Borat on a Green Shinobi-like pedestal... and am nintenho.

I hope you can sleep well at night!

So I can either go with the man responsible for Monsters & Madmen, or the man who gave Transformers a B-...this is the very definition of a no-win situation.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:47:58 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 21, 2010, 02:46:04 AM

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2010, 02:38:19 AM
So you've got the guy that put The Departed and Borat on a Green Shinobi-like pedestal... and am nintenho.

I hope you can sleep well at night!
So I can either go with the man responsible for Monsters & Madmen, or the man who gave Transformers a B-...this is the very definition of a no-win situation.

or me.

To be fair though, the reason I didn't like the aviator was also just because of its script but because it didn't cut the mustard as a biopic because it didn't fully show how fucked up Howard Hughes became. It just showed the most Hollywood-acceptable part of his life, which I understand but it makes the movie mean fuck-all as a biopic.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #41 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:48:35 AM »

Hey, you can discount me altogether and you'd still have CajoleJuice and Raban!

... or Shake and am nintenho!

YOUR CHOICE.

Ichirou · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:49:47 AM »

Cajole loves The Departed too.

All kidding aside, I do stand by my statement that The Aviator has a piss-poor script. It's a very by-the-numbers biopic. The direction and the performances are outstanding (even the Jude Law cameo is perfect), but it can't overcome the fact that the script, the very skeleton of the movie, has osteoporosis.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:50:40 AM »

Not more than The Aviator!

Ichirou · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:52:12 AM »

I wish Cheebs were here, he would tell us all to rank Scorsese's movies from best to worst right about now.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #45 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:52:40 AM »

He is too busy posing for head shots on Facebook

ManaByte · « **Reply #46 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:53:32 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on February 21, 2010, 02:47:58 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on February 21, 2010, 02:46:04 AM
Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2010, 02:38:19 AM
So you've got the guy that put The Departed and Borat on a Green Shinobi-like pedestal... and am nintenho.

I hope you can sleep well at night!
So I can either go with the man responsible for Monsters & Madmen, or the man who gave Transformers a B-...this is the very definition of a no-win situation.
or me. to be fair though, the reason I didn't like the aviator very much was also because of the script but because it wasn't really about showing the person, just about showing him at the best of his life. Not when he was old, disgusting, and even more insane. which would have shown you what the actual Howard Hughes was like.

Aviator showed Hughes how he should be remembered. If you want to see a malnurished heroin addict dying in a Las Vegas hotel room, maybe David Lynch will make a Howard Hughes movie for you someday.

Ichirou · « **Reply #47 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:53:57 AM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 21, 2010, 02:52:40 AM

He is too busy posing for head shots on Facebook

I'm using his pics in my Beautiful People profile.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #48 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:54:01 AM »

Glenn Odekirk: Howard, you really think they're gonna let you put out a whole movie just about tits?
Howard Hughes: Sure. Who doesn't like tits?

Howard Hughes: That's nice. Tell me somethin'. How old are you, Miss Domergue?
Faith Domergue: Fifteen.
Howard Hughes: Holy Mother of God.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #49 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:54:45 AM »

How are ya'll keeping in contact with Shake anyways? Off the boards? (now that mupepe's board is gone?)

Ichirou · « **Reply #50 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:56:54 AM »

He's in my Facebook.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #51 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:00:46 AM »

*I'm* in your Facebook.

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Ichirou · « **Reply #52 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:02:30 AM »

Paul Walker.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #53 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:14:26 AM »

Quote from: ManaByte on February 21, 2010, 02:53:32 AM

Aviator showed Hughes how he should be remembered. If you want to see a malnurished heroin addict dying in a Las Vegas hotel room, maybe David Lynch will make a Howard Hughes movie for you someday.

I really don't see what else was that interesting about Howard Hughes. His mind was so extraordinarily fucked up because of his substance abuse and his germophobia, that any biopic about him should just mainly focus on how he became so fucked up (for the rest of his life...). A movie about that would be very interesting but instead we saw Scorsese focusing on a few physical things that Howard Hughes made, sort of diminishing the importance of how this guy was completely disconnected from reality.

ManaByte · « **Reply #54 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:25:18 AM »

He was an innovater in both film and aviation all while fighting OCD. How is that not interesting?

Ichirou · « **Reply #55 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:28:48 AM »

Quote from: ManaByte on February 21, 2010, 03:25:18 AM

He was an innovater in both film and aviation all while fighting OCD. How is that not interesting?

Yeah, Shake's life was fucking amazing.

...wait.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #56 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:32:29 AM »

Miles Trahan Experiment

brawndolicious · « **Reply #57 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:43:20 AM »

Quote from: ManaByte on February 21, 2010, 03:25:18 AM

He was an innovater in both film and aviation all while fighting OCD. How is that not interesting?

He was actually focusing his OCD on film and aviation. The movie instead tries to say that he succeeded in those fields DESPITE his mental problems. Seriously, this is like saying Hitler was successful in turning around Germany's economy despite being a complete sociopath.

ManaByte · « **Reply #58 on:** February 21, 2010, 03:48:24 AM »

Um... He DID succeed in those fields.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #59 on:** February 21, 2010, 11:15:57 AM »

Going to see it at 12:45.

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Author Topic: Consensus on Shutter Island: Uneven, but packed with genre thrills (Read 4011 times)