New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania

[Beezy]

If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.

So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?

How is this combat any worse than Scott Pilgrim, 2d CV, Final Fight, Dororo, or any beat 'em up in the last 20 years?

This is a 3D action game though and it looks worse than most games in that genre. I'm not gonna compare it to 2D beatemups.

[demi]

And doesn't every 2d CV get a pass for its shitty level design because it's Castlevania?

No

[dicklaurent]

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lololol the horse riding segment, hahah!

horsewipeout on the speaking tribaltat magichorse

I'M DIE  

castlespania featuring horsewipeout 

[iconoclast]

I think people complain about God of War clones for two reasons: Firstly, every single action game made by western developers is a God of War clone. Heavenly sword is the only one that broke the pattern, and look how well that turned out. And secondly, and most importantly, God of War's gameplay is mediocre at best. Bayonetta is a Devil May Cry clone with a bullet time gimmick thrown in and people are declaring it game of the year, game of the generation, game of the forever. Clearly, cloning something is not a big issue when the game you are cloning is actually great.

That being said, I am looking forward to renting this someday. And Dante's Inferno. And Wolverine.



Re: Metroidvania. Most people don't complain about Iga's Metroid clones because they are essentially the only team keeping that subgenre alive. Who else is making Metroid games? There was that one Spider-Man game that was kinda like Metroid, and Shadow Complex. That's about it.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

our guide to the world of Castlevania should be Dante Aligaheri :'(

[T-Short]

come to think of it, this is probably the best game to come out of spain since Smashing Drive

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[Third]

This looks really good. Might be the first decent 3D Castlevania game.
I'd rather have a new Igavania instead of this God of War/DMC clone though.

[cool breeze]

I'm still down on this game.  The trailers are nice and all, but watching the gameplay videos just makes it look ridiculously dull.  I'm hoping it is like Darksiders where it looks like a turdy action game and turns out to be a so-so zelda/soul reaver romp.  As it stands it doesn't look like a game I'd want to play.  And I like the God of War games.

Re: Metroidvania. Most people don't complain about Iga's Metroid clones because they are essentially the only team keeping that subgenre alive. Who else is making Metroid games? There was that one Spider-Man game that was kinda like Metroid, and Shadow Complex. That's about it.

Spider-Man game was Web of Shadows.  Griptonite was responsible for it and they made another 'metroidvania' game for the GBA as Spyro Eternal Night.  And you could also argue that games like Batman AA had that same kind of structure.

[Himu]

THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

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Innovative gameplay
Stylized graphics
Colors

I agree. Let's hijack the thread and talk about Ghost Trick. I didn't even know it was coming out until a few weeks ago.

[Beezy]

Bayonetta is a Devil May Cry clone with a bullet time gimmick thrown in and people are declaring it game of the year, game of the generation, game of the forever. Clearly, cloning something is not a big issue when the game you are cloning is actually great.

The controls in Bayonetta also feel extremely fluid, unlike DMC which is stiff as fuck.

[Bebpo]

THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

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Innovative gameplay
Stylized graphics
Colors

I agree. Let's hijack the thread and talk about Ghost Trick. I didn't even know it was coming out until a few weeks ago.

I already talked about Ghost Trick in the other thread.

If you have the patience for the slowest parts of Pheonix Wright, it's a rad game.  If you think PW can get pretty boring at times, it's going to get boring.

[Bebpo]

yeah, good luck with ghost trick then.

I think PW is boring about half the time in game#1, 90% of the time in game#2, and 25% of the time in game#3. 

The dude needs to make his games with like 80% less dialogue.

[Bebpo]

It sort of does.  But it goes like this:

-watch a scene where someone dies (~5 mins long)
-rewind and rewatch it in real time and manipulate objects to try to figure out how to change the outcome.  It usually checkpoints about 1/2 times during the 5 min scene when you get something major right.
-if you do it wrong and the time runs up it rewinds to the start or the last checkpoint

The problem is that you can't speed up time (or maybe you can later and I didn't get far enough).  Which means when you figure out what to manipulate, you still have to wait for the right timing like a character walking by or phone ringing or something.  This can mean you figure it out in about 10 seconds from watching the scene the first time and then you have to sit and stare at the screen for 2 mins and then you'll have a 5 second window of doing the right thing or it rewinds back and you have to sit through those 2 mins again.  If there was a FF button you could hold down it'd solve everything and make it a neat little puzzle game.  But I got a bunch of chapters in and there wasn't one and it got kind of boring.

[The Sceneman]

Intentional derailment

Lets get back to talking about Castlevania, which looks totally boner I might add

[Trent Dole]

3D CV tends to suck ass. Just make a full on original XBLA/PSN game already, fegs.

[The Sceneman]

games been dated for October

so boner...

[Third]

Oktober already? That's pretty soon. I thought the game had a chance to become a 2011 release.
But this is good news. I have a feeling this 3D Castlevania won't suck.

[cool breeze]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-walkthrough-castlevania-lords/703749

long video of a new area.  I'm warming up to it, but I laughed at the end when he tames the large monster and then controls it.

there is also this boss battle that is regarded as a spoiler:

[Himu]

didn't i fight that boss in devil may cry 4

[iconoclast]

Looks like a deleted boss from Shadow of the Colossus.

Deleted because he was so boring to fight.

[AdmiralViscen]

I really don't think this looks too good.

[SantaC]

lord of turds

[The Sceneman]

I dunno, people were ripping on Bionic Commando and look how that turned out? GOTY 2009

[Third]

This game looks better and better each day

[cool breeze]

apparently this game is supposed to have redone Castlevania tunes EXCEPT for Bloody Tears.  Bloody Tears is the best one!

[Rman]

I was always partial to the Dracula X version of Vampire Killer.  But Bloody Tears is awesome too.

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[maxy]

Demo coming today exclusivly for PSN+ subscribers.

PlayStation Plus subscribers will be able to download the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow demo today - a week before everyone else, the European PlayStation blog announced

 

[etiolate]

Why is castlevania guy riding a fucking magic horse?

I love how it just pops out of nowhere.